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Speaker 1: Will and what he got very special guests in the

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Speaker 1: studio for the first time. Actually we've got both of

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Speaker 1: them in here, which is wonderful. We've got Laura Henshaw

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Speaker 1: and Steph Claire Smith. To keep it clean. A girl's

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Speaker 1: got a brand new book, You Take Care, a whole

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Speaker 1: bunch of lessons in there. We had a little bit

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Speaker 1: about the confidence stuff Laura was talking about before and

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Speaker 1: you got you guys, do is beautiful on your podcast now?

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Speaker 1: To keep it clean the podcast I've been on there?

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Speaker 1: What's you anyway?

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Speaker 2: I haven't anyway.

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Speaker 1: I want to focus on one part because you've got

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Speaker 1: your You've got the mind, you've got the body, and

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Speaker 1: you've got the connection to three parts of this book.

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Speaker 1: And Steph, I always find your journey really fascinating, and

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Speaker 1: I want to tie it in with something that I

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Speaker 1: saw you post this week, which I just think is

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Speaker 1: really it's a brilliant thing. So it's a brilliant example

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Speaker 1: of I feel like a huge transition you would have

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Speaker 1: had to have made personally, but for somebody who used

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Speaker 1: to get, you know, beautiful photos taken of them for

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Speaker 1: a living. That was your job, right you During the

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Speaker 1: week posted this photo of yourself and I'll call it

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Speaker 1: what you called it, ugly crying, and you're like, I've just,

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Speaker 1: you know, just left a meeting and you know, this

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Speaker 1: is not a great photo of myself, but I think

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Speaker 1: it's important that I share this. I know that that's

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Speaker 1: something that you now wear with a lot of pride

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Speaker 1: in terms of the fact that you are willing to

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Speaker 1: share photos of yourself. I know there's a big chapter

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Speaker 1: in the book about not having before and after photos,

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Speaker 1: for example, and how you and how you portray yourself online.

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Speaker 1: Can you talk to me about a little bit. I'm

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Speaker 1: sure there's lots of this in the book as well,

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Speaker 1: that the transition where you've had to sort of like

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Speaker 1: rework your position on posting photos of yourself and how

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Speaker 1: you look on socials.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure.

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Speaker 3: I mean I think a lot of it comes down

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Speaker 3: to vulnerability and being okay with that side of yourself,

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Speaker 3: and we touch on that a lot in the book.

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Speaker 3: There is a lot of I mean, there's literally a

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Speaker 3: chapter on vulnerability, but then it also kind of seeps

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Speaker 3: into so many others. And I think for me personally,

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Speaker 3: when it comes to my appearance or the way I

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Speaker 3: appear online to those strangers that might follow. I don't

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Speaker 3: ever want to kind of come across any different to

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Speaker 3: how I would be if you will walk past me

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Speaker 3: on the street or meet me in person, both looks wise,

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Speaker 3: but also how I come across, how I treat people,

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Speaker 3: how I am. So it's always been really important to

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Speaker 3: me to kind of be my authentic self online, and again,

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Speaker 3: I think it's really important that everyone kind of recognizes

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Speaker 3: that in themselves and tries to portray themselves and not

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Speaker 3: just online.

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Speaker 1: But just in your data.

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Speaker 3: To be true to yourself. And I think with that

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Speaker 3: it means being able to be vulnerable and share those

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Speaker 3: raw moments, those moments that you know society might see

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Speaker 3: as weak or negative, and kind of flip them and

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Speaker 3: make them more normal to share and to talk about,

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Speaker 3: which you do so well.

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Speaker 1: I was all right, let's not.

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Speaker 2: Going back and forth like it.

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Speaker 3: I really like it, but it's just those important conversations,

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Speaker 3: and well.

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Speaker 1: I think you do a body good job, mate, because

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Speaker 1: I reckon if you know, if people taking photos of

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Speaker 1: me and posting photos of me in swimsuits all the time,

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Speaker 1: you know, I'd be pretty happy with the image and

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to tear down the castle.

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Speaker 2: So you know, well, are you saying there are photos

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Speaker 2: out there where you look amazing in because I don't

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Speaker 2: think they exist. I'm sorry. It's not like Steph, you

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Speaker 2: had a modeling career. There was no modeling.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying I'm saying that. I'm sure there is.

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Speaker 1: Like Steph has any number of amazing photos of herself

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Speaker 1: that she could post at any time. She has a

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Speaker 1: full spectrum, because I think if I was in her position,

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Speaker 1: you'd just be seeing the mint shots. Yeah sure, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it constant first trap. But she doesn't do that. And

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Speaker 1: I think that's why both of you guys are really

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Speaker 1: such great role models. And I think this is a

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Speaker 1: really important book for not just young women, but for

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Speaker 1: I know there are a couple of chapters in there

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Speaker 1: that I had to hand over to the girls in

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Speaker 1: our team because you know, they weren't for me. But there.

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Speaker 1: I think you're wonderful role models because you asked both

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Speaker 1: so vulnerable. You both speak really well, and it's on

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Speaker 1: a range of things as well. We're talking from everything

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Speaker 1: from social media here to self care all the way

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Speaker 1: through to things like pregnancy, your body, your mind, connection confidence.

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Speaker 1: So if you are looking for a book, and as

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Speaker 1: you said, I know you both said you would have

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Speaker 1: loved to have gifted it to yourselves in your twenties,

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Speaker 1: why not gift it to yourself right now? You take

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Speaker 2: You guys live it out as well. I want to

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Speaker 2: quickly say, I reached out to you step about Mim

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Speaker 2: and going through her post peggy body and dealing with

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Speaker 2: all of that, and you're so busy. You wrote back

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Speaker 2: within five minutes with like a really great answer, and

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Speaker 2: that just meant the world to myself and Mim. And again,

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Speaker 2: it's so good that you both clearly live it. But

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Speaker 2: speaking of living it, we lived your life a little

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Speaker 2: bit actually this morning because you guys over the weekend

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Speaker 2: did a beautiful photo shoot, a beautiful photo shoot for

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Speaker 2: Sunday I believe, Yeah, promoting the new books Sdney Morning

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Speaker 2: Herald and The End of the Age, the Sunday magazine,

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Speaker 2: Sunday Life. It's everywhere beautiful photos. And you actually both

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Speaker 2: noticed when you walked in that Will and I were

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Speaker 2: in matching outfits. Well we're actually wearing the exact same

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Speaker 2: outfits that you guys wore for one of the photos

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Speaker 2: from the photoshop. But we did three of the photos.

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Speaker 2: We have re enacted three of the photos you did

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Speaker 2: so before we reveal them to you guys Australia. The

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Speaker 2: good news is yes, you can see the shots, so

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Speaker 2: go to our instagram Will and Wooding.

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Speaker 1: This was tough. One of the photos was particularly hard.

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Speaker 1: We had to rock off as to yeah, well anyway, yeah,

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Speaker 1: the same person.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and you're about to find out who played who.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, so here can say this is this is

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Speaker 2: a true story that the middle shot there, which is

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Speaker 2: in the bikinis, I actually asked Kate to take a

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Speaker 2: do again because I said my ass didn't look good enough.

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Speaker 3: Ye oh my god.

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Speaker 1: They're powerful appreciate that. Yeah, no, no, can I just

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Speaker 1: double down on this face? The expressions were big, but

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Speaker 1: I want to double down on this the central photo

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Speaker 1: and you can see this on Instagram. What he's ready

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Speaker 1: a bikini. I'm in the one piece. I'm Laura Hayes.

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Speaker 2: Step.

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Speaker 1: He wasn't happy that his ass didn't look as good

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Speaker 1: as steps and I was like, mate, you're comparing your

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Speaker 1: butt door models can we just drop this? And he

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Speaker 1: was like, no, I just haven't popped it enough.

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Speaker 2: I haven't popped it enough.

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Speaker 1: And I think it has been the hairbrush so that

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Speaker 1: his ass is as good as steps, and I think

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Speaker 1: it's like he's got it as well. I think we

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Speaker 1: just leaving our jobs now on you too. Yeah, more

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Speaker 1: than help you out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that would.

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Speaker 1: Be a good Sunday morning. All right, go and get

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Speaker 1: yourselves a copy if you take care, Steph ber Smith,

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Speaker 1: thora Henshaw. It's always good to see you guys. Thank

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Speaker 1: you for coming in. That was so much fun. And

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Speaker 1: if you want to see those photos, yeah, Willamy on

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Speaker 1: Instagram whiz listen a kiss