Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the
Speaker 1: hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm
Speaker 1: Amy Torber and coming up on today's show. A micro
Speaker 1: influencer has called out podcasters Lucy Jackson and Nicky Westcott
Speaker 1: over a festival run in a TikTok couple is facing
Speaker 1: backlash for appearing to leave their kids unattended while they
Speaker 1: dined out on a cruise. And our highs and Lows
Speaker 1: of the Week, But first old wounds have been reopened
Speaker 1: as a messy three way feud has broken out between
Speaker 1: the country's most controversial reality stars. Former Math's contestant Cyrel
Speaker 1: Paul is at war with Sky Wheatley and Jessica Power
Speaker 1: after they shared their thoughts on a viral clip of
Speaker 1: Cyrel's recent appearance on The Amazing Race. Now, So, if
Speaker 1: things have kicked off over the last few days, but
Speaker 1: I want you to rewind a bit to Cyrel and
Speaker 1: her partner Eden Dally's appearance on The Amazing Race. Amazing
Speaker 1: Race producers have struck gold with this couple. They clearly
Speaker 1: knew what they were doing by casting Cyrel and Eden
Speaker 1: because both of them have appeared on reality shows before,
Speaker 1: and they have both brought fireworks to those shows, so
Speaker 1: Cyrel is no stranger to controversy. She appeared on Maths
Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen and she quickly earned herself the title
Speaker 1: of cyclone Cyrel. So she made headlines when she threw
Speaker 1: a glass of white wine in fellow Maths contestant Jessica
Speaker 1: Power's face. She also found herself at the receiving end though,
Speaker 1: and I had forgotten this because Martha Calor for Titas
Speaker 1: she was on the same series. This was the most
Speaker 1: iconic series of Maths, and she poured a glass of
Speaker 1: red wine over Cyrel's head at one of the dinner parties.
Speaker 1: How did you forget that? I think that was the
Speaker 1: most iconic scene that has ever been in Maths. I
Speaker 1: just didn't realize that they were all on the same series.
Speaker 1: I mean this was five years ago. Well, her baby
Speaker 1: daddy Eden. He also has a fiery temper because when
Speaker 1: he appeared on Love Island in twenty eighteen, he was
Speaker 1: involved in a scuff with Grant Crap. So Grant Crap
Speaker 1: was couped up with Taylor Demir. I can't even imagine
Speaker 1: the two of them talking now. They won the show
Speaker 1: because he turned out to have a secret girlfriend. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and at the time it was touted as a punch
Speaker 1: up between Eden and Grant, but I went back and
Speaker 1: had a look at the clip and no punches were
Speaker 1: actually thrown, but they both grabbed one another by their
Speaker 1: shirts and there was a lot of swearing and yelling
Speaker 1: and they had to be pulled apart by the other contestants.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I remember that the UK was also screening Love Island
Speaker 1: Australia at the time, and everyone was so excited over
Speaker 1: there because they'd never seen such a big fight in
Speaker 1: the UK version. Yeah. I have never seen the UK
Speaker 1: guys fight with one another. If anything, it's a bit
Speaker 1: of a boy's club and they always back each other. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's like one fight and then they're like sorry mate, Yeah,
Speaker 1: no worries, it's all good.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 1: The Amazing Race kicked off last week on Channel ten
Speaker 1: and it is airing on Sunday and Monday nights. And
Speaker 1: it's safe to say that free to air TV has
Speaker 1: taken a huge battering, and it's clear that the networks
Speaker 1: are trying to draw in younger viewers, particularly by selecting
Speaker 1: contestants that strike a chord with gen Zetters because we've
Speaker 1: seen gold Co's influencer Lily Brown and Jack Kenny on
Speaker 1: the show, which I think is a fantastic move. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I haven't tuned in yet, but seeing Lily Brown and
Speaker 1: there really sparked my interest and I think I may
Speaker 1: actually watch it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: We can see that The Amazing Race is working hard
Speaker 1: to get these younger viewers in because they are sharing
Speaker 1: a lot of snippets from the show in the form
Speaker 1: of reels in order to entice people to come and watch,
Speaker 1: because I mean, I always forget when the free to
Speaker 1: air shows are on. And The Amazing Race Australia's Instagram
Speaker 1: account currently has thirty three thousand followers and they created
Speaker 1: their first viral moment by sharing an altercation between Cyrel
Speaker 1: Eden and Ian Thorpe and his longtime friend Christian Miranda.
Speaker 1: I never thought that I would speak about Ian Thorpe
Speaker 1: in the same topic as Cyrel and Eden, but here
Speaker 1: we are. Let's throw to the clip we.
Speaker 3: Have to dig before Christian about us foulnia, about what
Speaker 3: about us following you to dig?
Speaker 1: You were? What do we say that's something in the car?
Speaker 4: Was we made the wrong term with the men about.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about you being how smart, That's what I'm
Speaker 1: talking about. Yeah, and you ain't that. You ain't swimming
Speaker 1: right now either, to an import friend known as an
Speaker 1: imports friend.
Speaker 4: Just so you know, it's not you, it's all him.
Speaker 3: Thanks Mary.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you're welcome, You're welcome.
Speaker 3: You've got anything else smart to say?
Speaker 1: Christian to keep.
Speaker 5: Maybe when you don't know nothing, you keep your mouth shut.
Speaker 4: That's what you should do. Your side, Kim, we could
Speaker 4: hear them carrying on.
Speaker 6: I'm not even buying into it.
Speaker 4: Like with such a threat.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. They're following up a bit rich of
Speaker 1: Cyral who was on maths what five years ago, to
Speaker 1: be questioning the authenticity of one of the other contestants. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the thing. It's quite an unusual move from a
Speaker 1: reality TV contestant to demean someone else over their celebrity status,
Speaker 1: because generally in TV land, it's reality contestants or influencers
Speaker 1: who are having to prove themselves because generally they're viewed
Speaker 1: as having no talent and that it's an easy ride
Speaker 1: because they've got these followers that have just popped up
Speaker 1: out of nowhere. And in this instance, Christian isn't the
Speaker 1: only amazing race contestant without a profile, because Peter Hellier
Speaker 1: is on there with his wife. There's Billy Brownless who
Speaker 1: was on there competing with his son. So I just
Speaker 1: didn't understand why she was throwing around her weight like
Speaker 1: this and trying to big note herself. I mean, I
Speaker 1: love it. It's completely petty. It's great for reality TV.
Speaker 1: Don't like it though, because I just think it was
Speaker 1: a really disrespectful way to speak to Thorpi and also
Speaker 1: his friend Christian. Did you expect much more from her?
Speaker 1: She didn't, but she's well known for throwing a glass
Speaker 1: of wine in someone's face. I didn't, but I think
Speaker 1: that a lot of listeners like me will have a
Speaker 1: reaction to this because this is a goal medalist, it's
Speaker 1: an Olympian, he has done a lot for our country.
Speaker 1: And this friend though well, but she was also directing
Speaker 1: it at Thorpy as well, saying, oh, you're not swimming.
Speaker 1: I just think it was really disrespectful. It was one
Speaker 1: hundred percent disrespectful. But as I said, I would not
Speaker 1: expect more from these two. They've been brought in to
Speaker 1: cause drama like this, and they're going to continue throughout
Speaker 1: the whole series. Well, it did elicit a strong response
Speaker 1: in the comments section, and a majority of the viewers
Speaker 1: were appalled by their actions. One wrote embarrassing those two
Speaker 1: are back on TV, whilst another said she should take
Speaker 1: her own advice. She is the one who needs to
Speaker 1: keep her mouth shut because her mouth runs more in
Speaker 1: this race than her feet so far, whilst others questioned
Speaker 1: who even is she and why is she taking a
Speaker 1: crack at Ian Thorpe, who is actually a celebrity and
Speaker 1: an Australian legend. Well, I'm getting the vibe that maybe
Speaker 1: Sky Wheatley is a Thorpy fan too, because this is
Speaker 1: where she entered the chat. So she shared the clip
Speaker 1: of Cyrel's argument on the Amazing race on Instagram story
Speaker 1: and wrote, Cyrel is so scary guys, I'm having PTSD
Speaker 1: watching this from our little interaction we had with a
Speaker 1: crying face emoji. She then appeared on her Stories from
Speaker 1: her Turkey hotel room where she was recovering from her
Speaker 1: Fox I lift and said this.
Speaker 3: If you guys don't know what I'm talking about, I'm
Speaker 3: going to put the link to the video from the
Speaker 3: interaction that we had, But I swear it was like
Speaker 3: set up because the girl next to Cyril was already
Speaker 3: filming anyway, I'm like, not problematic at Actually, yeah, you
Speaker 3: could say I'm problematic who has yellow? But I was
Speaker 3: actually just asking her questions and I didn't realize she
Speaker 3: would react like that.
Speaker 6: But then after it.
Speaker 3: Happened, I was like, am I in an episode of
Speaker 3: mass Like? It was crazy? But she ranked great TV.
Speaker 3: I'm actually really excited to watch the amazing race this year.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: This that's the interaction that Sky is referring to, is
Speaker 1: a fight that broke out between the pair at an
Speaker 1: influencer event in twenty twenty two. And this event in
Speaker 1: question was ironically for well known mums to promote baby formulas,
Speaker 1: So it just seemed like a really innocent and wholesome event.
Speaker 1: But that is not how the event went down. So
Speaker 1: to set the scene, Cyrel was sitting in the middle
Speaker 1: of the table and there were three people between her
Speaker 1: and Sky. So Sky was at the head of the
Speaker 1: table and she was chatting to all of the other
Speaker 1: girls and she was somewhat broadcasting the conversation across the table. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and things became heated pretty quickly when Sky asked Cyrel
Speaker 1: if her relationship with Eden was genuine. And this is
Speaker 1: because in twenty nineteen, Eden and Cyrel debuted their relationship
Speaker 1: through pap photos and at the time many people speculated
Speaker 1: that this was set up because it seemed like they
Speaker 1: were trying to extend their fifteen minutes of fame. Well,
Speaker 1: it was a very random pairing because it's not like
Speaker 1: they were both on maths or something, and I think
Speaker 1: everyone was confused about where they met each other. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and what made matters worse is that following these photos
Speaker 1: being published, Jessica Power came out and claimed that Eden
Speaker 1: had asked her to be with him for publicity, and
Speaker 1: she then claimed that Eden had been bagging out Cyrel
Speaker 1: to her and then suddenly, weeks later they were announcing
Speaker 1: that they were in love to the rest of the world. Well,
Speaker 1: even more shockingly, they announced five months into their relationship
Speaker 1: that they were expecting a child together. So it was
Speaker 1: a very hot and cold relationship. They ended up breaking
Speaker 1: up during the pregnancy, and then they got back together
Speaker 1: just before the child was born. Now, getting back to
Speaker 1: this dinner party, there was a guest sitting next to
Speaker 1: Cyrel who began recording the exchange. This made Sky think
Speaker 1: that it was possibly set up. So Sky firstly asked
Speaker 1: Cyrel how she met Eden. She then said, I saw
Speaker 1: an article that said you guys had a fake relationship
Speaker 1: for clout or something. Now Cyrel's response is muffled, but
Speaker 1: it sounds like she told Sky it was inappropriate to
Speaker 1: talk about what was in the newspaper.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, you gotta limits otherwise someone I have
Speaker 3: to teach it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, you.
Speaker 6: Were getting really upset about it.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna.
Speaker 6: Who said that, lid real. No, there's been appropriate questions.
Speaker 6: I don't need to ask that. Maybe it's a dish.
Speaker 4: Just know that it's I will.
Speaker 2: Put you in your plate, and I will put you
Speaker 2: in your place.
Speaker 5: I will put you in your plate, eat your food,
Speaker 5: or hug.
Speaker 6: Your face in it.
Speaker 1: So Sky clearly got an insight into what it's like
Speaker 1: being on maths. Well, luckily no wine was thrown in
Speaker 1: this incident, but this was almost worse. And I think
Speaker 1: it's quite clear from the video that Sky was a
Speaker 1: bit intoxicated, because there were points where she was laughing. However,
Speaker 1: when Cyrel started making threats, Sky looked genuinely scared. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I remember talking about this on the podcast a few
Speaker 1: years ago, and really the consensus from listeners was that
Speaker 1: they felt sorry for Sky because Sky gets herself into trouble.
Speaker 1: But I don't actually think she has a malicious bone
Speaker 1: in her body. Now that we are all up to
Speaker 1: speed on the drama, Cyrel was not happy with Sky's
Speaker 1: comment about the amazing race, and she clapped back on
Speaker 1: her Instagram story, calling Sky a bully and accusing her
Speaker 1: of being racist. She wrote, I'm so scary, guys, this
Speaker 1: is proving exactly what I mean. See, you need to understand.
Speaker 1: When I call myself crazy or someone I love, I
Speaker 1: know it's a joke. But when it's coming from someone
Speaker 1: I know who doesn't like me, I know it's a
Speaker 1: backhanded compliment. That is why, as a woman of color,
Speaker 1: this portrays me as aggressive and violent and it's not okay.
Speaker 1: Of course, a light skinned woman is allowed to call
Speaker 1: another woman of color crazy, but if a dark skinned
Speaker 1: woman like me called you a crazy, shit stirring bitch
Speaker 1: who only commented to express a passive, aggressive comment, I
Speaker 1: would again be considered as the aggressive, crazy black bitch.
Speaker 1: She then shared a promotional graphic that Channel ten had
Speaker 1: sent out when Sky one, I'm a celeb and it
Speaker 1: explained how she was donating her winnings to the charity
Speaker 1: Bully Zero. So Cyrel wrote across this amazing she picked
Speaker 1: Bully zero as her charity? Am I crazy? Or is
Speaker 1: that hypocritical? Well, it seems like old feuds are being ignited, left,
Speaker 1: right and center in this story, because if you'll believe it,
Speaker 1: Jessica Power also entered the chat, and as we mentioned
Speaker 1: at the start of the segment, they're not exactly best friends.
Speaker 1: In an interesting move, jess came in to defend Sky
Speaker 1: and I was quite surprised to see this because Jess
Speaker 1: makes a living of OnlyFans and last year Sky made
Speaker 1: really offensive remarks about OnlyFans creators which seemed to ruffle
Speaker 1: some feathers. I mean, I think the only reason she
Speaker 1: came to her defense is more out of her hatred
Speaker 1: for Cyrel. Yeah, because this all went down on so
Speaker 1: Dramatics Instagram posts, so the publication was reporting on the
Speaker 1: story and on their Instagram account, they included a screenshot
Speaker 1: of Cyrel's comments directed at Sky. Now, Jessica commented underneath
Speaker 1: the post, saying, oh mate, give it a rest already.
Speaker 1: I'm not surprised Sky has PTSD from her, She's as
Speaker 1: reactive as they come. She will find an argument out
Speaker 1: of thin air. That woman, Well, this story feels a
Speaker 1: little dirty and it's very much in the weeds because
Speaker 1: Cyrel then took a screenshot of Jessica's comment and called
Speaker 1: her out on her story, saying, Oh, Jessica, the only
Speaker 1: person who should give it a rest is you and
Speaker 1: your lying ass. Go start another Go funny, Paige, bitch
Speaker 1: for someone who likes to run their mouth when the
Speaker 1: only thing you seem to have run out of is money.
Speaker 1: She continues, saying, couldn't even pay for your dad's funeral.
Speaker 1: Wears your money from OnlyFans. I was going to suggest
Speaker 1: to sell one of your prior bags, but if there
Speaker 1: are anything like that, you're probably rocking a pra dough steal,
Speaker 1: a fake ass, irrelevant bitch trying to comment so you
Speaker 1: can make headlines again. I hope me giving you attention
Speaker 1: can rebuild your career. God knows you need the money. Wow,
Speaker 1: what a low blow mentioning the dad's funeral. Oh, because
Speaker 1: that is in reference to Jessica's brother Reese posting a
Speaker 1: go Fundme page, and that was asking for assistance to
Speaker 1: pay for their dad's funeral fees. I just think Sorell's
Speaker 1: proving Jessica's comment in the first place a bit how
Speaker 1: reactive she is. Oh exactly. I mean going back to
Speaker 1: this funeral, because we didn't actually cover this story at
Speaker 1: the time. It just seemed a bit off to be
Speaker 1: talking about it because a lot of followers came out
Speaker 1: and questioned why jess and her brother, who earned large
Speaker 1: amounts of money off OnlyFans, would have to ask for
Speaker 1: assistance with a funeral built. Because jess reportedly makes one
Speaker 1: hundred and ten thousand dollars per month on the platform,
Speaker 1: so you think that she would be able to cover
Speaker 1: those costs now, Jessica told The Daily Mail that the
Speaker 1: whole family were pitching in along with the fundraising campaign
Speaker 1: and that their dad passed away so suddenly that the
Speaker 1: funeral did come as an unexpected cost, and she went
Speaker 1: on to explain that her sister's fiance created the GoFundMe
Speaker 1: before she even knew about it, so it seems like
Speaker 1: the siblings were trying to raise money for what they
Speaker 1: owed for the funeral. Yeah, it just all got very
Speaker 1: messy now, As expected, Jessica clapped back at Cyrel's stories,
Speaker 1: She wrote, not that it should even be something I
Speaker 1: should need to address, but it was actually a family
Speaker 1: member who started that page, not knowing or asking who
Speaker 1: could contribute or how much a funeral could cost. I
Speaker 1: would honestly sell one of my handbags to get you
Speaker 1: the anger management you need. Who brings up someone's grief
Speaker 1: as a way of retaliation? Still the same bitter, horrible
Speaker 1: girl that we all know. I don't care to stay relevant,
Speaker 1: but you've done one TV show after however many years, mate,
Speaker 1: calm down. Ha. It was getting very tipfer tat at
Speaker 1: this stage, and Cyrel responded saying, lo, your response is
Speaker 1: as stupid as you are. Girl. How can you pay
Speaker 1: for my anger management classes when you can't even pay
Speaker 1: for your dad's funeral? And if you were going to
Speaker 1: sell your bags you would have. Yet you started a
Speaker 1: go fundme, Paige, Damn, I'll start you with GoFundMe now,
Speaker 1: Jessica needs money. How's that sound now? Jessica's response was
Speaker 1: the most classic out of all of them. So she
Speaker 1: responded with a photo of her relaxing with a glass
Speaker 1: of white wine and wrote, see how I drink my wine.
Speaker 1: Very aggressive, but not over anyone's face when I can't
Speaker 1: win an argument with a laughing face, and she continued,
Speaker 1: FYI I don't normally drink my wine like this, but
Speaker 1: apparently I'm broke, so I wanted to savor it. I
Speaker 1: would love to see Cyrel explaining this whole petty back
Speaker 1: and forth with Eden. It kind of reminds you of
Speaker 1: like when we get into an argument and our partners
Speaker 1: get involved, and it just sounds so ridiculous. Judging from
Speaker 1: him on the Amazing Race, I think he'd just be
Speaker 1: backing her. Whilst I do really love the drama, I
Speaker 1: just think that this all feels really gross and almost
Speaker 1: regressive to see these women slinging shit at each other,
Speaker 1: because it's not like there's a healthy debate going on.
Speaker 1: It's literally them thinking what can I say that will
Speaker 1: cause the most upset and be the biggest blow to
Speaker 1: that person and their reputation going forward. We have to
Speaker 1: remember all of these women were on reality TV for
Speaker 1: a reason. I really just think it could be an
Speaker 1: attempt for all of them to stay relevant. I know
Speaker 1: they're all accusing one another of doing that, but they
Speaker 1: know what creates headlines, They know how reality TV works,
Speaker 1: and they know that producers are scouting for drama and
Speaker 1: whilst they all do look bad by association, it could
Speaker 1: help themselves land a role because I mean, we could
Speaker 1: see a Maths reunion where we get Martha, Jessica and
Speaker 1: also Cyrel together to recreate some of this drama. I
Speaker 1: would definitely tune into that. Well, I don't know if
Speaker 1: it would be a Maths reunion, but can you imagine
Speaker 1: sticking them all in the Big Brother House because just
Speaker 1: being the ouse at Channel ten have won back the
Speaker 1: rights to Big Brother and they're hinting that they're going
Speaker 1: to bring it back to its heyday. I would watch
Speaker 1: that so Rabbit, Jess and Sky in a house. But
Speaker 1: if they're bringing it back to its heyday, we're probably
Speaker 1: just going to get every day Australians. No, but it's
Speaker 1: the format they're bringing back. Well, I saw Sky comment
Speaker 1: under it please send me back in the house. One
Speaker 1: thing I do know is that the Amazing Race would
Speaker 1: be loving the attention around this and the extra publicity
Speaker 1: they're getting from the show, because I will be tuning
Speaker 1: in on Sunday night.
Speaker 4: For this.
Speaker 2: Good Petty Big I am put on my story saying
Speaker 2: the brand's name.
Speaker 1: An Australian TikToker has taken aim at two popular influencers,
Speaker 1: labeling them as bullies. During a Storytime Get Ready with
Speaker 1: Me video, Ella Kemp accused the influencers of being rude
Speaker 1: to her at a VIP event and for bitching about
Speaker 1: her on their podcast. No, she hasn't fled out named them,
Speaker 1: but she may as well have because she has dropped
Speaker 1: so many clues that make the women easily identifiable. So
Speaker 1: the influencers at the center of the accusations appear to
Speaker 1: be Lucy Jackson and Nikki Wescott. It's a big week
Speaker 1: for Lucy Jackson, isn't it. Yeah, it really is, because
Speaker 1: we spoke on Tuesday about how she's just gone through
Speaker 1: a terrible breakup. But I want to get into the
Speaker 1: accusations because they're pretty sensational. So on Tuesday, Ella told
Speaker 1: her TikTok followers that she had been invited to a
Speaker 1: festival back in twenty twenty when she was just nineteen.
Speaker 1: Don't even love it how this drama from twenty twenty,
Speaker 1: so almost five years ago, as being brought up now. Yes,
Speaker 1: it just screams TikTok petitess, But I kind of love it,
Speaker 1: so she said she was incredibly new to the social
Speaker 1: media scene being a micro influencer, and was excited to
Speaker 1: attend the VIP event. Now for context, Ella now has
Speaker 1: ninety thousand followers on TikTok and over thirty thousand on Instagram,
Speaker 1: so she's not incredibly well known, but she's definitely an
Speaker 1: up and comer. So she's still a micro influencer so
Speaker 1: pretty much, but her following has grown since twenty twenty.
Speaker 1: Now Ella said she was a huge fan of the
Speaker 1: influencers in question and would regularly buy from their clothing brand.
Speaker 1: She also said she loved listening to their podcast, so
Speaker 1: it was really excited to see that they were at
Speaker 1: this festival. This was really the first big clue that
Speaker 1: she was talking about Lucy and Nikki, because they of
Speaker 1: course have the Happy Hour podcast and they also have
Speaker 1: a very popular clothing brand called Jagger and Stone. Now
Speaker 1: Ella also went on to drop that the event was
Speaker 1: full of Queensland influences and again Lucy and Nikki both
Speaker 1: live on the Gold Coast. Now, as the night progressed,
Speaker 1: Ella said she had one too many drinks and was
Speaker 1: attempting to socialize with the other influencers who were in attendance.
Speaker 1: She said at the end of the night, she was
Speaker 1: excited to see the two influencers in question and approach them.
Speaker 1: Let's have a listen to what Ella said went down.
Speaker 2: Towards the end of the night. These two particular influencers
Speaker 2: were there. I was just super excited to meet them,
Speaker 2: slash like party with them andreschmember. There was this particular
Speaker 2: guy in their group that I thought was really cute.
Speaker 2: So I was kind of just like dancing on my
Speaker 2: own and like just minding my own business. Next thing
Speaker 2: I know, I turn around and I get approached by
Speaker 2: one of these influences, one of the two, and she
Speaker 2: comes up to me and he says, they do you
Speaker 2: even know anyone here? And me, being a nineteen year
Speaker 2: old fresh on the block kind of never really been
Speaker 2: to an event like that in my life before, especially
Speaker 2: being like a fan of their stuff, I was like, like,
Speaker 2: I shit myself. I think from memory. I responded being like, yeah,
Speaker 2: like I'm here with my friends Da da da, and
Speaker 2: she kind of just like scoffed at me and walked away.
Speaker 2: I was literally traumatized from this, Like I I was
Speaker 2: so upset.
Speaker 6: I'll never forget I went over to my friend and I.
Speaker 2: Was like pretty much in tears, Like I was like,
Speaker 2: oh my god, Like this individual just came up to
Speaker 2: me and basically said, like, do I even know anyone here?
Speaker 6: As if, like should I even be I kid you not.
Speaker 2: The rest of the event, this girl sat up on
Speaker 2: the top level of the.
Speaker 6: Like bar slash like.
Speaker 2: Grandstand setup and like looked down on me and literally.
Speaker 6: Dead stand the shit out of me. And I was
Speaker 6: so confused.
Speaker 1: They say you should never meet your idols. I wonder
Speaker 1: if she was hanging around like a bit of a
Speaker 1: bad smell, Like you know when you're super excited to
Speaker 1: meet someone and you don't play it cool. Well, I mean,
Speaker 1: it sounds like quite a mortifying interaction. Like if I
Speaker 1: was a nineteen year old and I met my idols
Speaker 1: and one of them came up and said that to me,
Speaker 1: I'd be pretty crushed.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 1: Following the incident, Ella tried to put it down to
Speaker 1: a drunken miscommunication, but her worst fears were realized when
Speaker 1: a friend messaged her telling her to check out the
Speaker 1: girl's podcast because they did one of those videos where
Speaker 1: they answered assumptions about themselves and someone wrote in with
Speaker 1: the assumption that they were rude to their fans, and
Speaker 1: Ella said she was shocked to discover that the influencers
Speaker 1: had referenced her in the episode. Here's what she said.
Speaker 6: They start talking about.
Speaker 2: Me, and they basically say that the only time that
Speaker 2: they can think about that they might have been rude
Speaker 2: to a fan was on the weekend when one of the.
Speaker 6: Girls came up to me and said that.
Speaker 2: Like, do I even know anyone here? Kind of like
Speaker 2: fuck off, not to mention. They also said that I
Speaker 2: made them uncomfortable and that I made their immediate like
Speaker 2: circle of friends feel uncomfortable and uneasy. Mind you, I
Speaker 2: am nineteen years old. These girls at the time were
Speaker 2: like twenty nine thirty years old, and they were trying
Speaker 2: to make out like I was making them go uncomfortable.
Speaker 6: I was absolutely shattered.
Speaker 1: Isn't that your worst fear? Like, can you imagine meeting
Speaker 1: someone that you really idolize, and then later on you
Speaker 1: hear on a podcast or in some sort of TV
Speaker 1: interview that they had such a mortifying experience with you,
Speaker 1: and you'd like royally humiliated yourself. Yeah, especially because Ella
Speaker 1: said she'd been drinking, so maybe she'd been able to
Speaker 1: convince herself, oh no, it wasn't that awkward, and then
Speaker 1: it's literally just been confirmed. Well, I feel sorry for
Speaker 1: her because it seemed like she was coming from a
Speaker 1: place of just being in awe of the women. It
Speaker 1: didn't seem like she was trying to be overtly negative
Speaker 1: or rude to the morning. She was so upset by
Speaker 1: this podcast recording that she ended up selling all of
Speaker 1: her Jagger and Stone stuff. But she said when she
Speaker 1: moved to Sydney later that year, she discovered that she
Speaker 1: still had one of the brand's bikinis. However, she noticed
Speaker 1: it was broken, so she claims she'd only warn the
Speaker 1: bikinis once and I quote being a petty bitch. She
Speaker 1: shared a photo of the broken bathers on her Instagram
Speaker 1: story and tagged the brand saying they were shit. We
Speaker 1: are in the weeds a lot of this episode. It's
Speaker 1: a lot of petty dramas. So this then prompted the
Speaker 1: same influencer, Lucy Jackson, to write back to her Instagram
Speaker 1: story saying, Babe, that bikini is two years old, to
Speaker 1: which Ella replied, Babe, I've worn it twice again. The
Speaker 1: babes the passive aggressive base now let's have a listen
Speaker 1: to what else Ella said, Like.
Speaker 2: Sorry, I didn't realize that swim where it was meant
Speaker 2: to break after like a few years when you have
Speaker 2: a business and you're selling like apperil swimwear or anything
Speaker 2: like that, Like especially at the price point that they had,
Speaker 2: Like it shouldn't only last a couple of years.
Speaker 6: Like I've had so.
Speaker 2: Many bikinis last meet a decade and they've never once broken.
Speaker 2: So that comment was unnecessary, and I feel like it
Speaker 2: was kind of targeted at this person who's like thirty
Speaker 2: years old, Like get agree to be fair.
Speaker 1: Even if you've worn this bikini twice, if you've had
Speaker 1: a kicking around your house, it's moved places with you,
Speaker 1: I'm sure it can get damaged. Really, I think bathes
Speaker 1: seemed to last for a really long time. I mean,
Speaker 1: maybe I don't treat my stuff very well, just throw
Speaker 1: it around the house. It also depends if you wash
Speaker 1: off all of the chlorine. Anyway, we're getting into the
Speaker 1: weeds here, but since this video has gone viral on
Speaker 1: TikTok so, at the time of recording, it's had two
Speaker 1: hundred thousand views. The comments section has been littered with
Speaker 1: people tagging Lucy and Nicki as well as followers sharing
Speaker 1: information about the Happy Hour podcast in question. So I
Speaker 1: have tracked down the episode from July twenty twenty. So
Speaker 1: let's hear exactly what Lucy and Nicky said about this incident.
Speaker 5: You get annoyed when being approached by punters when you're
Speaker 5: out and about with your friends. Ah, okay this, I
Speaker 5: will say this absolutely not getting approached and say hello,
Speaker 5: I fucking live for it.
Speaker 1: I love it, have a yarn. That's absolutely fine.
Speaker 5: What I do not like is then and this has
Speaker 5: only happened maybe like three times, so this isn't like
Speaker 5: something that happens all the time.
Speaker 1: And I think you know if you're doing it or not.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't like it when people come over and
Speaker 5: then stay and like join us, kind of as if
Speaker 5: then you're welcome, because maybe they do come over initially
Speaker 5: and we are really friendly. Then to then stick around
Speaker 5: while we're there with our own friends, maybe out for
Speaker 5: dinner or at a festival, dancing with our group of
Speaker 5: our friends or whatever, and then to keep hanging around
Speaker 5: and sometimes even filming us or like filming yourself, to
Speaker 5: try and act like you're kind of like hanging out
Speaker 5: with us. I guess it's like come and say hello,
Speaker 5: give me a hug, have a little boogie, get a photo.
Speaker 5: That's sweet as they come interrupt my night, So then
Speaker 5: I can't really be talking and spending time with my friends.
Speaker 5: When I'm like just genuinely on a night out with
Speaker 5: my friends, that's when I get annoyed. And I think,
Speaker 5: you know, if you're doing that, like and if you
Speaker 5: if someone sort of says, oh, yeah, you know, that'll
Speaker 5: do run along, like do you have any other friends here?
Speaker 1: That's not being offensive. That's just us trying to get
Speaker 1: on with that night.
Speaker 5: Well that's what happened that time, and that girl I
Speaker 5: got really a friend ed and was like, you know,
Speaker 5: blah blah blah. And then a girl blew up at
Speaker 5: me and was like you are so nasty blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, I'm not nasty at all.
Speaker 5: But if you come over and proceed to hang out
Speaker 5: with my group of friends for like longer than fifteen
Speaker 5: minutes and just kind of try and blend in and
Speaker 5: no one knows who you are, I don't care if
Speaker 5: I have two followers on Instagram, You're being annoying. Regardless
Speaker 5: of who I am, So piss off pretty much, Stram,
Speaker 5: don't over say you're welcome, that's all.
Speaker 1: I kind of get this because in the influencer world,
Speaker 1: you're always hearing of micro influencers or people who want
Speaker 1: a following trying to leach on to bigger creators. And
Speaker 1: it would piss me off if I was in lucy
Speaker 1: and nicky situation and I'm out with my friends and
Speaker 1: you've given this person the time and then they're trying
Speaker 1: to sneak around and join your friendship group and potentially
Speaker 1: take videos of you in a compromising position when you're drunk.
Speaker 1: Think in this instance, this Ella, maybe she had the
Speaker 1: best intentions and she just read the situation wrong. Because
Speaker 1: can you imagine if you met, you know, some podcasts
Speaker 1: or influences that you really respected and you thought you
Speaker 1: had hit it off, only to be told quite aggressively
Speaker 1: like scram fuck off. Basically, yeah, I can kind of
Speaker 1: see both sides to it, because, especially when alcohol is
Speaker 1: involved and lines are blurred, it seemed to be that
Speaker 1: Ella was picking up the wrong cues and maybe should
Speaker 1: have just realized to leave. Well, I would have been
Speaker 1: offended hearing that if I was Ella though, Oh, I
Speaker 1: would be so intimidated by Lucy and Nikki. I think
Speaker 1: they sound fucking funny, but I feel like I don't
Speaker 1: like that sort of tone directed at me. Well, the
Speaker 1: only thing is I think that someone like Lucy, she
Speaker 1: takes no shit by the sounds of it, and it's oh,
Speaker 1: she sounds classic. Yeah, And it's quite apparent that she
Speaker 1: felt like her personally personal boundaries were being and that's
Speaker 1: why I think she just said, look, babe, do you
Speaker 1: know anyone else here? Can you please leave? One of
Speaker 1: our friends has said that she wishes she would spot
Speaker 1: Lucy and Nikki out somewhere so that she could try
Speaker 1: and party with them, and that seems to be something
Speaker 1: that a lot of their listeners think. So they must
Speaker 1: get her all the time, and it must get really frustrated.
Speaker 1: I think that's why this girl was so disappointed, because
Speaker 1: they do put across this image of hey, come party
Speaker 1: with us or have a boogie, we'll have a drink
Speaker 1: and everything like that. But a breach is probably a
Speaker 1: limit where it's like, hey, this is a socially acceptable
Speaker 1: point to leave. I know Abby Chatfield has spoken about
Speaker 1: this in the past, and she said that She's more
Speaker 1: than happy to pose for photos and have a little chat,
Speaker 1: but you know, when she's out on a night out,
Speaker 1: she actually wants to spend it with her friends and
Speaker 1: not be interrupted the whole. These are good tips. If
Speaker 1: we ever spot Taylor Swift out and we meet her
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes, that's the cat and then I have to
Speaker 1: fuck off. Yeah. I think the timing though of this
Speaker 1: TikTok is really interesting because, as we spoke about earlier
Speaker 1: in the episode, Lucy has recently broken up with her
Speaker 1: boyfriend after she discovered he was cheating on her, and
Speaker 1: she's been very open on TikTok sharing about her experience,
Speaker 1: and this has garnered a lot of public sympathy. So
Speaker 1: it's interesting that this video suddenly pops up just after this.
Speaker 1: Oh Ella is obviously writing on the coattails of this
Speaker 1: drama and thinking, well, everyone's talking about the girls at
Speaker 1: the moment, let's drop this incident. It's going to get
Speaker 1: me a lot of views and engagement.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 1: Interestingly, Ella actually said in this TikTok that she was
Speaker 1: inspired to make the video after randomly seeing another pop
Speaker 1: up where Lucy labeled another podcaster a fucking bully. So
Speaker 1: This was the final clue when I was like, this
Speaker 1: is clearly Lucy because earlier this year, Lucy's sparch controversy
Speaker 1: when she released a video perceivably calling out podcaster Megan
Speaker 1: Pisetto from So Dramatic. So the two podcasters have had
Speaker 1: a lot of beef over the last couple of years.
Speaker 1: Lucy and Nicki accused of making racist remarks towards Megan,
Speaker 1: and interestingly, Megan has a connection to Ella. Side note,
Speaker 1: I really hate when people throw around the to bully
Speaker 1: at everyone to describe a journalist working or investigating stories. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's not good. On the topic of Megan though, So
Speaker 1: Ella actually appeared on one of So Dramatic's podcasts back
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two, and so she spoke about how
Speaker 1: she was in a relationship with former mass contestants Jackson
Speaker 1: Loney and Jack Miller. And this was quite a controversial
Speaker 1: episode because Ella was the first person Jackson was connected
Speaker 1: to after his high profile split from fellow Maths contestant Olivia.
Speaker 1: And in this episode, Megan described Ella as the chaos
Speaker 1: queen and I think that's a good description after seeing
Speaker 1: this TikTok, because she's obviously not afraid just stir the pot,
Speaker 1: which I love. It was a really good episode. Well
Speaker 1: it's an interesting connection, isn't it, Because Meghan is obviously
Speaker 1: not a huge fan of Lucy and Nicky either, And
Speaker 1: I saw a lot of people actually tagging Megan and
Speaker 1: so dramatic in this TikTok as well. And Ella responded, look,
Speaker 1: Megan is well aware of this incident. Is this going
Speaker 1: to be another three way few? There's been so many
Speaker 1: feuds popping up on TikTok at the moment, and I
Speaker 1: am here for the entertainment. Well, I get it as well,
Speaker 1: because let's be real, this is the influencer world, and
Speaker 1: if you create drama, it equals views. The one thing
Speaker 1: I felt really uncomfortable about during Ella's call out, though,
Speaker 1: was the constant age bashing of Lucy and Nicki. And
Speaker 1: maybe this is because I'm in my thirties, but the
Speaker 1: continual reference to their age, I thought it was a
Speaker 1: bit unnecessary and it kind of came across as age shaming.
Speaker 1: So you sent me the clip and I think one
Speaker 1: of the had the text and that said, thirty year
Speaker 1: old podcasters have bullied me, and I thought, holy fuck,
Speaker 1: is this about us? And then I was like, what
Speaker 1: the fuck that I have to mention our age? I mean,
Speaker 1: this is how Lucy and NICKI felt as well, because
Speaker 1: the age is irrelevant. It's kind of like saying, oh, well,
Speaker 1: they should know better because they're in their thirties. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 1: I just can't wait to see if Lucy responds. I
Speaker 1: don't know if she will feel like she's got to
Speaker 1: be a bit more shit going on in her life.
Speaker 1: I think if she's to respond, she'll probably respond on
Speaker 1: her podcast in a similar fashion to the first time
Speaker 1: they spoke about the incident. But again, I don't think
Speaker 1: she wants to give Ella the attention.
Speaker 6: Or clout everybody.
Speaker 4: We usually would not be making a video like this,
Speaker 4: but there is information circuling about us that is completely untrue.
Speaker 1: A us TikTok couple is facing backlash for appearing to
Speaker 1: leave their kids unattended in their cabin whilst they dined
Speaker 1: out at a restaurant during their family cruise. Another couple
Speaker 1: in question, Matt and Abby Howard, have been forced to
Speaker 1: issue a statement refuting the claims. Sophy. Before we get
Speaker 1: into it, can you bring us up to speed on
Speaker 1: who Matt and Abby are? Yeah, well, they're two TikTokers
Speaker 1: who are very much selling the American dream. So they're Christian,
Speaker 1: their high school sweethearts, and they've got two kids called
Speaker 1: Griffin and August. That is so American. They are from
Speaker 1: Phoenix in Arizona, and they share very curated family moments
Speaker 1: as well as insights into their very traditional marriage, and
Speaker 1: they also recreate a lot of viral trends on TikTok.
Speaker 1: Now they have over seven million subscribers on YouTube and
Speaker 1: it's basically a family channel where they blog about their lives.
Speaker 1: They also have five point three million followers on TikTok
Speaker 1: and a podcast called The Unplanned Podcast where they discussed
Speaker 1: their relationship as well as their family dynamic. And they're
Speaker 1: no strangers to controversy, so they have been slammed previously
Speaker 1: for their views on traditional gender roles. In the house,
Speaker 1: so Abby handles most of the cleaning and raising of
Speaker 1: the children, and in a now deleted video from twenty
Speaker 1: twenty two, Matt surprised Abby by taking care of the
Speaker 1: house and their newborn child. So this video copped a
Speaker 1: lot of criticism because people said it was perpetuating the
Speaker 1: trope of the hopeless dad who can't raise his own
Speaker 1: kids or has the capacity to clean. It reminds me
Speaker 1: a little bit of all that controversy with Mattie Jay
Speaker 1: last year. Now, another controversy involved matt making his own
Speaker 1: homemade baby formula, and at the time he added a
Speaker 1: disclaimer saying that you shouldn't actually give it to your baby,
Speaker 1: but critics argued that it was dangerous and could encourage
Speaker 1: people to try it out at home. And this year
Speaker 1: he copped criticism for boycotting Father's Day, so on his
Speaker 1: podcast he spoke about how instead of celebrating on the
Speaker 1: official day in America, he planned to celebrate it on
Speaker 1: a separate weekend because Father's Day fell very close to
Speaker 1: his birthday and the year prior he'd done a joint
Speaker 1: Father's Day and Birthday celebration, but he didn't want to
Speaker 1: do it again this year. I think that controversy is
Speaker 1: a bit weak. Oh yeah, because people were saying, oh,
Speaker 1: he's entitled, and it's a red flag because he's demanding
Speaker 1: two separate days that celebrate him. I think they were
Speaker 1: pretty unfair with that one. Yeah. Now, this is where
Speaker 1: the latest controversy has erupted, because in September, the family
Speaker 1: embarked on a seven night cruise with Abby's extended family,
Speaker 1: and they shed highlights of their holiday on their Instagram accounts. Now.
Speaker 1: Abby revealed at the beginning of the trip that they
Speaker 1: were eating out as a family, but it wasn't really working,
Speaker 1: she wrote on her Instagram story, So we ended up
Speaker 1: taking them for five nights and it became apparent that
Speaker 1: they weren't enjoying it, and therefore we weren't either. This
Speaker 1: is obviously the children. Yeah, so then we switched our
Speaker 1: dinner time to after their bedtime. Now in this Instagram story,
Speaker 1: she shared this caption over the top of a baby
Speaker 1: monitor and continued to write, we facetimed the monitors while
Speaker 1: we ate and that worked out much better for everyone.
Speaker 1: She then added that the baby monitors don't work on
Speaker 1: board unless you're only five feet away, explaining they needed
Speaker 1: to FaceTime the monitors to get it on their screens,
Speaker 1: and this elicited a huge response from their followers. Many
Speaker 1: took to Facebook gossip forums and also read a post
Speaker 1: to share their concerns. One follower said, so clearly they
Speaker 1: have paid no attention to the Madeline McCann case, while
Speaker 1: another said this is incredibly upsetting, especially as they had
Speaker 1: family with them that probably could have watched them while
Speaker 1: they were out and had something to eat together. Facetiming
Speaker 1: the baby monitor while several floors away, when anything can
Speaker 1: go wrong in that time span, is just incredibly distressing
Speaker 1: as a parent. Now, others went as far as calling
Speaker 1: it negligent and raised issues around what if a medical
Speaker 1: emergency happened, or an abduction or a child went wandering
Speaker 1: and fell overboard. Now, following the backlash, Abby swiftly removed
Speaker 1: the story and provided no explanation. But the couple broke
Speaker 1: their silence about this incident on Tuesday by releasing a
Speaker 1: TikTok video, which at the time of recording has had
Speaker 1: nine million views. So Matt started by saying, they wouldn't
Speaker 1: usually create a video like this, but there is information
Speaker 1: circulating about them that isn't true, so they wanted to
Speaker 1: set the record straight. They said they're very protective of
Speaker 1: their kids and love them more than anything in the
Speaker 1: entire world. They also thank their followers for being concerned
Speaker 1: about the safety and wellbeing of their kids. Watching this,
Speaker 1: it's clear that they have a PR team that they're
Speaker 1: working with. Because they were trying to sound very understanding
Speaker 1: to the critics. They also began by explaining that they
Speaker 1: went on the cruise with Abby's extended family and that
Speaker 1: the kids were never left alone at any time during
Speaker 1: the cruise. Here's what said.
Speaker 4: And people started to speculate and believe that we had
Speaker 4: left her children alone in their staterooms, and that is
Speaker 4: completely untrue because we had someone with her children at
Speaker 4: all times on this boat period.
Speaker 3: I do want to clarify that we have not, would not,
Speaker 3: will not ever leave our children unattended.
Speaker 6: We would never ever want to put them in harm's
Speaker 6: way in any way.
Speaker 1: Abby then explained that she could see how her story
Speaker 1: could have been misleading, which is why she deleted it
Speaker 1: straight away. Now, Abby and Matt clearly knew that many
Speaker 1: followers would question, well, if you had people babysitting for you,
Speaker 1: why then did you have to FaceTime the baby monitor,
Speaker 1: which I think is a fair enough question. Now, Abby
Speaker 1: went on to explain that her kids always sleep in
Speaker 1: a sort of blackout tent, and in the middle of
Speaker 1: the tent there's a spot for a sound machine and
Speaker 1: also a spot for a baby monitor. So she said
Speaker 1: that even when they sleep in the same room with
Speaker 1: their kids, at home, they all always have their monitors
Speaker 1: on so that they can watch what's happening in the tent.
Speaker 1: So she said that even though they were tagged teaming
Speaker 1: with a family member at dinner, they wanted to have
Speaker 1: that extra caution of watching them on the baby monitor
Speaker 1: as well. This seems odd to me. Why are you
Speaker 1: having your kid in this blacked out tent that you
Speaker 1: can't see them? Well, the whole thing sounds like a
Speaker 1: bit of bullshit. They probably sat around and were like, fuck,
Speaker 1: we look so irresponsible. I mean, as one of their
Speaker 1: followers pointed out, all I could think of was the
Speaker 1: Madeline mccannon situation. Have we not learned anything from that?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 1: It was quite interesting because their comment section on the
Speaker 1: TikTok video was full of people praising them, so I
Speaker 1: don't know if it's been highly edited. So one follower wrote,
Speaker 1: great explanation. I also think it's lovely that you thank
Speaker 1: people for caring and being concerned rather than getting on
Speaker 1: the defense. Perfectly articulated, and that comment received five thousand likes. Wow.
Speaker 1: But it doesn't make sense why they'd share that Instagram
Speaker 1: story because it's kind of like they were having a
Speaker 1: laugh about it. It really does seem like they're changing
Speaker 1: their story now because they weren't expecting such a big
Speaker 1: reaction from their followers. The bit where they lost me
Speaker 1: is when they didn't name which family member was looking
Speaker 1: after the kids. Because initially in the TikTok Matt said, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: we were with Abby's extended family and we had everyone
Speaker 1: there from the great grandmother to the kids. They didn't
Speaker 1: explain all the other people. And then when they said, oh,
Speaker 1: it was someone looking after a child, they didn't say
Speaker 1: which family member. And I think that's because they were
Speaker 1: probably concerned that during their trip they may have put
Speaker 1: up a photo of a dinner which showed all of
Speaker 1: the family there, or maybe they think that they're so
Speaker 1: famous that someone would have taken a photo of them
Speaker 1: on that night out for dinner and they might get
Speaker 1: caught out in some way. Great pr by their team. Well,
Speaker 1: a lot of people said they also didn't buy the
Speaker 1: body language in the video. Someone said that the eye
Speaker 1: contact screamed guilty. I love how everyone becomes a body
Speaker 1: language expert as soon as he's influencer. Apologies come out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's get into our hires lows of the week, and
Speaker 1: I'm going to kick things off with a very embarrassing
Speaker 1: low that I almost didn't want to bring to the podcast. Now,
Speaker 1: I'm all, is well, you persuaded me to bring this
Speaker 1: one up because we Well, I got my full wedding
Speaker 1: video back and I'd forgotten some of the funny things
Speaker 1: that you mentioned in your speech, and one of those
Speaker 1: things a lot of OG listeners will remember, and that
Speaker 1: is that a couple of Christmas Eves ago, I went
Speaker 1: to AUDI wearing a very thick green fake tan, like
Speaker 1: the tan had gone off. I literally looked like the Grinch. Anyway,
Speaker 1: I quickly put on some shorts and unbeknown to me,
Speaker 1: the shorts were inside out. Well, you thought everyone was
Speaker 1: staring at you at AUDI because of your atrocious fake tan,
Speaker 1: but it was actually because of your shorts, and the
Speaker 1: shorts had inbuilt undies, so you literally looked like some
Speaker 1: kind of strange superhero.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So that was mortifying, and I thought that I'd moved
Speaker 1: past those sort of incidences, but apparently not, because five
Speaker 1: still still doing it. So I went shopping with my husband.
Speaker 1: We went to rush into woolworst pick up a couple
Speaker 1: of things. We got back I was unpacking the groceries,
Speaker 1: and I lifted my arms up in the cupboard and
Speaker 1: my husband said, what is that poking out of your pants?
Speaker 1: And somehow there was a sheet of toilet paper that
Speaker 1: had been hanging out of my pants. I didn't know
Speaker 1: if he'd been to the shops. Yeah, so Brandon said.
Speaker 1: He initially thought that it was like a folded up
Speaker 1: tissue that maybe I'd put there because in caf I
Speaker 1: had a runny nose. But no, it was toilet paper.
Speaker 1: And then I went to bed that night and my
Speaker 1: partner lifted up the covers as he does always to
Speaker 1: check for spiders because we live in the hills, and
Speaker 1: he noticed that there was a piece of toilet paper
Speaker 1: attached to my foot. So I do not know what
Speaker 1: is going on with me at the moment. Anyway, my
Speaker 1: high of the week, it will be a quick one.
Speaker 1: It has been spending time with my nephew Jack. He
Speaker 1: is so cute. He is officially three months old, and
Speaker 1: we went on a very sweet walk together. He's in
Speaker 1: that stage where he's smiling at you and laughing and
Speaker 1: he is just so cute. He's adorable. So my low
Speaker 1: of the week has been I have finished all of
Speaker 1: my favorite Netflix shows. I'm out, I have nothing to watch.
Speaker 1: So I was hoping that some outspoken listeners could slide
Speaker 1: into our dms. Maybe we could start a thread in
Speaker 1: our Facebook community. I want a list of great shows
Speaker 1: that you and your partner will enjoy, because it's really
Speaker 1: a struggle to find shows that I like and that
Speaker 1: Dale likes. And my high of the week is I
Speaker 1: finally got around what is it now, like September nine
Speaker 1: or seven months after my wedding, I've finally gotten around
Speaker 1: two printing my wedding photos, and I've printed two quite
Speaker 1: large pieces. I don't know how the listeners feel about
Speaker 1: having such large wedding photos in your house, but I've
Speaker 1: seen quite a few people do it where they select
Speaker 1: one really cool photo, which is what I've done. Well, well,
Speaker 1: you've selected two two, yeah, but just one of Dale
Speaker 1: and I am oh so yeah. The other one is
Speaker 1: of the bridal party. Look, i'm popular opinion here, and
Speaker 1: I apologize if you have one of these in your house.
Speaker 1: But when I think verges on taki is when people
Speaker 1: get them printed on canvases. I don't know why, I
Speaker 1: think I'm just not a fan of the canvas. I
Speaker 1: think that's very early two thousands. So I've got them
Speaker 1: printed from this local printer in Adelaide. I've had photos
Speaker 1: in my house printed from him before. He's really really good.
Speaker 1: It's on this beautiful paper. But I'm trying to find
Speaker 1: the right frames. I got some from Freedom previously, but
Speaker 1: they don't have the exact ones anymore. Do you know
Speaker 1: when I think it is too far with wedding photos
Speaker 1: is when they're the huge focus of your house and
Speaker 1: your wedding was like twenty years ago. Because you know,
Speaker 1: when you've just been married, it's like, yeah, it's nice
Speaker 1: to put up your photos, but you kind of think, well,
Speaker 1: what's next, Like have you achieved anything else in your life?
Speaker 1: Is there anything else to come? So long I'm saying, like,
Speaker 1: you know, most of the time it's taken up by
Speaker 1: you know, well not that the holidays in achievement, but
Speaker 1: by other things you're doing in life. How do you
Speaker 1: have kids or weather days. I think it's nice. I
Speaker 1: think what happens, though, is when people get older, the
Speaker 1: photos become outdated and yeah, you've got the canvas, that's
Speaker 1: what ima. You can look a bit tacky, But maybe
Speaker 1: I'll have to share a photo on my Instagram story.
Speaker 1: When I get them up, I think they're going to
Speaker 1: look really cool. Sophie's a bit gutted because I have
Speaker 1: this photo of all of the bridal party walking along
Speaker 1: this gravel path, and the only one you chose is
Speaker 1: literally half my face cut out of it. Yeah, it was, unfortunately,
Speaker 1: because Sophie kept pulling all these weird faces when she
Speaker 1: was having this very animated conversation, so the only one
Speaker 1: we could feature was one where she was trying to
Speaker 1: be true. There was one of me normal, yeah, but
Speaker 1: the rest of the four other people were cut out. Well, anyway,
Speaker 1: you're in it, everybody. I don't mind being on it.
Speaker 1: I think it's quite funny. Anyway. I think that it's
Speaker 1: all we have time for today. We hope you enjoyed
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Speaker 1: out somebody left us a review recently saying that they
Speaker 1: were frustrated because the ads were being inserted into the
Speaker 1: wrong story. To be honest, when I listened back, it
Speaker 1: was very annoying, and I fired off a message sheaving like,
Speaker 1: what is going on with it? I just want to
Speaker 1: flag that we're on a program called Omni and they've
Speaker 1: recently done an update, and I pride myself on perfectly
Speaker 1: placing the ads, and I don't know what's happened because
Speaker 1: on my end shows that the ads are placed in
Speaker 1: that spot, it seems to have thrown them out by
Speaker 1: a few seconds. So I do apologize to anyone who
Speaker 1: that has affected and irritated. This episode was recorded on
Speaker 1: the traditional land of the Ghana people of the Adelaide Planes.
Speaker 1: We pay respect to Elder's past and present, and if
Speaker 1: you haven't already, we had a special episode drop on
Speaker 1: Monday where Kate returned to give us an update on
Speaker 1: the fourth trimester, and tomorrow's subscriber episode is one I
Speaker 1: think that a lot of you will want to tune into.
Speaker 1: We answer some questions that we previously haven't been allowed
Speaker 1: to answer before because Kate has directed us not to.
Speaker 1: So we open up about some feuds, some miscommunications in
Speaker 1: the podcast industry, and yes, a lot of juicy stuff,
Speaker 1: So you've got to check that one out.