WEBVTT - Em Davies’ G-Banger Causes A Stir & Courtside Influencers 0:00:02.279 --> 0:00:05.160 Hello and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the 0:00:05.160 --> 0:00:08.840 hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm 0:00:08.840 --> 0:00:12.559 Amy Torber and coming up on today's show, Sophie Kasha 0:00:12.680 --> 0:00:15.920 throws a serious shade at her ex fiance Matti Garrick, 0:00:16.280 --> 0:00:20.320 the ungrateful influences at this year's Australian Open, and our 0:00:20.400 --> 0:00:24.000 Friday Debrief. The first m Davies Hen's weekend in Bali 0:00:24.079 --> 0:00:26.920 has been making headlines. The bride to be's guest list 0:00:27.000 --> 0:00:29.400 is under the spotlight, as well as the outfit she 0:00:29.520 --> 0:00:31.880 wore to a beach club, Kate, can you tell us more? 0:00:32.080 --> 0:00:32.320 Well? 0:00:32.360 --> 0:00:35.760 The mainstream media have been pretty cruel about m's Hen's looks, 0:00:35.760 --> 0:00:37.919 so for those who haven't seen it, she wore this 0:00:38.360 --> 0:00:41.640 white bando style bra top and had a mini skirt 0:00:41.680 --> 0:00:43.120 made up of chule. It kind of looked like a 0:00:43.200 --> 0:00:46.000 two two and what set people off the most was 0:00:46.000 --> 0:00:49.400 the visible G string that sat just above the skirt, 0:00:49.479 --> 0:00:52.360 which was embroidered with the name Missus G. And all 0:00:52.400 --> 0:00:55.240 I could think about was the Chris Lily character mister G. 0:00:55.440 --> 0:00:58.000 When I saw it, it reminded me more of Kath 0:00:58.040 --> 0:01:00.520 and Kim. Remember Kim used to rock a very visible 0:01:00.560 --> 0:01:03.040 G string. I can see why this G string was 0:01:03.040 --> 0:01:05.240 a bit of a focus in the mainstream media because 0:01:05.600 --> 0:01:09.560 every single Instagram story I saw on Saturday featured it. 0:01:09.560 --> 0:01:12.560 It was either a close up of m twerking and 0:01:12.600 --> 0:01:15.360 the G string in it, or just dancing around. She 0:01:15.440 --> 0:01:17.920 was having the best time. She probably didn't care what 0:01:18.000 --> 0:01:20.600 was being written about her. Well. The Daily Mail run 0:01:20.640 --> 0:01:23.479 with a story asking its readers to weigh in as 0:01:23.520 --> 0:01:26.040 to whether they thought the outfit was appropriate for her 0:01:26.080 --> 0:01:29.120 Hen's party. I mean, they clearly were expecting some pretty 0:01:29.200 --> 0:01:32.480 vile comment trail. There were over two hundred comments on 0:01:32.560 --> 0:01:35.960 the story, and I was actually taken aback about how 0:01:36.040 --> 0:01:38.280 vile they were. I mean, I know the Daily Mail 0:01:38.360 --> 0:01:40.160 is known for that type of commentary, but it was 0:01:40.280 --> 0:01:43.400 next level. I really felt for m Now her outfit 0:01:43.600 --> 0:01:46.679 even made international news, with The Sun running with the 0:01:46.720 --> 0:01:50.240 headline Taki Mum leaves little to the imagination and Hendu 0:01:50.360 --> 0:01:53.680 Brah and skirt duo that even show off her G string. 0:01:53.760 --> 0:01:57.000 I really felt like these media publications weren't asking people 0:01:57.040 --> 0:01:59.280 to weigh in on the outfit. They were more asking 0:01:59.320 --> 0:02:01.720 people to weigh in about how they felt about a 0:02:01.800 --> 0:02:03.880 mum wearing an outfit like, Yes, there was a lot 0:02:03.920 --> 0:02:06.440 of shame involved, and I felt for em because this 0:02:06.600 --> 0:02:10.160 was literally her first trip away from her daughter. It's 0:02:10.200 --> 0:02:12.680 such an exciting time in her life. She's been juggling 0:02:12.680 --> 0:02:15.320 motherhood and also planning her wedding. Why can't she let 0:02:15.360 --> 0:02:17.839 her hair down? And we're a cool outfit? Does being 0:02:17.840 --> 0:02:19.600 a mum mean that you're not allowed to show off 0:02:19.639 --> 0:02:22.400 any skin? You're not allowed to wear something cool? Look, 0:02:22.639 --> 0:02:25.359 it's not really my vibe. I personally wouldn't be rocking 0:02:25.400 --> 0:02:28.120 a g string to my hen's party, but we're all 0:02:28.240 --> 0:02:30.720 very different people. Em used to own her own fashion brand. 0:02:30.760 --> 0:02:33.000 She's very up on the trend. But also this was 0:02:33.040 --> 0:02:36.280 a hen's party in Bali where everyone was wearing bathers. 0:02:36.360 --> 0:02:39.560 It was more of a bayor bottoms than a launder age. 0:02:40.240 --> 0:02:42.959 Like the shaming, that's what I find vile about it. Yeah, 0:02:42.960 --> 0:02:45.320 that really grinded my gears. And the thing is, as 0:02:45.360 --> 0:02:47.440 you said, Amy, she used to own her own fashion label. 0:02:47.480 --> 0:02:49.200 She's very up with the trends and back in July 0:02:49.320 --> 0:02:51.840 last year, models were wearing exposed g strings on the 0:02:51.919 --> 0:02:54.320 runway at Paris Fashion Week. It's a trend that's trying 0:02:54.360 --> 0:02:57.280 to make a comeback for quite a couple of years now. Also, 0:02:57.480 --> 0:02:59.960 I feel like, because she is such a massive influence, 0:03:00.639 --> 0:03:03.040 she's trying to make a statement at her Hen's Party. 0:03:03.080 --> 0:03:05.160 She doesn't want to copy what everyone else has done. 0:03:05.160 --> 0:03:07.960 I've never seen this visible G string used as a 0:03:08.000 --> 0:03:10.000 Hen's Party outfit. It's a bit like when we saw 0:03:10.080 --> 0:03:13.480 Tammy trying to have a pink dress and have that moment. 0:03:13.520 --> 0:03:15.639 They're all trying to have a moment and create a trend. 0:03:15.840 --> 0:03:18.480 I wonder if we'll be seeing more visible Hen's Party 0:03:18.480 --> 0:03:20.239 g's dress and somehow don't think it's going to go 0:03:20.320 --> 0:03:22.760 off as much as Tammy's pink dress. I'm actually more 0:03:22.760 --> 0:03:25.360 impressed than and managed to wear this outfit while she 0:03:25.400 --> 0:03:27.600 had her period, because she opened up in her stories 0:03:27.639 --> 0:03:30.400 that when she landed in Balley she got her first 0:03:30.440 --> 0:03:34.240 period post baby. The timing, I mean, doesn't this always happen? 0:03:34.280 --> 0:03:38.040 Your period always rears its head at the most inopportune moment. Yeah, 0:03:38.080 --> 0:03:40.320 isn't it the way? Anytime you have to wear white, 0:03:40.800 --> 0:03:44.080 that's when your period arrives. Now everyone has been really 0:03:44.120 --> 0:03:46.880 invested in EM's Hen's Party guest list, and that is 0:03:46.920 --> 0:03:50.800 because EM's bridesmaid and fellow influence a Lily Brown has 0:03:50.840 --> 0:03:54.520 a long standing feud with EM's other besties Lucy Jackson 0:03:54.560 --> 0:03:57.680 and Nikki Westcott, and seeing this Lily is a bridesmaid, 0:03:57.680 --> 0:03:59.200 you would assume that she would have had a lot 0:03:59.240 --> 0:04:00.920 to do with the plan of the event. So I 0:04:01.040 --> 0:04:03.640 was wondering whether Lucy and nicky'ste might have got lost 0:04:03.640 --> 0:04:06.160 in the mail. Well, some people thought that Lily's invite 0:04:06.200 --> 0:04:08.000 got lost in the mail because in some of the 0:04:08.040 --> 0:04:11.440 early Instagram stories that were coming out from Bali, Lily 0:04:11.600 --> 0:04:14.200 wasn't in any of them, and people were like, where 0:04:14.280 --> 0:04:16.680 is she? But she suddenly popped up the next day 0:04:17.279 --> 0:04:20.560 and Lucy and Nicky were there, So Lily did the 0:04:20.640 --> 0:04:22.800 right thing inviting them. I would have loved to be 0:04:22.839 --> 0:04:25.240 a fly on the wall, particularly, it looked like a 0:04:25.320 --> 0:04:28.720 very boozy weekend and that's usually when fights break out. 0:04:29.240 --> 0:04:32.039 They had those IV drips after the first night to 0:04:32.120 --> 0:04:34.360 help with the hangovers, and they said these are ahead 0:04:34.400 --> 0:04:36.440 of round two. I mean, I would pay a lot 0:04:36.440 --> 0:04:38.520 of money to know what actually happened behind the scenes, 0:04:38.520 --> 0:04:41.920 because surely once alcohols involved, feelings are going to get 0:04:41.960 --> 0:04:45.240 out there A notable absentee was Tammy Hembro So Em 0:04:45.279 --> 0:04:47.719 and Tammy they've been friends for a really long time now, 0:04:47.800 --> 0:04:51.400 and Em attended Tammy's wedding back in November, and after 0:04:51.440 --> 0:04:53.640 Em shared a reel of the event, a follower asked 0:04:53.680 --> 0:04:56.480 why Tammy wasn't there, to which Em respotted she had 0:04:56.520 --> 0:04:58.920 to look after her brothers. I mean, Tammy has done 0:04:58.920 --> 0:05:00.920 a lot of traveling at the end of last year 0:05:01.000 --> 0:05:03.799 and also this year, she probably just couldn't add another 0:05:03.960 --> 0:05:06.800 overseas trip to her list, and she is a newly wed, 0:05:06.960 --> 0:05:08.839 probably wanting to spend a lot of time with Matt. 0:05:08.920 --> 0:05:10.680 It's really hard for me to get my head around 0:05:10.720 --> 0:05:13.479 how quickly this wedding is approaching, because it only feels 0:05:13.520 --> 0:05:16.560 like yesterday when Em got engaged. But that was two 0:05:16.720 --> 0:05:19.320 years ago, back in March twenty twenty three. So EM's 0:05:19.320 --> 0:05:22.000 engagement made big news too because she got engaged under 0:05:22.040 --> 0:05:24.560 the Brooklyn Bridge in New York and everyone just thought 0:05:24.560 --> 0:05:26.680 it was the most esthetic proposal. 0:05:27.240 --> 0:05:27.400 Now. 0:05:27.440 --> 0:05:30.119 Em also only just gave birth to her first child, 0:05:30.120 --> 0:05:33.320 Aler back in August, so her and job have packed 0:05:33.360 --> 0:05:35.479 a lot in the last two years. I'm so excited 0:05:35.480 --> 0:05:37.960 for the wedding it's on the twenty second of February. 0:05:38.040 --> 0:05:40.040 Do we think from the choice of Hen's party outfit 0:05:40.080 --> 0:05:41.920 that we're going to see something quite outrageous in a 0:05:41.960 --> 0:05:44.760 number of her wedding looks. Yes. I think she'll have 0:05:44.880 --> 0:05:48.520 a similar second or third dress to Tammy Hembrose. You 0:05:48.560 --> 0:05:50.240 know that one she wore later in the night when 0:05:50.240 --> 0:05:52.200 she was cutting the cave. Sure one. Yeah, it kind 0:05:52.200 --> 0:05:57.920 of looked like lingerie. I think something like that. Serena Williams. Yeah, 0:05:57.960 --> 0:06:03.359 I don't think she plays Serena Waitness. Is that true, 0:06:03.680 --> 0:06:09.040 Serena Williams, Yes, Serena. A number of influencers have been 0:06:09.120 --> 0:06:12.440 slammed for their lack of tennis knowledge and labeled ungrateful 0:06:12.760 --> 0:06:15.800 after being gifted free airfares and prime seats to the 0:06:15.839 --> 0:06:19.880 Australian Open by big name brands. One influencer was caught 0:06:19.920 --> 0:06:23.120 on camera saying she predicted Sabrina Williams could win this 0:06:23.240 --> 0:06:27.159 year's Open, whilst Tammy Hembro told her snapchat followers. 0:06:26.720 --> 0:06:34.760 This heading to the Australina ben watch some tennis, I 0:06:34.800 --> 0:06:37.280 definitely won't be watching. No, I'll be. 0:06:39.800 --> 0:06:40.560 I'm not like. 0:06:40.680 --> 0:06:45.599 Into the tennis so much when I'm there. Yeah, like 0:06:45.720 --> 0:06:51.120 I'll watch to like fit in, to look like I've belong. 0:06:53.960 --> 0:06:56.520 This is a very privileged comment. I'll get into it 0:06:56.560 --> 0:06:58.359 whilst I'm there. I'll get into it whilst I have 0:06:58.400 --> 0:07:00.839 the best seats in the house. Well, to add insult 0:07:00.920 --> 0:07:03.240 to injury, Matt and Tammy seats looked like they were 0:07:03.279 --> 0:07:06.320 literally sitting on center core and as a tennis fan, 0:07:06.640 --> 0:07:09.320 I couldn't help but feel so jealous. It does leave 0:07:09.360 --> 0:07:10.960 a bit of a bad taste in your mouth. The 0:07:10.960 --> 0:07:14.200 Sabrina Williams comment really throws me because obviously that influencer 0:07:14.360 --> 0:07:18.080 was referring to Serena Williams, but she's been retired for 0:07:18.080 --> 0:07:20.320 a couple of years now, so who was she actually referring. 0:07:20.480 --> 0:07:22.720 I think she might have been trying to say Seblenka, 0:07:22.800 --> 0:07:24.640 which is one of the women who is set to 0:07:24.680 --> 0:07:27.840 take out this year's title, who won last year's Australian Open. Well, 0:07:27.920 --> 0:07:30.920 just back to Tammy's commentary, she has been slammed by 0:07:30.920 --> 0:07:33.680 tennis fans. One caught her out online saying I'm so 0:07:33.880 --> 0:07:37.880 sick of brand sending influencers who don't watch tennis. Another wrote, 0:07:37.920 --> 0:07:40.160 I get the influencers are there to promote and do 0:07:40.240 --> 0:07:42.920 a job, but it's such a waste of space slash 0:07:42.920 --> 0:07:45.920 tickets to send people who don't watch or pretend to 0:07:46.160 --> 0:07:48.840 like tennis. I've really noticed in the past couple of 0:07:48.920 --> 0:07:51.600 years that the Australian Open has had this transformation. It's 0:07:51.640 --> 0:07:54.440 become a cool girl event. Everyone wants to be seen 0:07:54.520 --> 0:07:55.920 at it, and I think it has a lot to 0:07:55.960 --> 0:07:58.160 do with the fact that horse racing is very on 0:07:58.240 --> 0:08:00.280 the nose. That used to be an event where you 0:08:00.320 --> 0:08:03.320 could get dressed up, you could show off your outfits, 0:08:03.360 --> 0:08:05.720 and now that's what the Australian Open and also f 0:08:05.800 --> 0:08:08.080 One has become. Yeah, and back when horse racing was 0:08:08.120 --> 0:08:10.960 really popular, the high profile of people going weren't there 0:08:11.000 --> 0:08:13.280 to see the horse racing. They were there to socialize 0:08:13.320 --> 0:08:15.560 and party in the marquees. And that's the thing where 0:08:15.560 --> 0:08:18.680 the Australian Open. They have created such an amazing event 0:08:18.720 --> 0:08:21.440 that there's a huge fan village there. Now you can eat, 0:08:21.480 --> 0:08:23.920 you can drink there, there's so many things to do 0:08:23.960 --> 0:08:25.800 that you don't actually even have to watch the tennis. 0:08:25.840 --> 0:08:27.360 You can just be a part of the atmosphere. And 0:08:27.400 --> 0:08:29.400 I get the vibe that a lot of influencers are 0:08:29.440 --> 0:08:32.240 spending more time taking photos of them with the core 0:08:32.360 --> 0:08:35.160 in the background that they're actually spending watching the game. 0:08:35.320 --> 0:08:37.960 Whoever's doing the marketing and the brand partnerships at the 0:08:37.960 --> 0:08:40.600 Australian Open needs to be commended because over the last 0:08:40.600 --> 0:08:42.640 couple of years we have seen it go from strength 0:08:42.679 --> 0:08:45.040 to strength. There are a lot of high profile brands 0:08:45.080 --> 0:08:48.040 that you wouldn't normally associate with the tennis getting on board, 0:08:48.280 --> 0:08:50.800 and also a lot of corporate tickets being sold. So 0:08:51.160 --> 0:08:53.840 brands like White Fox Boutique, they're jumping on board and 0:08:53.880 --> 0:08:56.880 buying boxes at the tennis and hosting influences a bit 0:08:56.920 --> 0:08:59.160 like we've seen at concerts. I've also noticed that a 0:08:59.160 --> 0:09:02.319 lot of these clothing brands, like White Fox and Revenue, 0:09:02.720 --> 0:09:06.880 they have incorporated tennis care into their summer launchers as well, 0:09:07.520 --> 0:09:11.040 so they understand the power that the Australian Open has 0:09:11.080 --> 0:09:13.000 and that people want to look the part when they're 0:09:13.000 --> 0:09:14.880 going there. There's been a lot of eyes on the 0:09:14.960 --> 0:09:18.960 Ralph Laren influencer activation. So Ralph Lauren are the Australian 0:09:18.960 --> 0:09:21.600 Open's official clothing partner this year, they have been for 0:09:21.640 --> 0:09:24.240 the last four years and they have put on a 0:09:24.400 --> 0:09:27.120 massive influencer trips, so they've been flying out a lot 0:09:27.160 --> 0:09:29.480 of influencers and putting them up in hotels and giving 0:09:29.480 --> 0:09:32.800 them a real luxurious experience. Of course, they're also getting 0:09:32.800 --> 0:09:34.600 prime seats to the tennis. So some of the big 0:09:34.679 --> 0:09:37.600 name influencers in attendance at the Ralph Lauren event have 0:09:37.679 --> 0:09:42.280 been Sammy Robinson, Millie Ford, Sammy Guggenheimer, Rebecca Harding, and 0:09:42.360 --> 0:09:45.719 Sophia Beg. Morgan Waterhouse also got an invite. I'm not 0:09:45.800 --> 0:09:48.160 quite sure how he managed to get a ticket because 0:09:48.200 --> 0:09:50.480 he really isn't in the same playing field as a 0:09:50.559 --> 0:09:54.560 number of those influencers. It's quite interesting because in one 0:09:54.640 --> 0:09:58.439 YouTube video and influencer spoke about how Ralph Lauren had 0:09:58.440 --> 0:10:01.240 brought in an expert to bring their guests up to 0:10:01.320 --> 0:10:04.400 speed on the rules of tennis. Let's have a listen 0:10:04.440 --> 0:10:05.120 to what we said. 0:10:05.920 --> 0:10:09.080 Once we got there, we headed into the Polo Ralphloranz suite. 0:10:09.120 --> 0:10:12.920 They had cocktails and cannon piece for us, and we 0:10:13.080 --> 0:10:17.480 just chilled and talked and got picks, and then Ava 0:10:17.800 --> 0:10:20.000 was here teaching us a bit about the tennis because 0:10:20.240 --> 0:10:23.400 we didn't really know what was going on, and then 0:10:23.400 --> 0:10:26.240 we headed down into the court. This was my first 0:10:26.320 --> 0:10:29.520 time at the Ausuelian Open, and honestly, I'm in tennis 0:10:29.520 --> 0:10:30.040 going out. 0:10:30.600 --> 0:10:32.840 There's also been a number of influencers called out for 0:10:32.960 --> 0:10:36.880 talking during games, and for anyone who is familiar with tennis, 0:10:36.880 --> 0:10:38.680 it is a game of etiquette. You have to be 0:10:38.800 --> 0:10:41.360 quiet during the points and the players will be quite 0:10:41.400 --> 0:10:44.040 vocal if people aren't being quiet and never watching a 0:10:44.080 --> 0:10:47.120 number of games where there'd be some fans who were 0:10:47.200 --> 0:10:50.520 cheering during points and the tennis players would get really 0:10:50.559 --> 0:10:53.720 agitated and speak to the umpire because it's just against 0:10:53.720 --> 0:10:56.920 the rules. You can't have people barracking or speaking during points. 0:10:57.000 --> 0:10:57.240 Yeah. 0:10:57.280 --> 0:11:00.840 Well, sports presenter and producer Michelle Escobar into the debate 0:11:00.880 --> 0:11:02.199 on TikTok, saying this. 0:11:02.679 --> 0:11:07.120 I'm talking about the influencers who are getting paid by brands, 0:11:07.400 --> 0:11:11.520 who are working with brands, who are getting very privileged 0:11:11.679 --> 0:11:16.360 positions and freebiz, and are also working at the Australian 0:11:16.400 --> 0:11:20.079 Open while not even knowing the basic rules of tennis. Now, 0:11:20.160 --> 0:11:22.320 up until a few years ago, you had to work 0:11:22.520 --> 0:11:24.760 very very hard to be able to break into the 0:11:24.840 --> 0:11:27.560 media landscape, but now it just seems like if you 0:11:27.679 --> 0:11:30.360 have a lot of followers, you can jump the queue. 0:11:30.440 --> 0:11:32.760 The problem with that is that you're just hiring people 0:11:32.800 --> 0:11:37.760 based on numbers and not knowledge, so they don't actually 0:11:37.840 --> 0:11:39.120 know what they're talking about. 0:11:39.720 --> 0:11:41.679 Michelle went on to say that there were a number 0:11:41.720 --> 0:11:44.200 of sports content creators doing really good work at the 0:11:44.200 --> 0:11:48.040 Australian Open who have a genuine passionate interest for the game, 0:11:48.080 --> 0:11:51.040 and she hoped that they got more opportunities. I can 0:11:51.080 --> 0:11:53.800 totally see where Michelle is coming from, because it is 0:11:53.960 --> 0:11:57.280 utterly frustrating as a tennis lover to see people there 0:11:57.280 --> 0:12:00.079 who don't necessarily appreciate it and who appear to be 0:12:00.120 --> 0:12:02.240 taking the piss and making a bit of a mockery 0:12:02.600 --> 0:12:04.800 of such a beautiful game. But we've got to look 0:12:04.800 --> 0:12:08.320 at it from a marketing perspective and which brands are 0:12:08.320 --> 0:12:11.720 inviting which influencers. It doesn't really make sense for White 0:12:11.720 --> 0:12:15.400 Fox boutique to invite a sports content creator. They want 0:12:15.400 --> 0:12:18.000 to invite a high profile influencer who's going to look 0:12:18.000 --> 0:12:20.080 good in the clothes, who's going to take lots of 0:12:20.120 --> 0:12:23.319 photos and be able to provide that content they want afterwards. 0:12:23.520 --> 0:12:26.800 It's also helping open up the sport to a new 0:12:27.080 --> 0:12:30.280 category of people who haven't watched tennis before. Yeah, it's 0:12:30.280 --> 0:12:32.800 all about getting the Australian Open brand and the game 0:12:32.840 --> 0:12:35.400 of tennis out to as many eyeballs as possible, and 0:12:35.440 --> 0:12:37.959 that's what's happening when you invite all of these influencers. 0:12:38.440 --> 0:12:40.720 I think it also just comes down to the individual 0:12:40.760 --> 0:12:43.720 responsibility of the influencer to not act like a jerk 0:12:43.720 --> 0:12:46.880 and have respect for the event that they've been invited to. Hopefully, 0:12:46.880 --> 0:12:49.760 for some influencers this might have kicked off their love 0:12:49.800 --> 0:12:51.880 of the sport now yeah, And I think it just 0:12:51.880 --> 0:12:54.360 shows what a great job the Australian Opens marketing team 0:12:54.400 --> 0:12:58.280 have done to actually put the event on such a pedestal. 0:12:58.440 --> 0:13:00.800 The people are jealous that influence as are getting free 0:13:00.800 --> 0:13:03.840 tickets because it's not a new thing. Influence has are 0:13:03.840 --> 0:13:07.440 gifted free tickets to concerts, so many other sporting events. 0:13:07.640 --> 0:13:10.000 But it's really put people's noses out of joint because 0:13:10.000 --> 0:13:11.840 they want to be there so much. So we've got 0:13:11.880 --> 0:13:14.560 to remember that this has actually grown from just being 0:13:14.559 --> 0:13:17.439 a sporting event. As we've discussed, there's a real festival 0:13:17.520 --> 0:13:20.679 vibe around this. There's pop up bars, there's a lot 0:13:20.720 --> 0:13:23.400 of brands they're trying to sell products, so that is 0:13:23.480 --> 0:13:26.640 also why people are reaching out to lifestyle influencers and 0:13:26.720 --> 0:13:28.080 not just sporting figures. 0:13:28.760 --> 0:13:32.520 The funny thing about all of this is poor Mads. 0:13:33.160 --> 0:13:35.880 She didn't sign up for this. She got really skinny, 0:13:36.000 --> 0:13:39.360 really fit, sexy mama when we started dating. 0:13:40.400 --> 0:13:41.240 Now you've got this. 0:13:42.720 --> 0:13:43.920 So beautiful. 0:13:46.840 --> 0:13:54.160 Wiggle pajama. Entrepreneur Sophie Keisha has thrown serious shade at 0:13:54.160 --> 0:13:57.360 her expiance Maddi Garrick during a lengthy Q and A 0:13:57.480 --> 0:14:01.040 with her new girlfriend, Maddie Presspackis. Sophie, who is just 0:14:01.120 --> 0:14:04.160 weeks away from giving birth, couldn't resist referring to her 0:14:04.200 --> 0:14:07.480 ex as a cheetah and said she's finally found someone 0:14:07.559 --> 0:14:10.959 who gets on with her family. So the whole idea 0:14:11.080 --> 0:14:12.880 of this Q and A was for followers to get 0:14:12.920 --> 0:14:14.880 to know her new girlfriend. And that's why I think 0:14:14.880 --> 0:14:17.840 it was extra awkward that these shots were being fired 0:14:18.280 --> 0:14:20.400 in saying that though I was really invested in this 0:14:20.520 --> 0:14:23.240 Q and A because I've been really curious to see 0:14:23.280 --> 0:14:25.840 the dynamic between Sophie and her new girlfriend. There is 0:14:25.880 --> 0:14:28.840 a ten year age gap, so I wanted to see 0:14:29.120 --> 0:14:31.600 what they're actually like behind closed doors, and we were 0:14:31.680 --> 0:14:34.600 granted a half an hour glimpse into their lives. So 0:14:34.600 --> 0:14:37.040 Sophie explained that her kids were in bed early for once, 0:14:37.040 --> 0:14:39.280 so it was a great opportunity for her followers to 0:14:39.320 --> 0:14:41.600 get to know Maddie, who she referred to as the 0:14:41.640 --> 0:14:44.800 greatest human in the world. Big title now. She went 0:14:44.840 --> 0:14:48.080 public about her relationship with the AFLW player back in 0:14:48.160 --> 0:14:51.560 November in an exclusive interview with Stella magazine where she 0:14:51.640 --> 0:14:55.080 spoke about her pregnancy and love life. It was a 0:14:55.120 --> 0:14:57.840 really casual Q and A because both of the women 0:14:57.880 --> 0:15:00.720 were dressed in their pjs, Keisha branded, of course, and 0:15:00.760 --> 0:15:03.920 Sophie was enjoying cheesecake from Uber Eat. I think that's 0:15:03.960 --> 0:15:06.280 one of her pregnancy cravings. I was gonna say, tell 0:15:06.280 --> 0:15:09.359 me you're pregnant without telling me you're pregnant. It sounds delightful. 0:15:09.560 --> 0:15:12.200 She did add a disclaimer in the question box, saying 0:15:12.200 --> 0:15:14.640 that there was a no dickhead policy and people would 0:15:14.680 --> 0:15:18.840 be blocked immediately if they crossed the line with their questions. Now, 0:15:19.040 --> 0:15:21.400 this Q and A did spark a lot of commentary 0:15:21.520 --> 0:15:23.840 about Sophie and Maddie's dynamic, and I had to agree 0:15:23.880 --> 0:15:26.760 with a few comments in our Facebook community. Our times, 0:15:26.920 --> 0:15:30.000 it did feel like Sophie was almost parenting Maddie and 0:15:30.040 --> 0:15:32.800 coaching her to give her the right answer. So one 0:15:32.800 --> 0:15:34.800 of our listeners joke that they were worried Maddie would 0:15:34.800 --> 0:15:37.520 get a question wrong and get told off. It did 0:15:37.640 --> 0:15:40.160 feel like that. I mean, as I said, there is 0:15:40.240 --> 0:15:42.800 a ten year age gap between the couple, Maddie's only 0:15:42.840 --> 0:15:45.360 twenty four, and I have to say, as a side note, 0:15:45.400 --> 0:15:48.640 she seemed really sweet and like a nice person. She 0:15:48.880 --> 0:15:51.480 seemed to answer every question almost like she was being 0:15:51.520 --> 0:15:54.400 interviewed on the footy field. She was very diplomatic and 0:15:54.840 --> 0:15:56.880 sort of matter of fact about it. You could tell 0:15:56.920 --> 0:15:59.560 that she was really desperate and under pressure to say 0:15:59.560 --> 0:16:02.840 the right thing as well, because Sophie kept glaring at 0:16:02.840 --> 0:16:06.120 her and sort of being like yeah, So not only 0:16:06.200 --> 0:16:09.720 was she trying to impress Sophie's followers, but also Sophie. Yeah. 0:16:09.800 --> 0:16:12.320 Now there was a question about the age gap and 0:16:12.360 --> 0:16:15.440 whether it felt loud at times. This is what Maddie said. 0:16:15.840 --> 0:16:20.920 No. Like at the start, honestly, I was a bit like, well, 0:16:21.320 --> 0:16:24.000 I would didn't plan to have two kids so at 0:16:24.040 --> 0:16:28.880 my age. But no, I feel like soph and I 0:16:28.960 --> 0:16:31.400 we like the same things, we have the same interests, 0:16:31.760 --> 0:16:33.600 we bond over a lot of the same things. 0:16:33.640 --> 0:16:36.480 So, yeah, I feel like you are a much more 0:16:36.560 --> 0:16:40.400 mature person of your age then I know than I've 0:16:40.440 --> 0:16:44.360 ever met, and I feel like I'm a young soul. 0:16:44.560 --> 0:16:45.520 I meet you halfway. 0:16:45.680 --> 0:16:47.000 Yeah, we definitely meet halfway. 0:16:47.400 --> 0:16:49.840 As someone who has a history of dating younger guys, 0:16:50.040 --> 0:16:52.480 I could recognize that Sophie was trying to say that 0:16:52.560 --> 0:16:54.760 thing that we all say where you're like, oh, no, 0:16:55.080 --> 0:16:58.160 this person I'm dating is very mature for their age. 0:16:58.320 --> 0:16:58.720 It's soul. 0:16:58.920 --> 0:17:00.800 Yeah, whether it's true or not. And I think it's 0:17:00.840 --> 0:17:03.400 what you tell yourself until you break up with them, 0:17:03.400 --> 0:17:06.440 and then you tell everyone, oh, they were so immature. Yeah, 0:17:06.480 --> 0:17:09.119 she was really trying to get that message across. She 0:17:09.160 --> 0:17:11.719 said that Maddie was mature beyond her years, and she 0:17:11.760 --> 0:17:14.120 had her life together. She owns her own home, her 0:17:14.119 --> 0:17:17.360 own car, and has her finances well in order. Again, 0:17:17.440 --> 0:17:20.439 it almost felt like she was talking about her own child, 0:17:20.520 --> 0:17:23.440 like they take the bin out at night time, they 0:17:24.000 --> 0:17:26.360 mow the lawn, they walk the dog like that sort 0:17:26.359 --> 0:17:30.160 of vibe. Well, the commentary around finances is interesting because 0:17:30.200 --> 0:17:33.840 I think Sophie is trying to extinguish any negative commentary 0:17:33.840 --> 0:17:35.800 that might come up about Maddie trying to be a 0:17:35.840 --> 0:17:38.920 gold digger. Yeah, I think so too. The only time 0:17:38.960 --> 0:17:41.320 that Sophie admitted to noticing the age gap is when 0:17:41.320 --> 0:17:43.159 they're having a sing along in the car together and 0:17:43.160 --> 0:17:46.000 Maddie doesn't know some of the songs. Yeah, that really 0:17:46.040 --> 0:17:48.359 makes you feel old. We have a couple of friends 0:17:48.400 --> 0:17:50.920 who are six or seven years younger than us and 0:17:50.960 --> 0:17:52.520 they didn't know her hands and was and I was like, 0:17:52.640 --> 0:17:56.040 oh my god. Now. Throughout this Q and A as 0:17:56.040 --> 0:17:59.000 we touched on, Sophie threw a lot of shade at 0:17:59.000 --> 0:18:01.840 her ex fiance, Maddie Garrick, and I hope that this 0:18:02.200 --> 0:18:05.600 segment doesn't get too confusing because Sophie's X does have, 0:18:05.800 --> 0:18:07.919 of course the same name as a new girlfriend, and 0:18:07.960 --> 0:18:10.560 then the ex before was also an AFLW players. There's 0:18:10.560 --> 0:18:13.239 a lot of crossover with these partners, as we say 0:18:13.280 --> 0:18:15.359 it all the time. But she's obviously got a time. Yeah, 0:18:15.359 --> 0:18:19.200 definitely now. Sophie dramatically called off her engagement to Mattie 0:18:19.240 --> 0:18:22.159 Garrick in twenty twenty two. God was it twenty twenty two, 0:18:22.400 --> 0:18:25.240 And that was shortly after flying to Italy, where Maddie 0:18:25.320 --> 0:18:28.359 was playing basketball and at the time Sophie made it 0:18:28.440 --> 0:18:32.080 very clear that she had been cheated on, allegedly. Allegedly. Now, 0:18:32.119 --> 0:18:34.800 the first potshot that was herld was Sophie admitting that 0:18:34.840 --> 0:18:37.320 she's the one who holds a lot of insecurities about 0:18:37.320 --> 0:18:40.440 the age gap in her relationship with Mattie press Packers, 0:18:40.560 --> 0:18:42.600 and that is due to the way she was treated 0:18:42.640 --> 0:18:45.600 by Mattie Garrick. Here's what she said on that. 0:18:45.760 --> 0:18:48.440 I will say I'm the one with the insecurities about 0:18:48.440 --> 0:18:49.160 the age gap. 0:18:50.000 --> 0:18:55.960 Yeah, I feel like I don't know what's say. No, 0:18:56.119 --> 0:18:59.119 I I just I don't see the difference between the 0:18:59.160 --> 0:19:02.480 age but I see sinsecurities and yeah, I always just 0:19:02.520 --> 0:19:05.600 say that you've got nothing to worry about. Yeah, her, 0:19:05.720 --> 0:19:08.960 but before where lives people, and that's all the matters. 0:19:09.040 --> 0:19:12.200 We bond over good things and yeah, we've got our 0:19:12.640 --> 0:19:14.760 life set out together, so that's good. 0:19:14.840 --> 0:19:15.880 We've got big plans. 0:19:15.920 --> 0:19:16.280 Baby. 0:19:16.760 --> 0:19:19.880 I wonder how Maddie Presspackers felt about these comments being 0:19:19.920 --> 0:19:21.840