1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:02,679 Speaker 1: Do you love chocolate? Do you feel like you could 2 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:06,800 Speaker 1: even be addicted to it? Well? On today's midweek motivational 3 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:09,959 Speaker 1: episode of The Nutrition Couch, we chat all things chocolate 4 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: and why it tastes so damn good and how you 5 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 1: may be able to manage your intake in the future. Hi, 6 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:19,239 Speaker 1: I'm Leanne Wort and I'm Czborrow And every week we 7 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 1: bringnew The Nutrition Couch, the bi weekly podcast. It gives 8 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:24,480 Speaker 1: you up to date on everything that you need to 9 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 1: know in the world of nutrition, as well as all 10 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:31,320 Speaker 1: delicious things chocolate. Today we found a great new tasting 11 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 1: dip that we actually love the nutritionals on and I'm 12 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 1: going to share one of my favorite summer salads for 13 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:40,160 Speaker 1: you guys. So to kick us off, Susie, I've found 14 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:43,239 Speaker 1: a really cool study this week all about chocolate. So 15 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 1: it's basically a feel good, fat study on the science 16 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:50,520 Speaker 1: behind chocolate. So what researchers were looking at was essentially 17 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 1: on the science of why chocolate tastes so good. So 18 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 1: basically what they decoded, the scientist de coded was the 19 00:00:57,160 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 1: physical process that takes place when you put chocolate in 20 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 1: your mouth. And what the scientists are suggesting is that 21 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:06,120 Speaker 1: it's about the fat content. So when you're putting the 22 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 1: chocolate in your mouth, that mouth feel and texture which 23 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:12,039 Speaker 1: makes chocolate so appealing and why people say, I'm so 24 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 1: addicted to chocolate, I need to have it all of 25 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:17,039 Speaker 1: the time. It's about the fat content and about the 26 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 1: physical texture of what it does. So when chocolate comes 27 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 1: in contact with your mouth, it releases a fatty film 28 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:26,559 Speaker 1: that coats the tongue and other surfaces in the mouth. 29 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 1: And it's because of this feeling or sensation that comes 30 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 1: from the release of this fat that apparently makes chocolate 31 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 1: taste and feel so good. So basically with the cocoa solids, 32 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 1: once they release, they play an important role in terms 33 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 1: of like the tactile sensations or what people feel within 34 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 1: the mouth. So one of the lead research is in 35 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 1: the study, it was quoted to say that the lubrication 36 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 1: science behind the mechanism is that it basically gives us 37 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 1: some insight into how we could potentially adjust some of 38 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 1: these foods in the future. So we want to keep 39 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 1: obviously the taste and the mouth feel of the chocolate 40 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 1: the same, but how can we play with that from 41 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 1: a recipe development, you know, perspective in the future that 42 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 1: will actually help to reduce some of the calories. So 43 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 1: what she's saying is that we can use that knowledge 44 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 1: that this study is provided to make this food taste 45 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 1: the same, if not better, and improve the texture, but 46 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 1: also improve the health benefits that chocolate may have. So 47 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:27,800 Speaker 1: if chocolate has five percent fat or fifty percent fat, 48 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 1: it will still form those chocolates in the mouth. And 49 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:33,519 Speaker 1: what this really this new study was showing was it's 50 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:37,399 Speaker 1: actually about the first part and how that chocolate breaks down. 51 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 1: It's about the first part of where the fat lies 52 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 1: and the makeup of the chocolate that makes up each 53 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 1: stage of the lubrication. So we want to use a 54 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:47,360 Speaker 1: lot of chocolate in the initial stages around the coating 55 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 1: of the chocolate, but what's inside the middle of the chocolate, 56 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 1: the mouthfeel doesn't register as much as what the outer 57 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 1: coating of the chocolate. So researchers or manufacturers can actually 58 00:02:57,520 --> 00:02:59,799 Speaker 1: reduce the high fat content in the middle of the 59 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 1: chocolate to overall reduce the bulk of the calories without 60 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 1: compromising on the texture and the mouse feeling sensation as 61 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 1: long as the high fat content was still on the 62 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 1: outside of the chocolate. So I just thought, Susie, it 63 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:15,360 Speaker 1: was a really cool little study where potentially food manufacturers 64 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:17,920 Speaker 1: can look at playing with the nutritionals of chocolate in 65 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 1: the future, and potentially because I know a lot of 66 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 1: companies have looked at reducing the sugar content of chocolate. 67 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:26,080 Speaker 1: But if we were to perhaps reduce the actual fat 68 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:29,799 Speaker 1: content of the chocolate but still keep that beautiful mouthfeel 69 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 1: and lubrication, we could actually be onto a winner. I 70 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 1: think long term in the future. 71 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 2: I think there's certainly something around that act of savoring, 72 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 2: which is why when encouraging clients to have a sweet 73 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 2: treat or enjoy chocolate, and I hear what's happening with 74 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 2: the actual food chemistry of chocolate. But I don't think 75 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 2: it's dissimilar to cake, for example, where there's that really 76 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 2: rich or even ice cream that's got that mix of 77 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 2: sweet ice cream and the fat and all, so perhaps 78 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 2: lollies or confectionery in it. There's certainly science to show 79 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 2: that when several different areas of the brain light up 80 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 2: for that texture in terms of ticking the box on 81 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 2: sweet and crunchy and a number of those sort of 82 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 2: appealing taste sensations in the mouth, it's easier to over 83 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 2: sort of consume those rich foods. I think for me, 84 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 2: when it comes to chocolate, it just emphasizes that it's 85 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:28,479 Speaker 2: all about quality. And I think when we've had food 86 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 2: issues for quite some time, or grown up in a 87 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 2: house where kind of treat style food was banned or 88 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 2: heavily restricted, you have a scenario that evolves where people 89 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 2: will just if it's available or they have permission to 90 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 2: eat it, or they might be having a binge because 91 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:50,279 Speaker 2: of stress or emotional eating. They're not even tasting the food, 92 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 2: they're just eating it because they're allowed, it's available, they're stress, 93 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:57,160 Speaker 2: they're having a binge. And the issue with that is 94 00:04:57,160 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 2: that you lose that brain biochemistry and pleasure that comes 95 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 2: from eating slowly and savoring that sensation. And that's one 96 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:07,919 Speaker 2: of the reasons Leam. One of my favorite chocolate products 97 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 2: for my clients who want to enjoy something after dinner 98 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:13,359 Speaker 2: is a limp ball, because if you think about a 99 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:16,280 Speaker 2: limp ball, it actually takes quite a long time. 100 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 1: To eat those layers. 101 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 2: If you sort of don't bite it and chew it quickly, 102 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:26,159 Speaker 2: that sort of process of sucking down the ball takes 103 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 2: quite a lot of time. It really dissolves slowly in 104 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:32,359 Speaker 2: the mouth. You've got a lot of richness that comes 105 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:34,920 Speaker 2: from the flavor. And for sort of I think a 106 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 2: ball's about I want to say it's fifty calories. 107 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:39,279 Speaker 1: Is that right? 108 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 2: Is limpball fifty calories or is. 109 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 1: It a bit more about seventy seventy? 110 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 2: So for less than one hundred calories, I think it's 111 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:48,720 Speaker 2: something you would say for maximal pleasure for the size 112 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:51,480 Speaker 2: versus think back to if you had a Cabri block 113 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 2: and you just down to roll two very quickly, that dissolves, 114 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 2: particularly if it's filled with sort of lollies or confectionery. 115 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 2: So if you're someone who does in joy chocolate or 116 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 2: sweet food, I would really encourage you to spend the 117 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 2: time really considering what you feel like and what you 118 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 2: like the most. One of my favorite things and more teasers, 119 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 2: because I find them they take quite a long time 120 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 2: to eat because you sort of can break down the 121 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:18,840 Speaker 2: soft chocolate and then sort of dissolve the middle. I 122 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 2: find that just a few of those with a jar 123 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 2: of hot chocolate drink is a very enjoyable process versus 124 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 2: just chucking stuff in for the sake of it very 125 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 2: quickly and not savoring it. So yeah, if you're someone 126 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:34,039 Speaker 2: and you know you go sort of for a Homer 127 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 2: style of eating where you just chuck it in so 128 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 2: quick and don't even notice, have a practice with a 129 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 2: limp ball and just see how long and if you 130 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 2: get more enjoyment and pleasure by savoring it. And any 131 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 2: of those kind of rich chocolates that have very strong 132 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 2: flavor and take a bit longer to eat. I think 133 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 2: the other good example we've used before the end of 134 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 2: those little Audi miniblocks. 135 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:55,040 Speaker 1: I love them. 136 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:57,600 Speaker 2: They're over one hundred calories, but they're still pretty good 137 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 2: portion control and they're very tasty mix of chocolate, and 138 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 2: I think that, yeah, we're really encouraging people to really 139 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 2: enjoy what they have. 140 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:06,279 Speaker 1: You know. 141 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 2: I had a few clients over the holiday period and 142 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 2: sort of on their food doors, they were logging things 143 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 2: like milkshakes or you know, baked goods, and I was thinking, 144 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 2: that is a lot of volume in calories in one meal. 145 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 2: I would question how much pleasure was actually achieved from 146 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 2: that versus I reckon sometimes if you have a hot 147 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 2: cup of tea and a small slice and sit down 148 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 2: and enjoy the process rather than I'm allowed to have 149 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 2: it and just chucking it in, and I think you 150 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 2: just notice how little you need to actually feel satisfied 151 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 2: and actually feel in control of your eating rather than 152 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 2: just out of control because it's there and throwing it 153 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 2: all in mindlessly. So yeah, I found it interesting too, 154 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 2: and it doesn't surprise me. And I'd say in general, 155 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 2: better quality chocolate is always preferable than just wasting calories 156 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 2: on sort of cheaper stuff but doesn't taste as good, 157 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 2: and its good quality. Actually, for any parents of kids, 158 00:07:56,920 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 2: you might have noticed the Mister Beasts range has released 159 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 2: a block of chocolate. Now, mister Beees is a YouTube star. 160 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 2: The only reason I know anything about it is that 161 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 2: my little boys are obsessed, and when we were in 162 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 2: America earlier this year, they made me go to Walmart 163 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 2: and find this mister Bee's chocolate. Crazy And then they've 164 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 2: just actually released it in Woolworth and someone had posted it, 165 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 2: i think on the kids spot chat and they profiled 166 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 2: the ingredients comparing it to Cabri chocolate and it's basically 167 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 2: very similar about sort of a higher mix of sugar. 168 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 2: But they've got a dark chocolate one and I had 169 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 2: some in my bag just left over and I had 170 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 2: a bit and it was really rich tasting, and I thought, 171 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 2: that's actually quite good because it slows down consumption, Whereas 172 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 2: I find when you have very sweet milk chocolate, you 173 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:39,559 Speaker 2: eat a lot more of it. So that's another thing 174 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 2: over time, if you know you over eat that food, 175 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 2: going for a darker one that you eat more slowly 176 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 2: is another good way to savor it a bit more 177 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 2: and control your intate rather than filing out of control 178 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 2: with it. 179 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 1: Because typically it's got a higher mass of cocoa butter, 180 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 1: so it's a high fat content, which again for that 181 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:57,719 Speaker 1: mouth feel and that pleasure and that satisfaction, it can 182 00:08:57,760 --> 00:08:59,840 Speaker 1: be a lot better. And also the thing with linballs 183 00:08:59,880 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 1: is I find they're very easy to savor and eat 184 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 1: mindfully because they're so damn expensive that it's very hard 185 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 1: to eat the entire container of limpballs because you feel 186 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 1: so guilty because you're like twenty bucks a pop. So 187 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 1: a very good chocolate to eat very mindfully. Because they're so. 188 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:15,440 Speaker 2: Expensive, you couldn't eat more than what two or three 189 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 2: limb balls without feeling sick. 190 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:20,560 Speaker 1: Surely, like they are rich, they're beautiful to enjoy and 191 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 1: really eat mindfully. 192 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, like one you might have one two, but like three, 193 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 2: I'd be thinking, oh, that's that's a lot. So yeah, 194 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:30,319 Speaker 2: and that's getting onto a meal size. So certainly one 195 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 2: or two is maximum recommended portion al rightly, am, Well, 196 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 2: I'm excited today because if anyone who likes to platter 197 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:40,680 Speaker 2: as I do, you will know that my eternal issue 198 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 2: is trying to find dips that are healthy, because when 199 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 2: you do a platter, colorful dips make or break a platter, 200 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 2: and so many of them are just really high fat, 201 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 2: whether they're based on cream, cheese or just oil, and 202 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 2: it's so sad if you look at the ingredient. Listen, 203 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 2: I've done a review on this for nine honey, if 204 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 2: you want to look it up. There's so few that 205 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 2: are actually what i'd call a healthy dip, and people 206 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 2: always thinking. 207 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 1: Oh, homss is healthy. Well, it's hard. 208 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 2: To find a really healthy homss. A lot of them 209 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 2: are still based on vegetable oil and they're really high 210 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 2: calorie but leanne I found. 211 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 1: A good one. Now. 212 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:14,320 Speaker 2: I don't know if this range is actually reformulated in general, 213 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 2: or it's just an anomaly, or they've purposely gone out 214 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 2: and reformulated to be better quality, but I'm a big fan, 215 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 2: so the one. There's a few of them actually that 216 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 2: are veggie based, but this is my favorite at the moment. 217 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 2: So it's the Yumi's range of dips, which have been 218 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 2: around forever, often on sale for two for seven at 219 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 2: the supermarkets. They'redairy and gluten free, and there's heaps of them. 220 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 2: There's about twenty different varieties, but I've just stumbled across 221 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 2: this one, which is the Mediterranean Vegetable, and it's got 222 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 2: a veggie base, like more than fifty percent. So it's 223 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 2: thirty one percent red caps given twenty two percent eight plant, 224 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 2: followed by canola oil, and then fifteen percent zucchini. So 225 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 2: it's actually, what is that, like sixty five percent vegetable, 226 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 2: which is unheard of, like unheard of. And even better, 227 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 2: it tastes really good, because that's the other thing, isn't it. 228 00:10:57,840 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 2: You know, it's fine if they're healthy, but if they 229 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 2: don't taste amazing, you're sort of not encouraged to buy it. 230 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:05,200 Speaker 2: You know. I was a fan of the Egyptian beettroot 231 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 2: of Chris's dips, but it's not amazing, Like it's pretty 232 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 2: pretty plain. You can see it's not as indulgent as 233 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 2: a regular deep and that's the same for I guess 234 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 2: to zeki and salsa. You know, they're just not the same, 235 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 2: whereas this tastes like a dip and it's delicious, and 236 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 2: it's like sixty percent vegetable, so it's outstanding formulation. So 237 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:25,960 Speaker 2: they're really in my good books. I can't find it 238 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:27,599 Speaker 2: at Willies. I can only find it at Coals, and 239 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 2: I've been using it for all my shoots at the moment, 240 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 2: so I'm very cross that. Just running through the ingredients, 241 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:35,559 Speaker 2: so canola oil is a keni fifteen percent egg, tomato powder, 242 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:38,839 Speaker 2: olive oil, sugar, onion, salt, garlic, carrot food acid, which 243 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:41,439 Speaker 2: is just to keep it from going from those vegetables 244 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 2: turning parsi, oregano, pepper preservative, mustard, vegetable gum. Their list 245 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 2: is pretty clean. You couldn't have vegetable product without a 246 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 2: bit of preservative because they'd basically go off nutritionally. Though 247 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 2: one hundred grams, which is huge, like one hundred grams 248 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 2: half the container. You know, you certainly wouldn't encouraging people 249 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:00,440 Speaker 2: to have more than a couple of tablespoons as one 250 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 2: hundred and sixty nine cow per tablespoon thirty four cow 251 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 2: and little protein fat eleven grams. So regular dips range 252 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:11,320 Speaker 2: between twenty five thirty even up to fifty percent fat, 253 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 2: so this one is really quite low at eleven percent, 254 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 2: and they're saturated, very low, so low saturated fat, bit 255 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 2: of carbs, but nothing to be concerned about, a bit 256 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 2: of sodium, nothing to be concerned about. But yeah, it'll 257 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:24,560 Speaker 2: be the top dip on my platters this season. And 258 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 2: I do also think that eggplant one is not dissimilar, 259 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:30,680 Speaker 2: but eggplant can be a bit polarizingly and not everyone 260 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 2: loves it, but this one I can guarantee taste as 261 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:36,840 Speaker 2: good as a regular dip, and you get a whole 262 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 2: lot of veggies and just five stars from me. I'm 263 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:43,319 Speaker 2: really excited to have found it, because yeah, it's hard 264 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 2: to find a healthy, healthier dip for platters. 265 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:47,439 Speaker 1: I love it. I'm off to cause I'm going to 266 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 1: get some this afternoon. And I also love that it's 267 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:53,440 Speaker 1: really appropriate for our allergy friendly families as well. So 268 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 1: it's dairy free, it's gluten free, and it's perfect from 269 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:58,440 Speaker 1: an allergy perspective. The only one you need to watch 270 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:00,680 Speaker 1: there is egg so Sadly, if you have egg allergy, 271 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 1: it's a no go. But anything else it's pretty good. 272 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:05,560 Speaker 1: It's basically, as she said, Zusi, a couple of herbs, 273 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 1: a little bit of old oil, egg, and some vegetables. 274 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 1: So it gets a big thumbs up from us. It 275 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 1: does all righty well. Moving on to the last segment, 276 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 1: our recipe of the week, it is salad season, so 277 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 1: I'm going to share my favorite Vietnamese rice noodle salad 278 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 1: with a little bit of chicken to boost the protein 279 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 1: and help us metabolically. So, as Zuzzi said, a nice 280 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 1: balance salad has a big carbs, has a bit of fat, 281 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 1: and has some protein as well. So I like to 282 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:34,439 Speaker 1: marinate the chicken because I find that plain chicken in 283 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:36,680 Speaker 1: a salad can be sometimes a little bit boring. So 284 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 1: for the salad, I also like to meal prep things. 285 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:41,079 Speaker 1: So with this salad with a few of the components, 286 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 1: if I'm meal prepping it, I'll keep the components separate. 287 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:46,080 Speaker 1: I'll keep my chicken and my noodles separate. Particularly if 288 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 1: my chicken's marinated, I'll actually put my noodles in a 289 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 1: separate box. If the chicken's plane, I'll put the chicken 290 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:53,080 Speaker 1: in a noodle together. Then I'll put the dressing separately 291 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 1: as well. Then I'll put all the salad separately as well. 292 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:58,320 Speaker 1: So coals have these graye salad containers that have like 293 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 1: separate compartments within them. It's in the one container, but 294 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 1: you can separate out the dressing, the protein, and the 295 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 1: vegetables as well, because if you were just to whack 296 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 1: it all and mix it all together, it'll goes soggy 297 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 1: in an hour or so, and if you're gonna go 298 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 1: eat that two or three days later, it's not very nice. 299 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 1: So definitely when you're making this, if you're making it 300 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:16,320 Speaker 1: for a couple of serfs, freeze sell full lunches, or 301 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 1: for dinners, I would recommend keeping each component separate. So 302 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 1: I like to marinate the chicken. I've got four hundred 303 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 1: grams of chicken breast across the four servings. I've got 304 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 1: a couple of clothes of garlic, a good squeeze of lime, 305 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 1: one or two tablespoons of fish sauce, and about one 306 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 1: tablespoon of soy sauce as well. So you marinate that, 307 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 1: leave it at least half an hour, if not overnight, 308 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 1: and then you'd cook that just in a pan, little 309 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 1: spray of olive oil, and then cook that up till 310 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 1: it's nice and you know, crispy or brown, and cook through. 311 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 1: And then a good Vietnamese salad is all about the sauce. 312 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 1: So this is a you're gonna kill me in pronouncing 313 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 1: the SUSI I think it's non charm sauce. Well, that's 314 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 1: really bad. Anyway, It's a really delicious sauce. It's got 315 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 1: three close of like a squeeze of lime juice, thirty 316 00:14:57,000 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 1: meals of rice vinegar, about two tablespoons of fish sauce, 317 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 1: a small teaspoon or tablespoon of just normal white sugar, 318 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 1: a little bit of chopped red chili, like if you 319 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 1: don't like spice, definitely take the seeds out and use 320 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 1: the bigger chilies versus the very small ones are very spicy. 321 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 1: If you make it for the kids, I would leave 322 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 1: the chili out altogether unless they like spice. And about 323 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty mils of cold water just to 324 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 1: make up the volume in that sauce. And that source 325 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 1: goes across the four servings and then into each bowl. 326 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 1: Of course, we want to start with a great base 327 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 1: of salad. So I would do about eight cups of 328 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 1: lettuce or any sort of salad base, you know, mixed leaves, 329 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 1: baby spinach, k or whatever you like. They're large continental 330 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 1: cucumb but four carrots, and you're gonna slice really really 331 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 1: thinly the carrot and the cucumber, and then a big 332 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 1: handful on top of each bowl of fresh bean scratch, 333 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 1: which adds a beautiful crunch to the salad. And then 334 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 1: you're gonna use some rice vermicalae noodles. So, depending on 335 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 1: what your requirements are in terms of a car perspective, 336 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 1: anywhere between kind of I'd say probably one hundred and 337 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 1: fifty grams of noodles up to about two hundred and 338 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 1: fifty grams of noodles, depending on what your requirements are 339 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 1: and how much car you'd like in that meat. So 340 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 1: essentially you've got the noodles as the carb you've put. 341 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 1: The chicken is the protein. There's not a whole lot 342 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 1: of healthy fat that goes into a Vietnamese salad, but 343 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 1: a lot of people will use a bit of oil 344 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 1: in the cooking of the chicken. I like to put 345 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 1: a little bit of a sprinkle of peanuts on top, 346 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 1: so that's kind of again adds to the crunch factor 347 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 1: and adds a little bit of beautiful and healthy fats 348 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 1: to it as well. You could also use those deep 349 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 1: fried shalots. That's another option that goes really well with 350 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 1: some of these more Asian type quissines as well. So 351 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 1: we will pop that recipe on the Nutrition Couch page. 352 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 1: But it's pretty simple. You marina, you chicken, then you 353 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:32,119 Speaker 1: cook it up, You pour your boiling water over your ricenerles, 354 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 1: divide it into your bowls, and then you just chop 355 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 1: all of your salad ingredients, pop it into your bowls, 356 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 1: mix together the sauce, and pour it over only when 357 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 1: you're ready to eat it. You don't pour it over 358 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 1: early or as I said, it'll go a bit soggy. 359 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 1: So that is my favorite summer Vietnamese salad, susy. 360 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 2: And I think it just ticks the box with salads. 361 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 2: I'm always trying to put one little tasty ingredient in 362 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 2: there because I think that transforms the salad from being 363 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 2: perceived as a boring healthy addition. You know, some of 364 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 2: my ghostoos, as I've said, for whether it's the goats cheese, 365 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:06,200 Speaker 2: whether it's the roasted broad beans, whether it's some different seeds. 366 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 2: You know, I just did a salad the other day 367 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 2: and all they did was get some pecan nuts and 368 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 2: I got a bit of honey and drizzled it over 369 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 2: and baked them, and I kept them in the fridge 370 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 2: so they were crunchy, and then I added them to 371 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 2: a salad and it transformed a rocket paar and parmesan 372 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 2: from just being pretty dull to like delicious. So I think, 373 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 2: always think of what's that little thing I can add, 374 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:28,200 Speaker 2: even if it is a bit of fat to make 375 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:30,439 Speaker 2: a salad delicious. The other thing I sometimes do is 376 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:31,120 Speaker 2: a bit gross. 377 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 1: But you know those baked chips, like veggie chips. No, 378 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:38,680 Speaker 1: they're like chips, but they the baked things. Yeah, yeah, they're. 379 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:40,359 Speaker 2: Quite expensive now, but in that day they used to 380 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 2: be cheap. And I like salt and vinegar. So sometimes 381 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:43,920 Speaker 2: I just get a handful of those and crunch them 382 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:47,199 Speaker 2: into a salad and it's like delicious, Like it transforms 383 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 2: a boring salad into something very tasty. So I think, 384 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:51,640 Speaker 2: don't be scared to see snuppy salads. You'll eat more 385 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 2: of them. And for that little bit of extra fat 386 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 2: and calories, you eat a lot more salad, So yeah, 387 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:57,440 Speaker 2: i'd swil like the Vitnamese one because you can add 388 00:17:57,440 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 2: those crunchy kind of noodle things and they're as I said, 389 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:02,440 Speaker 2: just transform it from being boring to really delicious. And 390 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:05,440 Speaker 2: Americans do that very well. But they also have a 391 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 2: lot of fat, so we've got to find you. 392 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:10,399 Speaker 1: That absolutely all right, all things salad here in the 393 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 1: nutrition catch. So that brings us to the end of 394 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 1: today's potty. We wanted to say you listened to this 395 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 1: potty when we've uploaded it, You've just missed out on 396 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 1: our live webinars, but we would love you to go 397 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 1: and listen to the recording we've got too available. 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