1 00:00:01,560 --> 00:00:05,080 Speaker 1: On today's show, the Kerns desperate bid for new followers, 2 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:09,040 Speaker 1: Laura Byrne and Maddie Jay's buddy Moon, the vagina bearing 3 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: latest swimwear trend, and Taylor Swift's unlikely masterclass in how 4 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 1: to be friends with an ex. Hello, and welcome to Outspoken. 5 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:20,439 Speaker 1: It's your dose of the hottest influencer and pop culture 6 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 1: news twice a week. I'm Sophie Torbert. And on the weekend, 7 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:26,760 Speaker 1: for anyone who is invested, we had our second round 8 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 1: of our My Kitchen Rules competition. Kay, it was at 9 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 1: your house this time, and thankfully there were no tears. Yeah, 10 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 1: I was very happy we ended up on top of 11 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 1: the leaderboards. Who've kicked Amy and Dale off? You were happy? 12 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 1: Were you? Because I got messages after saying you weren't 13 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 1: happy with the score and that you felt there was 14 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 1: a bit of strategic voting. Look, I put on a 15 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:49,879 Speaker 1: happiest face during the scoring because I didn't want to 16 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:53,159 Speaker 1: bring down the mood like last time. Our dad wasn't there, 17 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 1: so he wasn't the problem. But I did feel like 18 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 1: Amy and Dale were being a little bit strategic with 19 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 1: some of their scores. It definitely was not intentional at all. 20 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 1: They just didn't like the food. Maybe no, the food. 21 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:07,559 Speaker 1: The food was delicious. Kate and Reese did a fantastic job, 22 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:10,119 Speaker 1: but we were voting based on what other people had 23 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 1: scored us previously, so but we were weighing up our 24 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:16,400 Speaker 1: scores and equally comparing how we felt you did. This 25 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 1: is a masterclass in how to not be friends. By 26 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 1: the end of the god when we were driving home, 27 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:23,760 Speaker 1: we were just having a laugh about the whole competition, 28 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 1: and Dal was like, when did anyone think it was 29 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 1: a good idea, like to actually score people. We should 30 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 1: have just done it and just done it as a 31 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 1: nice dinner party because we had such a fun night 32 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 1: because Kate's Kate's theme was Stepford Wife, because we say 33 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 1: that Kate is a Stepford wife. And it was so 34 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 1: cute because Reese was dressed in a tuxedo. You were 35 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 1: dressed up in a beautiful dress, and you had hair 36 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 1: nicely done, not like you amy for yours who you 37 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 1: were wearing your tracks with cants. That was a little 38 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 1: bit of the strategy. We thought if we looked like 39 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 1: we were in control and not stressed out, and we're 40 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 1: putting our game faces forward. Really from the onset. Even 41 00:01:57,160 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 1: your dogs were dressed in their little suits from your wedding. 42 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 1: There was a lot of rehashed stuff from your wedding though, 43 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 1: a lot of candles, and we spent a lot of 44 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 1: money on that stuff, so we thought, why not reuse it, 45 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 1: you know, go for the environment and the theming. I 46 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 1: was a little surprised because it was kind of inconsistent. 47 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 1: But apparently the menu was based on your favorite Okay, 48 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:16,799 Speaker 1: so Kate got a bit funny because we scored her. 49 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 1: I think it was a seven point five for the overall, 50 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:21,800 Speaker 1: like am Beyonce? And do you know what, Kate? The 51 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 1: reasoning was is because you had Italian at the start, 52 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 1: so your main was. 53 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 2: This Kate's looking very compete with Barada, which was delicious. 54 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 1: Then the main was Indian and then the dessert was French. Said, yeah, 55 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 1: it was a bit of like different nationalities when to 56 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 1: ever say it had to be a set country theme 57 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 1: like I was originally planning to do Italian. I was 58 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:46,640 Speaker 1: going to do a Mouthi theme dinner party. However, you 59 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 1: had an Italian dinner party, so I thought why not 60 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:52,679 Speaker 1: showcase recent my favorite things. We had Singapore slain cocktails. 61 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:55,239 Speaker 1: We had I've always made profitter roles as a kid, 62 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:57,799 Speaker 1: so we had shoe pastry buns. We tried to take 63 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 1: it up notch though, and add different elements own ice cream. 64 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 1: My view is just that you don't go to a 65 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:05,079 Speaker 1: restaurant and you get Italian as an entree, then Indie, 66 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 1: and then you do Actually, because there is a Seinfeld episode, 67 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 1: the Dream Cafe, that was what our restaurant was based on. Now, 68 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 1: Brandon and I we are the dark courses of this competition. 69 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 1: No one thinks that we're going to do well, but 70 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:18,359 Speaker 1: we are planning now and I'm putting it out there. 71 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 2: You guys are going to be surprised. 72 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 1: Oh I'm very excited. It is actually really nice to 73 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 1: get your restaurant over and done with so you can 74 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:25,920 Speaker 1: just enjoy the other ones. Is it bad that I 75 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:28,360 Speaker 1: kind of want you and Brandon to win now, just 76 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 1: because it's so unexpected, all the powers in your hands. 77 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 1: Do you get kind of with your voting? Do you almost 78 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 1: think for the last two restaurants we keep the votes secret, 79 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 1: so it adds a bit of extra element that would 80 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 1: be good. 81 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 2: There should be a grand announcement. 82 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 1: I think we also need to come up with the 83 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 1: prize because it just needs to be sheep stations at 84 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 1: the moment over nothing. 85 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 3: I may have bet with Sarah that whoever had the 86 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 3: least amount of followings on Threads by eight pm one 87 00:03:53,640 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 3: Sunday would get the other person's name tattooed on their person's. 88 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 1: A bit for followers on brand new social media app Threads, 89 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 1: Sarah and Brad Kerns have made a bet declaring that 90 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 1: the person with the least amount of followers by Sunday 91 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 1: night will be forced to get a tattoo of the 92 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 1: other person's name. Now, it seems to have backfired for 93 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:17,839 Speaker 1: one half of the couple, and that is Brad Kerns, 94 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 1: who was known as dad Mum on Instagram. So followers 95 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 1: began unfollowing Brad in order for Sarah to win the competition, 96 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 1: and he wasn't thrilled about this, so he put out 97 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:30,679 Speaker 1: a video on Sunday night, when there was an hour 98 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 1: of the competition to go, basically begging his followers to 99 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 1: come in strong. 100 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:37,279 Speaker 2: At the end. Here's a snippet of what he said. 101 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 3: It's seven pm. I'm three hundred followers down. I've known 102 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 3: this all weekend and i haven't had time to be 103 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 3: on the app. She has I sit before you, showing 104 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 3: you that today I had a cat maid for her 105 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 3: and I thought we could get past this and our 106 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:02,239 Speaker 3: relationship was stronger. It is not. She wants ink, not cotton. 107 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 3: So I'm begging you unashamedly. I seek your pity. I 108 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 3: hope that you look down on me whilst you follow 109 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 3: me and not her, so you can get my name 110 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 3: put on her. We have one hour do this often. 111 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 1: Shut up. 112 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 3: I'm begging you. I don't want her name on you. 113 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 1: So in return, does that mean he started losing followers 114 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 1: on Instagram as well? Because aren't threads on Instagram connected? No, 115 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 1: so he wouldn't have lost followers on Instagram just on threads. 116 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 1: I think that's confusion because Threads and Instagram are connected. 117 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:40,840 Speaker 1: So in order to make Threads as easy as possible 118 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:42,840 Speaker 1: for people to sign up to, it is connected to 119 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 1: your Instagram account. So when you download the app and 120 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 1: log in, you have the option if you want to 121 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:50,720 Speaker 1: follow everyone that you're following on Instagram with just a 122 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:52,840 Speaker 1: click of a button, but you can actually choose not 123 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 1: to and then just follow people organically. Has anyone noticed 124 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:58,279 Speaker 1: on your Instagram bio that it says at and it 125 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:01,159 Speaker 1: says the number that you see to threats like, I 126 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:04,479 Speaker 1: think it looks so really visually, like unappealing. I was 127 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 1: waiting for them to actually change it to your hand. Also, 128 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 1: it's because it's the number that you signed up, so 129 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:12,160 Speaker 1: it's supposed to be a bad ja bonna to be like, wow, 130 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 1: look I was number one hundred. I'm so quick to 131 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:17,359 Speaker 1: the game, like, I know what's happening. I don't like 132 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 1: it now. Getting back to Sarah and Brad, Brad of course, 133 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:24,040 Speaker 1: ended up losing because all of their followers got behind 134 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 1: Sarah and started unfollowing him. It's funny because Sarah wrote 135 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 1: underneath his post, this is turning out better than I 136 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 1: ever expected. This was all his idea rookie. Now he 137 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:37,159 Speaker 1: ended up losing by a couple of hundred votes, and 138 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:39,679 Speaker 1: as part of the rule, he has forty eight hours 139 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:41,600 Speaker 1: to provide his tattoo. 140 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 2: Design for approval. 141 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 1: It just reminds me of that reality show just to 142 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:47,480 Speaker 1: two of us that Charlotte Crosby hosted where friends had 143 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: to pick out tattoos for the other one and they 144 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 1: were always this horrendous, ugly design and I had the 145 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 1: unveiling I wonder if they'll do an unveiling on threads. Well, 146 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 1: I don't know how bad they can get with this 147 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:58,480 Speaker 1: because it just has to be her name. A lot 148 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 1: of people were saying, just get it really, really tiny. 149 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 1: The thing that I just find weird about this is 150 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 1: how desperate they are for followers on threads that they 151 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 1: have to go to this level to. 152 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 2: Try and get people to follow them. 153 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 1: Are you guys on thread No, I'm not yet, because 154 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 1: really I see everyone is on there, but I don't 155 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 1: know what thoughts I have to share the Yeah, I 156 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 1: signed up and I was like, oh, this kind of 157 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 1: looks shit, But then I heard you can't actually deactivate 158 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 1: your Threads account because then your Instagram is lost as well. 159 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 1: That's why I didn't sign up, because I was like, oh, 160 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 1: don't want to lose my Instagram. But I think it's 161 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 1: going to expose a lot of influences. We saw it 162 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 1: with a TikTok. How a lot weren't able to actually 163 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 1: move into the video space because maybe they're a little 164 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 1: bit boring. I feel like there's influencers out there who 165 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 1: might not have much to say on threads. Also, if 166 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 1: you're trying to be really funny, that can get you 167 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 1: in trouble in terms of offending people pretty easily because 168 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 1: there's not a lot of tone that goes with tech. 169 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 1: Remember back in the day when all the influencers were 170 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 1: writing really offensive things like, for example, El Darby's tweets 171 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 1: at have resurfaced. Do you think that we're going to 172 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:00,080 Speaker 1: find a lot of influencers getting into trouble because they 173 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 1: might not think through tweets. No, because it's not a 174 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: new forum like we've had Twitter for years and years. 175 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 1: Influencers now know that they have to be very careful 176 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 1: of what they're saying. I think it does give them 177 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 1: more leeway to actually say the wrong thing, but I 178 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 1: don't think they're going to just revert back to their 179 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 1: pre social media days and be putting stupid shit in 180 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 1: particularly when Mark Zuckerberg is touting as such a positive 181 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 1: place to have important discussions. I do find it funny though, 182 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 1: because whenever you're having discussions about important things, it leads 183 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 1: to conflict and arguments. So I don't know how long 184 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:32,560 Speaker 1: that space is going to remain positive. 185 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 4: It all started when we got off the plane and 186 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 4: discovered that the fly Low Hotel complex hadn't been built yet. 187 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 4: It was just a mound of earth. Well, and that 188 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 4: was our first disappointment, but we thought, ho hum, let's 189 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 4: get on with it. 190 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 1: Buddy. Moons have been named the biggest wedding trend of 191 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, and that is basically when you bring 192 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 1: your best friends along with you on your honeymoon. And 193 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 1: wedding planners are saying that couples are adopting a party first, 194 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 1: wedding second mindset, which is spilling into their honeymoons. 195 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 5: Yea. 196 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 1: And we've seen this recently with Bachelor Royalty Mattie Jay 197 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 1: and Laura Burns. So they went on their honeymoon last 198 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:10,719 Speaker 1: week to Fiji, and not only did Laura bring her 199 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 1: sister and her husband along, but also all of their kids. 200 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 1: There were four kids on their honeymoon and Laura sheared 201 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 1: highlights from the trip and wrote, honeymoons are supposed to 202 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 1: be the most romantic time of your life and there 203 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 1: is nothing that screams romance quite like four kids, getting 204 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 1: your period on day one and a husband whose hobby 205 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 1: is swimming lengths of the hotel pool underwater. Fiji. You're beautiful. 206 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 1: Cheers to the best week with ones I love the 207 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 1: most I thought it was classic because underneath this post, 208 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 1: Mattie J wrote, if swimming thirty meters under the water 209 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 1: isn't the strongest aphrodisiac, I don't know what is. I 210 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 1: just love that Mattie J and Laura they always keep 211 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 1: it real because I feel like a lot of parents 212 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 1: with young kids could relate to the fact that sometimes 213 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 1: in life you just have to bring your kids along 214 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:54,440 Speaker 1: with you on these trips. It was pretty interesting because 215 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:57,320 Speaker 1: Laura spoke on Life Uncut before they went on their honeymoon, 216 00:09:57,320 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 1: saying that her and Matti J. Weren't really in the 217 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:01,560 Speaker 1: best place that they've been in their relationships. She said, 218 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:04,559 Speaker 1: things are fine, but they've been struggling to find time 219 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:07,199 Speaker 1: to spend together because she's been doing Dancing with the Stars. 220 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 1: And this was in stark contrast to brit who had 221 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:12,200 Speaker 1: just got back from this very romantic getaway and Bali 222 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 1: with her long distance boyfriend Ben and they're in this 223 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 1: love bubble and very obsessed with each other. I think 224 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 1: more listeners could relate to Laura's situation where you've been 225 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 1: in a long term relationship and you've got young kids 226 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 1: and it's difficult to find that spark and time for 227 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 1: just the two of you, Whereas I actually don't think 228 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 1: that many people listening could relate to this long distance 229 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 1: love bubble situation that BRIT's in. I think everyone's been 230 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:36,239 Speaker 1: in that honeymoon phase at the start of a relationship 231 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 1: where you're obsessed with each Yeah, but I think that 232 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 1: their honeymoon stage is extended because of the fact that 233 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 1: they both lived these very luxurious lifestyles. Yeah. But if 234 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 1: you look at Mattie Jay and Laura, it's funny because 235 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:49,320 Speaker 1: because they found love on The Bachelor, they could be 236 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 1: seen as quite this glamorous couple. But because they do 237 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:54,680 Speaker 1: take the piss out of themselves, that's why they've remained 238 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 1: so likable. I mean, even I saw all these shots 239 00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 1: of Mattie Jay walking on the beach and he's got 240 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 1: an amazing body, and also shots of Laura lying lying dad. 241 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 1: She's got like six pack abs. She looks incredible. But 242 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 1: people aren't intimidated by it because they're laughing at themselves 243 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 1: and they show the real side of life. Its actually 244 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 1: like traveling with kids. It was funny because she put 245 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 1: up a photo and she had a cocktail and a 246 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:16,680 Speaker 1: dummy in the same hand and she wrote honeymooning with 247 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 1: kids In one photo, if you don't look closer, you 248 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 1: might miss it, the woman running down the beach telling 249 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 1: her toddler not to pooh into the sand in front 250 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 1: of the day beds. It's funny because I feel like 251 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 1: you're judged either way. So if you have a honeymoon 252 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:29,839 Speaker 1: and you bring kids on it, people are like, oh, 253 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 1: that's a little bit odd. And then save for anahein 254 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 1: Rich and Tim Robus, they recently went to Europe and 255 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 1: left their daughter alone and they were copying, Oh, why 256 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 1: didn't you bring her? So I feel like, with kids, 257 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 1: you're never going to keep everyone happy. That wasn't for 258 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 1: their honeymoon. Wasn't that just a general holiday? This blew 259 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:46,960 Speaker 1: my mind. So they went over to Europe for their 260 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 1: five year wedding anniversary. Well, how the hell was their 261 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 1: wedding five years ago? And it also blew my mind 262 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 1: further when I realized that they met ten years ago 263 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 1: on The Bachelor. It does feel like a long time ago, 264 00:11:57,640 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 1: back when The Bachelor was actually good. I can see 265 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:02,200 Speaker 1: why Maddie, Jay and Laura did the whole buddy moon 266 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 1: thing because of the fact they have children. It's like 267 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 1: in build babysits. Yeah, but if I was going away now, 268 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 1: like I'm obviously planning a honeymoon with Dale, I wouldn't 269 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 1: invite you guys along and all my friends. I just 270 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 1: feel like your honeymoon is meant to be that time 271 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 1: away with your partner. Yeah, as you say, with the 272 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 1: whole kids thing, I can see how that would work 273 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 1: really well because you've sort of got kids who can 274 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:24,960 Speaker 1: go off and play together, and then you actually do 275 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 1: have some quality time with your partner and your friends, 276 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:29,839 Speaker 1: because I find a lot of the time that when 277 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 1: you do hang out as couples, you almost bring out 278 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:35,440 Speaker 1: the best in each other because you're all having to try. 279 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:38,440 Speaker 1: Like someone's not sitting on their phone watching sport. Yeah, 280 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 1: you're actually having to engage. So I can see. I 281 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:44,200 Speaker 1: actually think that a buddy moon sounds quite fun because 282 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 1: I would love to go on a buddy moon to 283 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 1: Europe with all of us. I suppose you're in a 284 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 1: different situation though, because your partner, Brandon was friends with 285 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 1: me first, so we used to work together, so we've 286 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 1: always had that built in friendship group. So maybe for 287 00:12:57,679 --> 00:13:00,680 Speaker 1: some people that's partners don't get a lot it wouldn't 288 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 1: be a great situation. I mean, we've actually never had 289 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 1: a holiday overseas just the two of us, so we've 290 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 1: traveled to Malaysia and Balley, and that's always been in 291 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 1: a big group. So I am actually really looking forward 292 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 1: to our honeymoon just being the two of us. But 293 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:16,440 Speaker 1: I could also see how a buddy moon would be 294 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 1: so much fun. That being said, I found out that 295 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 1: Dale's ex they were planning a buddy moon, so he 296 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 1: was engaged before he met me, and yeah, I saw 297 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 1: all these plans for buddy moon. I was like, how 298 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:28,200 Speaker 1: much you guys hate each other that you had to 299 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 1: invite people on your honeymoonying that though, because they ended 300 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 1: up breaking up shortly afterwards, so I don't think that's 301 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:35,320 Speaker 1: a sign for everyone. 302 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 2: I was so fascinated to hear that Jesse Stevens. 303 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:40,839 Speaker 1: Who is the podcast host of Mama Mia Out Loud, 304 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 1: that when she and her husband Luca went on their honeymoon, 305 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:47,080 Speaker 1: Mia Friedman and her family actually joined them. So if 306 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:50,680 Speaker 1: those not connecting the dots, MEA. Friedman is Jesse's boss 307 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:53,559 Speaker 1: but also her mother in law. How do you feel 308 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 1: about the mother in law coming on the honeymoon This 309 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 1: is a very unusual situation that I don't think would 310 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 1: occur much. Because Jesse and mea I would say that 311 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 1: they're friends. They host mom and me are out loud together. Yes, 312 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 1: Mia is Jesse's boss, but I feel like they've got 313 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 1: quite a good dynamic between them. I think it would 314 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:11,679 Speaker 1: be very different if it was just someone's mother in 315 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:15,080 Speaker 1: law that came along that they didn't have this friendship beforehand. Look, 316 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:18,079 Speaker 1: I personally wouldn't want to go on a honeymoon with 317 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 1: my mother in law. I don't think many people would. 318 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 5: No. 319 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 1: I mean, in that situation, it may have worked well 320 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 1: for them. But I was surprised that Jesse's sister Claire 321 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 1: wasn't on the honeymoon. I think she should have been 322 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 1: allowed to. I was allowed to. I think it was 323 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 1: also because Jesse was quite heavily pregnant at the time, 324 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 1: so I don't think it's the typical honeymoon where you're 325 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 1: maybe spending a lot of romantic time with each other. 326 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 2: You know, maybe that was a factor in it. 327 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 1: I think it definitely was a factor. 328 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 5: I feel like that was miscommunication. 329 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 1: I don't know why, what do you mean miscommunication? You 330 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 1: said what you said? 331 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 5: They you did. I repeated what they asked me. I 332 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 5: said it'd be interesting to see if she's on mouthphone. 333 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 5: Well you said that's not you said it, making me 334 00:14:58,040 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 5: feel like a piece of shit. 335 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 1: I recently heard someone say that you show your age 336 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 1: by how you react to the latest swimwear trends, So 337 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 1: I'm very interested to hear your thoughts on the latest one. 338 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 1: So last week at Miami Swim Week, a new swimwear 339 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 1: trend emerged on the runway. Now we're used to seeing 340 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 1: recent trends of bikinis having less and less coverage, but 341 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 1: this took things to a whole new level. So it's 342 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:24,239 Speaker 1: been dubbed the minimal bikini, and it's essentially a bikini 343 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 1: bottom that is a reverse G string. So news dot 344 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:30,479 Speaker 1: com to au described it as a vagina bearing bikini. 345 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 1: The journalist also brot it was so skimpy it is 346 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 1: arguably indecent. Now to put these quotes into perspective, it 347 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 1: literally looked like the bikini model was naked. One had 348 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 1: this star shaped piece of silver fabric that barely covered 349 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 1: her nipples and vagina, and then there was this thin 350 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 1: spaghetti strap that held the stars together. You could hardly 351 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 1: see the stars though, because they blended in with the 352 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 1: model's skin tone, and news dot com dot Au had 353 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 1: to actually blur the images because you could literally see 354 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 1: the models Vachina. Yeah, I mean, as you say, I'm 355 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 1: probably showing my age with this, but I was quite 356 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 1: taken back by these bikinis. And I also have been 357 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 1: quite surprised by some of the bikini choices on Love Island, 358 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 1: because it must be the inn thing at the moment 359 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 1: for the under booth to constantly be shown. Yeah, because 360 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 1: I keep thinking, honey, you've your boobs fog, but it's not. 361 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 1: That's the training. They all look fantastic, don't get me wrong, 362 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 1: they all look incredible, but for me going on a holiday, 363 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 1: I really wouldn't feel comfortable. I've read this complex though, 364 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 1: because to me, it's always seemed weird, especially if you're 365 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 1: on a family holiday to be in really skimpy bay. 366 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 1: There's like, yeah, maybe if you're going with your partner 367 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 1: or your friends, but there's a weird thing about going 368 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 1: and being in skimpy bay. 369 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 2: There's in front of you. 370 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm currently searching for a bikini for my honeymoon 371 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 1: and Barley and these bikinis would definitely not be making 372 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 1: into my cart, even though it's just a holiday for 373 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 1: me and my partner. You might have to confirm though, 374 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 1: that mum and Dad aren't going on your honeymoon. 375 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 3: No. 376 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 1: After the last topic, No, it's just Recee and I 377 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 1: that are going. It's really hard to find nice bikini though, because, 378 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 1: as you say, we are in our thirties and you know, 379 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:07,439 Speaker 1: I'm used to having a bikini bottom that covers my ass. Like, 380 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 1: I don't mind if it's a little bit cheeky, but 381 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:11,440 Speaker 1: I don't want to be wearing a fucking reverse g 382 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 1: string showing off my bloody vagina flaps. I also want 383 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 1: a bit of a structure in the top area. I 384 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:19,159 Speaker 1: need a bit of support, as in, I don't have 385 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:20,680 Speaker 1: any boobs, but I want. 386 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 2: To look like I've got boobs. I don't want to 387 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 2: look like I've got nothing. 388 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 4: Yeah. 389 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 1: See, I kind of like the look of sports bras 390 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 1: because they've got the padding in there. They make your 391 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 1: boobs actually look okay, whereas with bikinis, like all of 392 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:33,160 Speaker 1: the ones on the market at the moment are so flimsy, 393 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:35,879 Speaker 1: even in the top. See. I have never worn a 394 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 1: one piece as an adult, but I feel like they 395 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:41,399 Speaker 1: look really classy. I think this new trend is just 396 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:44,160 Speaker 1: ultimate shop value because they couldn't have made the back 397 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 1: of the bather's any skimpier. They're like far out, what 398 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 1: else can we actually do? Do it to the front. 399 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 1: The thing that's sad is I don't really think that 400 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:53,399 Speaker 1: these bathers are being made for women in mind. These 401 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:55,680 Speaker 1: are being made for men to oggle in a There's 402 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 1: so many women who want bathers to actually feel like they. 403 00:17:59,080 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 2: Can fit in them. 404 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:03,200 Speaker 1: We've had so many women complain that bathers aren't made 405 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 1: for women's vaginas. Yeah, I mean, I don't think it'd 406 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 1: be very comfortable having a fucking spaghetti strap between your vagina. 407 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 1: Imagine picking around the pool in Bali and you just 408 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:14,640 Speaker 1: sat down for a burger and you're just like, oh 409 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 1: my goodness. Yeah. Well, if anyone does have any batheing recommendations, 410 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 1: sent it through to me because I'm struggling and I'm 411 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:21,160 Speaker 1: going in two weeks time. 412 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 5: Well, she didn't buy the big salad. I bought the 413 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:25,679 Speaker 5: big salad. 414 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 1: She just took credit for my sealing. 415 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:30,120 Speaker 3: Don't you think she should have said. 416 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:31,119 Speaker 5: Something she could? Oh? 417 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:32,639 Speaker 1: Why not a match? 418 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 5: Her? 419 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 4: Taking credit for your big sun. 420 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:40,440 Speaker 1: It's very awkward. An influencer has been caught out pretending 421 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:43,480 Speaker 1: to do a good deed. Now, the influencer, who hasn't 422 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:46,919 Speaker 1: yet been identified, wasn't aware that a member of the 423 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 1: public was capturing the reality of her content shoot. So 424 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:53,120 Speaker 1: in the behind the scenes vision, which has since gone 425 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:57,200 Speaker 1: viral on TikTok, we see the influencer picking up garbage 426 00:18:57,240 --> 00:19:00,879 Speaker 1: while her friend films her. This influencer is there putting 427 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 1: the rubbish in a large black garbage bag before doing 428 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 1: a little dance to finish the video. Then, as soon 429 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:11,200 Speaker 1: as the friend stops filming, the influencer proceeds to throw 430 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 1: the bag of rubbish back on the ground and carelessly 431 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 1: walk away. Hang, and so how do we not know 432 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 1: who it is? If they were filmed, if they've been 433 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 1: blurred or something. Well, there are some theories on who 434 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:23,640 Speaker 1: this person may be. Well, it's because the vision from 435 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:26,879 Speaker 1: the onlooker was taken so far away we can't actually 436 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:29,439 Speaker 1: see the person's face. Now in the vision, we do 437 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:32,399 Speaker 1: hear another person at the beach yell out to the 438 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 1: two women as they walk away, saying, hey, you've left 439 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:38,120 Speaker 1: your bag there. You were doing all this weird shit 440 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 1: with the bags, like pretending to clean up the rubbish. 441 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 1: I've been watching you and the two women simply ignored 442 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 1: these remarks and walked away. What's going through your head? One? 443 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:52,119 Speaker 1: I mean to film this anyway? Like it's so performative. 444 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:55,200 Speaker 1: That's exactly why they're filming, because they want to show 445 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:57,640 Speaker 1: themselves doing a good deed. But why would you then 446 00:19:57,720 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 1: just throw it all over the ground. Let's take the 447 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:02,439 Speaker 1: guar with you. I performatively picked up. I mean, did 448 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 1: they also set the rubbish up as well well to 449 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:08,160 Speaker 1: collect I don't think so. If they threw it back, 450 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:10,920 Speaker 1: I mean, if that's the case, then they're littering as well. 451 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 5: Yeah. 452 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 1: I always find interesting that these people care so much 453 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:16,920 Speaker 1: about how they appear online, but then they don't care 454 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 1: about how they're coming across in real life. Now, this video, 455 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 1: which was captured by a fellow beachgoer, was shared on 456 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:26,400 Speaker 1: a Reddit post with users voting on a poll entitled 457 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:29,200 Speaker 1: I'm a total piece of shit, and so far twenty 458 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 1: one thousand people have voted yes. I'm surprised this wasn't 459 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 1: on Influencers in the wild. Well yeah, Well it didn't 460 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 1: take long for this video to hit TikTok. It now 461 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:41,200 Speaker 1: has one point eight million views at the time of recording. 462 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:43,200 Speaker 2: And as expected, people were pretty. 463 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 1: Disgusted in the comment section. One user wrote, She's a 464 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:48,920 Speaker 1: bigger pile of trash than the stuff she's collecting at 465 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 1: the beach. Another said influencers are mostly trash humans who 466 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 1: were too lazy and or stupid to build a career. Now, 467 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 1: there's been a lot of speculation in the comment section 468 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:02,360 Speaker 1: about who this woman could be. One TikTok user wrongly 469 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 1: accused Adelaide radio and podcast host Dianna Carbone. Now she's 470 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:08,440 Speaker 1: had to come out and deny that she was the 471 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:12,640 Speaker 1: influencer in this clip. After copying such abuse online, she wrote, 472 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 1: in case you missed it, I've been at the head 473 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 1: of a social media attack because somebody somewhere decided that 474 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 1: a video of a girl leaving a bag of rubbish 475 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:23,160 Speaker 1: on the beach was me. I don't make that kind 476 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 1: of influencer content and never have. Myself and my radio 477 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:29,119 Speaker 1: show colleagues, and my business and team have nothing to 478 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 1: do with this. Now, there is a theory that has 479 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:34,679 Speaker 1: been floating around that I think is quite plausible. So 480 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 1: pedestrian writer Sweeney Preston, who covered the story, believes it's 481 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 1: someone filming a comedy sketch where they play a shitty 482 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 1: influencer character. So he thinks that the woman's movements in 483 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 1: the video are too expressive and over the top for 484 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 1: it to be genuine. And I think he could be 485 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 1: onto something, because when you watch the video really closely, 486 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:57,720 Speaker 1: the woman is acting in a very bizarre nature. Yeah, 487 00:21:57,760 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 1: but surely if people were heckling you on the beach, 488 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:02,160 Speaker 1: you take the garbage with you and say, oh, we're 489 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:04,120 Speaker 1: just filming a little bit of a funny video. 490 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 2: That's very true. That is actually a good point. 491 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 1: Wait where was this video even? 492 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 5: Show? 493 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:10,880 Speaker 1: Is it in Australia's an way, It has been reported 494 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 1: in so many different online publications and people aren't quite 495 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 1: sure of the exact location. People think it's either in 496 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:19,879 Speaker 1: Australia or Balley, because I remember there were these people 497 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:22,200 Speaker 1: who they wanted to see if they could get a 498 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:24,200 Speaker 1: video to go viral of a guy that looked a 499 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 1: bit like Justin Bieber. I think he was eating a 500 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 1: burrito the wrong way and it managed to make it 501 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 1: on to Reddit and then obviously it hit the mainstream news. 502 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 1: Seems like someone's trying to prove a point here with 503 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 1: this clip, or someone's just been caught out being dickhady. Yeah. 504 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 1: Either you could tweet the word hello, right, and the 505 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:43,679 Speaker 1: Swifties would be like, yeah, Queen, she said hello. But 506 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:45,639 Speaker 1: then somebody could be like, whats of aggressive? 507 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:48,400 Speaker 4: Why did she do? That's? 508 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 1: Why is she greeting us? 509 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 2: Who is she greeting? 510 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 1: She greeted us too soon, she greeted us too late. 511 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 1: She greeted us with a weird undertone. There's a lot 512 00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:59,479 Speaker 1: going on with Taylor Swift at the moment. In the 513 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 1: midst of it eras to a mania. She released Taylor's 514 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 1: version of Speak Now over the weekend. While the last 515 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 1: re release sparked bad blood between Taylor and her ex 516 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 1: Jake Gillenhole, this time it has resulted in an unlikely 517 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:14,920 Speaker 1: masterclass in how to be friends with an ex? Kate 518 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:17,920 Speaker 1: What's happened so over the weekend during her Eras tour 519 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:21,640 Speaker 1: show in Kansas City, Taylor shocked fans by welcoming her 520 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 1: ex Taylor Lautner on stage. Moments earlier, she sent the 521 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:28,399 Speaker 1: crowd into a spin when she debuted her new music 522 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:30,879 Speaker 1: video for I Can See You what are the songs 523 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 1: from the vault off speak Now? Taylor's version, And as 524 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 1: you can imagine, everyone in the stadium was filming and 525 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:39,960 Speaker 1: let out a unified scream when Lautner appeared in the 526 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:43,200 Speaker 1: music video. And I feel that this reunion on stage 527 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 1: has been a long time coming, no pun intended. So 528 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 1: earlier this month, in the lead up to the re 529 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,720 Speaker 1: release of Speak Now, Lautner shared a video of him 530 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 1: praying for John Mayer, which was extremely well received on TikTok. 531 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 1: For context, the Taylor's dated for a few months back 532 00:23:57,840 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 1: in two thousand and nine after they met on the 533 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:03,360 Speaker 1: set of the movie Valentine's Day, and while their relationship 534 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 1: was short lived, it did result in the song Back 535 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,480 Speaker 1: to December, where Swift sings about how she regrets the 536 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 1: way she treated Lautner. So he got off pretty scott 537 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:14,119 Speaker 1: free with the song because she was the dickhead in 538 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 1: that situation. So you can sort of see why they're 539 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:19,639 Speaker 1: still friends. I saw this viral TikTok and it was 540 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:22,680 Speaker 1: where Taylor Lautner was appearing, and these fans were able 541 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 1: to ask different questions, and one asked, oh, how does 542 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 1: it feel to be the subject of Taylor Swift's song, 543 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 1: and the PR person was like, he's not answering it, 544 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 1: and then he goes, no, no, I'm happy to him. 545 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:34,359 Speaker 1: He said basically that he was quite rapped with it 546 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 1: because it's probably the nicest song about a guy on 547 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 1: her albums. Yeah, it was a very glowing review for Lautner, 548 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 1: and three months after they're split, the Taylors were spotted 549 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:45,920 Speaker 1: out to lunch together and later that year, Swift called 550 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 1: Lautner one of her best friends. Now, this reunion on 551 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:53,160 Speaker 1: stage is a pr dream for both Taylor's. I smiled 552 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 1: so much when Lautner came out and did a cartweel 553 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:56,440 Speaker 1: and a backflip. 554 00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:59,159 Speaker 2: It was so cute to see the two of them together. 555 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 1: And I mean I was sort of sad that Taylor 556 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 1: Lawtner does have a wife, because I was like, oh, 557 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:06,440 Speaker 1: they were so cute together. I was surprised by the 558 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 1: height difference though, because Taylor Swift is about a foot 559 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 1: taller than Did you know that Taylor Lautner was Taylor 560 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 1: Swift's date to the VMA's When Pangnye West got up 561 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 1: on the stage, I did, because as soon as I 562 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:20,359 Speaker 1: saw this tik tok of them together at Taylor's recent tour. 563 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:22,479 Speaker 1: I had to google because I was so thrown by 564 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 1: the height difference. And I did see them, the two 565 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:27,200 Speaker 1: of them on the red carpet, and Taylor towed over 566 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:29,359 Speaker 1: him there as well. I just want to know what's 567 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 1: Taylor Lautner's obsession with dating women called Taylor because his 568 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 1: wife is called Taylor, so they are now both Taylor law. 569 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 1: She actually goes by Tay on her social media. And 570 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 1: what's even funnier is that she is a massive Swiftish. 571 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 1: I don't know how I feel about going to Taylor 572 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,440 Speaker 1: Swift's concert knowing that my husband dated her, Like, I 573 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:49,160 Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, obviously it's been such a long 574 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,640 Speaker 1: time between that, I only went out for a few months. Things. 575 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:54,680 Speaker 2: I would just spend the whole time asking my partner about. 576 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 1: Taylor Swift and I'd be like, why are you with me? 577 00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 1: So it's pretty interesting because Taylor has come out and 578 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 1: said that the two Lautners are her closest friends and 579 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 1: that Yeah, so she said that Taylor Lautner, the male version, 580 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 1: was a very positive force in her life when she 581 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:11,639 Speaker 1: was making the Speak Now album, and she said it's 582 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 1: very convenient because they all share the same first name. 583 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 1: This is such a good rebrand for Taylor Swift though, 584 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:20,479 Speaker 1: because she has such a reputation as being the ex 585 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:23,240 Speaker 1: that's very jaded and wants to get revenge, and now 586 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:25,479 Speaker 1: she's showing this side of herself where she has this 587 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 1: blossoming relationship with her ex partner and the wife. I 588 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:31,440 Speaker 1: think if the wife wasn't in the picture, it could 589 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 1: all the messaging could all become a bit muddled. But 590 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:36,400 Speaker 1: the fact that the wife is a fan of her 591 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:38,919 Speaker 1: and they're all friends, Yeah, it was pretty beautiful. What 592 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 1: Taylor Lautner said about Taylor Swift as well on stage. 593 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:43,119 Speaker 1: Let's throw to what he said. 594 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 3: Taylor, thank you for having me and all of us. 595 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:51,160 Speaker 3: I just want to say one thing. 596 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:58,359 Speaker 5: I respect you so much, not for the singer you are, 597 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:02,439 Speaker 5: the songwriter, the perform but truly for the human you are. 598 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:08,439 Speaker 2: You are gratious, humble, you are ying, invite honor to 599 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:08,919 Speaker 2: know you. 600 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:10,359 Speaker 3: It's a thing to you. 601 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 2: I think that is so beautiful. 602 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:16,919 Speaker 1: Again, I can't help but feel uncomfortable if that was 603 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 1: my partner talking about his ex on stage in front 604 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 1: of a bunch of People's evident to me that Taylor 605 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 1: Swift friend vibe Taylor law Now. Even listening back to 606 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 1: the lyrics of Back to December, it's clear that he 607 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:31,200 Speaker 1: was so nice to her, but she just didn't see 608 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 1: him in that life. I think maybe it was a 609 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 1: pr relationship, considering that they became such good friends after 610 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 1: this all happened. It's pretty interesting because this has been, 611 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 1: as Sophie said, a really good PR move for Taylor Swift. 612 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:46,160 Speaker 1: I mean, we saw how easily she has shrugged off 613 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 1: the bad press from her brief relationship with Matt Healy. 614 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 2: Now. 615 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,720 Speaker 1: In other Taylor Swift x news, the Internet has gone 616 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 1: into meltdown with reports that Taylor Swift and Harry Styles 617 00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,879 Speaker 1: are set to rekindle their romance almost ten. 618 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,880 Speaker 2: Years after they're split. Do you guys think that there's 619 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 2: any truth to this? 620 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:07,120 Speaker 1: Well, there is a lot of skepticism about these reports. 621 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 1: Many fans, including me, though, are hoping the news is true. 622 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,119 Speaker 1: So Life and Style were the first to report that 623 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:16,159 Speaker 1: Harry Styles apparently still has a thing for Taylor Swift. 624 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:19,720 Speaker 1: The publication interviewed this apparent source, who had a lot 625 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 1: to say on the matter. The source claimed that Harry 626 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 1: still felt a spark with Taylor and that he's never 627 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:28,240 Speaker 1: stopped loving her. They also said the pair were constantly 628 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 1: texting and calling shaha while they're both on tour and 629 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 1: plan to get back together. Now, after reading this full 630 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 1: article and all the quotes from this apparent source, I'm 631 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 1: pretty skeptical whether it's true. The quotes just sounded so 632 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 1: made up and over the top. Also, Life and Style, 633 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 1: they're not the most reputable source. It's an American celebrity 634 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 1: magazine similar to New Idea, and not many other publications 635 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 1: have actually picked up on the story. I think if 636 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 1: it was People magazine, it would be a little bit 637 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 1: more reputable. I think people are just wanting Taylor and 638 00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 1: Harry to get back together, particularly because they're both selling 639 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 1: out these incredible, huge shows. They're the two biggest people 640 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 1: in music at the moment, and their fans would be 641 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 1: pretty similar age and demographic. They would be a fucking 642 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 1: I mean, they already are powerhouses on their own without 643 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 1: being a couple power couple, I don't think it would 644 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 1: be out of the question for this reunion, though they 645 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 1: have appeared to be on very good terms at the 646 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:23,080 Speaker 1: Grammys in twenty twenty one, so Taylor gave Harry a 647 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 1: standing ovation when he won an award, and Harry was 648 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 1: also filmed later visiting Taylor at her table and chatting. 649 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 1: Last year, Harry was also caught on film singing twenty 650 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:35,960 Speaker 1: two to a fan at his concert who was celebrating 651 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 1: the twenty second birthday. And this year at the Grammys, 652 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 1: Taylor stood up and danced when Harry was performing, and 653 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 1: they were also spotted later chatting. Fans got super excited 654 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 1: when it looked like they even fist pumped each other. 655 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,720 Speaker 1: Oh that is quite interesting though, yeah, because I mean, 656 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 1: as you say, both have recently become single and they 657 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 1: have a lot in common at the The source said 658 00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 1: that back when they were dating, they were only eighteen 659 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 1: twenty two, so they were very immature, and now they've 660 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:07,080 Speaker 1: obviously had ten years to mature, they could be perfect 661 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 1: for each other. It's pretty funny on TikTok because a 662 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 1: lot of fans of the couple are coming together and 663 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 1: they used to be known as Hayla fans back in 664 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 1: the day, and one person wrote, Mum and Dad are 665 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 1: back together. What dreams are made of? Another said it 666 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 1: was the perfect easter egg for the re release of 667 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 1: nineteen eighty nine and there's also videos emerging of Taylor 668 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:30,040 Speaker 1: apparently doing Harry's dance at the eras to it, so 669 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 1: we have to keep an eye on this for next year. Now, 670 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 1: I think I could talk about Taylor Swift all day, 671 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,120 Speaker 1: so we're going to end things there. Thank you everyone 672 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:39,360 Speaker 1: for listening to another episode of Outspoken. This podcast was 673 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 1: recorded on the traditional land of the Ghana people of 674 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 1: the Adelaide Planes. We pay respect to Elder's past and present, 675 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:47,920 Speaker 1: and stay tuned because on Wednesday we will be dropping 676 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 1: our second part of our Deep Dive series on Michael Finch.