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Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the

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Speaker 1: hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm

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Speaker 1: Amy Torber and coming up on today's show. A micro

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Speaker 1: influencer has called out podcasters Lucy Jackson and Nicky Westcott

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Speaker 1: over a festival run in a TikTok couple is facing

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Speaker 1: backlash for appearing to leave their kids unattended while they

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Speaker 1: dined out on a cruise. And our highs and Lows

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Speaker 1: of the Week, But first old wounds have been reopened

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Speaker 1: as a messy three way feud has broken out between

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Speaker 1: the country's most controversial reality stars. Former Math's contestant Cyrel

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Speaker 1: Paul is at war with Sky Wheatley and Jessica Power

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Speaker 1: after they shared their thoughts on a viral clip of

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Speaker 1: Cyrel's recent appearance on The Amazing Race. Now, So, if

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Speaker 1: things have kicked off over the last few days, but

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Speaker 1: I want you to rewind a bit to Cyrel and

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Speaker 1: her partner Eden Dally's appearance on The Amazing Race. Amazing

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Speaker 1: Race producers have struck gold with this couple. They clearly

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Speaker 1: knew what they were doing by casting Cyrel and Eden

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Speaker 1: because both of them have appeared on reality shows before,

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Speaker 1: and they have both brought fireworks to those shows, so

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Speaker 1: Cyrel is no stranger to controversy. She appeared on Maths

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Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen and she quickly earned herself the title

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Speaker 1: of cyclone Cyrel. So she made headlines when she threw

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Speaker 1: a glass of white wine in fellow Maths contestant Jessica

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Speaker 1: Power's face. She also found herself at the receiving end though,

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Speaker 1: and I had forgotten this because Martha Calor for Titas

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Speaker 1: she was on the same series. This was the most

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Speaker 1: iconic series of Maths, and she poured a glass of

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Speaker 1: red wine over Cyrel's head at one of the dinner parties.

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Speaker 1: How did you forget that? I think that was the

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Speaker 1: most iconic scene that has ever been in Maths. I

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Speaker 1: just didn't realize that they were all on the same series.

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Speaker 1: I mean this was five years ago. Well, her baby

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Speaker 1: daddy Eden. He also has a fiery temper because when

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Speaker 1: he appeared on Love Island in twenty eighteen, he was

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Speaker 1: involved in a scuff with Grant Crap. So Grant Crap

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Speaker 1: was couped up with Taylor Demir. I can't even imagine

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Speaker 1: the two of them talking now. They won the show

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Speaker 1: because he turned out to have a secret girlfriend. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and at the time it was touted as a punch

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Speaker 1: up between Eden and Grant, but I went back and

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Speaker 1: had a look at the clip and no punches were

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Speaker 1: actually thrown, but they both grabbed one another by their

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Speaker 1: shirts and there was a lot of swearing and yelling

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Speaker 1: and they had to be pulled apart by the other contestants.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I remember that the UK was also screening Love Island

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Speaker 1: Australia at the time, and everyone was so excited over

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Speaker 1: there because they'd never seen such a big fight in

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Speaker 1: the UK version. Yeah. I have never seen the UK

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Speaker 1: guys fight with one another. If anything, it's a bit

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Speaker 1: of a boy's club and they always back each other. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's like one fight and then they're like sorry mate, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: no worries, it's all good.

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 1: The Amazing Race kicked off last week on Channel ten

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Speaker 1: and it is airing on Sunday and Monday nights. And

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Speaker 1: it's safe to say that free to air TV has

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Speaker 1: taken a huge battering, and it's clear that the networks

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Speaker 1: are trying to draw in younger viewers, particularly by selecting

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Speaker 1: contestants that strike a chord with gen Zetters because we've

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Speaker 1: seen gold Co's influencer Lily Brown and Jack Kenny on

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Speaker 1: the show, which I think is a fantastic move. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I haven't tuned in yet, but seeing Lily Brown and

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Speaker 1: there really sparked my interest and I think I may

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Speaker 1: actually watch it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: We can see that The Amazing Race is working hard

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Speaker 1: to get these younger viewers in because they are sharing

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Speaker 1: a lot of snippets from the show in the form

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Speaker 1: of reels in order to entice people to come and watch,

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Speaker 1: because I mean, I always forget when the free to

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Speaker 1: air shows are on. And The Amazing Race Australia's Instagram

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Speaker 1: account currently has thirty three thousand followers and they created

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Speaker 1: their first viral moment by sharing an altercation between Cyrel

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Speaker 1: Eden and Ian Thorpe and his longtime friend Christian Miranda.

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Speaker 1: I never thought that I would speak about Ian Thorpe

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Speaker 1: in the same topic as Cyrel and Eden, but here

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Speaker 1: we are. Let's throw to the clip we.

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Speaker 3: Have to dig before Christian about us foulnia, about what

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Speaker 3: about us following you to dig?

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Speaker 1: You were? What do we say that's something in the car?

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Speaker 4: Was we made the wrong term with the men about.

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about you being how smart, That's what I'm

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Speaker 1: talking about. Yeah, and you ain't that. You ain't swimming

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Speaker 1: right now either, to an import friend known as an

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Speaker 4: Just so you know, it's not you, it's all him.

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Speaker 3: Thanks Mary.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you're welcome, You're welcome.

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Speaker 3: You've got anything else smart to say?

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Speaker 1: Christian to keep.

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Speaker 5: Maybe when you don't know nothing, you keep your mouth shut.

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Speaker 4: That's what you should do. Your side, Kim, we could

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Speaker 4: hear them carrying on.

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Speaker 6: I'm not even buying into it.

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Speaker 4: Like with such a threat.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god. They're following up a bit rich of

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Speaker 1: Cyral who was on maths what five years ago, to

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Speaker 1: be questioning the authenticity of one of the other contestants. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's the thing. It's quite an unusual move from a

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Speaker 1: reality TV contestant to demean someone else over their celebrity status,

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Speaker 1: because generally in TV land, it's reality contestants or influencers

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Speaker 1: who are having to prove themselves because generally they're viewed

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Speaker 1: as having no talent and that it's an easy ride

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Speaker 1: because they've got these followers that have just popped up

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Speaker 1: out of nowhere. And in this instance, Christian isn't the

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Speaker 1: only amazing race contestant without a profile, because Peter Hellier

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Speaker 1: is on there with his wife. There's Billy Brownless who

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Speaker 1: was on there competing with his son. So I just

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Speaker 1: didn't understand why she was throwing around her weight like

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Speaker 1: love it. It's completely petty. It's great for reality TV.

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Speaker 1: Don't like it though, because I just think it was

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Speaker 1: a really disrespectful way to speak to Thorpi and also

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Speaker 1: his friend Christian. Did you expect much more from her?

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Speaker 1: She didn't, but she's well known for throwing a glass

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Speaker 1: reaction to this because this is a goal medalist, it's

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Speaker 1: And this friend though well, but she was also directing

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Speaker 1: I just think it was really disrespectful. It was one

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Speaker 1: the whole series. Well, it did elicit a strong response

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Speaker 1: who even is she and why is she taking a

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Speaker 1: crack at Ian Thorpe, who is actually a celebrity and

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Speaker 1: an Australian legend. Well, I'm getting the vibe that maybe

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Speaker 1: Sky Wheatley is a Thorpy fan too, because this is

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Speaker 1: where she entered the chat. So she shared the clip

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Speaker 1: of Cyrel's argument on the Amazing race on Instagram story

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Speaker 1: and wrote, Cyrel is so scary guys, I'm having PTSD

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Speaker 1: watching this from our little interaction we had with a

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Speaker 1: crying face emoji. She then appeared on her Stories from

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Speaker 3: If you guys don't know what I'm talking about, I'm

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Speaker 3: interaction that we had, But I swear it was like

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Speaker 3: set up because the girl next to Cyril was already

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Speaker 3: filming anyway, I'm like, not problematic at Actually, yeah, you

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Speaker 3: could say I'm problematic who has yellow? But I was

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Speaker 3: actually just asking her questions and I didn't realize she

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Speaker 6: But then after it.

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Speaker 3: Happened, I was like, am I in an episode of

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Speaker 3: mass Like? It was crazy? But she ranked great TV.

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Speaker 3: I'm actually really excited to watch the amazing race this year.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: This that's the interaction that Sky is referring to, is

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Speaker 1: a fight that broke out between the pair at an

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Speaker 1: influencer event in twenty twenty two. And this event in

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Speaker 1: question was ironically for well known mums to promote baby formulas,

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Speaker 1: So it just seemed like a really innocent and wholesome event.

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Speaker 1: But that is not how the event went down. So

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Speaker 1: to set the scene, Cyrel was sitting in the middle

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Speaker 1: and things became heated pretty quickly when Sky asked Cyrel

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Speaker 1: she then claimed that Eden had been bagging out Cyrel

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Speaker 1: even more shockingly, they announced five months into their relationship

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Speaker 1: Cyrel who began recording the exchange. This made Sky think

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Speaker 1: that it was possibly set up. So Sky firstly asked

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Speaker 1: Cyrel how she met Eden. She then said, I saw

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Speaker 1: an article that said you guys had a fake relationship

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Speaker 1: for clout or something. Now Cyrel's response is muffled, but

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, you gotta limits otherwise someone I have

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, you.

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Speaker 6: Were getting really upset about it.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna.

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Speaker 6: Who said that, lid real. No, there's been appropriate questions.

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Speaker 6: I don't need to ask that. Maybe it's a dish.

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Speaker 4: Just know that it's I will.

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Speaker 2: Put you in your plate, and I will put you

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Speaker 2: in your place.

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Speaker 5: I will put you in your plate, eat your food,

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Speaker 5: or hug.

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Speaker 6: Your face in it.

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Speaker 1: So Sky clearly got an insight into what it's like

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Speaker 1: being on maths. Well, luckily no wine was thrown in

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Speaker 1: this incident, but this was almost worse. And I think

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Speaker 1: it's quite clear from the video that Sky was a

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Speaker 1: bit intoxicated, because there were points where she was laughing. However,

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Speaker 1: when Cyrel started making threats, Sky looked genuinely scared. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: I'll never forget I went over to my friend and I.

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Speaker 1: it sounds like quite a mortifying interaction. Like if I

436
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Speaker 1: was a nineteen year old and I met my idols

437
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Speaker 1: and one of them came up and said that to me,

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Speaker 1: I'd be pretty crushed.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 1: Following the incident, Ella tried to put it down to

442
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Speaker 1: a drunken miscommunication, but her worst fears were realized when

443
00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:51,919
Speaker 1: a friend messaged her telling her to check out the

444
00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:54,960
Speaker 1: girl's podcast because they did one of those videos where

445
00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:58,480
Speaker 1: they answered assumptions about themselves and someone wrote in with

446
00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:01,600
Speaker 1: the assumption that they were rude to their fans, and

447
00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:04,600
Speaker 1: Ella said she was shocked to discover that the influencers

448
00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:08,280
Speaker 1: had referenced her in the episode. Here's what she said.

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Speaker 6: They start talking about.

450
00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:18,560
Speaker 2: Me, and they basically say that the only time that

451
00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:21,000
Speaker 2: they can think about that they might have been rude

452
00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:25,600
Speaker 2: to a fan was on the weekend when one of the.

453
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Speaker 6: Girls came up to me and said that.

454
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Speaker 2: Like, do I even know anyone here? Kind of like

455
00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:36,399
Speaker 2: fuck off, not to mention. They also said that I

456
00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:43,399
Speaker 2: made them uncomfortable and that I made their immediate like

457
00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:50,200
Speaker 2: circle of friends feel uncomfortable and uneasy. Mind you, I

458
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Speaker 2: am nineteen years old. These girls at the time were

459
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Speaker 2: like twenty nine thirty years old, and they were trying

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Speaker 2: to make out like I was making them go uncomfortable.

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Speaker 6: I was absolutely shattered.

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Speaker 1: Isn't that your worst fear? Like, can you imagine meeting

463
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:15,280
Speaker 1: someone that you really idolize, and then later on you

464
00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:17,640
Speaker 1: hear on a podcast or in some sort of TV

465
00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,760
Speaker 1: interview that they had such a mortifying experience with you,

466
00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:25,480
Speaker 1: and you'd like royally humiliated yourself. Yeah, especially because Ella

467
00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:28,119
Speaker 1: said she'd been drinking, so maybe she'd been able to

468
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Speaker 1: convince herself, oh no, it wasn't that awkward, and then

469
00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:32,920
Speaker 1: it's literally just been confirmed. Well, I feel sorry for

470
00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:34,760
Speaker 1: her because it seemed like she was coming from a

471
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Speaker 1: place of just being in awe of the women. It

472
00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:39,960
Speaker 1: didn't seem like she was trying to be overtly negative

473
00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:43,120
Speaker 1: or rude to the morning. She was so upset by

474
00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:46,199
Speaker 1: this podcast recording that she ended up selling all of

475
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Speaker 1: her Jagger and Stone stuff. But she said when she

476
00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:52,080
Speaker 1: moved to Sydney later that year, she discovered that she

477
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:55,600
Speaker 1: still had one of the brand's bikinis. However, she noticed

478
00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:58,760
Speaker 1: it was broken, so she claims she'd only warn the

479
00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:02,359
Speaker 1: bikinis once and I quote being a petty bitch. She

480
00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:05,280
Speaker 1: shared a photo of the broken bathers on her Instagram

481
00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:09,159
Speaker 1: story and tagged the brand saying they were shit. We

482
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:12,120
Speaker 1: are in the weeds a lot of this episode. It's

483
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 1: a lot of petty dramas. So this then prompted the

484
00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:19,240
Speaker 1: same influencer, Lucy Jackson, to write back to her Instagram

485
00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:22,639
Speaker 1: story saying, Babe, that bikini is two years old, to

486
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:26,439
Speaker 1: which Ella replied, Babe, I've worn it twice again. The

487
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:29,359
Speaker 1: babes the passive aggressive base now let's have a listen

488
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Speaker 1: to what else Ella said, Like.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, I didn't realize that swim where it was meant

490
00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:37,560
Speaker 2: to break after like a few years when you have

491
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:42,399
Speaker 2: a business and you're selling like apperil swimwear or anything

492
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:46,120
Speaker 2: like that, Like especially at the price point that they had,

493
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 2: Like it shouldn't only last a couple of years.

494
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Speaker 6: Like I've had so.

495
00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:53,679
Speaker 2: Many bikinis last meet a decade and they've never once broken.

496
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:57,720
Speaker 2: So that comment was unnecessary, and I feel like it

497
00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:00,439
Speaker 2: was kind of targeted at this person who's like thirty

498
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:04,720
Speaker 2: years old, Like get agree to be fair.

499
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 1: Even if you've worn this bikini twice, if you've had

500
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:10,679
Speaker 1: a kicking around your house, it's moved places with you,

501
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 1: I'm sure it can get damaged. Really, I think bathes

502
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 1: seemed to last for a really long time. I mean,

503
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:18,360
Speaker 1: maybe I don't treat my stuff very well, just throw

504
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:20,800
Speaker 1: it around the house. It also depends if you wash

505
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:22,639
Speaker 1: off all of the chlorine. Anyway, we're getting into the

506
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:26,000
Speaker 1: weeds here, but since this video has gone viral on

507
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,320
Speaker 1: TikTok so, at the time of recording, it's had two

508
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:32,199
Speaker 1: hundred thousand views. The comments section has been littered with

509
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:36,200
Speaker 1: people tagging Lucy and Nicki as well as followers sharing

510
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:39,720
Speaker 1: information about the Happy Hour podcast in question. So I

511
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 1: have tracked down the episode from July twenty twenty. So

512
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:48,920
Speaker 1: let's hear exactly what Lucy and Nicky said about this incident.

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Speaker 5: You get annoyed when being approached by punters when you're

514
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:57,240
Speaker 5: out and about with your friends. Ah, okay this, I

515
00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:00,640
Speaker 5: will say this absolutely not getting approached and say hello,

516
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:01,880
Speaker 5: I fucking live for it.

517
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:06,440
Speaker 1: I love it, have a yarn. That's absolutely fine.

518
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,359
Speaker 5: What I do not like is then and this has

519
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 5: only happened maybe like three times, so this isn't like

520
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:14,919
Speaker 5: something that happens all the time.

521
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:17,119
Speaker 1: And I think you know if you're doing it or not.

522
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't like it when people come over and

523
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,680
Speaker 5: then stay and like join us, kind of as if

524
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,640
Speaker 5: then you're welcome, because maybe they do come over initially

525
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 5: and we are really friendly. Then to then stick around

526
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:31,159
Speaker 5: while we're there with our own friends, maybe out for

527
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:33,680
Speaker 5: dinner or at a festival, dancing with our group of

528
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,240
Speaker 5: our friends or whatever, and then to keep hanging around

529
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 5: and sometimes even filming us or like filming yourself, to

530
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 5: try and act like you're kind of like hanging out

531
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:44,200
Speaker 5: with us. I guess it's like come and say hello,

532
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:47,359
Speaker 5: give me a hug, have a little boogie, get a photo.

533
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,919
Speaker 5: That's sweet as they come interrupt my night, So then

534
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,480
Speaker 5: I can't really be talking and spending time with my friends.

535
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:55,399
Speaker 5: When I'm like just genuinely on a night out with

536
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 5: my friends, that's when I get annoyed. And I think,

537
00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:00,639
Speaker 5: you know, if you're doing that, like and if you

538
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 5: if someone sort of says, oh, yeah, you know, that'll

539
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:05,920
Speaker 5: do run along, like do you have any other friends here?

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00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 1: That's not being offensive. That's just us trying to get

541
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:08,440
Speaker 1: on with that night.

542
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:10,439
Speaker 5: Well that's what happened that time, and that girl I

543
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 5: got really a friend ed and was like, you know,

544
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 5: blah blah blah. And then a girl blew up at

545
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:17,400
Speaker 5: me and was like you are so nasty blah blah blah.

546
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,160
Speaker 1: And I'm like, I'm not nasty at all.

547
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 5: But if you come over and proceed to hang out

548
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 5: with my group of friends for like longer than fifteen

549
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:26,720
Speaker 5: minutes and just kind of try and blend in and

550
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 5: no one knows who you are, I don't care if

551
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,639
Speaker 5: I have two followers on Instagram, You're being annoying. Regardless

552
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,919
Speaker 5: of who I am, So piss off pretty much, Stram,

553
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 5: don't over say you're welcome, that's all.

554
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:41,480
Speaker 1: I kind of get this because in the influencer world,

555
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 1: you're always hearing of micro influencers or people who want

556
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 1: a following trying to leach on to bigger creators. And

557
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,240
Speaker 1: it would piss me off if I was in lucy

558
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 1: and nicky situation and I'm out with my friends and

559
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 1: you've given this person the time and then they're trying

560
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 1: to sneak around and join your friendship group and potentially

561
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 1: take videos of you in a compromising position when you're drunk.

562
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 1: Think in this instance, this Ella, maybe she had the

563
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 1: best intentions and she just read the situation wrong. Because

564
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 1: can you imagine if you met, you know, some podcasts

565
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 1: or influences that you really respected and you thought you

566
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 1: had hit it off, only to be told quite aggressively

567
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 1: like scram fuck off. Basically, yeah, I can kind of

568
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 1: see both sides to it, because, especially when alcohol is

569
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 1: involved and lines are blurred, it seemed to be that

570
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 1: Ella was picking up the wrong cues and maybe should

571
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 1: have just realized to leave. Well, I would have been

572
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 1: offended hearing that if I was Ella though, Oh, I

573
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,720
Speaker 1: would be so intimidated by Lucy and Nikki. I think

574
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 1: they sound fucking funny, but I feel like I don't

575
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 1: like that sort of tone directed at me. Well, the

576
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 1: only thing is I think that someone like Lucy, she

577
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 1: takes no shit by the sounds of it, and it's oh,

578
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 1: she sounds classic. Yeah, And it's quite apparent that she

579
00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 1: felt like her personally personal boundaries were being and that's

580
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 1: why I think she just said, look, babe, do you

581
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 1: know anyone else here? Can you please leave? One of

582
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 1: our friends has said that she wishes she would spot

583
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,240
Speaker 1: Lucy and Nikki out somewhere so that she could try

584
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 1: and party with them, and that seems to be something

585
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:14,040
Speaker 1: that a lot of their listeners think. So they must

586
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 1: get her all the time, and it must get really frustrated.

587
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 1: I think that's why this girl was so disappointed, because

588
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 1: they do put across this image of hey, come party

589
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 1: with us or have a boogie, we'll have a drink

590
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 1: and everything like that. But a breach is probably a

591
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 1: limit where it's like, hey, this is a socially acceptable

592
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 1: point to leave. I know Abby Chatfield has spoken about

593
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 1: this in the past, and she said that She's more

594
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,480
Speaker 1: than happy to pose for photos and have a little chat,

595
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 1: but you know, when she's out on a night out,

596
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:40,240
Speaker 1: she actually wants to spend it with her friends and

597
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 1: not be interrupted the whole. These are good tips. If

598
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 1: we ever spot Taylor Swift out and we meet her

599
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:46,960
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes, that's the cat and then I have to

600
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 1: fuck off. Yeah. I think the timing though of this

601
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:54,040
Speaker 1: TikTok is really interesting because, as we spoke about earlier

602
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 1: in the episode, Lucy has recently broken up with her

603
00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 1: boyfriend after she discovered he was cheating on her, and

604
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 1: she's been very open on TikTok sharing about her experience,

605
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 1: and this has garnered a lot of public sympathy. So

606
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 1: it's interesting that this video suddenly pops up just after this.

607
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 1: Oh Ella is obviously writing on the coattails of this

608
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 1: drama and thinking, well, everyone's talking about the girls at

609
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 1: the moment, let's drop this incident. It's going to get

610
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 1: me a lot of views and engagement.

611
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 2: Well.

612
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 1: Interestingly, Ella actually said in this TikTok that she was

613
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:29,480
Speaker 1: inspired to make the video after randomly seeing another pop

614
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 1: up where Lucy labeled another podcaster a fucking bully. So

615
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 1: This was the final clue when I was like, this

616
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 1: is clearly Lucy because earlier this year, Lucy's sparch controversy

617
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 1: when she released a video perceivably calling out podcaster Megan

618
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 1: Pisetto from So Dramatic. So the two podcasters have had

619
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 1: a lot of beef over the last couple of years.

620
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 1: Lucy and Nicki accused of making racist remarks towards Megan,

621
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 1: and interestingly, Megan has a connection to Ella. Side note,

622
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 1: I really hate when people throw around the to bully

623
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 1: at everyone to describe a journalist working or investigating stories. Yeah,

624
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 1: it's not good. On the topic of Megan though, So

625
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 1: Ella actually appeared on one of So Dramatic's podcasts back

626
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two, and so she spoke about how

627
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 1: she was in a relationship with former mass contestants Jackson

628
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 1: Loney and Jack Miller. And this was quite a controversial

629
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 1: episode because Ella was the first person Jackson was connected

630
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 1: to after his high profile split from fellow Maths contestant Olivia.

631
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 1: And in this episode, Megan described Ella as the chaos

632
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 1: queen and I think that's a good description after seeing

633
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 1: this TikTok, because she's obviously not afraid just stir the pot,

634
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 1: which I love. It was a really good episode. Well

635
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 1: it's an interesting connection, isn't it, Because Meghan is obviously

636
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 1: not a huge fan of Lucy and Nicky either, And

637
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 1: I saw a lot of people actually tagging Megan and

638
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 1: so dramatic in this TikTok as well. And Ella responded, look,

639
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 1: Megan is well aware of this incident. Is this going

640
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 1: to be another three way few? There's been so many

641
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 1: feuds popping up on TikTok at the moment, and I

642
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 1: am here for the entertainment. Well, I get it as well,

643
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 1: because let's be real, this is the influencer world, and

644
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 1: if you create drama, it equals views. The one thing

645
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 1: I felt really uncomfortable about during Ella's call out, though,

646
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 1: was the constant age bashing of Lucy and Nicki. And

647
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 1: maybe this is because I'm in my thirties, but the

648
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 1: continual reference to their age, I thought it was a

649
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 1: bit unnecessary and it kind of came across as age shaming.

650
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 1: So you sent me the clip and I think one

651
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Speaker 1: of the had the text and that said, thirty year

652
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Speaker 1: old podcasters have bullied me, and I thought, holy fuck,

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Speaker 1: is this about us? And then I was like, what

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Speaker 1: the fuck that I have to mention our age? I mean,

655
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Speaker 1: this is how Lucy and NICKI felt as well, because

656
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Speaker 1: the age is irrelevant. It's kind of like saying, oh, well,

657
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Speaker 1: they should know better because they're in their thirties. Yeah. Well,

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Speaker 1: I just can't wait to see if Lucy responds. I

659
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Speaker 1: don't know if she will feel like she's got to

660
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Speaker 1: be a bit more shit going on in her life.

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Speaker 1: I think if she's to respond, she'll probably respond on

662
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Speaker 1: her podcast in a similar fashion to the first time

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Speaker 1: they spoke about the incident. But again, I don't think

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Speaker 1: she wants to give Ella the attention.

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Speaker 6: Or clout everybody.

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Speaker 4: We usually would not be making a video like this,

667
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Speaker 4: but there is information circuling about us that is completely untrue.

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Speaker 1: A us TikTok couple is facing backlash for appearing to

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Speaker 1: leave their kids unattended in their cabin whilst they dined

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Speaker 1: out at a restaurant during their family cruise. Another couple

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Speaker 1: in question, Matt and Abby Howard, have been forced to

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Speaker 1: issue a statement refuting the claims. Sophy. Before we get

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Speaker 1: into it, can you bring us up to speed on

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Speaker 1: who Matt and Abby are? Yeah, well, they're two TikTokers

675
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Speaker 1: who are very much selling the American dream. So they're Christian,

676
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Speaker 1: their high school sweethearts, and they've got two kids called

677
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Speaker 1: Griffin and August. That is so American. They are from

678
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Speaker 1: Phoenix in Arizona, and they share very curated family moments

679
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 1: as well as insights into their very traditional marriage, and

680
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Speaker 1: they also recreate a lot of viral trends on TikTok.

681
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Speaker 1: Now they have over seven million subscribers on YouTube and

682
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Speaker 1: it's basically a family channel where they blog about their lives.

683
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Speaker 1: They also have five point three million followers on TikTok

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Speaker 1: and a podcast called The Unplanned Podcast where they discussed

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Speaker 1: their relationship as well as their family dynamic. And they're

686
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Speaker 1: no strangers to controversy, so they have been slammed previously

687
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Speaker 1: for their views on traditional gender roles. In the house,

688
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 1: so Abby handles most of the cleaning and raising of

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Speaker 1: the children, and in a now deleted video from twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty two, Matt surprised Abby by taking care of the

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Speaker 1: house and their newborn child. So this video copped a

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Speaker 1: lot of criticism because people said it was perpetuating the

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Speaker 1: trope of the hopeless dad who can't raise his own

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Speaker 1: kids or has the capacity to clean. It reminds me

695
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Speaker 1: a little bit of all that controversy with Mattie Jay

696
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:45,879
Speaker 1: last year. Now, another controversy involved matt making his own

697
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 1: homemade baby formula, and at the time he added a

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00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 1: disclaimer saying that you shouldn't actually give it to your baby,

699
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 1: but critics argued that it was dangerous and could encourage

700
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Speaker 1: people to try it out at home. And this year

701
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Speaker 1: he copped criticism for boycotting Father's Day, so on his

702
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 1: podcast he spoke about how instead of celebrating on the

703
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Speaker 1: official day in America, he planned to celebrate it on

704
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Speaker 1: a separate weekend because Father's Day fell very close to

705
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Speaker 1: his birthday and the year prior he'd done a joint

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Speaker 1: Father's Day and Birthday celebration, but he didn't want to

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Speaker 1: do it again this year. I think that controversy is

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Speaker 1: a bit weak. Oh yeah, because people were saying, oh,

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Speaker 1: he's entitled, and it's a red flag because he's demanding

710
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Speaker 1: two separate days that celebrate him. I think they were

711
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:33,799
Speaker 1: pretty unfair with that one. Yeah. Now, this is where

712
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Speaker 1: the latest controversy has erupted, because in September, the family

713
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Speaker 1: embarked on a seven night cruise with Abby's extended family,

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Speaker 1: and they shed highlights of their holiday on their Instagram accounts. Now.

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Speaker 1: Abby revealed at the beginning of the trip that they

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Speaker 1: were eating out as a family, but it wasn't really working,

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Speaker 1: she wrote on her Instagram story, So we ended up

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Speaker 1: taking them for five nights and it became apparent that

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Speaker 1: they weren't enjoying it, and therefore we weren't either. This

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Speaker 1: is obviously the children. Yeah, so then we switched our

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Speaker 1: dinner time to after their bedtime. Now in this Instagram story,

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Speaker 1: she shared this caption over the top of a baby

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Speaker 1: monitor and continued to write, we facetimed the monitors while

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Speaker 1: we ate and that worked out much better for everyone.

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Speaker 1: She then added that the baby monitors don't work on

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Speaker 1: board unless you're only five feet away, explaining they needed

727
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Speaker 1: to FaceTime the monitors to get it on their screens,

728
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Speaker 1: and this elicited a huge response from their followers. Many

729
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:33,720
Speaker 1: took to Facebook gossip forums and also read a post

730
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 1: to share their concerns. One follower said, so clearly they

731
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Speaker 1: have paid no attention to the Madeline McCann case, while

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Speaker 1: another said this is incredibly upsetting, especially as they had

733
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Speaker 1: family with them that probably could have watched them while

734
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Speaker 1: they were out and had something to eat together. Facetiming

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Speaker 1: the baby monitor while several floors away, when anything can

736
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Speaker 1: go wrong in that time span, is just incredibly distressing

737
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Speaker 1: as a parent. Now, others went as far as calling

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Speaker 1: it negligent and raised issues around what if a medical

739
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:05,719
Speaker 1: emergency happened, or an abduction or a child went wandering

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Speaker 1: and fell overboard. Now, following the backlash, Abby swiftly removed

741
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Speaker 1: the story and provided no explanation. But the couple broke

742
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Speaker 1: their silence about this incident on Tuesday by releasing a

743
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Speaker 1: TikTok video, which at the time of recording has had

744
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Speaker 1: nine million views. So Matt started by saying, they wouldn't

745
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Speaker 1: usually create a video like this, but there is information

746
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Speaker 1: circulating about them that isn't true, so they wanted to

747
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Speaker 1: set the record straight. They said they're very protective of

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Speaker 1: their kids and love them more than anything in the

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Speaker 1: entire world. They also thank their followers for being concerned

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Speaker 1: about the safety and wellbeing of their kids. Watching this,

751
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 1: it's clear that they have a PR team that they're

752
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Speaker 1: working with. Because they were trying to sound very understanding

753
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Speaker 1: to the critics. They also began by explaining that they

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Speaker 1: went on the cruise with Abby's extended family and that

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Speaker 1: the kids were never left alone at any time during

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Speaker 1: the cruise. Here's what said.

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Speaker 4: And people started to speculate and believe that we had

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Speaker 4: left her children alone in their staterooms, and that is

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00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:11,400
Speaker 4: completely untrue because we had someone with her children at

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Speaker 4: all times on this boat period.

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Speaker 3: I do want to clarify that we have not, would not,

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Speaker 3: will not ever leave our children unattended.

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Speaker 6: We would never ever want to put them in harm's

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Speaker 6: way in any way.

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Speaker 1: Abby then explained that she could see how her story

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Speaker 1: could have been misleading, which is why she deleted it

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00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:33,879
Speaker 1: straight away. Now, Abby and Matt clearly knew that many

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Speaker 1: followers would question, well, if you had people babysitting for you,

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Speaker 1: why then did you have to FaceTime the baby monitor,

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Speaker 1: which I think is a fair enough question. Now, Abby

771
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Speaker 1: went on to explain that her kids always sleep in

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Speaker 1: a sort of blackout tent, and in the middle of

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Speaker 1: the tent there's a spot for a sound machine and

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Speaker 1: also a spot for a baby monitor. So she said

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Speaker 1: that even when they sleep in the same room with

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Speaker 1: their kids, at home, they all always have their monitors

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Speaker 1: on so that they can watch what's happening in the tent.

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Speaker 1: So she said that even though they were tagged teaming

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Speaker 1: with a family member at dinner, they wanted to have

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Speaker 1: that extra caution of watching them on the baby monitor

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Speaker 1: as well. This seems odd to me. Why are you

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Speaker 1: having your kid in this blacked out tent that you

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00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:20,279
Speaker 1: can't see them? Well, the whole thing sounds like a

784
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Speaker 1: bit of bullshit. They probably sat around and were like, fuck,

785
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:26,279
Speaker 1: we look so irresponsible. I mean, as one of their

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Speaker 1: followers pointed out, all I could think of was the

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Speaker 1: Madeline mccannon situation. Have we not learned anything from that?

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Speaker 2: Well?

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Speaker 1: It was quite interesting because their comment section on the

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00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 1: TikTok video was full of people praising them, so I

791
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 1: don't know if it's been highly edited. So one follower wrote,

792
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:45,719
Speaker 1: great explanation. I also think it's lovely that you thank

793
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 1: people for caring and being concerned rather than getting on

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00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 1: the defense. Perfectly articulated, and that comment received five thousand likes. Wow.

795
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Speaker 1: But it doesn't make sense why they'd share that Instagram

796
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 1: story because it's kind of like they were having a

797
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 1: laugh about it. It really does seem like they're changing

798
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:04,320
Speaker 1: their story now because they weren't expecting such a big

799
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:07,800
Speaker 1: reaction from their followers. The bit where they lost me

800
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 1: is when they didn't name which family member was looking

801
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:15,439
Speaker 1: after the kids. Because initially in the TikTok Matt said, oh, yeah,

802
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 1: we were with Abby's extended family and we had everyone

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00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:21,919
Speaker 1: there from the great grandmother to the kids. They didn't

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00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 1: explain all the other people. And then when they said, oh,

805
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:26,919
Speaker 1: it was someone looking after a child, they didn't say

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00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 1: which family member. And I think that's because they were

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00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 1: probably concerned that during their trip they may have put

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00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:34,840
Speaker 1: up a photo of a dinner which showed all of

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00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 1: the family there, or maybe they think that they're so

810
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 1: famous that someone would have taken a photo of them

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Speaker 1: on that night out for dinner and they might get

812
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 1: caught out in some way. Great pr by their team. Well,

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00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:47,400
Speaker 1: a lot of people said they also didn't buy the

814
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 1: body language in the video. Someone said that the eye

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00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 1: contact screamed guilty. I love how everyone becomes a body

816
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 1: language expert as soon as he's influencer. Apologies come out. Yeah,

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00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:00,840
Speaker 1: let's get into our hires lows of the week, and

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Speaker 1: I'm going to kick things off with a very embarrassing

819
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:07,439
Speaker 1: low that I almost didn't want to bring to the podcast. Now,

820
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:10,359
Speaker 1: I'm all, is well, you persuaded me to bring this

821
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:13,760
Speaker 1: one up because we Well, I got my full wedding

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00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:17,360
Speaker 1: video back and I'd forgotten some of the funny things

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Speaker 1: that you mentioned in your speech, and one of those

824
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 1: things a lot of OG listeners will remember, and that

825
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:26,399
Speaker 1: is that a couple of Christmas Eves ago, I went

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Speaker 1: to AUDI wearing a very thick green fake tan, like

827
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:33,800
Speaker 1: the tan had gone off. I literally looked like the Grinch. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: I quickly put on some shorts and unbeknown to me,

829
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Speaker 1: the shorts were inside out. Well, you thought everyone was

830
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 1: staring at you at AUDI because of your atrocious fake tan,

831
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Speaker 1: but it was actually because of your shorts, and the

832
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:49,879
Speaker 1: shorts had inbuilt undies, so you literally looked like some

833
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 1: kind of strange superhero.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So that was mortifying, and I thought that I'd moved

836
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Speaker 1: past those sort of incidences, but apparently not, because five

837
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 1: still still doing it. So I went shopping with my husband.

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00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 1: We went to rush into woolworst pick up a couple

839
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Speaker 1: of things. We got back I was unpacking the groceries,

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00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:12,799
Speaker 1: and I lifted my arms up in the cupboard and

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00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 1: my husband said, what is that poking out of your pants?

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00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 1: And somehow there was a sheet of toilet paper that

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00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 1: had been hanging out of my pants. I didn't know

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Speaker 1: if he'd been to the shops. Yeah, so Brandon said.

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Speaker 1: He initially thought that it was like a folded up

846
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 1: tissue that maybe I'd put there because in caf I

847
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:32,760
Speaker 1: had a runny nose. But no, it was toilet paper.

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00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 1: And then I went to bed that night and my

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00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 1: partner lifted up the covers as he does always to

850
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 1: check for spiders because we live in the hills, and

851
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:43,400
Speaker 1: he noticed that there was a piece of toilet paper

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00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 1: attached to my foot. So I do not know what

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00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 1: is going on with me at the moment. Anyway, my

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00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:49,640
Speaker 1: high of the week, it will be a quick one.

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00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 1: It has been spending time with my nephew Jack. He

856
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 1: is so cute. He is officially three months old, and

857
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 1: we went on a very sweet walk together. He's in

858
00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 1: that stage where he's smiling at you and laughing and

859
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 1: he is just so cute. He's adorable. So my low

860
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 1: of the week has been I have finished all of

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00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 1: my favorite Netflix shows. I'm out, I have nothing to watch.

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00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 1: So I was hoping that some outspoken listeners could slide

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00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 1: into our dms. Maybe we could start a thread in

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Speaker 1: our Facebook community. I want a list of great shows

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Speaker 1: that you and your partner will enjoy, because it's really

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Speaker 1: a struggle to find shows that I like and that

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Speaker 1: Dale likes. And my high of the week is I

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Speaker 1: finally got around what is it now, like September nine

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Speaker 1: or seven months after my wedding, I've finally gotten around

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Speaker 1: two printing my wedding photos, and I've printed two quite

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Speaker 1: large pieces. I don't know how the listeners feel about

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Speaker 1: having such large wedding photos in your house, but I've

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Speaker 1: seen quite a few people do it where they select

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Speaker 1: one really cool photo, which is what I've done. Well, well,

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Speaker 1: you've selected two two, yeah, but just one of Dale

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Speaker 1: and I am oh so yeah. The other one is

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Speaker 1: of the bridal party. Look, i'm popular opinion here, and

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Speaker 1: I apologize if you have one of these in your house.

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Speaker 1: But when I think verges on taki is when people

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Speaker 1: get them printed on canvases. I don't know why, I

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Speaker 1: think I'm just not a fan of the canvas. I

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Speaker 1: think that's very early two thousands. So I've got them

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Speaker 1: printed from this local printer in Adelaide. I've had photos

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Speaker 1: in my house printed from him before. He's really really good.

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Speaker 1: It's on this beautiful paper. But I'm trying to find

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Speaker 1: the right frames. I got some from Freedom previously, but

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Speaker 1: they don't have the exact ones anymore. Do you know

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Speaker 1: when I think it is too far with wedding photos

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Speaker 1: is when they're the huge focus of your house and

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Speaker 1: your wedding was like twenty years ago. Because you know,

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Speaker 1: when you've just been married, it's like, yeah, it's nice

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Speaker 1: to put up your photos, but you kind of think, well,

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Speaker 1: what's next, Like have you achieved anything else in your life?

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Speaker 1: Is there anything else to come? So long I'm saying, like,

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Speaker 1: you know, most of the time it's taken up by

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Speaker 1: you know, well not that the holidays in achievement, but

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Speaker 1: by other things you're doing in life. How do you

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Speaker 1: have kids or weather days. I think it's nice. I

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Speaker 1: think what happens, though, is when people get older, the

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Speaker 1: photos become outdated and yeah, you've got the canvas, that's

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Speaker 1: what ima. You can look a bit tacky, But maybe

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Speaker 1: I'll have to share a photo on my Instagram story.

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Speaker 1: When I get them up, I think they're going to

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Speaker 1: look really cool. Sophie's a bit gutted because I have

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Speaker 1: this photo of all of the bridal party walking along

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Speaker 1: this gravel path, and the only one you chose is

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Speaker 1: literally half my face cut out of it. Yeah, it was, unfortunately,

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Speaker 1: because Sophie kept pulling all these weird faces when she

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Speaker 1: was having this very animated conversation, so the only one

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Speaker 1: we could feature was one where she was trying to

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Speaker 1: be true. There was one of me normal, yeah, but

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Speaker 1: the rest of the four other people were cut out. Well, anyway,

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Speaker 1: you're in it, everybody. I don't mind being on it.

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Speaker 1: I think it's quite funny. Anyway. I think that it's

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Speaker 1: all we have time for today. We hope you enjoyed

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Speaker 1: today's episode. If you did, it would really help us

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Speaker 1: out if you could leave us a review, preferably a

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Speaker 1: good one, preferably five stars. And I want to point

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Speaker 1: out somebody left us a review recently saying that they

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Speaker 1: were frustrated because the ads were being inserted into the

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Speaker 1: wrong story. To be honest, when I listened back, it

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Speaker 1: was very annoying, and I fired off a message sheaving like,

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Speaker 1: what is going on with it? I just want to

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Speaker 1: flag that we're on a program called Omni and they've

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Speaker 1: recently done an update, and I pride myself on perfectly

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Speaker 1: placing the ads, and I don't know what's happened because

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Speaker 1: on my end shows that the ads are placed in

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Speaker 1: that spot, it seems to have thrown them out by

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Speaker 1: a few seconds. So I do apologize to anyone who

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Speaker 1: that has affected and irritated. This episode was recorded on

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Speaker 1: the traditional land of the Ghana people of the Adelaide Planes.

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Speaker 1: We pay respect to Elder's past and present, and if

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Speaker 1: you haven't already, we had a special episode drop on

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Speaker 1: Monday where Kate returned to give us an update on

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Speaker 1: the fourth trimester, and tomorrow's subscriber episode is one I

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Speaker 1: think that a lot of you will want to tune into.

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Speaker 1: We answer some questions that we previously haven't been allowed

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Speaker 1: to answer before because Kate has directed us not to.

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Speaker 1: So we open up about some feuds, some miscommunications in

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Speaker 1: the podcast industry, and yes, a lot of juicy stuff,

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Speaker 1: So you've got to check that one out.