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Speaker 1: Have you ever thought that maybe the reason you're not

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Speaker 1: maybe because you're actually not eating enough. It may come

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Speaker 1: feedback to our clients that they're not actually eating enough.

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Speaker 1: So on today's episode, we share the signs that may

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Speaker 1: indicate that you two need a little more nutrition to

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Speaker 1: help you reach your overall goals. Hi, I'm Leanne Ward

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Speaker 1: and I'm CV Burrel, and together we bring you the

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Speaker 1: Nutrition Couch, the weekly podcast that keeps you up to

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Speaker 1: date on everything that you need to know in the

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Speaker 1: world of nutrition as well as not eating enough. Today

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Speaker 1: we discuss the viral oats and o's and pick trend

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Speaker 1: And we've also found a new gluten free product we

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Speaker 1: kick us off today, Susie, we're chatting all about the

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Speaker 1: signs that were just not eating enough.

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Speaker 2: And I've had numerous client case.

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Speaker 1: Studies when before they've started working with me, I've asked them,

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Speaker 1: you know, how the feeling has their energy, that sort

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Speaker 1: the common signs or symptoms, if you will, that I

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Speaker 1: home that you might not be eating enough is general fatigue.

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Speaker 1: And again, fatigue can be a number of reasons. That

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Speaker 1: might be because you're just a tight, busy, stressed out parent.

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Speaker 1: It might because you've had a couple of crap night's sleep,

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Speaker 1: it could be because you have low iron. But a

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Speaker 1: Another two big signs if I have clients that are

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Speaker 1: If within that twelve weeks I've had a client that's

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Speaker 1: flag for me. Same deal with injury. Often I hear

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Speaker 1: done another injury again within a twelve week period. If

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Speaker 1: twice within that timeframe, I'm quite concerned that perhaps they're

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Speaker 3: I think there's two scenarios that pop up in different

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Speaker 3: So they're the two common scenarios. I one hundred percent

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Speaker 1: One hundred percent, because less food going through a less bulk,

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Speaker 4: Free from gluten for seeded bagels. Now, Leanne.

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Speaker 3: I love a bagel, particularly when I'm in New York

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Speaker 3: But these bagels, which are a seeded variety, come in

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Speaker 4: Are we too processed?

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Speaker 3: Are we too ultra processed to give it the stamp

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Speaker 1: Look, there's certainly a far better range of gluten free

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Speaker 1: Like I remember when I first graduated as a Dietesians

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Speaker 2: The ingredients are pretty good.

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Speaker 1: Is it a refined product, Absolutely, but like it's a

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Speaker 1: You can't use wheat flower, it's not going to rise

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Speaker 1: six point eight grams is a lot of fiber, but

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Speaker 1: I love that the bulk is coming from the celium

440
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Speaker 1: musk in the seeds, because if they were to add

441
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Speaker 1: something like anuline or chickory root, that would really set off,

442
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Speaker 1: you know, the sensitive ibs. Spoke myself included, so I

443
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Speaker 1: like the addition of fiberuscilium. It's very gentle and bulking

444
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Speaker 1: in that sobal type of fiber, also a prebotic, but

445
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Speaker 1: a lot more gentle on those sensitive tummies. I would

446
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Speaker 1: like to see a higher percentagive seeds, Like three point

447
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Speaker 1: five percent is very low, obviously just sprinkled right on

448
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Speaker 1: the top that I actually through the bagel, but hey,

449
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Speaker 1: it's better than nothing. And I think as long as

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Speaker 1: you're putting some sort of good protein serf on it,

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking cream cheese and a bit of smoked salmon,

452
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Speaker 1: maybe some cottage cheese and some sliced tomato, fresh basil,

453
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Speaker 1: that sort of thing. Or you could even do you know,

454
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Speaker 1: a couple of eggs with some roasted veggies or something

455
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Speaker 1: on top would be really lovely.

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Speaker 2: So I think as a base.

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Speaker 1: From a gluten free perspective, this one's a winter It's

458
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Speaker 1: pretty good, is it? There are certainly sometimes with gluten

459
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Speaker 1: free bread that are healthier ingredient wise, But if you're

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Speaker 1: a bagel lover and if your client reports that it

461
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Speaker 1: tastes pretty good, I don't have an issue with this

462
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Speaker 1: at all.

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Speaker 2: And you know what, this is probably.

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Speaker 1: Better macronutrient and nutrition wise, that nutrition panel wise than

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Speaker 1: a lot of the standard bagels on the market, So

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Speaker 1: I'd probably if I have a client that loves bagels

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Speaker 1: and they didn't need gluten free, I might even recommend

468
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Speaker 1: something like this because, as you said, the carbohydrate content

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Speaker 1: is a lot lower and it's very calorie controlled, unlike

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Speaker 1: some of the other bagels, which can easily be two

471
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Speaker 1: three hundred grams plus and far more carbohydrate. So I

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Speaker 1: don't have a problem with it. I think you just

473
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Speaker 1: need to be wary of the toppings, and if the

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Speaker 1: goal is about lost really trying to get some sort

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Speaker 1: of protein on top of that good.

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Speaker 3: I'm so happy because I thought it was pretty good

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Speaker 3: and I just wanted to double check with my associate

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Speaker 3: on her expertise.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, that was a great find, so checking them out.

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Speaker 3: They're in the gluten free section of Woolies and that's

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Speaker 3: the gluten free Woolworth brand seeded bagel, and I haven't

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Speaker 3: given Willie is a bit of a rat for a

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Speaker 3: few weeks. So they've finally come good with a product.

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Speaker 3: They're in our good books again, so well done.

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Speaker 1: Can I quickly say something about the Health Star rating though, yes, definitely.

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of people don't understand that when

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Speaker 1: of stars to given to a health Star rating, there's

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Speaker 1: a certain set of criterias within this. I was just

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Speaker 1: having a conversation with my client the other day and

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Speaker 1: she's like, I can't believe this frozen pizza has There

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Speaker 1: was like four stars, and a lot of people don't

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Speaker 1: understand that when they're using the health Star rating, they're

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Speaker 1: comparing similar products within that category. So this bagel has

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Speaker 1: four point five health Stars compared to other bagels on

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Speaker 1: the market, right, it's not saying that this product overall

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Speaker 1: is four point five out of five. So you're not

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Speaker 1: saying that this bagel is better than Greek yogurt. We're

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Speaker 1: not saying that this bagel is better than say, dense

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Speaker 1: seated soylin bread. What we're saying is that, compared to

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Speaker 1: all of the other similar bagels on the market, not

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Speaker 1: just golut in free ones, just bagels in general, this

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Speaker 1: is four point five stars. So compared to all of

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Speaker 1: the bagels, this is a better product than the majority

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Speaker 1: of bagels out there.

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Speaker 2: And like I said to my client within the.

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Speaker 1: Frozen pizza section, that frozen pizza she had picked up

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Speaker 1: was a better option than the majority of the other

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Speaker 1: frozen pizzas. Is frozen pizza four point five out of

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Speaker 1: five stars compared to all the other foods. No, but

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Speaker 1: it is better than the other frozen pizzas within that category.

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Speaker 2: So just be aware if you're picking up products with.

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Speaker 1: Health star ratings, no worries, but you're only comparing that

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Speaker 1: to similar products.

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Speaker 2: If you pick up a musi bar and it's got.

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Speaker 1: Five stars, it's better than a lot of the other

516
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Speaker 1: musli bars in the musei bar category compared to the

517
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Speaker 1: amount of sugars lower, the fibers higher, saturagic facts lower.

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Speaker 1: As an example, you're not saying that a musli bar

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Speaker 1: is better then say extra version olive oil or you know,

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Speaker 1: fresh filled of salmon.

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Speaker 4: Now that's what pizza. Was it that was four stars?

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Speaker 4: Was it the frou Pro?

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Speaker 1: I think so, yeah, yeah, yeah, because it was higher protein,

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Speaker 1: higher fiber, and it was quite low fat.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and just a note about that actually, So two

526
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Speaker 3: of the major criticisms of the health Star rating is

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Speaker 3: that it doesn't take into account processed ingredients. So, as

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Speaker 3: we've spoken before in terms of wraps, you know there's

529
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Speaker 3: a lot of highly processed reps out there that might

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Speaker 3: be high protein, and when you look at the ingredient list,

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Speaker 3: it has that real process types of fiber and pro

532
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Speaker 3: in it, and the same as in this bagel, it's

533
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Speaker 3: got that refined tapiocre starch to make it. So my

534
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Speaker 3: issue is it doesn't take into account quality of ingredient,

535
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Speaker 3: and so food manufacturers can basically engineer ingredients that are

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Speaker 3: okay according to health Star ratings, but not balanced or

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Speaker 3: not judged in terms of degree of processing of ingredients,

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Speaker 3: which is why we often say it might have a

539
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Speaker 3: four health Star rating, but it's highly processed. And second,

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Speaker 3: it doesn't take into account additives, and that's my biggest issue.

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Speaker 3: You know there's a snack for kids like pea snaps

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Speaker 3: that have got MSG, and I think it's got five

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Speaker 3: health stars, like you cannot have a product with five

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Speaker 3: health stars. It's got added MSG. So I think it

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Speaker 3: just needs to complete overhaul. So I actually take it

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Speaker 3: with a grain of salt. I never look at it,

547
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Speaker 3: and I think it's highly misleading. So I think, always

548
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Speaker 3: quick scatter your ingredient list, and there's a general of thumb,

549
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Speaker 3: the short of the ingredient list, the healthier the food

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Speaker 3: it's going to be.

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Speaker 4: So I think that's the best health star rating guide

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Speaker 4: you've got.

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Speaker 1: I agree, and I just quickly looked up that for

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Speaker 1: a pro pizza for the listeners at home, it is

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Speaker 1: four star rating. It's pepperoni in hand. Like would we

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Speaker 1: ever as titians recommend pepperoni and ham right, No, But

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Speaker 1: as you said, they've like they've modified the ingredients to

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Speaker 1: fit the criteria. Is it from a macro and a

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Speaker 1: calorie and a nutrient perspective on paper better than other

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Speaker 1: types of frozen pizza?

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Speaker 2: Yes? But is frozen pizza healthy like hard?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 2: Do you know what I mean? Like you can eat it? Sure,

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Speaker 2: there's not a problem with it.

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Speaker 1: But it's not like making a beautiful salmon filipp meal

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Speaker 1: with some vegetables and some brown rice at home. It

567
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Speaker 1: is entirely two different things. So, like you said, take

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Speaker 1: it with a grain of salt and just.

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Speaker 3: One other little funny supermarket thing that I wanted to

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Speaker 3: talk about. It's not worth a whole segment, so I'll

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Speaker 3: mention it now. So I had a client message me

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Speaker 3: and say, is the baby bell proteins black baby bells

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Speaker 3: better than the red baby Bells?

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Speaker 4: And I said to her, Oh, I don't know. Actually,

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Speaker 4: let me have a look.

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Speaker 2: Slightly slightly aren't there.

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Speaker 3: So the black baby bell protein has five grams of

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Speaker 3: protein and the regular baby Bell's got four point seven.

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Speaker 4: How funny is that.

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Speaker 2: I've looked at it. I've looked that up before.

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Speaker 1: I had a client asked me the same thing, and

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Speaker 1: I said the same thing.

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Speaker 2: I'm I'm not sure.

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Speaker 1: Let's look up and we did and we were like, oh,

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Speaker 1: like they're barely I recommend. I've been recommending to stand

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Speaker 1: that little baby bell cheese is little protein hit for

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Speaker 1: years now, and then when they brought out the black

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Speaker 1: protein one, I was like, interesting, just go to show

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Speaker 1: the power of marketing right.

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Speaker 2: People wouldn't read it. They just pick up the protein one.

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Speaker 3: Oh that is shocking er quite three difference, and they're

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Speaker 3: calling one protein and one anot. I just thought that

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Speaker 3: is a classic example of supermarket it's so bad.

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Speaker 4: It's funny. You know, this is food marketers. They just

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Speaker 4: they don't.

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Speaker 3: Really care, but they're happy to sell more products, so

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Speaker 3: they stick protein.

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Speaker 4: And if it goes so, I'd be interested to.

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Speaker 3: Look at the sales of the protein versus the red

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Speaker 3: I think it probably does pretty well.

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Speaker 4: Anyway, Leanne this one for you.

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Speaker 3: That's why I wanted to quickly spot rolls because this

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Speaker 3: was not around when I had my kids, but it's

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Speaker 3: very popular nowadays. I see dietitians online with babies through

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Speaker 3: it all the time, and a list of questions come

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Speaker 3: through on an Instagram account, and that's the best way

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Speaker 3: to get in contact with us. We do go through

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Speaker 3: and pull questions from there all the time, so it's

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Speaker 3: just an interritioncouch dot com. And we also have our

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Speaker 3: Design by Dietitians Instagram, which is about our product rate,

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Speaker 3: which includes our Nourish Protein powder and hopefully soon our

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Speaker 3: hop chocolate powder as we formulate it to taste good.

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Speaker 3: But the question that came through today leanne are gelatine

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Speaker 3: gummies good for kids?

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Speaker 1: So gelatine gummy, it's not like not gummy multi vitamins.

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Speaker 1: That's where I thought you were going. You mean gelatine gummy. No,

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Speaker 1: like gelatine gummies. You know how people make that stuff? Now, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I've seen you make them.

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Speaker 2: I've made them. Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 4: Why are you doing that?

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Speaker 1: So the ones that I buy are from Neutral Organics.

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Speaker 1: I buy the gelatine powder from them and I got

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Speaker 1: the molds as well, So there's nothing wrong with them,

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Speaker 1: Like do you know what I mean? Like, there's nothing

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Speaker 1: because I.

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Speaker 4: Don't understand what they're for.

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Speaker 3: Like I understand the multi vitamin gummies, like you're giving

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Speaker 3: kids the vitamins in like a lolly, so.

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Speaker 4: They eat it. But why are people making these gummies?

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Speaker 4: What's it for?

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Speaker 2: It's it's different to a lolly.

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Speaker 1: So instead of giving your kids like a lot like

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Speaker 1: a bag of lollies, basically you're giving them like a

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Speaker 1: healthy gelatin gummy. So there's a lot of I would

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Speaker 1: say natural health therapist who will say that gelatine's very

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Speaker 1: good for your gut. It helps heal you're gout that

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Speaker 1: thing like it is a good you know, amino acid,

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Speaker 1: but it doesn't. There's not a whole lot of research

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00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 1: that it actually is gut healing like it's promoted. But

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Speaker 1: I have certainly made these mir and she loves them

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Speaker 1: because she's finally at that age where she's at the

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Speaker 1: park and she sees kids with lollies and with chocolate

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Speaker 1: and I'm like, no, Mommy didn't bring that.

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Speaker 2: But I bought you a gelatin gummy.

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Speaker 1: And what it does is that there's I've buy the

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Speaker 1: brand from Neutro Organic.

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Speaker 2: I quite like it.

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Speaker 1: They're called Gutsy Gummies and there's a strawberry, blueberry and

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00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:28,359
Speaker 1: a mango flavor. They're not cheap, I will say, like

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Speaker 1: it's an investment, but I just thought it was a

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00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 1: fun little thing that we could do together and new

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00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 1: just pop them in their fridge and they freeze them.

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Speaker 1: So it's an alternative to basically giving your kids lollies.

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Speaker 1: So I much I would say better alternative. And yeah,

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Speaker 1: they do have a little bit of sort of protein

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Speaker 1: amino acids and a bit of that gelatine in there.

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Speaker 1: They do promote it as supporting gut well being, but

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Speaker 1: As I said, I haven't been able to see too

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Speaker 1: much research that it does help from a gut perspective.

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Speaker 1: But what we do know that gelatin for adults is

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Speaker 1: really helpful for if you've ever done your ACL. There's

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Speaker 1: some really good research in the rehab area four gelatin

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Speaker 1: and four vitamin C. So if you're recovering from a

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Speaker 1: big injury you've done your ACL, look up some of

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Speaker 1: the research in terms of gelatin and vitamin C because

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Speaker 1: that is actually very strong from a supports nutrition perspective.

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Speaker 4: Well, that's interesting. I haven't heard that either, So that's good, Okay,

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Speaker 4: very interesting, all rightly, And what that figs us to

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Speaker 4: the end of the Nutrition Couch for another week. If

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Speaker 2: Thanks guys,