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Speaker 1: This is Outspoken. The podcast is not afraid to say

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Speaker 1: exactly what you're thinking. Our names are Amy Kate and

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Speaker 1: Sophie Torborth. We're identical triplets, but we often don't have

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Speaker 1: identical opinions, so sometimes things can get heated. Outspoken covers

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Speaker 1: That is so fetched. Thank you, thank you so much

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Speaker 1: for joining us again. Now, how's everyone's weeks been?

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Speaker 2: Gosh?

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Speaker 1: I had a tough realization this week. I went to

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Speaker 1: the hairdresser after six months of not going, and it

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Speaker 1: was at the point where my haircut was nearly over,

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Speaker 3: It really freaked me out.

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Speaker 1: So Amy was actually there and she then sort of

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Speaker 3: Well, you're officially old, k I know.

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Speaker 1: I'm officially old at thirty one with a gray hair. Fortunately,

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Speaker 1: felt better because I saw Steph CLIs Smith was going

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Speaker 1: on that she had a gray hair, so that's very sad. Well,

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Speaker 1: fund it funny because my hair's very naturally dark and

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Speaker 1: Sophie and amya of course bottle blonde. So maybe you

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Speaker 1: guys have had gray hairs, but no one's noticed.

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Speaker 2: To be fair, I think confirmed.

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Speaker 1: I think a gray hair would stand out even from

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Speaker 1: blonde hair. No, because they kind of grow. I think

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Speaker 1: the first one grows in a different direction. Well, you

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Speaker 1: guys had a pretty busy week. I haven't actually seen

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Speaker 1: much of you guys because you've been working on your

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Speaker 1: business relaunch.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So we're finally going to be launching our rebrand, which

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Speaker 1: sof and I've been working on, I think for probably

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Speaker 1: six months, but with all COVID going on, we didn't

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Speaker 1: think it was a suitable time to launch. So we're

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Speaker 1: officially going to be launching this week, and we're so

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Speaker 1: excited to change our name. We had a few people

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Speaker 1: messaging because we spoke about this six months ago, and

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Speaker 1: a few people did message saying, oh, can you give

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Speaker 1: us a hint on the name? Others may not care,

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Speaker 1: but officially our new name is Hula Media, So it's

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Speaker 1: really exciting to just even say that. The funniest thing was, though,

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Speaker 1: we just needed one shot of Sophie and I because

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Speaker 1: we're not really in any of our advertising stuff, and

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Speaker 1: it kind of didn't make any sense because it is

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Speaker 1: our business. So I'm the videographer of our business and

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Speaker 1: I obviously couldn't film Sophie and I. So in came Kate. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I've got a new skill to add to my resume.

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Speaker 1: I was a videographer and also maybe location scouter. Scouter

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Speaker 1: because we went down to Port Adelaide where the thirty

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Speaker 1: sixers normally train and there are some amazing graffiti walls

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Speaker 1: down there. Well, if anyone's interested in checking out our

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Speaker 1: new rebrand video, we'll leave the details in our show

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Speaker 1: notes and let us know how Kate did, because I

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Speaker 1: was quite impressed. Now getting into our first topic, Love

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Speaker 1: Island stars Molly May and Tommy Fury have been blamed

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Speaker 1: for the death of their puppy imported from Russia. Now

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Speaker 1: this story has exploded not only in the UK but

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Speaker 1: in Australia. Kate, for those who don't know, can you

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Speaker 1: tell us who Molly and Tommy are? So? Tommy and

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Speaker 1: Molly are, of course, fan favorites from UK's Love Island

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Speaker 1: the summer edition. Now, Tommy and Molly both turned twenty

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Speaker 1: one this month, and as a birthday present for Molly,

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Speaker 1: Tommy has gone and got Molly a Pomeranium puppy and

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Speaker 1: they called it mister Chai and it is a bloody,

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Speaker 1: Some people suggested they should have either adopted from the

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Speaker 1: Molly said that she couldn't ignore the comments any longer,

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Speaker 1: this breeder. Well, I found it really interesting because not

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Speaker 2: That's just so awful.

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Speaker 1: And even Molly explained that Tommy had been vomiting when

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Speaker 2: He also had no white blood cells.

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Speaker 1: And this was a puppy that they were told was

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Speaker 1: The puppy was also four months old, I think, because

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Speaker 1: So they said that they would never import a dog

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Speaker 1: and Pomeraniums. And you know there have been other Love

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Speaker 1: There was also a Real Housewives of Cheshire star Dawn Ward.

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Speaker 1: Now I don't know who that is either, but I

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Speaker 2: I used to watch that. That was a great show.

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Speaker 1: TV stars have denied that their dogs were imported from

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Speaker 1: Russia despite them coming from the same breeder. Well, as

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Speaker 1: you touched on Kate, the breeder has been broad in

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Speaker 1: another scandal, and that was just in twenty eighteen. She

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Speaker 1: she sold a dog that had a metal splint in

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Speaker 1: the time together during COVID nineteen has potentially.

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Speaker 2: Caused the split.

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Speaker 1: All on the topic of love TV shows, the UK

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Speaker 1: is going to be getting a dose of Australia's Love

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Speaker 1: Island now. I already feel sorry for them because it

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Speaker 1: was devastating news that the UK version had been canceled

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Speaker 1: due to the pandemic, and this is just another blow

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Speaker 1: to them.

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Speaker 3: Really.

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Speaker 1: Can you imagine all the Love Island contestants just rubbing

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Speaker 1: their hands together at the amount of news followers they're

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Speaker 1: going to get from the UK.

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Speaker 2: Do you know what?

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Speaker 1: They might be so desperate to actually just watch Love Island.

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Speaker 1: They might embrace it, but it is just so disappointing

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Speaker 1: a comparison to the UK version. I feel like the

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Speaker 1: low production level is going to be pointed out by

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Speaker 1: the Okay they're probably got.

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Speaker 2: To be shocked.

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Speaker 1: Well, there is good news for Love Island fans because

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Speaker 1: I saw an ad for nine Now and they have

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Speaker 1: actually uploaded every series of Love Island UK and Australia

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Speaker 1: to their channel. Now it's time for Awkward Turtle, which

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Speaker 1: is quickly becoming my favorite segment because we usually get

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Speaker 1: to shame Sophie, but this time we're shaming so Muney

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Speaker 1: that was associated with Sophie, one of Sophe's ex boyfriends,

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Speaker 1: who we hope doesn't listen.

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Speaker 2: To the show.

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Speaker 1: We've run out of awkward turtles that have happened this week,

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Speaker 1: so we've had to cast our net back back further. Now.

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Speaker 1: Amy and I were reminded of this because we were

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Speaker 1: actually driving past the McDonald that he used to frequent

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Speaker 1: near his house, and Sophie, we're quite disturbed that you

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Speaker 1: didn't actually break up with him, because what he used

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Speaker 1: to do was buy McDonald's from literally around the corner

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Speaker 1: from his house, eat it in the car, and then

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Speaker 1: throw the garbage out the window in his own suburb.

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Speaker 1: And he asked you, did he not say to you,

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Speaker 1: what else do you want me to do with it?

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Speaker 3: Or put it in the bin? In your house.

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Speaker 1: I did broach the topic of why are you throwing

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Speaker 1: garbage out your window in your own street? But that

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Speaker 1: comment actually comes from another thing that he used to

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Speaker 1: do in the car, which was pick his nose. Oh,

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Speaker 1: and he would pick his nose and eat it. And

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Speaker 1: when I said what are you doing, he said, what.

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Speaker 2: Do you want me to do? Flick it in the car?

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Speaker 2: That's a disgusting No, I'd rather you eat it.

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Speaker 1: Maybe you don't pick your nose in the car, or

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Speaker 1: if you just get a tissue. Well, it's funny you

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Speaker 1: say that because I knew of someone. Now this is

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Speaker 1: a friend of a friend, and so what this girl

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Speaker 1: used to do was she used to also pick her nose,

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Speaker 1: but instead of a car, Yes, in the car, but

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Speaker 1: instead of actually eating it or putting on a tissue.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not suggesting you should eat your own boogers,

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Speaker 1: but anyway, instead of you know, disposing of it, she

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Speaker 1: had a special area of the car that she wiped it. Oh,

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Speaker 1: reminds me when Sophie was a child and she had

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Speaker 1: a booger wall.

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Speaker 3: I mean she was too.

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Speaker 1: I think that can be forgiven it too. Can I

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Speaker 1: just say back to your ex boyfriend he used to

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Speaker 1: throw garbage out that the god he is probably gonna hate.

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Speaker 3: Me, now, yeah, whatever, I'm sure he's not listening.

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Speaker 1: But okay, So it makes no sense to me that

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Speaker 1: he's willing to throw the garbage out the window, but

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Speaker 1: he couldn't flick his booger. Would wouldn't you flick the

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Speaker 1: booger onto the garbage and then throw.

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Speaker 2: It out the windows?

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Speaker 1: Too much effort for him to just flick it out

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Speaker 1: the window. That is so disgusting. I'm picking his nose

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Speaker 1: in front of you, I know. So that's pretty awkward

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Speaker 1: for everybody. Can I just say that this has also

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Speaker 1: raised a third question?

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Speaker 2: Now I have had this, why did you stay with him?

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Speaker 1: The question, well, he actually broke up with me, so well,

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Speaker 1: the issue that's come up for me is is it booger?

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Speaker 2: Bogie? What is the other one? It's not no boogie.

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Speaker 2: Brandon and his family think it's boogie.

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Speaker 3: It's it's all of them, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: No, it's not boogie.

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Speaker 1: It's both gill No, I have been He and his

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Speaker 1: family are like, what is a bogie? Like they think

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Speaker 1: that that doesn't even exist. Boogie is what you do

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Speaker 1: on the dance for you have a boogie you don't, we'll.

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Speaker 2: Put that into our Outspoken the Podcast Community Great a

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Speaker 2: revolting poll. What do you call the thing? Up your notes?

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Speaker 1: All Right, I think we're going to end on that

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Speaker 1: low point today. Thank you so much for joining us

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