Speaker 1: This is Outspoken.
Speaker 2: The podcast is not afraid to say exactly what you're thinking.
Speaker 1: Our names are Amy Kate and Sophie Torba.
Speaker 2: We're identical triplets, but we often don't have identical opinions,
Speaker 2: so sometimes things can get heated. Outspoken covers all things
Speaker 2: reality TV, influencers, entertainment, and issues facing women.
Speaker 1: That is so fat.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Welcome back to Friday's episode of Outspoken. It
Speaker 2: is so weird because Sophie and I are here together,
Speaker 2: But Kate, you're on zoom all the way in Corimandel Valley.
Speaker 1: You couldn't be bothered to come and join us.
Speaker 2: Oh, I mean I could be bothered. But we just
Speaker 2: thought this might save a little bit of time so
Speaker 2: I don't have to drive around for like two hours.
Speaker 2: So so far, so good. I hope it's actually recording
Speaker 2: properly because I feel like I'm quite comfortable recording this
Speaker 2: now in my bedroom. Well, let's get straight into the
Speaker 2: social dilemma. And this one has been inspired by Courtney
Speaker 2: Kardashian and Scott Disick. So, for those who don't know,
Speaker 2: Courtney has been dating Blink one two drummer Travis Barker,
Speaker 2: and Scott has got a new younger girlfriend. Her name
Speaker 2: is Amelia Gray Hamlin. She's nineteen and she's the daughter
Speaker 2: of one of the housewives on the Real Housewives of
Speaker 2: Beverly Hills. So fans actually spotted Courtney and Travis out
Speaker 2: to dinner with Scott and Amelia, and people were speculating.
Speaker 1: That this was a very, very awkward date.
Speaker 2: So gossip site des Moir they posted a photo. They
Speaker 2: didn't actually have a photo of the date, but they
Speaker 2: posted a tip off that there was this double date,
Speaker 2: and one person made one hell of a comment. They wrote,
Speaker 2: it's so odd to me, like, what does the two
Speaker 2: thousand and one baby have to do with these grown
Speaker 2: ass people. I know that dinner was awkward as hell.
Speaker 2: So what's happened is Travis Barker has seen this post
Speaker 2: and he has liked this comment, so he has confirmed
Speaker 2: this dinner was awkward as I mean, I don't even
Speaker 2: think it's just the age difference that's awkward. It's the
Speaker 2: fact that you're on a double date with two pp
Speaker 2: who had a long term relationship and have kids together,
Speaker 2: Like it would be so bloody awkward. And then you
Speaker 2: couple that with the fact that Travis is a forty
Speaker 2: five year old man who now is making conversation Yeah,
Speaker 2: with a nineteen year old girl. He could be her father,
Speaker 2: he could be So it got us thinking, what is
Speaker 2: everyone's thoughts on actually having a double date with your ex?
Speaker 2: Is this something you guys would do? Is this something you.
Speaker 1: Would contemplate if you had children with somebody?
Speaker 2: I think no, no, But I think the fact that
Speaker 2: they have children complicates the situation because there are a
Speaker 2: lot of couples or exes that move on and obviously
Speaker 2: have to have some sort of good relationship for the children,
Speaker 2: and so it is nice to see that they are
Speaker 2: getting along and being able to co parent in this way. Unfortunately,
Speaker 2: I feel like I'm quite a petty person, and I
Speaker 2: don't think that I could build myself up enough to
Speaker 2: go and have dinner with my ex partner's new nineteen
Speaker 2: year old girlfriend. Kate, you've been in some awkward situations
Speaker 2: recently because you keep getting invited to events that.
Speaker 1: You're with your fiance. Now your fiance X is that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well she hasn't turned up to any of them,
Speaker 3: So I feel like that's kind of speaks volumes that
Speaker 3: you know you don't want to be there because she's
Speaker 3: moved on and got a new partner, but you just
Speaker 3: I think that's just an awkward thing that no one
Speaker 3: really wants.
Speaker 2: You just want to pretend that person doesn't exist.
Speaker 3: It is I mean, this isn't This isn't a first
Speaker 3: for Courtney and Scott though, because I was watching an
Speaker 3: old series of The Kardashian that was on nine now and.
Speaker 2: Courtney invited was it Sofia Richie on the holiday? Recent
Speaker 2: X on a holiday?
Speaker 3: And it was funny because it was Sofia Richie that
Speaker 3: was feeling left out, And I can kind of see
Speaker 3: how you would feel left out if you've got, like,
Speaker 3: you know, the former couple and their kids. It does
Speaker 3: act add an extra element with the new partner, so
Speaker 3: at least they were sort of on even footings at THEATA.
Speaker 2: I actually do feel really sorry for the nineteen year
Speaker 2: old girl in a sense because could you imagine going
Speaker 2: to this dinner where there's three people who were so
Speaker 2: much more famous than you, they're older than you, they're
Speaker 2: probably a bit more sophisticated than you, and you're there
Speaker 2: awkwardly having to try and think of something to say sorry.
Speaker 2: Do you actually think Scott Dissicc's sophisticated. Well a bit
Speaker 2: younger than Courtney Kardashian too. But you know what is
Speaker 2: about Courtney Kardashian. She's friends with Addison Ray, the TikToker star. Yeah,
Speaker 2: TikTok star. So you know, isn't she about twenty two?
Speaker 2: So I feel like Courtney does have a bit in
Speaker 2: common with twenty year olds. Well, age is just a
Speaker 2: number at the end of the day. But I just
Speaker 2: feel it is a very awkward situation. I remember my
Speaker 2: boyfriend told me that he was actually versing my ex
Speaker 2: boyfriend at football. Oh my gosh, And it was such
Speaker 2: a sensational situation because sometimes I do thrive off those
Speaker 2: sort of situations, you know, when you're a fly on
Speaker 2: the battle. I was not allowed to attend the football game.
Speaker 2: Is that because you do in those situations?
Speaker 1: Probably?
Speaker 2: Do? You know what though?
Speaker 3: I think it depends if you are the winner or
Speaker 3: the loser out of the relationship, And to me, Scott
Speaker 3: Distick's kind of the loser. Like it's quite clear that
Speaker 3: Courtney kind of kicked him out of home, and so
Speaker 3: I feel like he is on a lower level somewhat.
Speaker 3: So I feel like if you're the winner in the
Speaker 3: relationship and you've probably dumped the person, then you probably
Speaker 3: couldn't give a shit if you're seeing and you know,
Speaker 3: if you see them at an event where it's more
Speaker 3: the person that's been dumped. But words feel funny because
Speaker 3: because at the end of the day, the person that's
Speaker 3: dumped still as a part of them that would want
Speaker 3: to be yeah, the person that dumped them.
Speaker 2: But that's what's awkward as well, because the new series
Speaker 2: of the Kardashians is out and Scott very much wants
Speaker 2: to get back with Courtney. But I would love to
Speaker 2: hear what everybody else thinks. We're gonna put a thread
Speaker 2: in our outspoken Facebook community, So tell us, would you
Speaker 2: go on a double date with your ex dud?
Speaker 4: Okay, totally, Okay, I'm sorry. It must be the pressure
Speaker 4: of entertaining. I think everyone would feel better if.
Speaker 1: We had some flying influencers.
Speaker 2: Sophie Kasha and Emmy lu McCarthy have been slammed for
Speaker 2: fleeing Melbourne lockdown. The pair have been labeled tone deaf,
Speaker 2: entitled and privileged after they escaped to Perth just before
Speaker 2: Western Australia shut at Sports with Victoria Kate. What is
Speaker 2: the reasoning behind their departures.
Speaker 3: Well, the pair left Melbourne under the guys that they
Speaker 3: are appearing as guest speakers at a Perth event called
Speaker 3: Sip and Socials. The event's being held at Perth Luxury
Speaker 3: Ritz Carlton Hotel on Saturday, Dune the fifth, So the
Speaker 3: Sip and Socials events actually currently touring Australia and there
Speaker 3: is an event held in Brisbane and April. So the
Speaker 3: likes of influencers like Steph Pace, Faith Williams, Kelly Howard
Speaker 3: and Jessica Wilson all appeared a special guest at this event.
Speaker 3: So originally this Perth event was meant to be held
Speaker 3: in Perth on Saturday the twentieth of March, but ironically
Speaker 3: it was postponed due to COVID. So this time around
Speaker 3: they've sold four hundred tickets, which is the maximum tickets
Speaker 3: they can sell, and each ticket costs a ridiculous two
Speaker 3: hundred and forty nine dollars, So if you look at
Speaker 3: the ticket revenue alone, this event is already raising ninety
Speaker 3: nine thousand, six hundred dollars.
Speaker 2: What's really clear here that the organizers are set to
Speaker 2: make a lot of money for this event. If you're
Speaker 2: spending two hundred and forty nine dollars on a ticket,
Speaker 2: you're going to hope that the special guests and influencers
Speaker 2: are actually there to attend. Yeah, exactly right, And I
Speaker 2: think this is why there has been a push to
Speaker 2: keep the event going. So guests attending the networking event
Speaker 2: have been told that they will hear from real, genuine
Speaker 2: women who are successful influencers and entrepreneurs that have built
Speaker 2: their own six figure brand. So it really seems like
Speaker 2: your typical influencer event. Guests are invited to get glam
Speaker 2: for the gram and they're promised the best goodie bag
Speaker 2: on the planet.
Speaker 3: Included in that two hundred and forty nine dollars ticket
Speaker 3: price are drinks, a food station, grazing tables, business market stalls,
Speaker 3: and also a one hour live panel Q and A
Speaker 3: with Sophi, Kasha and Emmy Lou and as of course.
Speaker 2: That gooody bag. Yeah, and a bit of COVID maybe beside.
Speaker 3: So yeah, so, Sophie, can you tell us about who
Speaker 3: is organizing this event? Because this person has actually been
Speaker 3: dragged into the drama. Well, they've actually kind of made
Speaker 3: themselves the center of this drama.
Speaker 2: So the organizer of this event is Emma Williams, who
Speaker 2: is the founder of socially m so. She describes herself
Speaker 2: as an entrepreneur and the brains behind three successful six
Speaker 2: figure businesses. Now I haven't even attended this event, but
Speaker 2: I'm already feeling a bit sick over the constant mention
Speaker 2: of these six figure businesses. I kind of feel like
Speaker 2: it's a bit of a dick measure in competition at
Speaker 2: the moment over who has the most successful business.
Speaker 3: Well, I feel like Sam Mangan's always got a very
Speaker 3: good approach to these people, and he always says like, well,
Speaker 3: if these people are so successful, why are they holding
Speaker 3: like networking events, Like, wouldn't you just be working in
Speaker 3: your business?
Speaker 1: That's right.
Speaker 2: I love how it's never like, oh I run a
Speaker 2: successful five figure business.
Speaker 1: It's never alwasn six Well, that's a bit more impressive.
Speaker 2: Well. Emma shared on her Instagram story that Sophie and
Speaker 2: Emmy Lou would not be missing the show despite the
Speaker 2: lockdown and border closes. So she confirmed that they had
Speaker 2: undergone COVID nineteen ten, which have come back as negative.
Speaker 2: So she wrote online, we had to postpone the event
Speaker 2: in March because of the COVID lockdown, so we acted
Speaker 2: really quickly this time.
Speaker 1: I had this.
Speaker 2: Idea for them to jump on a plane the moment
Speaker 2: we heard anything to do with the COVID situation in Melbourne.
Speaker 2: So they took me up on the crazy idea and
Speaker 2: they are here in Perth. They've had negative tests and
Speaker 2: they are good to go for the next weekend. So
Speaker 2: there were a lot of questions following this post over
Speaker 2: whether Sophie and Emmy Lou should actually be in quarantine
Speaker 2: at the moment. Emma responded to this saying, no, they
Speaker 2: arrived before the COVID outbreak in Melbourne and have been
Speaker 2: in Perth for a while. They have followed all the
Speaker 2: requirements by the Health and Premier Department, So k can
Speaker 2: you tell us when did they actually arrive in Perth?
Speaker 2: Is what Emma's saying.
Speaker 3: Correct Well, the timings are a little bit sketchy, but
Speaker 3: they are important in determining whether Sophie and emmylu have
Speaker 3: complied with the government rules. So Victoria's acting Premier May
Speaker 3: the announcement at seven point thirty on Thursday morning on
Speaker 3: the twenty seventh of May that the seven days circuit
Speaker 3: breaker lockdown would be in full effect as of eleven
Speaker 3: to fifty nine pm that night, so as of recording, sadly,
Speaker 3: the lockdown has been extended by a further seven days. However,
Speaker 3: at that time it was only seven days. So on
Speaker 3: the first official day of Victoria's lockdown, on Friday, the
Speaker 3: twenty eighth of May, Sophie shared a picture to her
Speaker 3: Instagram story of the view outside her hotel room at
Speaker 3: the Ritz Carlton in Perth, and she wrote, thank you
Speaker 3: so much for the socially M team and the incredibly
Speaker 3: accommodating staff at the Ritz Carlton Perth for making the
Speaker 3: last few very chaotic days easier for myself and the kids.
Speaker 3: Nothing like spontaneously packing at two am. Right, we will
Speaker 3: all test at the airport yesterday and are all negative.
Speaker 2: So based on that.
Speaker 3: Post, it's quite confusing as to when Sophie actually arrived
Speaker 3: in Perth. So while she thanked the event organizer and
Speaker 3: the hotel for making her last few days easier, she
Speaker 3: did say she packed at two am, which to me
Speaker 3: is signals it was the very last minute decision, particularly
Speaker 3: with socially M saying well hang on as soon as
Speaker 3: we heard of any COVID lockdowns, we rushed them onto
Speaker 3: the plane.
Speaker 2: So as for Emmy Lou, she claims.
Speaker 3: That she didn't share with her followers her travel plans
Speaker 3: to Perth because she was actually surprising her family members.
Speaker 3: Now to me, this doesn't really make sense because they
Speaker 3: were aware of the event coming up, so you know,
Speaker 3: are they really going to be that surprised that she's
Speaker 3: suddenly in Perth.
Speaker 2: Well, it was obviously part of socially m's crisis management
Speaker 2: plan to have the pair flown over if there was
Speaker 2: any mention of COVID, because Sophie does mention that she
Speaker 2: was spontaneously packing at two am. And it's just odd
Speaker 2: to me that they mentioned this all over social media
Speaker 2: because I don't know if they expected the backlash that
Speaker 2: they have received.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, the thing is, at the end of the day,
Speaker 3: it does appear like they haven't actually broken any of
Speaker 3: the government rules because on Friday, the Western Australian Government
Speaker 3: announced that anyone who arrived from Victoria between Sunday, the
Speaker 3: sixteenth of May and ten am on Thursday, the twenty
Speaker 3: seventh needs to present for a COVID nineteen test and
Speaker 3: within the next forty eight hours remain in self quarantine
Speaker 3: until they receive a negative result. So it appears that's
Speaker 3: what Sophie and Emmy Lou have done. However, there is
Speaker 3: contention around the fact that Emmy Lou actually lives in
Speaker 3: Port Melbourne. So there were two exposure sites in Port Melbourne,
Speaker 3: and if you were in these exposure sites, and you
Speaker 3: have to quarantine for fourteen days if you are visiting
Speaker 3: Western Australia. So I'm not saying that she definitely was
Speaker 3: at those exposure sites. She has said she was not,
Speaker 3: but there are question marks considering that she lives very
Speaker 3: close to these exposure sites.
Speaker 2: Well, they just managed to get in last minute, didn't they.
Speaker 2: It's almost like a bit of a loophole kind of situation.
Speaker 2: The organizers would have known because we've seen people locked
Speaker 2: out of states in the past during these circuit breaker lockdowns.
Speaker 2: We know that if you travel, you know, right at
Speaker 2: the last minute, you might be able to make it
Speaker 2: in without having to do the.
Speaker 1: Fourteen day quarantine.
Speaker 2: And obviously they haven't done anything wrong legally, but I
Speaker 2: think people are questioning whether morally it's okay for them
Speaker 2: to have done that.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and there are so many people that are
Speaker 3: really unhappy with Sophie and Emmy loose decision, particularly Victorians,
Speaker 3: and I don't blame them at all. I would be
Speaker 3: absolutely furious if I saw these influencers who obviously have
Speaker 3: a lot of privilege to be able to afford to
Speaker 3: just jump on this flight. And yes it's paid by
Speaker 3: the event company. I just feel like it's not a
Speaker 3: good look to be seen fleeing a lockdown, especially when
Speaker 3: you were then promoting your pajama brand. So, for those
Speaker 3: who don't know Sophie Kesha, she has a very successful
Speaker 3: range of pajamas and it seems like she's actually using
Speaker 3: the COVID situation to actually benefit from So she had
Speaker 3: an interview in the Sydney Morning Herald and it actually
Speaker 3: came out on Wednesday, which I didn't think was great
Speaker 3: time for her, considering the bad press she's been getting
Speaker 3: around this fleeing lockdown situation. So she actually said, look,
Speaker 3: last year, I really wanted to be mindful of being
Speaker 3: sensitive around COVID, as I knew the hardship people were
Speaker 3: facing in the workforce. But in a time where everyone
Speaker 3: was home and not spending money on winter boots and jackets,
Speaker 3: they were all spending it on pjs. In one night,
Speaker 3: we sold over seven thousand pairs. So Keaisha had a
Speaker 3: fantastic year and has really set us up in a
Speaker 3: great position moving forward.
Speaker 2: Now. As I said, this didn't really sit well with me.
Speaker 2: And then she went on to actually send out an
Speaker 2: email to her database during the most recent lockdown, and
Speaker 2: the email was entitled a gift for you, and the
Speaker 2: email read because of the news today in Victoria, we've
Speaker 2: decided to offer free shipping Australia wide until Thursday, the
Speaker 2: third of June. Please note there may be some delays
Speaker 2: in shipping during these times. Now, I find it hard
Speaker 2: to believe that this was sent as a good will gesture.
Speaker 2: Considering that she has run out on lockdown and also
Speaker 2: she's claimed that she earned seven thousand she sold seven
Speaker 2: thousand dollars during lockdown. It seems like a very business
Speaker 2: driven decision to me. I will be very interested to
Speaker 2: see how many pajamas she does actually sell through the skimmick,
Speaker 2: because I don't believe it will be as many. I
Speaker 2: think there's a lot of bad pr around Sophie Kasha.
Speaker 2: At the moment, I I was a small business owner
Speaker 2: and I was looking on to see that these two
Speaker 2: women had fled a lockdown situation and I was having
Speaker 2: to close my business down for two weeks. Yet they
Speaker 2: are in a situation where they're able to make a
Speaker 2: shit ton of money by speaking an event. I would
Speaker 2: be absolutely furious and thinking this is really unfair. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think people are still pissed off at Sophie Kesha
Speaker 2: for breaking lockdown rules on multiple occasions last Lockdown. So
Speaker 2: this seeing her gallivanting around Perth, I mean she was
Speaker 2: at a nude yoga class the other day and promoting
Speaker 2: the brand, you know, the yoga company. I mean she's
Speaker 2: getting obviously paid for that, and as I said, we've
Speaker 2: got no issue with her getting money, but I just
Speaker 2: think it's extremely tone death and it's not really a
Speaker 2: good branding exercise for her. I mean, her brand of
Speaker 2: pajamas is named after her, so, as you said, it
Speaker 2: will be interesting to see if her behavior has any
Speaker 2: effect on sales.
Speaker 1: Don't you think though?
Speaker 2: It's a kind of a bad look for the event
Speaker 2: as well, because while they haven't broken any rules, people
Speaker 2: are really angry about it. And I think it goes
Speaker 2: back to people's changing minds about influencers and how we
Speaker 2: view them since the pandemic. I think people are just
Speaker 2: getting more and more annoyed at influencers and we're seeing
Speaker 2: even we're even seeing in Adelaide in terms of all
Speaker 2: the AFL footballers from Collingwood are allowed into the state.
Speaker 2: It seems like there's this hierarchy and normal people aren't
Speaker 2: allowed to move around. But if you're an influencer, a
Speaker 2: footy player, go ahead, you can go visit anywhere you want.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, And I think that's what's pierced a lot
Speaker 3: of people off. And you know what, like, while they
Speaker 3: may have done a COVID test, the Melbourne situation is
Speaker 3: constantly evolving. So many new exposure sites are popping up,
Speaker 3: and COVID has an incubation period of fourteen days. So
Speaker 3: what happens if Sophie Kasia and Emmylou do end up
Speaker 3: getting COVID and they go on to infect four hundred
Speaker 3: people at this event? I mean that would shut Perth
Speaker 3: down for months.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and what about that? With technology? Could they not
Speaker 2: have been on Zoom or something. Surely there was some
Speaker 2: kind of backup plan rather than flying.
Speaker 3: All Surely Perth, surely Perth has some influences that actually
Speaker 3: live there that could be a part of the event.
Speaker 3: Like the Brisbane event, they were all Brisbane based influences
Speaker 3: to my knowledge, so surely Perth has some influences that
Speaker 3: could have stood in. Can I just say I'd be
Speaker 3: trying to keep a bit of a low profile if
Speaker 3: it was them, as you said, I wouldn't want to
Speaker 3: be gallivanting around too much as they've been doing and
Speaker 3: putting things publicly on Instagram.
Speaker 2: But yeah, especially if your Sophiicacia, because she has probably
Speaker 2: been one of the most controversial influences during this lockdown
Speaker 2: and COVID period here in Australia. She's constantly slammed. She
Speaker 2: has been constantly slammed by celeb spelcheck for breaking the rules,
Speaker 2: So this is one where you think maybe she would
Speaker 2: have just stayed in place and not had to put
Speaker 2: up with the raff of it all. So while Sophie,
Speaker 2: Kasia and Emmy Lou have managed to flee Melbourne, there
Speaker 2: are a lot of influencers who didn't actually get their
Speaker 2: flight quick enough. So the timing of Melbourne's lockdown has
Speaker 2: been particularly bad for the influencer world. With Fashion Week
Speaker 2: in sydneya this week, so twins Marissa and Rebecca, who
Speaker 2: run popular Instagram page Twice Blessed. They revealed they actually
Speaker 2: had to cancel their plans to come to Sydney. So
Speaker 2: they had planned to fly out to Sydney on a
Speaker 2: six thirty pm flight on Thursday night, but canceled after
Speaker 2: New South Wales announced anyone coming from Melbourne would still
Speaker 2: need to follow lockdown orders. They took to their Instagram
Speaker 2: story to say what a kick in the guts it
Speaker 2: had been. So they said, going to fashion Week isn't
Speaker 2: just a flashy time to show off, nor is it
Speaker 2: wanky or out of touch. It's our job.
Speaker 3: The income and potential income generated from fashion Week sustains
Speaker 3: us financially for months, just as we were rebuilding financially
Speaker 3: after the horror that was twenty twenty and spending all
Speaker 3: this money to get to Sydney.
Speaker 2: It's gun rich. It's gut wrenching to be in this
Speaker 2: position again. There was also another fashion influencer, Christi who
Speaker 2: and she posted on Instagram story that she was rushing
Speaker 2: around packing her bags to get to Sydney, and she
Speaker 2: actually had to delete the story because it was causing
Speaker 2: so much backlash.
Speaker 3: Do you guys feel sorry for these influencers who are
Speaker 3: missing out on Sydney Fashion Week. I definitely do have
Speaker 3: some sympathy for them, because at the end of the day,
Speaker 3: for influencers, it is their career and it is their
Speaker 3: way that they do make money, particularly for a lot
Speaker 3: of these fashion influencers who do really take it seriously.
Speaker 1: So I do feel sorry for.
Speaker 2: Anyone who has had to endure the lockdowns that have
Speaker 2: been going on in Victoria this year and last year,
Speaker 2: because it would just be absolutely awful. I do feel
Speaker 2: sorry for them if it is affecting their livelihood. Then again,
Speaker 2: there are so many other people who are being affected
Speaker 2: in far worse circumstances. There are people who are missing
Speaker 2: out on attending loved ones funerals, there are people missing
Speaker 2: out on visiting sick relatives. So there are lots of
Speaker 2: other cases where people are far worse off.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's horrible, as you said, that they
Speaker 3: are losing their income, and for me, that's actually a
Speaker 3: very serious thing because you know, you guys work in
Speaker 3: pr You've experienced having jobs canceled, so that no one
Speaker 3: thinks that's great. I think the issue for me here
Speaker 3: is fact that they that these influencers are trying to
Speaker 3: quickly flee Melbourne, And to me that is kind of
Speaker 3: very like. It's the whole point is if you think
Speaker 3: that you may have been in a hot spot, you
Speaker 3: need to stay in Melbourne, like even though you can
Speaker 3: get through these loopholes.
Speaker 2: And travel like, it's sort of not the best thing
Speaker 2: to do, exactly. It's like travel in general. It's like,
Speaker 2: should we really be traveling around during a pandemic? Well,
Speaker 2: talking about travel, did you guys see influencer Taylor Winterstein
Speaker 2: and her husband whose former NRL Frankie Winterstein. They have
Speaker 2: caused huge outrage because they were publicly.
Speaker 3: Defying wearing masks on their flight back from Melbourne to Sydney.
Speaker 2: To be honest, I have never heard of either of them,
Speaker 2: but then again I'm not a huge NRL fan. Well.
Speaker 3: Taylor is well known for her anti vax stance and
Speaker 3: she has run a wellness program called taz Way since
Speaker 3: twenty fourteen. She has been heavily criticized in several South
Speaker 3: Pacific and Australasian countries for her anti vaccination rhetoric, and
Speaker 3: she's held seminars that have been called irresponsible by the
Speaker 3: Australian Medical Association. And she's even been called a public
Speaker 3: health threat. Now, Taylor continues to claim that she does
Speaker 3: not encourage non vaccination, but rather informed consent and.
Speaker 2: Freedom of choice.
Speaker 3: So on Monday, the twenty fourth of May, just before
Speaker 3: Melbourne went into lockdown, Taylor shared a photo of her
Speaker 3: and her husband not wearing a mask on the plane.
Speaker 3: She captured the post peacefully flying to Melbourne and back
Speaker 3: mask free because we have a medical exemption and it's
Speaker 3: called we are allergic to bullshit. We were the ones.
Speaker 3: We were the only ones on the plane breathing unrestricted,
Speaker 3: So much easier advocating for your rights when flying in
Speaker 3: your own country and speaking English. This pissed me off
Speaker 3: so much because it gets even worse. It ends up
Speaker 3: that these guys were posting basically where they were going
Speaker 3: on their trip to Melbourne, and they actually were in
Speaker 3: two hotspots. So they visited a restaurant in Brunswick, which
Speaker 3: is Brunswick is actually considered a Tier two hot spot,
Speaker 3: so basically you're told you have to get tested and
Speaker 3: isolate until you have your results. And they were also
Speaker 3: in Prana House in Thornberry. Now thorn Perry is considered
Speaker 3: a Tier one exposure site, So you're meant to get
Speaker 3: tested and quarantined. For fourteen days now they have not
Speaker 3: been quarantining. And they went on a flight with no mask.
Speaker 1: Oh my, this is the thing.
Speaker 2: It takes one fuck quit to ruin it for everyone else.
Speaker 1: I just think this is the.
Speaker 2: Most selfish thing you could do. I mean, I'm sorry,
Speaker 2: how difficult is it to just whack a mask on? So?
Speaker 2: Can I ask? Were they unaware? So they were traveling
Speaker 2: before all of the lockdown was mentioned.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So they were traveling on the Monday, and the
Speaker 3: state went into lockdown at twelve eleven fifty nine on Thursday,
Speaker 3: so there was definitely signs that there were COVID cases happening.
Speaker 3: And of course, you know, people have to try when
Speaker 3: they're traveling on a plane, you have to wear a mask.
Speaker 3: So they have actually believe said that they haven't they
Speaker 3: needed a medical exemption when they don't. And they went
Speaker 3: on to say that that medical medical exemption was that
Speaker 3: they don't believe in bullshit?
Speaker 2: Don't I show you how important it is to wear
Speaker 2: a mask on a plane though, the fact that they
Speaker 2: were at these two exposure sites and they're all calling
Speaker 2: it bullshit on their insta stories. Well, it's just shut
Speaker 2: down Melbourne, so it's clearly not bullshit.
Speaker 1: We'll just wrap things up.
Speaker 2: I am so interested to see how the event with Sophie,
Speaker 2: Keasia and Emilu is going to unfold. On Saturday night,
Speaker 2: they are having a Q and A, so I do
Speaker 2: wonder whether they are going to have questions about COVID.
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