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Speaker 1: the Chief Health Officer has declared Greater Metropolitan Sydney and

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Speaker 1: also remain as declared hotspots. Now joining me on the

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Speaker 1: Good morning, Good morning Katie, Good morning listening minister.

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Speaker 2: When did the hot spots come into play?

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Speaker 3: So yesterday octually Health Officer participated in AHPPC and met

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Speaker 3: Greater Metropolitan Sydney, the City of Blue Mountains, the City

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Speaker 3: is really important to your listeners to. There's also some

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Speaker 1: Okay, So Minister, where can people get that information if

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Speaker 1: they are concerned that they've been to any of those

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Speaker 3: So the best advice is to go to Coronavirus dot

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Speaker 1: Now we know that when well the larger areas of

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Speaker 3: So, Katie, that was something that I thought the advice

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 1: Now, the CLP opposition is demanding a full scale parliamentary

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Speaker 1: probe in to the IKAK Act, not a closed store

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Speaker 1: in house audit by the Gunner government. They say they

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Speaker 1: Now do you think that there does need to be

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Speaker 1: a full scale parliamentary probe, Katie.

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Speaker 3: I think it's very important that the Parliament doesn't interfere

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Speaker 3: That would be a dangerous precedent. But what I can

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Speaker 3: say is it's not just a gunner government trobe into

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Speaker 3: the ik It is a full styale review by Greg Shanahan,

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Speaker 3: we believe at this point that that review is adequate.

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Speaker 1: But would it be appropriate, you know, to maybe have

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Speaker 1: and an independent you know, work through with a body

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Speaker 1: it right with the IKAK.

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Speaker 3: I don't think so. This gave Katy. So Greg Shanahan,

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 1: The CORP says the Chief Minister should not be conducting

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Speaker 1: a review in secret and needs to be reminded the

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Speaker 1: Anti Corruption Watchdog is not a government tool.

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Speaker 3: O, Katie. I think that the comments that I've just made,

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Speaker 3: I don't want to sound repetitive I know that that

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Speaker 3: annoys your listeners, but it is not a secret review.

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Speaker 3: It is being conducted by someone who's got a lot

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Speaker 3: and they've been involved in legislation, so they'll be looking

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Speaker 3: And as we sort of we've had this in place

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Speaker 1: I mean, do you reckon though that there needs to

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Speaker 1: be the opportunity for public submissions, you know, and also

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Speaker 1: maybe public hearings.

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Speaker 3: Okay. I believe that the review that is taking place

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Speaker 3: is adequate at this point, and it's certainly been conducted

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Speaker 3: by someone high level. They're looking at a range of

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Speaker 1: All right, Minister for Health and also Minister for Tourism,

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Speaker 1: Natasha Files, it's always good to catch up with you.

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Speaker 2: We appreciate your.

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Speaker 1: Time this morning. Thank you, thank you. You're listening to

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