Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the
Speaker 1: hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm
Speaker 1: Amy Torber and coming up on today's show, Sophie Kasha
Speaker 1: throws a serious shade at her ex fiance Matti Garrick,
Speaker 1: the ungrateful influences at this year's Australian Open, and our
Speaker 1: Friday Debrief. The first m Davies Hen's weekend in Bali
Speaker 1: has been making headlines. The bride to be's guest list
Speaker 1: is under the spotlight, as well as the outfit she
Speaker 1: wore to a beach club, Kate, can you tell us more?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 1: The mainstream media have been pretty cruel about m's Hen's looks,
Speaker 1: so for those who haven't seen it, she wore this
Speaker 1: white bando style bra top and had a mini skirt
Speaker 1: made up of chule. It kind of looked like a
Speaker 1: two two and what set people off the most was
Speaker 1: the visible G string that sat just above the skirt,
Speaker 1: which was embroidered with the name Missus G. And all
Speaker 1: I could think about was the Chris Lily character mister G.
Speaker 1: When I saw it, it reminded me more of Kath
Speaker 1: and Kim. Remember Kim used to rock a very visible
Speaker 1: G string. I can see why this G string was
Speaker 1: a bit of a focus in the mainstream media because
Speaker 1: every single Instagram story I saw on Saturday featured it.
Speaker 1: It was either a close up of m twerking and
Speaker 1: the G string in it, or just dancing around. She
Speaker 1: was having the best time. She probably didn't care what
Speaker 1: was being written about her. Well. The Daily Mail run
Speaker 1: with a story asking its readers to weigh in as
Speaker 1: to whether they thought the outfit was appropriate for her
Speaker 1: Hen's party. I mean, they clearly were expecting some pretty
Speaker 1: vile comment trail. There were over two hundred comments on
Speaker 1: the story, and I was actually taken aback about how
Speaker 1: vile they were. I mean, I know the Daily Mail
Speaker 1: is known for that type of commentary, but it was
Speaker 1: next level. I really felt for m Now her outfit
Speaker 1: even made international news, with The Sun running with the
Speaker 1: headline Taki Mum leaves little to the imagination and Hendu
Speaker 1: Brah and skirt duo that even show off her G string.
Speaker 1: I really felt like these media publications weren't asking people
Speaker 1: to weigh in on the outfit. They were more asking
Speaker 1: people to weigh in about how they felt about a
Speaker 1: mum wearing an outfit like, Yes, there was a lot
Speaker 1: of shame involved, and I felt for em because this
Speaker 1: was literally her first trip away from her daughter. It's
Speaker 1: such an exciting time in her life. She's been juggling
Speaker 1: motherhood and also planning her wedding. Why can't she let
Speaker 1: her hair down? And we're a cool outfit? Does being
Speaker 1: a mum mean that you're not allowed to show off
Speaker 1: any skin? You're not allowed to wear something cool? Look,
Speaker 1: it's not really my vibe. I personally wouldn't be rocking
Speaker 1: a g string to my hen's party, but we're all
Speaker 1: very different people. Em used to own her own fashion brand.
Speaker 1: She's very up on the trend. But also this was
Speaker 1: a hen's party in Bali where everyone was wearing bathers.
Speaker 1: It was more of a bayor bottoms than a launder age.
Speaker 1: Like the shaming, that's what I find vile about it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that really grinded my gears. And the thing is, as
Speaker 1: you said, Amy, she used to own her own fashion label.
Speaker 1: She's very up with the trends and back in July
Speaker 1: last year, models were wearing exposed g strings on the
Speaker 1: runway at Paris Fashion Week. It's a trend that's trying
Speaker 1: to make a comeback for quite a couple of years now. Also,
Speaker 1: I feel like, because she is such a massive influence,
Speaker 1: she's trying to make a statement at her Hen's Party.
Speaker 1: She doesn't want to copy what everyone else has done.
Speaker 1: I've never seen this visible G string used as a
Speaker 1: Hen's Party outfit. It's a bit like when we saw
Speaker 1: Tammy trying to have a pink dress and have that moment.
Speaker 1: They're all trying to have a moment and create a trend.
Speaker 1: I wonder if we'll be seeing more visible Hen's Party
Speaker 1: g's dress and somehow don't think it's going to go
Speaker 1: off as much as Tammy's pink dress. I'm actually more
Speaker 1: impressed than and managed to wear this outfit while she
Speaker 1: had her period, because she opened up in her stories
Speaker 1: that when she landed in Balley she got her first
Speaker 1: period post baby. The timing, I mean, doesn't this always happen?
Speaker 1: Your period always rears its head at the most inopportune moment. Yeah,
Speaker 1: isn't it the way? Anytime you have to wear white,
Speaker 1: that's when your period arrives. Now everyone has been really
Speaker 1: invested in EM's Hen's Party guest list, and that is
Speaker 1: because EM's bridesmaid and fellow influence a Lily Brown has
Speaker 1: a long standing feud with EM's other besties Lucy Jackson
Speaker 1: and Nikki Westcott, and seeing this Lily is a bridesmaid,
Speaker 1: you would assume that she would have had a lot
Speaker 1: to do with the plan of the event. So I
Speaker 1: was wondering whether Lucy and nicky'ste might have got lost
Speaker 1: in the mail. Well, some people thought that Lily's invite
Speaker 1: got lost in the mail because in some of the
Speaker 1: early Instagram stories that were coming out from Bali, Lily
Speaker 1: wasn't in any of them, and people were like, where
Speaker 1: is she? But she suddenly popped up the next day
Speaker 1: and Lucy and Nicky were there, So Lily did the
Speaker 1: right thing inviting them. I would have loved to be
Speaker 1: a fly on the wall, particularly, it looked like a
Speaker 1: very boozy weekend and that's usually when fights break out.
Speaker 1: They had those IV drips after the first night to
Speaker 1: help with the hangovers, and they said these are ahead
Speaker 1: of round two. I mean, I would pay a lot
Speaker 1: of money to know what actually happened behind the scenes,
Speaker 1: because surely once alcohols involved, feelings are going to get
Speaker 1: out there A notable absentee was Tammy Hembro So Em
Speaker 1: and Tammy they've been friends for a really long time now,
Speaker 1: and Em attended Tammy's wedding back in November, and after
Speaker 1: Em shared a reel of the event, a follower asked
Speaker 1: why Tammy wasn't there, to which Em respotted she had
Speaker 1: to look after her brothers. I mean, Tammy has done
Speaker 1: a lot of traveling at the end of last year
Speaker 1: and also this year, she probably just couldn't add another
Speaker 1: overseas trip to her list, and she is a newly wed,
Speaker 1: probably wanting to spend a lot of time with Matt.
Speaker 1: It's really hard for me to get my head around
Speaker 1: how quickly this wedding is approaching, because it only feels
Speaker 1: like yesterday when Em got engaged. But that was two
Speaker 1: years ago, back in March twenty twenty three. So EM's
Speaker 1: engagement made big news too because she got engaged under
Speaker 1: the Brooklyn Bridge in New York and everyone just thought
Speaker 1: it was the most esthetic proposal.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: Em also only just gave birth to her first child,
Speaker 1: Aler back in August, so her and job have packed
Speaker 1: a lot in the last two years. I'm so excited
Speaker 1: for the wedding it's on the twenty second of February.
Speaker 1: Do we think from the choice of Hen's party outfit
Speaker 1: that we're going to see something quite outrageous in a
Speaker 1: number of her wedding looks. Yes. I think she'll have
Speaker 1: a similar second or third dress to Tammy Hembrose. You
Speaker 1: know that one she wore later in the night when
Speaker 1: she was cutting the cave. Sure one. Yeah, it kind
Speaker 1: of looked like lingerie. I think something like that. Serena Williams. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't think she plays Serena Waitness. Is that true,
Speaker 1: Serena Williams, Yes, Serena. A number of influencers have been
Speaker 1: slammed for their lack of tennis knowledge and labeled ungrateful
Speaker 1: after being gifted free airfares and prime seats to the
Speaker 1: Australian Open by big name brands. One influencer was caught
Speaker 1: on camera saying she predicted Sabrina Williams could win this
Speaker 1: year's Open, whilst Tammy Hembro told her snapchat followers.
Speaker 3: This heading to the Australina ben watch some tennis, I
Speaker 3: definitely won't be watching. No, I'll be.
Speaker 1: I'm not like.
Speaker 3: Into the tennis so much when I'm there. Yeah, like
Speaker 3: I'll watch to like fit in, to look like I've belong.
Speaker 1: This is a very privileged comment. I'll get into it
Speaker 1: whilst I'm there. I'll get into it whilst I have
Speaker 1: the best seats in the house. Well, to add insult
Speaker 1: to injury, Matt and Tammy seats looked like they were
Speaker 1: literally sitting on center core and as a tennis fan,
Speaker 1: I couldn't help but feel so jealous. It does leave
Speaker 1: a bit of a bad taste in your mouth. The
Speaker 1: Sabrina Williams comment really throws me because obviously that influencer
Speaker 1: was referring to Serena Williams, but she's been retired for
Speaker 1: a couple of years now, so who was she actually referring.
Speaker 1: I think she might have been trying to say Seblenka,
Speaker 1: which is one of the women who is set to
Speaker 1: take out this year's title, who won last year's Australian Open. Well,
Speaker 1: just back to Tammy's commentary, she has been slammed by
Speaker 1: tennis fans. One caught her out online saying I'm so
Speaker 1: sick of brand sending influencers who don't watch tennis. Another wrote,
Speaker 1: I get the influencers are there to promote and do
Speaker 1: a job, but it's such a waste of space slash
Speaker 1: tickets to send people who don't watch or pretend to
Speaker 1: like tennis. I've really noticed in the past couple of
Speaker 1: years that the Australian Open has had this transformation. It's
Speaker 1: become a cool girl event. Everyone wants to be seen
Speaker 1: at it, and I think it has a lot to
Speaker 1: do with the fact that horse racing is very on
Speaker 1: the nose. That used to be an event where you
Speaker 1: could get dressed up, you could show off your outfits,
Speaker 1: and now that's what the Australian Open and also f
Speaker 1: One has become. Yeah, and back when horse racing was
Speaker 1: really popular, the high profile of people going weren't there
Speaker 1: to see the horse racing. They were there to socialize
Speaker 1: and party in the marquees. And that's the thing where
Speaker 1: the Australian Open. They have created such an amazing event
Speaker 1: that there's a huge fan village there. Now you can eat,
Speaker 1: you can drink there, there's so many things to do
Speaker 1: that you don't actually even have to watch the tennis.
Speaker 1: You can just be a part of the atmosphere. And
Speaker 1: I get the vibe that a lot of influencers are
Speaker 1: spending more time taking photos of them with the core
Speaker 1: in the background that they're actually spending watching the game.
Speaker 1: Whoever's doing the marketing and the brand partnerships at the
Speaker 1: Australian Open needs to be commended because over the last
Speaker 1: couple of years we have seen it go from strength
Speaker 1: to strength. There are a lot of high profile brands
Speaker 1: that you wouldn't normally associate with the tennis getting on board,
Speaker 1: and also a lot of corporate tickets being sold. So
Speaker 1: brands like White Fox Boutique, they're jumping on board and
Speaker 1: buying boxes at the tennis and hosting influences a bit
Speaker 1: like we've seen at concerts. I've also noticed that a
Speaker 1: lot of these clothing brands, like White Fox and Revenue,
Speaker 1: they have incorporated tennis care into their summer launchers as well,
Speaker 1: so they understand the power that the Australian Open has
Speaker 1: and that people want to look the part when they're
Speaker 1: going there. There's been a lot of eyes on the
Speaker 1: Ralph Laren influencer activation. So Ralph Lauren are the Australian
Speaker 1: Open's official clothing partner this year, they have been for
Speaker 1: the last four years and they have put on a
Speaker 1: massive influencer trips, so they've been flying out a lot
Speaker 1: of influencers and putting them up in hotels and giving
Speaker 1: them a real luxurious experience. Of course, they're also getting
Speaker 1: prime seats to the tennis. So some of the big
Speaker 1: name influencers in attendance at the Ralph Lauren event have
Speaker 1: been Sammy Robinson, Millie Ford, Sammy Guggenheimer, Rebecca Harding, and
Speaker 1: Sophia Beg. Morgan Waterhouse also got an invite. I'm not
Speaker 1: quite sure how he managed to get a ticket because
Speaker 1: he really isn't in the same playing field as a
Speaker 1: number of those influencers. It's quite interesting because in one
Speaker 1: YouTube video and influencer spoke about how Ralph Lauren had
Speaker 1: brought in an expert to bring their guests up to
Speaker 1: speed on the rules of tennis. Let's have a listen
Speaker 1: to what we said.
Speaker 4: Once we got there, we headed into the Polo Ralphloranz suite.
Speaker 4: They had cocktails and cannon piece for us, and we
Speaker 4: just chilled and talked and got picks, and then Ava
Speaker 4: was here teaching us a bit about the tennis because
Speaker 4: we didn't really know what was going on, and then
Speaker 4: we headed down into the court. This was my first
Speaker 4: time at the Ausuelian Open, and honestly, I'm in tennis
Speaker 4: going out.
Speaker 1: There's also been a number of influencers called out for
Speaker 1: talking during games, and for anyone who is familiar with tennis,
Speaker 1: it is a game of etiquette. You have to be
Speaker 1: quiet during the points and the players will be quite
Speaker 1: vocal if people aren't being quiet and never watching a
Speaker 1: number of games where there'd be some fans who were
Speaker 1: cheering during points and the tennis players would get really
Speaker 1: agitated and speak to the umpire because it's just against
Speaker 1: the rules. You can't have people barracking or speaking during points.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, sports presenter and producer Michelle Escobar into the debate
Speaker 1: on TikTok, saying this.
Speaker 5: I'm talking about the influencers who are getting paid by brands,
Speaker 5: who are working with brands, who are getting very privileged
Speaker 5: positions and freebiz, and are also working at the Australian
Speaker 5: Open while not even knowing the basic rules of tennis. Now,
Speaker 5: up until a few years ago, you had to work
Speaker 5: very very hard to be able to break into the
Speaker 5: media landscape, but now it just seems like if you
Speaker 5: have a lot of followers, you can jump the queue.
Speaker 5: The problem with that is that you're just hiring people
Speaker 5: based on numbers and not knowledge, so they don't actually
Speaker 5: know what they're talking about.
Speaker 1: Michelle went on to say that there were a number
Speaker 1: of sports content creators doing really good work at the
Speaker 1: Australian Open who have a genuine passionate interest for the game,
Speaker 1: and she hoped that they got more opportunities. I can
Speaker 1: totally see where Michelle is coming from, because it is
Speaker 1: utterly frustrating as a tennis lover to see people there
Speaker 1: who don't necessarily appreciate it and who appear to be
Speaker 1: taking the piss and making a bit of a mockery
Speaker 1: of such a beautiful game. But we've got to look
Speaker 1: at it from a marketing perspective and which brands are
Speaker 1: inviting which influencers. It doesn't really make sense for White
Speaker 1: Fox boutique to invite a sports content creator. They want
Speaker 1: to invite a high profile influencer who's going to look
Speaker 1: good in the clothes, who's going to take lots of
Speaker 1: photos and be able to provide that content they want afterwards.
Speaker 1: It's also helping open up the sport to a new
Speaker 1: category of people who haven't watched tennis before. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: all about getting the Australian Open brand and the game
Speaker 1: of tennis out to as many eyeballs as possible, and
Speaker 1: that's what's happening when you invite all of these influencers.
Speaker 1: I think it also just comes down to the individual
Speaker 1: responsibility of the influencer to not act like a jerk
Speaker 1: and have respect for the event that they've been invited to. Hopefully,
Speaker 1: for some influencers this might have kicked off their love
Speaker 1: of the sport now yeah, And I think it just
Speaker 1: shows what a great job the Australian Opens marketing team
Speaker 1: have done to actually put the event on such a pedestal.
Speaker 1: The people are jealous that influence as are getting free
Speaker 1: tickets because it's not a new thing. Influence has are
Speaker 1: gifted free tickets to concerts, so many other sporting events.
Speaker 1: But it's really put people's noses out of joint because
Speaker 1: they want to be there so much. So we've got
Speaker 1: to remember that this has actually grown from just being
Speaker 1: a sporting event. As we've discussed, there's a real festival
Speaker 1: vibe around this. There's pop up bars, there's a lot
Speaker 1: of brands they're trying to sell products, so that is
Speaker 1: also why people are reaching out to lifestyle influencers and
Speaker 1: not just sporting figures.
Speaker 6: The funny thing about all of this is poor Mads.
Speaker 6: She didn't sign up for this. She got really skinny,
Speaker 6: really fit, sexy mama when we started dating.
Speaker 7: Now you've got this.
Speaker 6: So beautiful.
Speaker 1: Wiggle pajama. Entrepreneur Sophie Keisha has thrown serious shade at
Speaker 1: her expiance Maddi Garrick during a lengthy Q and A
Speaker 1: with her new girlfriend, Maddie Presspackis. Sophie, who is just
Speaker 1: weeks away from giving birth, couldn't resist referring to her
Speaker 1: ex as a cheetah and said she's finally found someone
Speaker 1: who gets on with her family. So the whole idea
Speaker 1: of this Q and A was for followers to get
Speaker 1: to know her new girlfriend. And that's why I think
Speaker 1: it was extra awkward that these shots were being fired
Speaker 1: in saying that though I was really invested in this
Speaker 1: Q and A because I've been really curious to see
Speaker 1: the dynamic between Sophie and her new girlfriend. There is
Speaker 1: a ten year age gap, so I wanted to see
Speaker 1: what they're actually like behind closed doors, and we were
Speaker 1: granted a half an hour glimpse into their lives. So
Speaker 1: Sophie explained that her kids were in bed early for once,
Speaker 1: so it was a great opportunity for her followers to
Speaker 1: get to know Maddie, who she referred to as the
Speaker 1: greatest human in the world. Big title now. She went
Speaker 1: public about her relationship with the AFLW player back in
Speaker 1: November in an exclusive interview with Stella magazine where she
Speaker 1: spoke about her pregnancy and love life. It was a
Speaker 1: really casual Q and A because both of the women
Speaker 1: were dressed in their pjs, Keisha branded, of course, and
Speaker 1: Sophie was enjoying cheesecake from Uber Eat. I think that's
Speaker 1: one of her pregnancy cravings. I was gonna say, tell
Speaker 1: me you're pregnant without telling me you're pregnant. It sounds delightful.
Speaker 1: She did add a disclaimer in the question box, saying
Speaker 1: that there was a no dickhead policy and people would
Speaker 1: be blocked immediately if they crossed the line with their questions. Now,
Speaker 1: this Q and A did spark a lot of commentary
Speaker 1: about Sophie and Maddie's dynamic, and I had to agree
Speaker 1: with a few comments in our Facebook community. Our times,
Speaker 1: it did feel like Sophie was almost parenting Maddie and
Speaker 1: coaching her to give her the right answer. So one
Speaker 1: of our listeners joke that they were worried Maddie would
Speaker 1: get a question wrong and get told off. It did
Speaker 1: feel like that. I mean, as I said, there is
Speaker 1: a ten year age gap between the couple, Maddie's only
Speaker 1: twenty four, and I have to say, as a side note,
Speaker 1: she seemed really sweet and like a nice person. She
Speaker 1: seemed to answer every question almost like she was being
Speaker 1: interviewed on the footy field. She was very diplomatic and
Speaker 1: sort of matter of fact about it. You could tell
Speaker 1: that she was really desperate and under pressure to say
Speaker 1: the right thing as well, because Sophie kept glaring at
Speaker 1: her and sort of being like yeah, So not only
Speaker 1: was she trying to impress Sophie's followers, but also Sophie. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Now there was a question about the age gap and
Speaker 1: whether it felt loud at times. This is what Maddie said.
Speaker 2: No. Like at the start, honestly, I was a bit like, well,
Speaker 2: I would didn't plan to have two kids so at
Speaker 2: my age. But no, I feel like soph and I
Speaker 2: we like the same things, we have the same interests,
Speaker 2: we bond over a lot of the same things.
Speaker 7: So, yeah, I feel like you are a much more
Speaker 7: mature person of your age then I know than I've
Speaker 7: ever met, and I feel like I'm a young soul.
Speaker 1: I meet you halfway.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we definitely meet halfway.
Speaker 1: As someone who has a history of dating younger guys,
Speaker 1: I could recognize that Sophie was trying to say that
Speaker 1: thing that we all say where you're like, oh, no,
Speaker 1: this person I'm dating is very mature for their age.
Speaker 3: It's soul.
Speaker 1: Yeah, whether it's true or not. And I think it's
Speaker 1: what you tell yourself until you break up with them,
Speaker 1: and then you tell everyone, oh, they were so immature. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she was really trying to get that message across. She
Speaker 1: said that Maddie was mature beyond her years, and she
Speaker 1: had her life together. She owns her own home, her
Speaker 1: own car, and has her finances well in order. Again,
Speaker 1: it almost felt like she was talking about her own child,
Speaker 1: like they take the bin out at night time, they
Speaker 1: mow the lawn, they walk the dog like that sort
Speaker 1: of vibe. Well, the commentary around finances is interesting because
Speaker 1: I think Sophie is trying to extinguish any negative commentary
Speaker 1: that might come up about Maddie trying to be a
Speaker 1: gold digger. Yeah, I think so too. The only time
Speaker 1: that Sophie admitted to noticing the age gap is when
Speaker 1: they're having a sing along in the car together and
Speaker 1: Maddie doesn't know some of the songs. Yeah, that really
Speaker 1: makes you feel old. We have a couple of friends
Speaker 1: who are six or seven years younger than us and
Speaker 1: they didn't know her hands and was and I was like,
Speaker 1: oh my god. Now. Throughout this Q and A as
Speaker 1: we touched on, Sophie threw a lot of shade at
Speaker 1: her ex fiance, Maddie Garrick, and I hope that this
Speaker 1: segment doesn't get too confusing because Sophie's X does have,
Speaker 1: of course the same name as a new girlfriend, and
Speaker 1: then the ex before was also an AFLW players. There's
Speaker 1: a lot of crossover with these partners, as we say
Speaker 1: it all the time. But she's obviously got a time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: definitely now. Sophie dramatically called off her engagement to Mattie
Speaker 1: Garrick in twenty twenty two. God was it twenty twenty two,
Speaker 1: And that was shortly after flying to Italy, where Maddie
Speaker 1: was playing basketball and at the time Sophie made it
Speaker 1: very clear that she had been cheated on, allegedly. Allegedly. Now,
Speaker 1: the first potshot that was herld was Sophie admitting that
Speaker 1: she's the one who holds a lot of insecurities about
Speaker 1: the age gap in her relationship with Mattie press Packers,
Speaker 1: and that is due to the way she was treated
Speaker 1: by Mattie Garrick. Here's what she said on that.
Speaker 7: I will say I'm the one with the insecurities about
Speaker 7: the age gap.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like I don't know what's say. No,
Speaker 2: I I just I don't see the difference between the
Speaker 2: age but I see sinsecurities and yeah, I always just
Speaker 2: say that you've got nothing to worry about. Yeah, her,
Speaker 2: but before where lives people, and that's all the matters.
Speaker 2: We bond over good things and yeah, we've got our
Speaker 2: life set out together, so that's good.
Speaker 7: We've got big plans.
Speaker 8: Baby.
Speaker 1: I wonder how Maddie Presspackers felt about these comments being
Speaker 1: thrown in when this is a Q and A where
Speaker 1: we're supposed to be getting to know her, because it
Speaker 1: kind of makes Sophie sound like she's hung up on
Speaker 1: Maddie Garrick. And it's still very hurt by her actions. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and when someone talks badly about their ex it's usually
Speaker 1: a bit of a red flag because you're like, Oh,
Speaker 1: if we were to break up, is this how you're
Speaker 1: going to talk about me?
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 1: Sophie also went on further to say that her kids
Speaker 1: have been hurt in the past by her exes, and
Speaker 1: she didn't enter into a relationship with Mattie two point
Speaker 1: zero until her son Bobby gave her permission. She also
Speaker 1: said that she's finally found someone that gets along with
Speaker 1: her family. I'm not sure if she meant her immediate
Speaker 1: family as in Jared and the kids, or if she
Speaker 1: met her extended family, because it's very clear that Maddi
Speaker 1: Press Packers has made a huge effort with Sophie's kids.
Speaker 1: She sounds like she genuinely loves them and has a
Speaker 1: really great bond with them, which is very sweet. Oh,
Speaker 1: it's lovely to see and it seems very genuine. In
Speaker 1: terms of Sophie's extended family, there have been a lot
Speaker 1: of question marks about how her relationship is with them,
Speaker 1: particularly her sister who she was on survival with. There's
Speaker 1: been rumors that there's a feud between them. I wonder
Speaker 1: if that had anything to do with Matti Garrick. It
Speaker 1: did seem like there was a bit of a tension
Speaker 1: with one family member that they were referring to in
Speaker 1: this Q and A. This Q and A also revealed
Speaker 1: that Sophie and Matti press Packers first hooked up just
Speaker 1: three weeks after she called off her engagement to Maddie Garrick.
Speaker 1: So the couple first met in twenty twenty two at
Speaker 1: Electric Nightclub on Chapel Street at three am, and by
Speaker 1: three thirty am they were sharing their first kiss.
Speaker 8: I'll throw it back to twenty twenty two. I had
Speaker 8: returned from a unfortunate overseas trip and I it was
Speaker 8: like three weeks later, I think me and Kateland shout
Speaker 8: out to Kateland. We had this most random, spontaneous day
Speaker 8: where we like just went for lunch during the day
Speaker 8: and then somehow we were at a nightclub at three
Speaker 8: o'clock in the morning and saw this little smile looking
Speaker 8: back at me and the bar and within five minutes
Speaker 8: I said, I'm gonna.
Speaker 7: Kiss you, and I did so.
Speaker 8: I made the first move many moons ago.
Speaker 6: I kiss you the second time.
Speaker 8: All right, who made the first Oh yeah.
Speaker 1: That really made it sound like a rebound, but they
Speaker 1: didn't actually start up a relationship for quite some time.
Speaker 1: Following the kids. They were friends for about a year
Speaker 1: before anything happened. Sophie also dated Sophie vander Hoove in between.
Speaker 1: Well it's with the names, like, don't date anyone with
Speaker 1: your name or the name of your eggs now. Further
Speaker 1: shade was thrown at Maddie Garreic when Sophie answered if
Speaker 1: she'd found the one, Here's what she said.
Speaker 7: Is she the one?
Speaker 1: You both truly look happy?
Speaker 2: You know what?
Speaker 8: I fucking hope.
Speaker 7: So, because I'm a little bit sick and tired.
Speaker 2: Of this, I think I think, no, No, I know
Speaker 2: she's the one. I think we've definitely found our person
Speaker 2: in each other.
Speaker 7: Everyone's screenworld called that place.
Speaker 8: Thanks no cheat to cheatah, Pumpkin Eita here cheater Cheatah.
Speaker 7: No, you're not.
Speaker 1: God, that is so awkward. I actually really feel for
Speaker 1: Maddie press Packers because you get a sense to what
Speaker 1: it must be like behind the scenes between them, that
Speaker 1: she must always be having to reassure Sophie that she's
Speaker 1: not doing anything wrong, but she's not acting like her ex.
Speaker 1: I think she must be working in overtime to prove
Speaker 1: that she's nothing like Maddie Garrick. And the thing is,
Speaker 1: you would have to be very trusting if your girlfriend
Speaker 1: played afl W because they're often on the road traveling,
Speaker 1: they're surrounded by women their own age of the same
Speaker 1: interests as them, and maybe that's where some of Sophie's
Speaker 1: insecurities are coming in, particularly if she was cheated on
Speaker 1: when Maddie was away. Well my basketball, yeah, Well, Maddie
Speaker 1: Press Packers. She plays for Essendon, doesn't she and Sophie
Speaker 1: bat who will also played for Essendon, So when you're
Speaker 1: ex as a teammates, it's very awkward. Questions then turned
Speaker 1: to Sophie's pregnancy and whether the couple were having this
Speaker 1: baby together or if Maddie was part of the decision
Speaker 1: making process, and Maddie was quite honest and said that
Speaker 1: because they started out their relationship as just friends, she
Speaker 1: always knew that Sophie planned to have another baby, and
Speaker 1: she said that when she finally fell in love with Sophie,
Speaker 1: Sophie really tried to push her away because the baby
Speaker 1: was her number one priority, understandably, but Mattie said it
Speaker 1: didn't affect things on her end, and that because she
Speaker 1: loves Sophie's kids, Bobby and Floss, she knows that she's
Speaker 1: going to love this third baby just as much. It
Speaker 1: seems like a very mature perspective. It is mature, and
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to take away at all from what
Speaker 1: she's saying, but her newborn is very different to a
Speaker 1: six and ten year old or however old her kids are.
Speaker 1: And I think with Mattie only being twenty four, she
Speaker 1: might be going into this a little bit blind. I
Speaker 1: think Sophie could read the naivety her tone, and she
Speaker 1: could probably see what people were thinking, so she kept saying,
Speaker 1: how do you actually feel about the newborn stage? Though, Maddie.
Speaker 1: Maddie said this, and what.
Speaker 7: About the newborn stage, sweetheart? Well, I suppose you just
Speaker 7: don't know what to expect. So she's going to be great.
Speaker 2: Starting from the start.
Speaker 1: Learn how to change it, nappy.
Speaker 7: That's why she doesn't live here, so she can go
Speaker 7: home whenever she wants. Yeah, I've got to go home
Speaker 7: and clean up.
Speaker 2: Sorry.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's another interesting element because Maddie and Sophie don't
Speaker 1: currently live together and they're not planning on moving in
Speaker 1: together when this baby is born. I think that's a
Speaker 1: very clever idea, because this is such a fresh relationship
Speaker 1: and it's a lot to expect of a new partner,
Speaker 1: especially someone who's so young. If this wasn't their decision,
Speaker 1: I think that's going to cause a lot of arguments though,
Speaker 1: because even though they're saying that they're not bringing up
Speaker 1: this baby together, you'd be pretty resentful if you haven't
Speaker 1: slept at all and you're dealing with a crying baby
Speaker 1: and then you're part And I was like, all right, well,
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna pop home and get a good night
Speaker 1: in sleep. Like, I can see that this is going
Speaker 1: to be quite difficult for them to navigate, but then again,
Speaker 1: it will be important for Maddie to get a good
Speaker 1: night's sleep if she's an athlete and she needs to
Speaker 1: be in tip top shape for her game. Again, you
Speaker 1: can see how this works on paper, but not in
Speaker 1: the real world. Yeah, but the afl W season will
Speaker 1: probably be over by the time this baby's too. True.
Speaker 1: What is also interesting is they're planning on taking a
Speaker 1: family vacation to London when the baby is born. Will
Speaker 1: surprised me. What is people traveling with a newborn. I mean,
Speaker 1: I know everyone's experiences are different, but my son was
Speaker 1: a very good sleeper. I've been very lucky with the
Speaker 1: way he slept and has been going. But I still
Speaker 1: couldn't think of anything worse than taking him on a
Speaker 1: long haul flight. Yeah. Well, let's listen to what Sophie
Speaker 1: and Maddie said about this trip.
Speaker 6: Just having fun, just having fun with us and two
Speaker 6: kids and a newborn. Yeah, she doesn't know what she's
Speaker 6: in for, guys, she has no idea.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know if I'm more scared for the
Speaker 2: plane ride or.
Speaker 1: But no looking forward to it. I'll be very interested
Speaker 1: to follow on and see how this goes. Hopefully it
Speaker 1: runs a bit smoother than we think it's going to run. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 1: there was a question asking whether Maddie will be called
Speaker 1: mum as well, and Sophie confirmed that Maddie will just
Speaker 1: be called Mad's bind the baby. She did joke that
Speaker 1: she'd be called Papa instead of mum. You can see
Speaker 1: that Sophie is very keen to settle down, and there
Speaker 1: was a question that she shared that said, I cannot
Speaker 1: wait for Maddie to propose his what Maddie's reaction was
Speaker 1: one day, what are you laughing at?
Speaker 2: One day any ring suggestions?
Speaker 1: Nah ah no, yeah, no yet Sophie Cash was really
Speaker 1: opening herself up to commentary, isn't she. And the thing
Speaker 1: that just came across in this whole Q and A
Speaker 1: was just how young Maddie is like she again, can't
Speaker 1: fault the girl sounds like an absolute sweetheart, but maybe
Speaker 1: a bit naive. Now Sophie, who is only a couple
Speaker 1: of weeks from giving birth, has opened up more about
Speaker 1: the relaunch of her Young Mummy blog, so she did
Speaker 1: reveal in Estella interview that she was getting back onto it.
Speaker 1: This is a decade later, which makes it feel really
Speaker 1: old because when I was working at the Thunderbirds, the
Speaker 1: netball team, I remember that we reached out to her
Speaker 1: and gave her free tickets to come along to a
Speaker 1: game because she loves netball. She was obviously living in
Speaker 1: South Australia at the time too, so a lot's changed
Speaker 1: for her. When she said it was launching again, I
Speaker 1: didn't think that it would launch in a blog format
Speaker 1: because who reads blogs. Now this is going to be
Speaker 1: featured on her Casha Pajama website, so that's where you
Speaker 1: can find the blog. But I originally thought, because she
Speaker 1: launched a new YouTube channel when she announced her pregnancy,
Speaker 1: that the Young Mummy might take the new format of
Speaker 1: daily vlogs. Well, not daily blogs, weekly vlogs. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: TikTok vlogging. I'm surprised that a media company like Mamma
Speaker 1: Mia hasn't picked up as a regular feature on their website.
Speaker 1: Maybe so if he thinks financially, she's better off putting
Speaker 1: on her own website where she can get advertisers and
Speaker 1: get traction on there and then also in turn get
Speaker 1: people to buy her pajamas. See, I reckon she'd be
Speaker 1: better off actually repackaging it as a podcast. I would
Speaker 1: definitely be keen to listen to it. I think that
Speaker 1: she's going to be pretty open and honest on there,
Speaker 1: and it will be interesting for her to compare things
Speaker 1: now to how they were a decade ago. She already
Speaker 1: said that there's so many new apps and products on
Speaker 1: the market, and she did joke that she should call
Speaker 1: it the middle Aged Mummy, which isn't true. She's only
Speaker 1: thirty four. Hey hey, hey, we're actually a year or
Speaker 1: two older than her, so none of that. Maybe it
Speaker 1: could be called the geriatric mum because trick mom. After
Speaker 1: thirty five, I have not had anyone refer to me
Speaker 1: medically as a geriatric mummy. I think they've got rid
Speaker 1: of that term. Yeah. I wasn't referred to that, but
Speaker 1: I was thirty four. No, I was thirty five when
Speaker 1: I gave birth. Yeah, I was waiting for it. But
Speaker 1: I think that now a lot of women are having
Speaker 1: children later that they're like, this doesn't really seem to
Speaker 1: apply well. With pregnancy rage being a real thing, I
Speaker 1: don't think anyone would have the balls to go a
Speaker 1: woman geriatric. Let's get into our Friday debrief and for
Speaker 1: the OG listeners who can actually tell our voices apart,
Speaker 1: you will have noticed that Amy's has dropped out. She
Speaker 1: had to head off to a meeting. If you can
Speaker 1: read that code, read between the lines. So I'm going
Speaker 1: to jump in with a high of the week for me. So,
Speaker 1: it was my second wedding anniversary on Tuesday, which is wild.
Speaker 1: How was that two years ago? It actually freaks me out.
Speaker 1: I can't believe it. It was such a good day and
Speaker 1: I'm at a point where I'm like, oh, I feel
Speaker 1: like I really want to watch the video back in
Speaker 1: full because the year after you kind of get it
Speaker 1: six months after the wedding anyway, and you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: I feel like I've already seen this, but it's sort
Speaker 1: of like fresh again. So we were going to watch
Speaker 1: on our wedding anniversary, but Reese fell asleep watching suits.
Speaker 1: Very romantic evening, but it was a lovely day, I mean,
Speaker 1: now that we have Jack. We actually didn't think ahead
Speaker 1: of time to book in a babysitter, so we just
Speaker 1: had takeaway on the couch watching suits. But it was
Speaker 1: absolutely perfect.
Speaker 2: See.
Speaker 1: I got a lot of flak for celebrating the anniversary
Speaker 1: of my first date with my husband, which was eight
Speaker 1: years since our first date. You paid the shit out
Speaker 1: of me on the podcast for it. Our night didn't
Speaker 1: end romantically at all because we went to a little
Speaker 1: tie place around the corner from us and a nice place.
Speaker 1: Look at that all the time. It's ogent laugh. But
Speaker 1: poor Brownon ended up getting food poisoning. So he woke
Speaker 1: up at like five o'clock in the morning and he's like,
Speaker 1: I think I'm going to be sick, and I was like,
Speaker 1: in my pregnancy rage, Oh shut up, you don't really
Speaker 1: mean it. Anyway, fucking five seconds later. Anyway, back to
Speaker 1: my anniversary. As I said, it was pretty low key,
Speaker 1: but I had a really nice day because Reese managed
Speaker 1: to surprise me twice. So the night before he came
Speaker 1: home from work with this big, beautiful bunch of flowers
Speaker 1: and he said, I'm so sorry your present hasn't arrived
Speaker 1: in time. And for the second wedding anniversary, the theme
Speaker 1: is caution. So I was really racking my brains, like
Speaker 1: I don't know what to get because that's a start,
Speaker 1: see yeah, but you kind of want to get some
Speaker 1: personalized A lot of the personalized stuff was a bit
Speaker 1: now anyway, so I was like, oh gosh, this is
Speaker 1: you know, you could have just got me flowers. This
Speaker 1: is They're beautiful. The next day, at around twelve o'clock,
Speaker 1: I hear this knock on the door and I was like,
Speaker 1: oh my god. So I've got the two dogs at
Speaker 1: the door, I've got Jack. And I opened the door
Speaker 1: and there's this man standing there. It almost looked like
Speaker 1: that show First Day, with a big bunch of twelve
Speaker 1: red roses and a little bag and inside the bag
Speaker 1: was a Teddy Bear And I said, Kate Torbert and
Speaker 1: I'm like what because normally Reese would say Kate Turner
Speaker 1: and I was like, who is this from? I was like,
Speaker 1: am I being trolled? And then I was like, well,
Speaker 1: it looks like a Valentine's Day present and didn't you think, oh,
Speaker 1: this is a bit early? Well I noticed it was
Speaker 1: sept from the same floorist that Reesa got the other
Speaker 1: flowers from, and I was like, oh my god. He
Speaker 1: must have put in an order for Valentine's Day and
Speaker 1: it's arrived like today, like there must have been some miscommunication.
Speaker 1: I was like, well, this is so embarrassed' a good
Speaker 1: way to get him cheaper, don't sit on Valentine's Day. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So I rang him and I'm like, what's going on.
Speaker 1: He's like, no, no, there they are from me. I
Speaker 1: just wanted to send you a second bunch to surprise you.
Speaker 1: And I was like, why the different name. I think
Speaker 1: you just forgot to put Turner. And then a couple
Speaker 1: of hours later there was another knock on the door
Speaker 1: and I opened the door and there was a third
Speaker 1: bunch of flowers from him, and I'm like, what is
Speaker 1: going on? This is not clever because you're having to
Speaker 1: pay for two lots of delivery and they were from
Speaker 1: a different company. Anyway, why did he send three bunch
Speaker 1: of flowers? I'm still confused. So he said the first
Speaker 1: was to celebrate our first year of marriage, the second
Speaker 1: was to celebrate the second year, and the third was
Speaker 1: for the year ahead. What Yeah, and it was more
Speaker 1: sense to me for two years of marriage. Well, I'm
Speaker 1: not complaining that. Was this a mistake? No, it wasn't.
Speaker 1: Ask him tonight, I will. I loved it though. I
Speaker 1: love getting flowers. What have you got for us? I
Speaker 1: really feel like the karma gods are on to me
Speaker 1: because we did a segment last year about m Davies
Speaker 1: trying to sell a white couch that had stains all
Speaker 1: over it. It's funny you say that, because when I
Speaker 1: was doing some research into m dav's Hen's party for
Speaker 1: this episode today, I came across an article Perth Now
Speaker 1: wrote about our coverage of said couch. Yeah, and we
Speaker 1: were having a bit of a laugh because this couch
Speaker 1: was beyond filthy. It looked absolutely terrible. I mean, at
Speaker 1: least she was honest in the Facebook advert about it. Anyway,
Speaker 1: Brandon and I we want to get a bigger couch
Speaker 1: we now that we're having a family, but we need
Speaker 1: a corner couch. We currently have a three seater couch
Speaker 1: and we are absolutely squished on it. As the subs
Speaker 1: would know, you are trying to make your house into
Speaker 1: a hotel. Not really, I just want to make it
Speaker 1: a nice place to be. Maybe the use of the
Speaker 1: word hotel was wrong, but anyway, we have changed the
Speaker 1: configuration of our room. We ended up blocking off a
Speaker 1: wall like putting jip rock up. We had these two
Speaker 1: ugly arches, so we now have our TV where the
Speaker 1: archers used to be, and the room feels a lot bigger.
Speaker 1: So we needed a bigger couch. And basically, and every
Speaker 1: time I tried to take a picture of this old couch,
Speaker 1: it looked absolutely filthy. I don't know if it's because
Speaker 1: we moved where it was sitting and there was different lines. Well,
Speaker 1: it just looked filthy the more we looked at it.
Speaker 1: But I couldn't take a new photo of it. So
Speaker 1: I found a photo that I took of when we
Speaker 1: bought it. Oh, that's a little bit different. And I
Speaker 1: also found photos of what it looked like from where
Speaker 1: we bought it. So we got it from James lane. Anyway,
Speaker 1: we had quite a few people inquire about it, and
Speaker 1: someone wanted to come and look at it, and we thought, fuck, like,
Speaker 1: we can't leave it how it is. So we have
Speaker 1: spent hours and hours and hours cleaning this couch. We
Speaker 1: had one of those portable upholstery cleaners. I've got one
Speaker 1: of those. It took so long, and because I was
Speaker 1: so nervous, because I didn't want to take the covers
Speaker 1: off and wash them, because I've read so many websites
Speaker 1: saying that it shrinks them or they it could ball
Speaker 1: up like blazers. But anyway, we decided that this upholstery
Speaker 1: cleaner was doing nothing. It looked so streaking and dirty.
Speaker 1: So at twelve o'clock the other night, we were laughing
Speaker 1: so much. We're like, fuck, we've got to do something.
Speaker 1: It's going to drive overnight. So we grabbed all of
Speaker 1: the pillowcases off, We filled up the bath with water,
Speaker 1: we chucked in laundry detergent, and we were literally scrubbing them.
Speaker 1: We said out next one they but probably thinks we're
Speaker 1: a murderer cleaning this couch off. And you said that.
Speaker 1: I was like texting you and you suddenly went mia
Speaker 1: and I'm like, where are you Why are you ignoring me?
Speaker 1: And You're like, we're cleaning the couch, and I was like,
Speaker 1: how long does it take? Well, the next day, Brandon
Speaker 1: still was not happy with some of these cushions that
Speaker 1: an hour and a half before the people were set
Speaker 1: to come and look at it. He's like, let's put
Speaker 1: these two back in the bath. So you put him
Speaker 1: in the bath again. So Brandon was suggesting getting a
Speaker 1: leaf blower out to try and dry these cushis. You know,
Speaker 1: we have a dryer at our house, we have a
Speaker 1: dryer at ours, but I was wirried it was going
Speaker 1: to shrink the cushions. Anyway, we had to put it
Speaker 1: in the dryer. We pulled it all together. It looks
Speaker 1: fucking brand new. People that the water aren't listening to this.
Speaker 1: The girl rocked up and she was like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: I love it, and we were like perfect. So she's
Speaker 1: coming on Friday to come and get this. This goes
Speaker 1: out Friday. Hopefully the exchange will have taken place by
Speaker 1: the well, you know, you have a lot of people
Speaker 1: listening that might want the couch. It's being professionally clean.
Speaker 1: Well that's what I thought. I'd probably be more happy
Speaker 1: to buy a secondhand couch if I knew that it
Speaker 1: had been cleaned. It's been bleached into an intr anyway,
Speaker 1: moral of the story is be very careful with your couch.
Speaker 1: Maybe don't let your dog on it. I thought you
Speaker 1: gonna say with your marketplace purchase, be wary. Well, we're
Speaker 1: going to leave things there. Thank you for listening to
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