Speaker 1: Hey, Legends walking back to the Mason cockshow a lot
Speaker 1: to cover on this one. There is a Brownlow favorite
Speaker 1: that might be losing his chance of winning the whole
Speaker 1: thing we're gonna talk about.
Speaker 2: Also, Dimma dropped an a F bomb. Whoa.
Speaker 1: That was a bit of a story this week. And
Speaker 1: also there's a few injuries we need to go through
Speaker 1: because the league is seeing a few go down. We're
Speaker 1: going to get into that much much more starting on
Speaker 1: the podcast right now.
Speaker 2: All right, Legends, We've got a big episode.
Speaker 1: So starting off as we always do, welcome Brandon.
Speaker 3: I want to jump into my clanger because this week
Speaker 3: I'm clanging myself, so ripped the band aid office talk.
Speaker 2: Trash all last week or a fresh one.
Speaker 4: I went pretty hard last week.
Speaker 3: I've had the flu, so I don't know if you
Speaker 3: might be able to hear me wheezing over here, but
Speaker 3: I reckon I can blame that for last week's aggression.
Speaker 3: It was very aggressive. This week, I'm bringing the zen
Speaker 3: a lot more positivity. So I clang myself because last
Speaker 3: week I said Saint Kilda was the most boring ticket
Speaker 3: in town. I heard you, yeah, and then they came
Speaker 3: out and beat Sydneys Ones by two points in what
Speaker 3: was quite the blockbuster holding on. But I will say
Speaker 3: a bit of like defending myself, and it's similar. I'll
Speaker 3: put them in the same boat. We've got a boat,
Speaker 3: and we're going to put them in the boat, and
Speaker 3: we're going to put Freemantle in the boat and say,
Speaker 3: look at this, look at this.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: When you play exciting fast footy, you win, and it's
Speaker 3: a much more enjoyable game. People buy the tickets. It's
Speaker 3: an entertainment sport. We all go along, we're all happy.
Speaker 3: When you play the other shit that you play sad, slow, depressing,
Speaker 3: defensive crap, you don't win and no one's enjoying it.
Speaker 3: So let's just we'll play fast, We'll play exciting. I'll
Speaker 3: get behind Saint Kilda. I'm always behind Freeman. I love
Speaker 3: the Purple Mist or whatever the hell they are.
Speaker 2: The Purple miss love it out there, the.
Speaker 4: Old heave ho.
Speaker 3: But yeah, so I'm clanging myself for saying that the
Speaker 3: most boring ticket in town if they play like they
Speaker 3: played on the weekend, Yeah, sign me up.
Speaker 4: I'm getting a ticket. I'm going down there.
Speaker 2: The membership.
Speaker 4: I don't I don't like those to the.
Speaker 3: Foot I like watching in the safe space of my
Speaker 3: own little house.
Speaker 2: But cracking vbs O, the people will.
Speaker 3: Start going and it'll be good anyway. What's your clanger
Speaker 3: this week?
Speaker 1: No, I must preface this with I do have a
Speaker 1: massive amount of love and respect for cheer squads around
Speaker 1: the league, not just calling Woods cheer squads, but.
Speaker 2: Everyone, because what are you doing?
Speaker 1: They do a fantastic job, whether it be carrying those
Speaker 1: big pom poms that make no damn sense, behind the
Speaker 1: calls that looks like it's one hundred years old, we're
Speaker 1: making custom signs. There's some beautiful things I do right,
Speaker 1: but there's one sign in general that they've kind of
Speaker 1: messed up here and there and over the weekend. I
Speaker 1: hate to call them out, but the Richmond Tigers cheer
Speaker 1: squad a little bit of a debacle with their banner,
Speaker 1: you could say. Now, don't get me wrong, rainy day,
Speaker 1: bit of wind, not great for a banner, right.
Speaker 2: Not especially something that's made of paper, right. Not great.
Speaker 2: Over the weekend though, it was just scattered.
Speaker 1: It looked like a chess board by the time they
Speaker 1: had kind of gotten out there and we're about to
Speaker 1: run through it and I think everyone has a bit confused.
Speaker 2: Not we've had this experience.
Speaker 1: Run twenty eighteen, we had a you know, it's a
Speaker 1: very famous banner that just disintegrated the middle of air
Speaker 1: and you know, Bucks was kind enough to hug the
Speaker 1: cheer squad member and you know, a very lovely experience.
Speaker 2: Obviously, I was a bit confused.
Speaker 1: We're walking out thinking, oh, maybe we're doing a combined
Speaker 1: one or something. I'm not really sure that one pretty
Speaker 1: big ban on that one. Yeah, we got it right
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty three though, you don't worry about that.
Speaker 1: But yeah, that's that's gonna be my clanger of the week.
Speaker 1: It's a it's a it's a love love thing, right.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to put it enough a lot about there,
Speaker 1: just because I know it's a it's not an easy
Speaker 1: thingcause a lot of people are giving their their free
Speaker 1: time to make these things. And we appreciate them as players,
Speaker 1: we really do. I still kind of think it's funny
Speaker 1: they grown in run through a banner be four game
Speaker 1: and seeing with Whims school tune after in a whole huddle.
Speaker 2: But we're going to move on to that.
Speaker 1: We're going to move on from that and get into
Speaker 1: the results, because there's plenty of I'll go on a
Speaker 1: ramble about, but let's go straight into the games.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 3: I was going to be nice this week, and you've
Speaker 3: already come out and clang the nice people that give
Speaker 3: up their free time to make the create paper banner.
Speaker 5: Did you not hear my preface, which means I could
Speaker 5: say after.
Speaker 3: It, Yeah, don't get offended. That's one of those ones.
Speaker 3: Don't get offended. But na results this week, we'll skip
Speaker 3: over the Collingwood game. North Melbourne got the win over
Speaker 3: your Gold Coast sons. We'll have to talk about that
Speaker 3: because Dimmer wasn't happy. Port Melbourne absolutely demolished the Western Bulldogs.
Speaker 4: Port Melbourne Football Club.
Speaker 3: Port Melbourne Football Club might have beaten the Western Bulldogs
Speaker 3: given what they dished up for Port Adelaide back on
Speaker 3: their winning ways.
Speaker 4: Geelong beat Hawthorne.
Speaker 3: That was that was a big win because I thought,
Speaker 3: you know, Hawthorne might have got there. GWS got the
Speaker 3: chocolates against Carlton, but it looks, you know, a bit
Speaker 3: touch and go Freemantle.
Speaker 4: Big win over Richmond.
Speaker 3: Expected that Melbourne got the chocolates over West Coast, big win.
Speaker 3: Expected that Saint Kildom, most exciting ticket in town, got
Speaker 3: the dub over the Sydney Swans, and Brisbane got the
Speaker 3: job done against Adelaide.
Speaker 4: But Adelaide, you know, they took.
Speaker 3: The fight up to him. So what are the big
Speaker 3: talking points. Well, we can't go past Isaac Heeney and
Speaker 3: his little backfist to Jimmy Webster. Now, Jimmy Webster has
Speaker 3: had his own indiscretions, so you think you might get
Speaker 3: a free pass for that one, but no, you can't
Speaker 3: hit anyone. So it's not a tit for tit for tat? Yeah,
Speaker 3: can I can I say? Can I say tit? On
Speaker 3: the podcast this earlier we're going to get demonetized. Fut
Speaker 3: let's jump into it because you know, it is what
Speaker 3: it is at the moment where we stand, and as
Speaker 3: we're recording this, he's got one week. No doubt they'll
Speaker 3: challenge that one. But as we've seen in the past,
Speaker 3: these Brownlow medalists normally get a favorable decision when it's
Speaker 3: taken to the tribunal. Do you feel like that's an
Speaker 3: actual tangible thing. Do brown Low favorites get looked after
Speaker 3: when they take it to the tribune.
Speaker 2: I think what will happen.
Speaker 1: Most likely is the team will do anything and everything
Speaker 1: within their power to try to change it. So you
Speaker 1: talk about like going to the m RO right, they
Speaker 1: definitely challenged that, and then you know they might challenge
Speaker 1: the challenge. I'm not sure how many times you can
Speaker 1: do this, but I've seen it before in the past
Speaker 1: where somehow you can get legal people involved and then
Speaker 1: challenge the challenge from a perspective of that, and then
Speaker 1: someone else gets involved. So you know, it's a massive
Speaker 1: ordeal to have a Brown Law medalist play at your
Speaker 1: club and be able to have a season like he's having.
Speaker 1: So I think from their standpoint, they're going to do
Speaker 1: anything and everything in their capabilities to make sure that
Speaker 1: he doesn't get a week do. I think probably, based
Speaker 1: on other situations that have happened this year, the AFL's
Speaker 1: ruling would probably be adjudicate a week and that's what
Speaker 1: they've decided. So I think that's pretty on brand. But
Speaker 1: you know, we've seen these things happen. It's going to
Speaker 1: be an interesting little MRO case. It was he kind
Speaker 1: of swung back and then apologized right away. He kind
Speaker 1: of he knew he'd done stuffed up. Yeah, he knew it.
Speaker 2: As soon as he did it, he was like, ah shit.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: He looked down as to almost be like, oh, can
Speaker 3: I help you up? I also need to go get
Speaker 3: the footy at the same time he did.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he kicked the goal. It was an important goal.
Speaker 3: So the first thing that always pops to my mind
Speaker 3: in these circumstances are the Patrick Crips situation.
Speaker 1: But that was like Carlton's They need to hark Carlton's lawyer.
Speaker 1: That's the number one thing they should be doing, is
Speaker 1: Colent and that guy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so maybe it's a bit of favoritism, but maybe
Speaker 3: it's also teams try extra hard when they're there. Absolute
Speaker 3: marquee players need to be getting off.
Speaker 4: So it's a wait and see on that one.
Speaker 3: But normally the thing that rolls out of these circumstances
Speaker 3: are they will get off. Inevitably, these Brownlow favorites will
Speaker 3: get off, and then it turns into a bit of
Speaker 3: a shambles down the line because a plan not in
Speaker 3: contention for the Brownlow will pretty much do the identical
Speaker 3: thing and get rubbed out for weeks.
Speaker 4: So I think just stand by.
Speaker 3: For that because it's it's it's not really, it's always inevitability.
Speaker 4: There's no exception to the rule. It's always it happens.
Speaker 3: You'll watch next week, someone will have a backswinging and
Speaker 3: it'll be you know, the same thing all over again.
Speaker 3: But I think out of these because we've had you know,
Speaker 3: Harley Reid, We've had Sam Darcy be rubbed out for
Speaker 3: the contention for the Rising Star. We've got Heni now
Speaker 3: temporarily rubbed out at least for the Brown Low. Do
Speaker 3: you think we should keep the fairest elements to all
Speaker 3: of these awards and medals or should we be removing
Speaker 3: that so we get the you know, the truest definition
Speaker 3: of the best player, and the best young player gets
Speaker 3: the award even if they've been rubbed out for a
Speaker 3: week or two.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean there's two other awards you look at.
Speaker 1: It's like the coaches MVP and the AFL players MVP. Right,
Speaker 1: So it's I'm voted on by the players and voted
Speaker 1: on by the coaches, And I wish those were held
Speaker 1: with you know, a bit of a more respect in
Speaker 1: that sense, you know, because I think like obviously everyone
Speaker 1: looks to the brown and says, oh, that's the best player.
Speaker 1: You know, but whenever you're adjudicated by your peers and
Speaker 1: opposition coaches in that sense, and you're decided to be
Speaker 1: the best player, I feel like that has a bit
Speaker 1: more pool and a lot more legitimacy in a sense
Speaker 1: of a player's mind because you look at I mean,
Speaker 1: I've said this before as like umpires, you know, hopefully
Speaker 1: they're umpiring, not adjudicating who's the best player on the field, right,
Speaker 1: And I think the fairest part I understand, Like I
Speaker 1: totally get that. I've always been a fan of you know,
Speaker 1: the best part of a best in fairest should be
Speaker 1: an independent review panel, whether it be made up of
Speaker 1: people from the media, whether it be made up of
Speaker 1: people that you know are involved in football, wherever it is.
Speaker 1: But I think the fairest part should be umpires, and
Speaker 1: there should be maybe the head of umpiring should be
Speaker 1: adjudicating whether or not someone suspended.
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe that's a bit smarter.
Speaker 1: Someone that's actually making the rules and upholding them within
Speaker 1: the game should probably be the person that's probably adjudicating
Speaker 1: whether someone should be suspended or not. But instead we
Speaker 1: choose this independent review panel who I don't even think
Speaker 1: anyone really knows who's made up of and they decide
Speaker 1: whether or not a player was malicious and a certain act. Right,
Speaker 1: So I find it interesting that that's the way it's
Speaker 1: adjudicated here. I've never quite understood or like really gotten
Speaker 1: why they do it that way. But I always thought
Speaker 1: the umpire should deal with the fairest and then the
Speaker 1: best part should be an independent review panel that's involved
Speaker 1: in the footy industry.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so what you're saying is instead of the MRO.
Speaker 3: Adjudicating like who should be suspended and who shouldn't, the
Speaker 3: umpires should be adjudicating who's getting suspended for what during
Speaker 3: the season.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think so.
Speaker 1: I think there's a head of umpiring that person should
Speaker 1: be looking at vision and everything else and seeing this
Speaker 1: stuff behind the play and stuff that people might get
Speaker 1: suspended for. Adjudicating that and if someone wants to challenge it,
Speaker 1: what does a challenge do? They go to a court case,
Speaker 1: which is the m RO to figure out whether or
Speaker 1: I should go. I don't know if that sounds too
Speaker 1: logical world. You know, it's something that I've always found
Speaker 1: in mad because you look at the MRO and how
Speaker 1: many people are involved. I've been to one of them myself,
Speaker 1: and the amount of people and lawyers that get involved
Speaker 1: in people that are not probably cheap per the hour.
Speaker 4: Tribunal.
Speaker 1: Yeah, sorry, the tribunal. I find it amazing. That's still
Speaker 1: the way and the most efficient way I think to
Speaker 1: be able to like, surely you just use someone that's
Speaker 1: hired within the AFL. You don't go and probably pay
Speaker 1: people an hourly ready to go be a judge on
Speaker 1: a fake court case about something that's happened in sport
Speaker 1: who isn't really involved in the sport anymore.
Speaker 4: It is so weird.
Speaker 2: It's such an odd way of it's like getting it together.
Speaker 4: It's like a fake little court case.
Speaker 2: It is a fake court case.
Speaker 4: That's weird.
Speaker 1: Like I went in there, like I didn't swear in
Speaker 1: whenever I went in, but I got treated as if
Speaker 1: I was a fucking criminal on that joint for two
Speaker 1: and a half hours. And we knew what it was
Speaker 1: going to be before we even got in there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and they told us the way it was going to
Speaker 1: end up, and we still had to go through two
Speaker 1: and a half hours of just absolutely getting reamed by
Speaker 1: some guy, yes, no questions, as if I had committed
Speaker 1: a murder.
Speaker 3: If it's a fake, they should at least give it
Speaker 3: the judge duty treatment, like you should have like a
Speaker 3: little famous judge in there with the hammer and the curls.
Speaker 3: And we turned it into a bit of a thing
Speaker 3: because I've been in like I was on the journal
Speaker 3: side of things, and you've got to sit out in
Speaker 3: that cold little hallway with your camera waiting for people
Speaker 3: to come out, and you have no idea how long
Speaker 3: it's going to take, and you're waiting because you want
Speaker 3: to just go and eat dinner and stuff.
Speaker 1: You got Tom Brown just like tweeting the whole thing
Speaker 1: out and you're like, what are we doing.
Speaker 4: Put a camera in there.
Speaker 5: It's not a real we don't need to follow real
Speaker 5: laws because it's not a real thing.
Speaker 4: That's so stupid, the whole thing so dumb.
Speaker 3: But anyway, we'll move on because we could talk about
Speaker 3: that all night. But Logan McDonald, this is unfortunate, but
Speaker 3: you know, he put himself in the right position, right place,
Speaker 3: for right time, just not the right result for him
Speaker 3: and the Sydneys Ones. But two weeks in a row
Speaker 3: he's had a chance to potentially win the game. One
Speaker 3: was after the siren last where he missed a point,
Speaker 3: missed a lot. He needed a point to draw goal
Speaker 3: to win. Missed the lot this week, a little bit closer,
Speaker 3: a little bit straighter, better kick got his point this week.
Speaker 2: Turn the positives. Yeah, he's just a very positive man.
Speaker 3: He needed the goal, though this week he couldn't get
Speaker 3: the points. He got the point, unfortunately, couldn't get his
Speaker 3: team across the line. Uh do you like that he was?
Speaker 3: He was pretty confident going back and having a crack
Speaker 3: at goal. Like what does that take mentally to be
Speaker 3: able to go back and try to shake those demons?
Speaker 1: The only the only way to shake those demons from
Speaker 1: the week before is to do it again. And like
Speaker 1: he got the opportunity and like unfortunately it didn't kind
Speaker 1: of pan out, but like the only way to shake demons,
Speaker 1: I think in that sense is you know, obviously practice
Speaker 1: getting comfortable in that stress, stressful scenario. But I mean
Speaker 1: it's it's back to back weeks. Like that's just like
Speaker 1: phenomenal to think that the same person is taking the
Speaker 1: same kick essentially on one week and then the very
Speaker 1: next week. So it was tough to see because you
Speaker 1: kind of want that feel good story of like, hey man,
Speaker 1: you had rough week last week, and you know you
Speaker 1: kicked it this week and you had an absolute gun
Speaker 1: and you know, unfortunately he was able to put it through.
Speaker 1: But you've got to look at things in a positive light, right,
Speaker 1: Like the fact that he was you know, did the
Speaker 1: work to be able to be given that chance and
Speaker 1: that circumstance and be able to try and win the
Speaker 1: game for your team is a positive within itself, you know.
Speaker 1: I think you've got to have that mentality and say, look,
Speaker 1: you know you can hit this shot. You know that's
Speaker 1: within your repertoire, and you're getting the opportunities. All it
Speaker 1: is just a matter of you're finishing and like I know,
Speaker 1: that's a lot easier said than done, but it's just
Speaker 1: repetition and feeluncomfortable on your skim whenever you're in that
Speaker 1: high pressure situation.
Speaker 4: It was cool that he took the shot.
Speaker 3: Hopefully, I think Horse said one day he'll get it
Speaker 3: and he'll kick it and he'll be able to feel
Speaker 3: good about him and.
Speaker 2: The boys will lose their mind so nuts, I'll love it,
Speaker 2: all right.
Speaker 3: So we'll move on because we're back on the merry
Speaker 3: go round of which coach should get the sacks? Because
Speaker 3: we talk about it each week. We've had Chris Fagan
Speaker 3: at the start of the year. Now look how much
Speaker 3: he's turned it around. We've had Luke Beverage over the year.
Speaker 3: We had Ken Hinckley just last couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 3: Now he's won two in a row. So they're looking
Speaker 3: for someone else. They're talking about Adam Simpson this week
Speaker 3: with the poor West Coast Eagles after having so much
Speaker 3: success over his career and now they're going.
Speaker 4: Through a bit of a struggle patch.
Speaker 3: They actually we've been pretty competitive through the middle part
Speaker 3: of the year, but you know, it's a long, long season.
Speaker 3: I just want to look at all of these coaches
Speaker 3: in general and think that some of these coaches are
Speaker 3: around for ten plus years and give a lot to
Speaker 3: these clubs. Obviously they take a wage from it, but
Speaker 3: you've been in the four walls. It's so much more
Speaker 3: than just a job. You have to be live, you
Speaker 3: have to be all in on it, and it trains
Speaker 3: you emotionally, spiritually, mentally, physically.
Speaker 4: There's got to be a way.
Speaker 3: And this is Tom opening up the floor to a
Speaker 3: discussion of who you asking is. Yeah, I just think
Speaker 3: of these like awesome, like coaches, especially premiership coaches that
Speaker 3: bring so much to a club that there's got to
Speaker 3: be like an amicable way to you know, end a
Speaker 3: time at a club where you can celebrate a coach.
Speaker 1: I think it's always hard whenever you win a premiership
Speaker 1: as a coach, because then that becomes your bar. Yeah, right,
Speaker 1: So then as a coach, everyone says, look, if you
Speaker 1: don't win a premiership, then it's an unsuccessful season because
Speaker 1: we know you can do it. We've seen you do
Speaker 1: it before. So it's it's one of those things I
Speaker 1: think as a coach, it's it's got to be tough
Speaker 1: because like obviously it's a bit of a cyclical thing
Speaker 1: with players that come through. You have like experienced players
Speaker 1: that you've built up and then you have to kind
Speaker 1: of revamp it. And it's like it's never you can
Speaker 1: try to get the young players to come through and
Speaker 1: like be consistently good at the time of the whole time.
Speaker 1: But it's it's actually quite tough, Like everyone goes in cycles.
Speaker 1: Like you look at what Richmond's having to go through
Speaker 1: at the moment, you know, after losing Jack and Trent
Speaker 1: and all that, like they've kind of now have to
Speaker 1: restructure a bit and then try to get some people
Speaker 1: with experience to be the leaders of that team. And
Speaker 1: it's just one of those things that happens. And like you,
Speaker 1: you know, I take it from my standpoint of what
Speaker 1: I've experienced with Box mid season, and yeah, like you said,
Speaker 1: it was it was a bit of a celebration for
Speaker 1: that week.
Speaker 2: But I mean, how many years did he coach there? Eight, eight,
Speaker 2: nine years or something like that. It's a fair tunk
Speaker 2: of your life to give up.
Speaker 1: And it's not like I don't think people understand kind
Speaker 1: of the time and the hours and the mental capacity
Speaker 1: you have to have to do a head coaching job.
Speaker 1: Like I think every week you having to talk to
Speaker 1: probably ten people and breaking their hearts saying, look, you're
Speaker 1: not playing AFL this week, and you have the beauty
Speaker 1: of saying, you know, you're playing your first game and
Speaker 1: things like that too. But to try to keep those
Speaker 1: people on the edge still motivated, even though you have
Speaker 1: to give them bad news on a consistent basis is
Speaker 1: a hard thing. And it's not like then you look
Speaker 1: at the end of the year and you having to
Speaker 1: sack people. It's like there's so many negative, negative things
Speaker 1: you have to do. That's you know, and you have
Speaker 1: these personal relationships with these guys, so it's got to
Speaker 1: be a like gut wrenching thing to, you know, tell
Speaker 1: them it's done, and it's not. I mean, it's not
Speaker 1: a job I kind of wish on anyone really, like
Speaker 1: it's one of the hardest jobs I've ever seen. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a weird one of how do you kind of
Speaker 1: show the respect on the way out, Like you look
Speaker 1: at Dema, you know, two years ago, and A really
Speaker 1: stopped with Richmond. He kind of said, look, this is
Speaker 1: kind of my decision, and he kind of took it
Speaker 1: on himself to move on rather than saying I'm going
Speaker 1: to let the club essentially sack me, which was a
Speaker 1: different thing I don't think we've really seen too often.
Speaker 1: Usually it's the club goes, hey, I see you later.
Speaker 1: You know, you've got a week two We're going to
Speaker 1: move someone else into this position. But even whenever Bucks left,
Speaker 1: like we had who would have our harvest came in
Speaker 1: as a head coach and it's not like you have
Speaker 1: the next head coach ready to go. So then we played,
Speaker 1: you know, half a season with the head coaching staff.
Speaker 1: That was most likely to leave after the year, so
Speaker 1: you're going, okay, would have been better just to keep
Speaker 1: boxing and then be able to say halfway through the year,
Speaker 1: this is your last year. Let's just celebrate the last
Speaker 1: chunk of it. I don't know, I don't know where
Speaker 1: the better side of it comes from, but I think
Speaker 1: as a coach you'd want to probably see the year
Speaker 1: out and say, look, you know, you're just gonna have
Speaker 1: to play the young guys if we want to get
Speaker 1: experience in people. And it's a you know, it's a
Speaker 1: bit of a conversation coming from probably the board down
Speaker 1: to the coach of saying, look, this is where you stand.
Speaker 1: We're going to make a public statement probably four or
Speaker 1: five weeks out from the end of the season if
Speaker 1: you're not successful and you know, be able to celebrate
Speaker 1: what you've been able to do with our club.
Speaker 3: We'll move on to talk about the Melbourne West Coast
Speaker 3: game because this one was a bit interesting.
Speaker 4: Melbourne scrappy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Melbourne obviously got the big win, but there was
Speaker 3: a lot of talking points, a lot of injuries.
Speaker 4: So Max Gorn's come out of this one with an injured.
Speaker 3: Ankle, Pickett hurt his finger, Oscar Allen played through his
Speaker 3: sore ankle, but probably the worst of the lot, Jeremy
Speaker 3: McGovern injured his ribs and lungs again.
Speaker 4: Doing he's got some bad ribs, which is.
Speaker 3: Doing courageous shit go on back to stop people kicking goals.
Speaker 3: He always seems to put himself in, you know, a
Speaker 3: vulnerable position.
Speaker 4: So, yeah, he went to the hospital and got all
Speaker 4: checked out.
Speaker 3: Actually I saw him a couple of times on the weekend,
Speaker 3: did Yeah, he was walking down Chapel Street and.
Speaker 2: I just stopped the stuf.
Speaker 3: Yes, at least he got to see Melbourne before he
Speaker 3: got to see the hospitals. But yeah, so it's going
Speaker 3: to be an interesting one the fallout for that because
Speaker 3: Melbourne's you know, running on a pretty thin roster as
Speaker 3: it is at the moment. Gorn's going to miss a
Speaker 3: couple off the back of that West Coast that they're
Speaker 3: done as it is, like they've got no players really,
Speaker 3: so that's not going to help them at all. Losing
Speaker 3: McGovern and then Oscar Allen if he's not playing at
Speaker 3: one hundred percent, he just can't seem to get a
Speaker 3: good run at it.
Speaker 4: At the moment, we.
Speaker 2: Know he's one of the best players in the league.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he just needs to have his body kind of
Speaker 1: be able to stick up for him.
Speaker 3: So yeah, absolutely, And it would be good to see
Speaker 3: them all be able to play together for an extended
Speaker 3: period of time.
Speaker 4: So prayers up for McGovern.
Speaker 3: We did see an interesting scrap between Max Gorn and
Speaker 3: Harley Reid. Now, this was an interesting matchup. Max Gorn
Speaker 3: kind of got him.
Speaker 4: He was on top. You'd probably expect it.
Speaker 2: Whoever's on top is a win, alright.
Speaker 4: That's pretty much it.
Speaker 3: But Max gone big heavy unit read you know, pick
Speaker 3: on someone that's not.
Speaker 4: I know you're confident. Just pick on some guys that
Speaker 4: are like you.
Speaker 2: Love it. A little bit of fire from the from Reid.
Speaker 1: I love it after the biggest guy on the ground,
Speaker 1: so I ain't afraid of you.
Speaker 4: A lot of scraps over the weekend. Your boy Cozy Picket.
Speaker 3: Huge another hangar, huge hanger. He was threatening big ones
Speaker 3: all year. He's taken a couple of speculative attempts, but
Speaker 3: he stuck this one.
Speaker 4: Do you reckon it's any better than your teammates s marks.
Speaker 2: Nah?
Speaker 1: The other boys ahead of them love Cozy. Everyone knows
Speaker 1: I little love picket. It was such a it was
Speaker 1: such a good one, like seeing the way it was
Speaker 1: just set up perfectly. Everyone knows, Like the balls kicked
Speaker 1: up and you see the defender of four steps ahead
Speaker 1: of them and he's just sitting there, just lurking, just
Speaker 1: ready to pounce. I was just perfectly set up for
Speaker 1: something like that. So it was it was a very
Speaker 1: good hanger. I don't think it's better than Bobbie's and
Speaker 1: I don't think it's better around ja. They both like
Speaker 1: Jamie and Bobby actually hung in the air on the
Speaker 1: shoulders for like a decent second or two. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: Bobby just landed on his feet and it just looked
Speaker 1: so clean where jamis is like he kind of like
Speaker 1: went forward with it. So whoever the hell's a judicating
Speaker 1: to sort that out. But yeah, I don't think it's
Speaker 1: gonna don't think it's gonna top them. I don't think
Speaker 1: it's gonna top them.
Speaker 3: Normally, I don't like it when they land on their feet,
Speaker 3: but there's something about Bobby's He like landed with like
Speaker 3: a strut, like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like kicks it after to just love no Love,
Speaker 2: No Bobby.
Speaker 4: Let's talk about Zach Butters because.
Speaker 3: He is speaking of fight Zach Butters might no, I
Speaker 3: will say, Zach Butters is going to be the most
Speaker 3: fine AFL player in the history of the game, which
Speaker 3: is pretty wild to think. He's so young still and
Speaker 3: he's gonna pass Toby Green, which is like I thought
Speaker 3: Toby Green would have been streets ahead of everyone. So
Speaker 3: you know you're doing some stuff wrong if your zoom
Speaker 3: and past Toby Green in terms.
Speaker 4: Of fines, because Toby's done some shit.
Speaker 3: So I just wanted to break this down because I
Speaker 3: wanted to know, like, how do you stop him? Because
Speaker 3: we saw Ken Hinckley during the game have a bit
Speaker 3: of a word because you know he's he's literally just
Speaker 3: been in trouble the last couple of weeks for people
Speaker 3: are getting under his skin. They're realizing that if you
Speaker 3: pay close attention to him and you know, keep bumping
Speaker 3: him and keep giving him extra attention, he can lose
Speaker 3: his call.
Speaker 4: And that's what he keeps doing.
Speaker 3: So we saw Kenny Hinckley because he was wrestling again
Speaker 3: on the weekend, just be like, come on, mate, what
Speaker 3: are you doing?
Speaker 4: How do I get you to stop? It's your money.
Speaker 3: Across the line into suspension territory because we need you.
Speaker 3: So I just want to ask, like, if a teammate
Speaker 3: of yours was in the same boat, just doing the
Speaker 3: same thing, constantly flirting with suspension, really punching blokes off
Speaker 3: the ball, what would you do? Would you have a
Speaker 3: word with him with the leadership, have a word with him.
Speaker 3: What happens if he keeps reoffending? Can you take that
Speaker 3: internally and punish them internally?
Speaker 4: Like, how would you go about it?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you probably have the conversation around the cautionary,
Speaker 1: cautionary way of looking at it, because you don't want
Speaker 1: him to get suspended. He's such a big part of
Speaker 1: their team, right, So I think the leadership group or
Speaker 1: someone or the coach or whatever it is, kind of says,
Speaker 1: look like, you know, there is a high probability of
Speaker 1: you getting suspended if you keep doing this shit, and
Speaker 1: we need you in the game, and we need you
Speaker 1: playing for us to be able to try to make
Speaker 1: finals and try to make a run at this thing. Now,
Speaker 1: I think it's more that conversation and maybe giving him
Speaker 1: a bit of advice where if you see him getting
Speaker 1: you know, aroused or arouse, you see him getting heated
Speaker 1: up you know, with someone bumping in wherever it is,
Speaker 1: you know, giving that feedback of VI like you know,
Speaker 1: think about back to like what's the movie with Adam
Speaker 1: sam Wers like Goose.
Speaker 2: Goose, But yeah, give them a little word, give him
Speaker 2: a word to be.
Speaker 1: Like, you know, get out of your own head, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and realize the situation and then just calm down right.
Speaker 1: Whether it be three Brass, whether it be some psycle.
Speaker 1: Let the psychologists of the club sort that out. But
Speaker 1: I think that's the conversation you need to have with
Speaker 1: them to say, like, look, you need to you need
Speaker 1: to make sure that you're not going to cost us
Speaker 1: by costing yourself.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so he needs a little mantra.
Speaker 1: He needs to write like steel Side has, like get
Speaker 1: up on his hand and something like that.
Speaker 2: Just a real obvious statement.
Speaker 3: Let's move on to the big winners, because we do
Speaker 3: have port as the big winners. Two wins back to
Speaker 3: back after Kenny's pretty much straight after Kenny had been booed.
Speaker 3: He's one two back to back and all the big
Speaker 3: names of firing. Georgiardi has kicked five goals, one up
Speaker 3: for Horny Frank our Boy three goals twenty disposals, Rosie
Speaker 3: thirty six in a goal, Butter's thirty three in a
Speaker 3: goal and Ollie Wine's thirty in a goal. So they
Speaker 3: all kind of turned it on against the Bulldogs and
Speaker 3: it was good to see. But we will look forward
Speaker 3: to the ball and at the moment their accuracy just
Speaker 3: isn't there. With some of their forwards. We look at
Speaker 3: Finlayson's going at thirty four percent. Thirty four percent, that's
Speaker 3: pretty low. Marshall, who everyone calls a dead eyed dick,
Speaker 3: He's had forty two percent twenty goals seventeen, couple of misses. Dixon,
Speaker 3: he's had a bit of an off year. So Georgi
Speaker 3: Yardy is rolling at fifty six percent, which is pretty good.
Speaker 3: Strike Rade twenty seven goals seventeen. They're more accurate forward.
Speaker 3: So he's I don't know it's important to the team,
Speaker 3: but you know what he has done. He's gone out
Speaker 3: and whacked a bloke and he's going to miss next week,
Speaker 3: which is an important game. Every game is important for
Speaker 3: Port and now you've got your most accurate forward coming
Speaker 3: off five goals, who whacked a bloke. He's going to
Speaker 3: miss a game and that game is the gold Coast
Speaker 3: Suns away boys, and we know how good the Sons
Speaker 3: are at home because they're not good anywhere else.
Speaker 2: So it's first stadium.
Speaker 3: They have to be pretty good over at People's First Stadium.
Speaker 3: So that's just an other one that Ken must if
Speaker 3: he had hair, he'd be pulling it out because some
Speaker 3: of these players are really letting him down when he's
Speaker 3: fighting for his life out there. We will say both.
Speaker 3: We want to get around one play here and now,
Speaker 3: poor Travis Bolk. I'm not putting you in the gun
Speaker 3: because it's the Positivity Podcast this week. So we're going
Speaker 3: to get around Travis Bok because looking at those stats,
Speaker 3: I did discover that Travis Bok is zero goals eleven.
Speaker 4: For the year.
Speaker 3: Mate, Ah, that's not very good. So we're going to
Speaker 3: get around him. We here for Travis Boke. Watch if
Speaker 3: Travis Bok kicks his first goal, what are you going
Speaker 3: to do?
Speaker 2: What excited to see that? We're going to have to.
Speaker 4: We'll make that a challenge.
Speaker 3: If Travis bow kicks his first goal this week against
Speaker 3: the Suns at People's First against your team, send in a.
Speaker 4: Challenge that you want Mason to do.
Speaker 3: Mason's going to have to do something because we're just
Speaker 3: this is the Happiness Pod this week on some things.
Speaker 2: I don't appreciate this backhanded thing with Bug.
Speaker 4: This is good.
Speaker 2: He's a good man who's absolutely killed in his career.
Speaker 1: And I know, looking at some of these statistics, right,
Speaker 1: you got some of the percentages up here, dix to
Speaker 1: forty six percent, that's not too bad. I feel that's
Speaker 1: pretty normal. But I think a lot of it, you know,
Speaker 1: you come down to you know, where are you taking
Speaker 1: your set shots from? Are they boundary? Are they in front?
Speaker 1: And some of those percentages you're talking about goal kicking.
Speaker 1: Actually I feel like you've harked on this before. Is
Speaker 1: you know some of it might be the way they're
Speaker 1: offensively going inside fifty and maybe it's you know, some
Speaker 1: of the smalls or whatever it is, are getting snaps
Speaker 1: from the angle. That's not really you know, a great
Speaker 1: percentage shot. But yeah, it's a bit dewey up there
Speaker 1: opening the Gold Coast.
Speaker 2: It's going to be an interesting thing.
Speaker 4: I have a good counter point.
Speaker 1: Do you think they'll kick over fifty percent accuracy over
Speaker 1: the weekend?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 3: No, no, no, looking at that, no, because the the
Speaker 3: percentages that I left out were all their meds that
Speaker 3: are way work than those. Okay, so they don't really
Speaker 3: have any good shots a goal, which joorge Yard, who's
Speaker 3: not playing.
Speaker 4: So I will say that because.
Speaker 3: That's an argument, is like, oh, but you know, they
Speaker 3: might get harder shots because they're leading out, they might
Speaker 3: be forced into the pockets and all that.
Speaker 4: But that's their craft, that's their You train.
Speaker 2: That the whole time too, it's a game plan.
Speaker 3: I see these mids coming forward, like you look at
Speaker 3: Sydney all their mods just kick them from fifty five
Speaker 3: sixty from the boundary and they're just so accurate. And
Speaker 3: I just wonder if you know, you're a forward that
Speaker 3: trains goalkicking your whole time and you're still rolling out
Speaker 3: a thirty forty percent.
Speaker 4: I don't get it. Like I feel like, as.
Speaker 1: What would you do to fix gore kicking Brandon as
Speaker 1: a coach, because you're.
Speaker 3: I feel like you look at every other sport in
Speaker 3: the world, they're way better at their craft.
Speaker 2: Yep, So Shaquille and Eil free throw is pretty good.
Speaker 4: No, that's not his craft. His craft is dunky.
Speaker 3: We look at like Steph Curry, it's a lot harder
Speaker 3: to get a basketball. That's this big in a ring,
Speaker 3: that's that big. If we're looking at difficulty, how big
Speaker 3: between posts you got? Like what ten meter gap to
Speaker 3: kick it through?
Speaker 4: Ten? That's a lost man. We all need to get better.
Speaker 4: To see you.
Speaker 1: I'll give you ten shots at goal. I'd love to
Speaker 1: know what your percentage would be.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they got to be within forty because there's no
Speaker 3: way that I could kill. Someone did ask last week
Speaker 3: after I said that I'm not greater goalkicking accuracy. They
Speaker 3: asked if they were surprised to hear that I played AFL,
Speaker 3: and I have to say that, although I I thank
Speaker 3: you for the compliment of thinking that I could potentially
Speaker 3: be an AFL former AFL player, I did not play
Speaker 3: AFL at any stage in my career.
Speaker 4: I played footy. I played Australian rules football for the
Speaker 4: Tatura Bulldogs.
Speaker 2: Shout out.
Speaker 4: I was a defender. No one kicked a go in
Speaker 4: my season. I think I only played like I played
Speaker 4: like James.
Speaker 3: I played like six or seven games. It was under
Speaker 3: I was sixteen, under seventeen. But yeah, that's I can
Speaker 3: take that to the grave with me.
Speaker 4: But no.
Speaker 3: But they also did say in the same message that
Speaker 3: I've seen to up my style huge. Not today, I'm
Speaker 3: just I'm lounging today. But I'll be back next week
Speaker 3: with some more style. Anyway, we'll move on because I'm
Speaker 3: sick of talking about you, and We'll go to the
Speaker 3: GWS because they were another big winner my boys and lucky.
Speaker 4: I didn't get off them. That was the one thing that.
Speaker 2: In the first half though not at all, I was
Speaker 2: did you turn it off? Did to another game?
Speaker 3: I was pretty grim on them because I was like,
Speaker 3: Carlton's just going to get another big pump and win.
Speaker 3: And then I was like Carlton's the informed team in
Speaker 3: the camp at the moment. But they fumbled the back,
Speaker 3: So that was pretty good to see. GWS big come
Speaker 3: from behind win. Come from behind if you is it
Speaker 3: a come from behind if you're down in the first quarter, like,
Speaker 3: it's not really a comfort behind.
Speaker 4: Come on now, it's a it's a g rated podcast.
Speaker 3: What I will say is Jesse Hogan, big daddy hoages.
Speaker 4: He's kicked five from eleven targets. He's great.
Speaker 3: I love to see it. He's third club and he's
Speaker 3: just turned everything around. Because I reckon Melbourne, he was
Speaker 3: just a kid trying to find his way, went to Freo,
Speaker 3: didn't really have a good run of it at Frio
Speaker 3: at all. Moved up to GWS and it was like,
Speaker 3: what's going to change here? Third Club, and boy, he
Speaker 3: has turned it all around, and it's awesome to see he's,
Speaker 3: you know, a dominant force up there for him, especially
Speaker 3: when Toby grand Fair to say that he's been a
Speaker 3: bit down on for him. So it's great to see
Speaker 3: Hogan up there firing for him. Toby Bedford another interesting game.
Speaker 3: He played on Walsh early in the game, kind of
Speaker 3: shut him down and then Crips got off the hook,
Speaker 3: so then he went to Crips and kind of you know,
Speaker 3: calmed him down a bit. Crip still had a massive game,
Speaker 3: but he did a good job across both of them.
Speaker 3: We saw big Briggsy. We love to see this. Keep
Speaker 3: an eye on the big ruckman. He had a big game.
Speaker 3: Twenty two disposals, forty hit outs, forty's handy. It's not
Speaker 3: a plumber, but it's handy. Ten clearances. So we like
Speaker 3: to see Briggs back up there in form of he
Speaker 3: really took off last year, so it's good to see
Speaker 3: him get back to some of that form and then
Speaker 3: the old dog cal war love this thirty touches?
Speaker 4: What do you kick? Two goals? We like that, We
Speaker 4: like any.
Speaker 2: Love the old fellaws just smoking.
Speaker 4: It's wild to me.
Speaker 3: He what he kicked their first goal ever?
Speaker 4: Every really yeah? And now he's kicking.
Speaker 2: He's still kicking, still kick a goal touches?
Speaker 4: Yeah, So that's pretty good.
Speaker 3: And now GWS back in the eight obviously unfortunately knocked
Speaker 3: Collingwood down to ninth.
Speaker 4: But you know they've got a you'd.
Speaker 3: Suggest a win or they're at least going to go
Speaker 3: in favorites next week against Richmond. So they've put themselves
Speaker 3: back into a good position, which is lucky. Why I
Speaker 3: didn't jump off of me and I gave him the extra week.
Speaker 3: Calmness prevailed and we had a little win off the
Speaker 3: back of St. Kilda sucks, so an even doubt. Now
Speaker 3: we'll move into this because this is what we all
Speaker 3: wanted to talk about.
Speaker 4: The big losers for the week.
Speaker 3: Now, your boys, the Gold Coast Suns, they haven't got
Speaker 3: it done on the road. That's an understatement. They've lost
Speaker 3: the last fifteen on.
Speaker 2: The road games.
Speaker 3: And this was against North. Now North aren't exactly world
Speaker 3: beaters at the moment they're having a bit of a
Speaker 3: form patch and then they're turning it around. But Dimmar
Speaker 3: wasn't having a bar of it. He came out and
Speaker 3: said as a footy club, we need to grow the
Speaker 3: fuck up. And for starters, hearing that was very refreshing.
Speaker 3: As a Gold Coast fan, he guys out there, I'm.
Speaker 2: Sure you upset right here, upsid.
Speaker 4: I'm sure they would have.
Speaker 3: You know, loved to hear it because you love to
Speaker 3: hear the passion. You love to hear from the coach
Speaker 3: exactly what you're thinking, because you'd be like, what is
Speaker 3: this bullshit? Why can't we win on the road? What
Speaker 3: the fuck's going on? And when the coach says exactly
Speaker 3: what you're thinking, you're like, great, it's going to be addressed.
Speaker 3: We know what's going what is happening here. We're all
Speaker 3: on the same page. So it was great to see
Speaker 3: from Dimmer. Now he apologized multiple times about his use
Speaker 3: of the language, but for me, it was refreshing and
Speaker 3: we'd love to see the honesty from the coaches.
Speaker 4: We always say that and then we have a million.
Speaker 3: Articles written on it after the fact, saying, oh you
Speaker 3: can't swear, you can't do this, you can't do that.
Speaker 3: We like the personality, We like the raw honesty of it.
Speaker 3: How did you, first of all, the presser and how
Speaker 3: did you see that? What was your take on the
Speaker 3: swearing and his emotions after the game?
Speaker 1: I mean, you'd be pretty frustrated. I think that's fair
Speaker 1: to say that Ryan the language which is like I
Speaker 1: think I think like if you were to sit there
Speaker 1: and take the F word out of that, I don't
Speaker 1: think it would be that much of a story. No.
Speaker 1: I think people are like, yep, we need to grow
Speaker 1: as a team. We need to get experience in us
Speaker 1: to be able to win these on the road and
Speaker 1: have a you know, a successful season, to be able
Speaker 1: to like, you can't have a successful season if you're
Speaker 1: not winning on the road, No, like you have to
Speaker 1: do and you can't lose fifteen games straight on the
Speaker 1: road and be okay with that like that, there needs
Speaker 1: to be a standard to say that we need to
Speaker 1: be able to win on the road, you know, and
Speaker 1: beat teams if we want to be in the top eight,
Speaker 1: we have to make sure that we get the wins
Speaker 1: against the teams that are outside of the top eight, right,
Speaker 1: Like that's civil mass really like, and I actually like
Speaker 1: it from him. I think demo like it would be
Speaker 1: a frustrating experience for him. I think going from Richmond,
Speaker 1: who he had seen so much success with, you know,
Speaker 1: was a club that was a lot bigger club, probably
Speaker 1: had a lot more resources in that sense, and things
Speaker 1: like that. You know that he's now gone to a
Speaker 1: club that maybe doesn't have as much of that or
Speaker 1: you know, it doesn't have the you know, the amount
Speaker 1: of fans that Richmond had, and it's like it's almost
Speaker 1: not necessarily stepped down. It's just a different experience for him,
Speaker 1: and it could be frustrating at times. I can totally
Speaker 1: understand that first year coach, you know, new club, getting
Speaker 1: to know people, like there's a lot of stress involved,
Speaker 1: right and he wants to see him successful and like
Speaker 1: they you know, for changing coaches and still being where
Speaker 1: they are right now and having a bit of a
Speaker 1: run like it's actually, you know, it's a credit to
Speaker 1: m it's not. He's usually inever you switch coaches, you
Speaker 1: have a bit of a down year, you know, you
Speaker 1: try to figure out the new system everything else, you know,
Speaker 1: and then but like right now, they're still in the
Speaker 1: hunt for the top eight, which is something they've never
Speaker 1: done before. So I don't think there's like a doom
Speaker 1: and gloom. Yes, you need to win on the road.
Speaker 1: And I think he's very you know, very pointy with
Speaker 1: the way he kind of said it. But I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm kind of a fan of it. I know, if
Speaker 1: you don't like the f wort that's put in there,
Speaker 1: Channel seven can just bleep it out, I'm sure. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I think he's just straight up given his actual thoughts
Speaker 1: out for the game. Like, I mean, I don't think
Speaker 1: there's an issue where they'd be quite frustrated losing the
Speaker 1: North Melbourne on the weekend. And yeah, there is a
Speaker 1: bit of a thing around there losing it away from home.
Speaker 1: So it's personality. You know, you caught in the moment
Speaker 1: as a coach, you care, you give a shit. I
Speaker 1: think it's a good thing.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Do you like you'd be more worried if you just
Speaker 2: rocked up.
Speaker 1: After a lost North melboy on the road, losing fifteen
Speaker 1: games in a round going Yeah, it's just you know,
Speaker 1: it's a tough day, but we went on.
Speaker 5: You'd be like, as of support, he'd be like, come on, man,
Speaker 5: give me something.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Do you like it when coaches use the public forum
Speaker 3: to g up the team.
Speaker 1: There's there's right and wrong ways to go about it.
Speaker 1: I think you always want to look after obviously, like
Speaker 1: the club and the fans and things like that, and
Speaker 1: I think like you look at maybe this comment about
Speaker 1: the footy club and you could you know, you could
Speaker 1: see the other side of it, or like the football
Speaker 1: club being like, oh shit, like you kind of you
Speaker 1: having to dig it us, not just the players, but
Speaker 1: the club as a whole. So yeah, I mean I
Speaker 1: can see both sides of it, but I don't think
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't think it's a great thing.
Speaker 1: I think it's more you get the energy whenever an
Speaker 1: opposition coach says that opposition coach and an opposition player says
Speaker 1: something that gives you that motivation, that little extra ticker
Speaker 1: to be like, nah, we're going to go at these boys.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think Justin Longmire said either last week or the
Speaker 3: week before he came out and said like there was
Speaker 3: a few of our mids like just pad like padding
Speaker 3: for stats rather than playing team footy. So I don't
Speaker 3: mind it when a coach uses it to spark up
Speaker 3: like maybe a section or a group that maybe haven't
Speaker 3: taken the direction or whatever, and I haven't listened, and
Speaker 3: then you put it on notice in a public forum. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I just I like that externally. I just never thought about,
Speaker 3: you know how much that could influence internally, if you
Speaker 3: might be able to rub the players up the wrong
Speaker 3: way or hopefully you know how they'll respond to something
Speaker 3: like that being their coach. But it's always an interesting one.
Speaker 3: Have you ever been called out like publicly in a forum?
Speaker 2: Not publicly?
Speaker 1: Probably say, had some statements that were made by certain
Speaker 1: players at the club not appreciate it and we can don't.
Speaker 1: That's probably where I've been called out I think the most.
Speaker 4: Yeah, nice, I like that.
Speaker 3: I will move quickly through the Western Bulldogs because they
Speaker 3: it's fair to say, big losers from the weekend getting
Speaker 3: flogged by Port, who you know, have been in the
Speaker 3: gun themselves in recent times. So there's no real shame
Speaker 3: losing to Port at home because they are still a
Speaker 3: decent team. But the way that they lost wasn't great,
Speaker 3: and especially their forwards how they.
Speaker 1: Talked about the tall timber. That was like getting put
Speaker 1: into this game. Love goes back. You still got three
Speaker 1: tall forwards.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was interesting because Norton went out early with concussion.
Speaker 3: Sam Darcy didn't kick a goal, hugile Hagen didn't kick
Speaker 3: a goal. They persisted with lob back and then it
Speaker 3: was really just the Bond doing BoNT things. Went forward,
Speaker 3: kicked three goals, adstra Law racked up almost forty touches.
Speaker 4: It's kind of the same old, same olds.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I don't they've gone past Mulligan stage for
Speaker 3: me where you can't just write this one off because
Speaker 3: it's a pretty consistent pattern that.
Speaker 4: It's every other week.
Speaker 3: But they do come back home and they've got a
Speaker 3: big game against Carlton next week at Marvel at Marst.
Speaker 1: Home games, which yeah, you'd love to see the Bulldogs
Speaker 1: fire up from that game losing by a big margin
Speaker 1: to port out a let at home. To see them
Speaker 1: go back have a home game against one of the
Speaker 1: best teams in the league in form at the moment
Speaker 1: to get a win. I think that would really help
Speaker 1: their fan base get a bit of hope and.
Speaker 3: Faith because I thought they'd turned the corner. I was
Speaker 3: that close this As we've.
Speaker 1: Said this before, it's like, you know, they have a game,
Speaker 1: they go oh Man, this is maybe a turn in
Speaker 1: the corner and they get you know, they're win five
Speaker 1: or six straight, you know, and then they lose one.
Speaker 1: That's maybe winter Ball two weeks later or something. You
Speaker 1: just never really feel like you have one hundred percent
Speaker 1: finger on the pulse of where they're at. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: feel like the Bulldogs have always kind of been like that.
Speaker 1: But they're still in the heart. Man, there's still chance
Speaker 1: they just have to We're getting to the pointy end.
Speaker 1: We'll talk about later is how close the ladder is,
Speaker 1: And really there's there's probably fifteen teams there are a
Speaker 1: chance to make the ape at the moment.
Speaker 3: So that's what I'm getting more and more wary of,
Speaker 3: is writing a team off because it's a very close year.
Speaker 3: But it's a close year where all teams are falling down.
Speaker 3: So it's gonna be one of those ones who's there.
Speaker 3: It's a Stephen Bradbury who's there at the last moment.
Speaker 3: Because every team that's had, every team so far has
Speaker 3: had a moment where they've been down, whether it's been
Speaker 3: Collingwood has been down, Brisbane's been down, Bulldogs have been down,
Speaker 3: Port's been down. Everyone's been down or had their moments.
Speaker 3: Sydney is currently going through it with two losses in
Speaker 3: a row and they looked unbeatable three weeks ago. So
Speaker 3: every team's got these down patches and we're just going
Speaker 3: to see who can get it right coming into finals.
Speaker 3: And then you know, we looked at Geelong, Geelong we're
Speaker 3: like a shambles and now they're they had a big
Speaker 3: win over the weekends, so it's really anyone's to win.
Speaker 3: It will go through to the Collingwood game, because that's
Speaker 3: another one we put it on Essendon that it's you know,
Speaker 3: they're a bit up and down, but they're holding strong
Speaker 3: their position inside the top four. Are they still in
Speaker 3: the top four? Of it is crazy and everyone is
Speaker 3: questioning them. Can they beat a good team because they've
Speaker 3: been beating teams that are lower down on the ladder,
Speaker 3: And any excuse to kind of throw at this Essendon
Speaker 3: team because people have been waiting for him to drop,
Speaker 3: Well they're not dropping and they had a massive win
Speaker 3: to their credit over Collingwood on the weekend. Lots of pressure.
Speaker 3: Zach Merritt, Oh god, he's got to be up there
Speaker 3: looking at that game. And I heard someone say it
Speaker 3: that he should be right up there for all Australian
Speaker 3: captain contention, and I think this year he's put his
Speaker 3: hand up because the way that he's led the team,
Speaker 3: He's doing it at both ends. He's kicking goals, but
Speaker 3: he's getting back, he's saving games, chasing, tackling, bringing players
Speaker 3: along with him.
Speaker 4: He's been massive.
Speaker 2: Do you have him as the captain going on?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 4: Off the top of my head, I would like.
Speaker 2: You think he's over bond right now?
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll give it to him.
Speaker 3: I feel like they do seem to give it.
Speaker 4: To repeat guys.
Speaker 3: OK, So, like the bond would make a lot of
Speaker 3: sense because he's kind of been there, done that, But
Speaker 3: I think it's well worth the reward from where Essenon were,
Speaker 3: the direct change in his game and where they are
Speaker 3: now has all correlated, like it it just Yeah, what
Speaker 3: he's done this year has been massive.
Speaker 1: It's been incredible. He's absolutely smashed it and over the
Speaker 1: weekend you can definitely see his impact in the game,
Speaker 1: that's for sure.
Speaker 3: Yeah, On's been great this year, but he's like impact
Speaker 3: is unique this year because I feel like they're swinging
Speaker 3: him forward and playing him forward when he hasn't been
Speaker 3: getting the ball in the midfield. So it's been like
Speaker 3: one of those it's it's been out of necessity at times.
Speaker 3: But yeah, Zaki Merritt has just been going. He's just
Speaker 3: been plugging away. I've loved his game this year. Let's
Speaker 3: talk about Collingwood because wowsers. We look at these two
Speaker 3: injuries and two blokes that you would say you would never,
Speaker 3: could never afford to get injured. You've got Checkers up
Speaker 3: for and you've got DC in the ruck when stocks
Speaker 3: are already thin. Now I look at those Checkers. The
Speaker 3: roughest run with it hamstring into hamstring into peck, and
Speaker 3: he'll be sorely missed because not a lot of tall
Speaker 3: timber up forward at the moment, and d C no
Speaker 3: rucks left.
Speaker 4: Really, have you.
Speaker 2: Got DC's fine? I think he's all right.
Speaker 3: Well, he went and got checked out because his ribs
Speaker 3: were cooked, and so you're telling me he's good enough
Speaker 3: to get back out there.
Speaker 2: He's just gonna.
Speaker 4: Copper cement, suck up pills.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Oh, he's definitely looking better than I have. Yeah, I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: those things are happening. I know Checkers obviously is out
Speaker 1: for the year. I've kind of come out with the
Speaker 1: media that sense where he has to have surgery on
Speaker 1: his pack.
Speaker 2: That's very unfortunate.
Speaker 1: Talking to him the other day, actually he hasn't had
Speaker 1: surgery since like twenty sixteen or something, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: this is insane. For like, how many times I've seen
Speaker 1: you go back to the fly to get crunched or whatever.
Speaker 1: It is pretty amazing. So yeah, he's he'll go in
Speaker 1: for surgery and unfortunately see him done for the season.
Speaker 1: And then DC had that Yeah, got I think got
Speaker 1: a bit of a clip in the in the ReBs,
Speaker 1: so they'll.
Speaker 2: Get that looked at.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's going to be an interesting one to
Speaker 1: see who takes Marchek's position because we've got Krugz, who's
Speaker 1: you know, been playing that pinch hit slash forward a
Speaker 1: pinch hit rock and then also on the forward. And
Speaker 1: then there's the big question around Dann McStay. You know,
Speaker 1: they almost like for like with Checkers, is like, when's
Speaker 1: he going to be ready?
Speaker 4: Can I ask you that question?
Speaker 3: Because we've been hearing all about Dan mixstay at training,
Speaker 3: how he took a hangar the other so he's sounding
Speaker 3: like he's almost ready to go. What's an update on
Speaker 3: Dan Mixtay.
Speaker 1: Damn it stays. He is absolutely killing in training. He
Speaker 1: looks just he looks ready to go. But I think
Speaker 1: with these things, right, like, you have to trust the
Speaker 1: medical people in their experience of you know, how to
Speaker 1: come back in the best you know, avenue to be
Speaker 1: able to come back to playing ifl because let's be honest,
Speaker 1: we can't really afford to be losing any tolls anymore.
Speaker 1: And that's the realistic part of this. So I think,
Speaker 1: you know, with this, you obviously need someone like that
Speaker 1: in that role, but also you don't want to rush
Speaker 1: him to the point where something might happen then you
Speaker 1: just lose him again. So I don't think, I don't know,
Speaker 1: I have no idea what we're going to.
Speaker 5: Do with it.
Speaker 1: I don't know if he goes through the VFL and
Speaker 1: when he does, or if he goes straight to the NFL,
Speaker 1: and when that kind of decision is going to be made.
Speaker 1: I think over the next three, you know, four days,
Speaker 1: they'll kind of get a bit of an idea. But
Speaker 1: you have to think that check is going down puts
Speaker 1: pressure on him to hopefully come back sooner rather than later.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I always hate the idea of people
Speaker 3: coming back from ACLS at.
Speaker 4: One of those raggedy ass VFL venues.
Speaker 1: Playing at vic Park, and that's where he did his
Speaker 1: ACL originally.
Speaker 3: Let's not say that an update on Jamie Elliott because
Speaker 3: I've I haven't followed it too closely, but like when
Speaker 3: you see it on the sheet, it says vascular. For me,
Speaker 3: when I read that, I feel like it's a bit
Speaker 3: of Mike Tyson. Tyson's spinal you know, when he did
Speaker 3: that press my back, it's spainal. It's like, what's vascular?
Speaker 3: How's that going?
Speaker 4: Is that? Can you come back from that? What's that?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I think he's running fine everything else, and he's training,
Speaker 1: you know, doing full training and stuff like that too.
Speaker 1: So he has been doing a bit of running with me.
Speaker 1: And I find it funny because it's like it's real
Speaker 1: shit for me because essentially running next to Jamie Elliott
Speaker 1: very opposite into the spectrum right quick, not so quick,
Speaker 1: you know, can turn very quick, can't turn very quick.
Speaker 3: He's smart because it's like if it's like, geez, Jamie's
Speaker 3: looking good.
Speaker 5: Floor man, he's killing rehab cooks a few weeks out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, it is quite funny.
Speaker 1: Though, because he did go run with I remember the
Speaker 1: other day we're sitting there doing spreads back and forth
Speaker 1: and like he's like, all right, Cox, are.
Speaker 2: You going to do two? Jamie, You're going to do four.
Speaker 4: He's like, wow, we.
Speaker 2: Run the same program here. He's like, you run a
Speaker 2: bit more in games than Cox. He does. So he
Speaker 2: is killing it, you know. I think he's getting close.
Speaker 1: I'm not really too sure of kind of what the
Speaker 1: day he comes back of the game he comes back
Speaker 1: in that sense, but it's good to see him back
Speaker 1: out and training. I think it just kind of his
Speaker 1: injury kind of came out of the blue and no
Speaker 1: one was really knowing what was going on or it
Speaker 1: didn't expect it by any means. So it's good to
Speaker 1: see someone looking healthy, running running around and looking back
Speaker 1: to normal, which is which is what we want.
Speaker 3: Got to get some cattle out in the park. We'll
Speaker 3: talk about Darcy Moore. He's had a pretty rough week
Speaker 3: in terms of people talking about him not being in
Speaker 3: the form and holding him up to his lofty standards
Speaker 3: that he set for himself. U I think Fly came
Speaker 3: out and acknowledged that he's probably going through.
Speaker 4: A bit of a dip in form.
Speaker 3: Now, yeah, it's hard because it's one it's your captain too.
Speaker 3: I've never seen Darcy Moore go through a dip in form.
Speaker 3: How have you seen him around the club? Has he
Speaker 3: changed in any way? Like, has he been acting any different?
Speaker 3: Has he been going through it? Have people been supporting him? Like,
Speaker 3: what's how's Darcy been tracking?
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's pretty normal. Dose is a very level headed person.
Speaker 1: Love him to death. He's an incredible human that you
Speaker 1: know handles. I think the stress of being a captain
Speaker 1: very well handles you know, the you know, the pressure
Speaker 1: that's put onto his shoulders and everything else, and I
Speaker 1: think a little bit. So you know, there's been quite
Speaker 1: a few changes in the back line. We've now to
Speaker 1: move Jeremy how forward and you know there's there's things
Speaker 1: like that that do have you know, an effect on
Speaker 1: people whenever you've played with someone for a long time
Speaker 1: and you know, shifting people around in that sense because
Speaker 1: we've had to try to find another toll to be
Speaker 1: able to play in the forward line. Yeah, that only
Speaker 1: affects the player that's swapped, but also people around him
Speaker 1: that are used to playing with them. Right, So yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just been a bit of a different experience for
Speaker 1: him over the last few weeks. I think, I think
Speaker 1: people whenever you lose games, they look for someone to blame,
Speaker 1: you know, they look for someone and they start looking
Speaker 1: at statistics and stuff like that. But yeah, I still
Speaker 1: look at Darcy as like, you know, he's a he's
Speaker 1: a freak athlete, one of the best players in the league.
Speaker 1: So you'd be silly to sit there and keep criticizing him.
Speaker 1: I think, you know, he's someone that's you know, throughout
Speaker 1: the years, is being able to, you know, play to
Speaker 1: an incredible level and continues too. And I know, you know,
Speaker 1: it's a it's an easy thing for people just to
Speaker 1: go and blame the captain. So that's might be a
Speaker 1: little bit of what's going on at the moment. And
Speaker 1: you know, I think overall we need to be playing
Speaker 1: better as a team. And it's not a single player
Speaker 1: that's you know, to blame, it's a it's a whole
Speaker 1: team aspect. So I don't I don't believe in these
Speaker 1: things of Darcy Moore commentary and stuff like that. You know,
Speaker 1: I think we're all just as guilty, and you know,
Speaker 1: we do this as a collective.
Speaker 3: That's a really good point. I mean, you don't often
Speaker 3: make them, but Jeremy How when he came on the
Speaker 3: podcast last year. Last year he did mention that him
Speaker 3: and Darcy have pretty much an unspoken bond and they
Speaker 3: can they know where each other was going to be.
Speaker 3: And once you take that pillar out, it must make
Speaker 3: it a lot harder on Darcy who kind of is
Speaker 3: expecting Jeremy How to be where he normally is and
Speaker 3: having to work with the new players that are filling
Speaker 3: that position. So that's definitely something that.
Speaker 1: I mean, like I think from my standpoint, it's like
Speaker 1: there's certain players I've played with for a long time,
Speaker 1: like you know, Jamie Elliot, Brody Maerchak, right, Like those
Speaker 1: two come to mind right away because you know that
Speaker 1: they are just as knowledgeable as you, if not more
Speaker 1: knowledgeable where they're supposed to be a certain situations of
Speaker 1: the game and when and if they need to go
Speaker 1: back or wherever it is, and you kind of have
Speaker 1: that thing where you check in with them, you go
Speaker 1: just give them the nod, but you don't really have
Speaker 1: to feel you don't have to really kind of tell
Speaker 1: them too much because they know what they're doing and
Speaker 1: you have that can just from experience has played together
Speaker 1: of games over the years and whenever it's new people
Speaker 1: come into it and it's you know, it can be
Speaker 1: a bit of a shock, but I think you just
Speaker 1: kind of go, I need to get used to this,
Speaker 1: you know, I need to get used to what he
Speaker 1: does and his strengths and how I can you know,
Speaker 1: help support him in the best way possible to make
Speaker 1: sure that you know, as a collective we're doing well.
Speaker 1: So that's part of the experience, right and I think
Speaker 1: we're learning that as a team. So we've had a
Speaker 1: few guys get injured this year, and we're having different
Speaker 1: people play different roles.
Speaker 3: Jeremy Howe has swung forward. Could we see Darcy Moore
Speaker 3: swung forward?
Speaker 2: I wouldn't like to see him forward.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm all for Darcy to do whatever the
Speaker 1: hell you want, because you a freak athlete. But I
Speaker 1: always I think he's been an incredible bachman for us
Speaker 1: for so long. And you provide such good leadership back there,
Speaker 1: and you know, you talk about setting up the field
Speaker 1: and setting up formation and stuff like that, you know,
Speaker 1: and a lot of that comes from the back line
Speaker 1: and gets filtered up through the mids and the forwards
Speaker 1: and stuff, and to have your captain back there as
Speaker 1: a staple to that is a big benefit for us.
Speaker 1: So I think I'd love to see him stay in
Speaker 1: the back line, whether whatever they decided to do, they
Speaker 1: decided to do. But I think with Jeremy Howe, I
Speaker 1: mean he's been he's kicked at least I think a
Speaker 1: goal every single game he's played off forward, so I
Speaker 1: can't imagine you'd be changing that too much in that situation.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I did remember Pendles once upon a time saying that
Speaker 3: he believes that Darcy Moore is a Ford.
Speaker 1: Don't want wants tom me. Darcy Moore as like a
Speaker 1: ruckman just because of his dad was like he could be.
Speaker 4: I don't know, have you gone against him in the.
Speaker 1: Ruck maybe once or twice, but you know you don't
Speaker 1: drive your ferraris in the mud, mate, drive your ferraris
Speaker 1: in the bud.
Speaker 3: That got us talking before because we have seen him
Speaker 3: go forward and he wasn't pretty handy forward in his time.
Speaker 3: But we were talking about this pre podcast, who's the
Speaker 3: best swingman the AFL has ever seen?
Speaker 1: Well, the best swingman I've ever seen has got to
Speaker 1: be Mike bits Blitzervs. Yeah, Mark Blitzervis has to be
Speaker 1: the best swingman I've ever seen. He plays, and I'm
Speaker 1: not talking just from the line to the defense. I'm
Speaker 1: talking about that dude can play wing, he can play rock,
Speaker 1: he can play forward, he can play back. You just
Speaker 1: make sure he's on the field and he will just
Speaker 1: sort out that role.
Speaker 3: I'm thinking more traditional because I saw Ben Reid early
Speaker 3: Collingwood days.
Speaker 4: He was, you know, built for it.
Speaker 3: He used to play defense, would swing Ford, kick a
Speaker 3: handful of goals every now and then, then get injured,
Speaker 3: but he was He was great when he was out there.
Speaker 3: We talked about another Collingwood great. He moved to Frio
Speaker 3: and they thought he was a defender. Chris Tarrant started
Speaker 3: and played at Ford at Collingwood. Then Freo said he's
Speaker 3: a gun defender. So Collingwood got him back and said, okay,
Speaker 3: be our gun defender. I also liked Michael Hurley. He's
Speaker 3: an absolute jet at both ends of the field.
Speaker 4: There's so many good ones.
Speaker 1: Like I kind of like it just for the pun
Speaker 1: of the name. Cal Hooker was a great swingeringer. He
Speaker 1: used to go forward wherever you wanted. To he just
Speaker 1: put him there, he'd do it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a good there's there's a lot. There's the McGovern's.
Speaker 3: I just want to see. Yeah, Matthew Pavlich another great one.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So there's a lot of good swingers out there. I'm
Speaker 3: sure we're missing some l RT. We're talking about Lewis
Speaker 3: Roberts Thompson good swing man.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 3: There's got to be some swingers out there. But Darcy
Speaker 3: More good swing man. But we just don't Jamie how
Speaker 3: a good swinger. We'll look ahead because we do have
Speaker 3: Ash Johnson if you're looking for a replacement for it.
Speaker 3: He did just kick five goals against the Dolphins in
Speaker 3: the VFL in a losing side to extra hard to
Speaker 3: kick a.
Speaker 2: Five goes out there and Frankston got the bong goes.
Speaker 1: There's rumour has it there was a saxophone there over
Speaker 1: the weekend they've upgraded their chorus.
Speaker 3: Ned long, massive shining light out of the game on
Speaker 3: the weekend, he was that clean, came.
Speaker 2: In and just like made a difference right away.
Speaker 4: I had a massive difference.
Speaker 3: And you're looking at the Yeah, you're like, oh, that's
Speaker 3: a new number out there. Who's that and that's he
Speaker 3: was picking him up at his feet, he was spinning
Speaker 3: out of tackles, he was clean, he was hitting targets.
Speaker 4: He was great.
Speaker 3: So hopefully we found one there and Ned Long Pendles
Speaker 3: did kick his two hundredth goal, So he's up on you.
Speaker 3: You got a bit of catching to do.
Speaker 2: I've got a few goals to go.
Speaker 3: I think you get back out there, Chrispy. You if
Speaker 3: you kicked them at that rate three goals minutes. If
Speaker 3: you just kick a goal a minute for the rest
Speaker 3: of your career, you might have a chance. But we
Speaker 3: will get to you and your injury. Mason, give us
Speaker 3: an injury update.
Speaker 2: An injury update. I've actually done really well.
Speaker 1: I think as of today, I'm kind of ahead of
Speaker 1: schedule from what they expected, so that's good signs. I'm
Speaker 1: running freely doing all that. There's a little bit of
Speaker 1: like something I need to figure out to be able
Speaker 1: to to be able to play, so we're hoping the
Speaker 1: next few weeks. Yeah, which is kind of crazy to
Speaker 1: think because I wasn't even really able to run like
Speaker 1: a week and.
Speaker 4: A half ago.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so's it's progressed really well in a short amount
Speaker 1: of time, which is a good sign. And yeah, it's
Speaker 1: exciting to get back into drills, like I'm actually doing
Speaker 1: kicking off with the team and things along that nature.
Speaker 1: So you feel like you're back in it. You feel
Speaker 1: like you're back part of it. Rather being on the
Speaker 1: side doing rehab and just running straight lines, you're actually
Speaker 1: in drills doing different things.
Speaker 2: So it is.
Speaker 1: It's progressing really well and we're happy with it. And
Speaker 1: you know, obviously with a situation that's going on at
Speaker 1: the club, you know you want to be back there
Speaker 1: as soon as possible to help fill that toll role.
Speaker 1: But you know, the body will do what the body
Speaker 1: wants to do and hopefully we can see me back
Speaker 1: out there in a few weeks.
Speaker 3: So it's just back. It's now it's down to your knees.
Speaker 3: So the rest is good.
Speaker 2: The rest is good.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I got the cheek bones all figured out, the ribs
Speaker 1: all sorted, the hands going looking good. What else do
Speaker 1: I screw up? Concussion's fine, just like cut them off
Speaker 1: on my fingers. I'll get to the second hand. So
Speaker 1: let's sort that out now.
Speaker 3: It's like, so you'd say you're fresh and ready to
Speaker 3: rock for the last part of the season.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we'll be roaring and rearing, rearing and roaring
Speaker 1: the gate.
Speaker 3: I like, let's look at the preview for the rest
Speaker 3: of the games for the week colling with Geelong, it
Speaker 3: doesn't get any easier for you guys. Gelong off a
Speaker 3: win Hawthorne Freemantle in lawn Sestonet. That's going to be
Speaker 3: a very interesting.
Speaker 2: You think that's going to be What do you think
Speaker 2: of that one?
Speaker 4: I'm going free.
Speaker 1: Yeah, obviously we're gonna go calling on the first one,
Speaker 1: that's a given. But yes, Hawthorne versus three at lawn Sesteon.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well freo. Actually, I feel like they play there
Speaker 3: a bit. They always put those, you know, interstate teams.
Speaker 2: Down in schedules.
Speaker 1: Not great, is it. I want to go halforn of that.
Speaker 1: I want to have a little bit of an upset there.
Speaker 1: I've got Hawthorn beaten Free out.
Speaker 4: I don't even know if it's an upset. I don't
Speaker 4: know what the odds would be on that one.
Speaker 2: That's the crazy the weekend, So.
Speaker 3: Sydney North I feel I feel so bad.
Speaker 4: This is Sydney coming off two losses in a row.
Speaker 3: At the giving them false economy. They like think that
Speaker 3: they're good again and they're not as good as Sydney.
Speaker 3: So Sydney plus plus ten goals, Western Dogs Carlton.
Speaker 4: I gotta go Carleton Marble.
Speaker 3: Although yeah, but Carlton's Marvel too bro so like yeah,
Speaker 3: I feel like Carlton are just that bloody good and
Speaker 3: they like they just came up against a bloody good
Speaker 3: team on the weekend.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm going to actually, you know stuff you
Speaker 1: I'm going Western Bulldogs. I have the Bulldogs beating Carlton
Speaker 1: at Marvel.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I feel like teams like Saint Kilda last week when
Speaker 3: they had their back against the wall.
Speaker 4: This week they win that next game.
Speaker 2: Yep, and then has been very much that story all season.
Speaker 3: Adelaide, Saint Kilda, Adelaide oval as up. I give it
Speaker 3: to Adelaide just at Adelaide Oval. I want to get
Speaker 3: back on the Saints. Yeah, the Saints and watching end mate,
Speaker 3: you get sorted. Ah, can I be Sydney last week.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna because I see what you're going to do
Speaker 3: here with your cock clocks. I'm just going to give
Speaker 3: mine to Sydney. Yeah, okayshere else that a safe safe one?
Speaker 4: Wow, Melbourne Essenon at the GI I'm going to give
Speaker 4: this to that.
Speaker 1: That's a very good game. Jeez Max. If Max Gon
Speaker 1: is out, give.
Speaker 4: It to Yeah, interesting game.
Speaker 1: I don't know who Melbourne's going to try to put
Speaker 1: in the middle, but Drooper is gonna have a day out.
Speaker 4: Gold Coast Suns versus Port at People's First.
Speaker 1: Yo, I can't chop off my team. I love Ken Henckley.
Speaker 1: We know that on this podcast. We love him to
Speaker 1: their death. The Gold Coast Suns unfitted at home, Yeah,
Speaker 1: they need to get back on it.
Speaker 2: Dims fired up. Poor's going to get fired up.
Speaker 5: Where you get this dub for the people because it's
Speaker 5: People's First stadium.
Speaker 4: Brother, see and I assume that your cock club.
Speaker 2: That's the cock clock of the week.
Speaker 3: Damn straight because that's yeah. I like Port being back
Speaker 3: and I really if they it's.
Speaker 4: A win win for me.
Speaker 3: I reckon if you know if are going to win,
Speaker 3: we're all happy here. If if Gold Coast lose it
Speaker 3: home and they're losing away, Dimmer is going to have
Speaker 3: to He's going to start dropping sea bombs next because
Speaker 3: you can't f bomb them to wins. Richmond GWS the
Speaker 3: g nah no nah nah nah GWS. They're back at
Speaker 3: Jesse Hogan. It's his old stomping ground. You'll probably kick six.
Speaker 3: Got a bit of room to move down there. West
Speaker 3: Coast Brisbane optus ooh danger Gate.
Speaker 2: Nah, Brisbane are back.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Brisbane are back and go on Brisbane won't
Speaker 1: get the dub over there.
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Speaker 2: Yeah on the day, and we give love to the
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Speaker 3: how it all works. I don't you know how social
Speaker 3: media works. Give this one to bell. If you could
Speaker 3: be friends with any fictional character, who would it be
Speaker 3: and why? Any fictional character, movie character, cartoon character.
Speaker 1: That's a good question. I'm a big Marvel fan, so
Speaker 1: I think just like Tony Stark, how coulould it be
Speaker 1: to be friends with Tony Stark?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I mean he just rock up to his house. The
Speaker 1: thing just throws the Iron Man suit on. You go
Speaker 1: for a little fly round California. You know, just a
Speaker 1: why not? You know, maybe the house falls into the
Speaker 1: ocean because someone's attacking you and trying to ruin the university.
Speaker 1: That could possibly happen. I know that's the risk we're taking,
Speaker 1: but I think it's worth.
Speaker 2: It, I really do.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a good one.
Speaker 3: I reckon maybe Wiley Coyote because if I maybe he's
Speaker 3: got pop Eye, if he's got two.
Speaker 4: People, maybe we can catch that fucking road runner who.
Speaker 2: Can finally get them.
Speaker 5: We can finally get the imagine that the anchor always
Speaker 5: gets you.
Speaker 4: He looks and he's got.
Speaker 3: One eye on the coyote, but he does and seeing
Speaker 3: the cock come up behind.
Speaker 4: Just wrapping up, that's.
Speaker 2: My behind story.
Speaker 4: It's my last name.
Speaker 3: For those listening, we got h or any nineteen ninety
Speaker 3: three best Fourth of July memory.
Speaker 1: Yeah, shout out to everyone that celebrated Fourth of July,
Speaker 1: whether you're American or not but far Fourth of July
Speaker 1: bit of a story where we used to go every
Speaker 1: single year to Willie Nelson's Fourth of July picnic.
Speaker 4: Was he there?
Speaker 1: He was there for like I think he's still doing it,
Speaker 1: to be honest, him and his family running. It's like
Speaker 1: forty or fifty years going strong. Used to be out
Speaker 1: in the middle of nowhere in like Luke and Mack,
Speaker 1: Texas or something, and as kids we would go there
Speaker 1: and like I think most people know Willie Nelson, yeah,
Speaker 1: fan of marijuana, Well, yeah, smokes the reefer on his own, right,
Speaker 1: like doesn't mind it. As kids, you know, you're five, six, seven, eight, nine,
Speaker 1: ten years.
Speaker 2: Old, you didn't know what that was.
Speaker 1: As an adult, I know what that smell is, right,
Speaker 1: So I did now an adult realizing that I was
Speaker 1: taken by my parents to essentially a marijuana festival of
Speaker 1: country music every single year for Fourth of Drive. Look,
Speaker 1: don't get me wrong, fireworks fan pastic It is so
Speaker 1: funny to me, but that was always my go to member.
Speaker 1: I used to watch Willie Nelson just absolutely killed on
Speaker 1: the guitar and just smoke a ton of marijuana, and
Speaker 1: everyone out.
Speaker 2: There was too. But I just was always like, oh,
Speaker 2: they're smoking.
Speaker 3: Cigarettes, filthy, He's just out there. Kisa Dodson, Apologies, Have.
Speaker 4: I got that wrong?
Speaker 3: What's a fear? You're yet to conquer heights? I was
Speaker 3: thinking commitment.
Speaker 2: Commitments up there to commitments. I actually commitment commitments probably
Speaker 2: the top.
Speaker 4: Why is why a tall people so scared of heights?
Speaker 1: I think it's just like it's you know, the taller
Speaker 1: you are, the further you have to fall, and you
Speaker 1: know how hard, like how much it hurts whenever you
Speaker 1: hit the ground. So then if you just add in
Speaker 1: extra height, it just makes it even worse.
Speaker 4: Same goes for commitment.
Speaker 3: The more you love, the harder you fall. Uh, no
Speaker 3: one of us have any I don't have any fears.
Speaker 4: I'm pretty feeling spiders, no feelings, pretty fearless.
Speaker 2: You would jump in the water with sharks? Yeah, you're
Speaker 2: kidding yourself.
Speaker 4: No, I think I space. I subscribe heavily. Ignorance is bliss.
Speaker 2: Ignorance is bliss.
Speaker 4: Yeah, trying not to think about it.
Speaker 1: If you went to Port Lincoln and there was a
Speaker 1: great white shark in the water after you jumped it,
Speaker 1: you'd be okay getting in it.
Speaker 3: If someone was like, oh, get in we've trained them
Speaker 3: or something. I'd be like, all right, I just believe people.
Speaker 3: I just believe people getting this cage. We've reinforced it
Speaker 3: as strong as they can't buy. Okay, can I get Like,
Speaker 3: if I did bungee jumping, I'm not questioning the rope,
Speaker 3: If I jumped out of a plane, I'm not questioning
Speaker 3: the parachute.
Speaker 4: If like, I don't question and stuff.
Speaker 2: I just just do it. I just do it. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I almost suffocated to death when I was younger, and
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't have claustrophobia or anything.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 3: Maybe I'm just too dumb to get scared or something.
Speaker 3: But yeah, anyway, I don't have anything.
Speaker 4: Yeah, move moo.
Speaker 2: Three.
Speaker 4: This is a great one.
Speaker 3: Would you rather never go back to America again or
Speaker 3: be single forever?
Speaker 2: It's such an odd question.
Speaker 4: I love it.
Speaker 2: Never go back to America again or be single forever? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Man, I love my parents. It'd be tough to say
Speaker 1: no to them. I think I just had to be
Speaker 1: single forever and just be loved by everyone.
Speaker 4: To be fair, it's pretty close to that being the truth.
Speaker 2: I mean, we're essentially living it right now. It's pretty
Speaker 2: right now.
Speaker 4: Being single forever.
Speaker 2: Jeez. Yeah, well single as in like not married.
Speaker 4: No, just like things like I'm.
Speaker 1: Not allowed to like physical things happened between you and
Speaker 1: a woman.
Speaker 4: No, I know you can. You can have sex.
Speaker 2: That's calmed down with the word man.
Speaker 4: What do you think it is? Something different?
Speaker 2: Who? Whoa?
Speaker 1: All? Right?
Speaker 2: Sinsor that? Please?
Speaker 1: That good to know what your favorite is that. Let's
Speaker 1: move on to the next question.
Speaker 3: We got Jessica Mackie. Do you know any AFL players
Speaker 3: who are vegan?
Speaker 1: I do, Actually, I'm pretty sure Jordan Roughhead was whenever
Speaker 1: he was playing. He's still coaching, and does that. Chris
Speaker 1: Maine was vegan?
Speaker 2: What has it been? Reid went vegan for a little
Speaker 2: bit too back in the day.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it was his wife's a natural paths so
Speaker 1: very into health and holistic kind of stuff, so they
Speaker 1: were vegan. Yeah, there are players that are vegan. I
Speaker 1: think it's it's it's one of those things is we
Speaker 1: have lunch catered to the club, right for like two
Speaker 1: three days a week, and they do have like their
Speaker 1: separate the vegan pan, right. You know, you always have
Speaker 1: that friend that's the vegan that sits at the table
Speaker 1: and always has to ask the question to the waiter.
Speaker 2: Oh, I hate to tell you, I'm vegan. The waiter's
Speaker 2: going it's.
Speaker 4: Like, what can I get on the right, And the
Speaker 4: answer is always, oh, chips, Yeah, chips, we got salad,
Speaker 4: a salad. We can take the chicken out of it.
Speaker 4: Like it's always like an afterthought thing.
Speaker 2: Well, you got to go to like a vegan restaurants.
Speaker 4: See O the one the pescatarians. You can eat fish.
Speaker 1: You can eat fish, but you can't eat meat. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know. There's too many of them nowadays. I
Speaker 1: can't think of it. It's like religions. I'll go into
Speaker 1: like some other questions because I put this out there
Speaker 1: to the world. I haven't really experienced local footy very much. Right,
Speaker 1: and the VFL team went down to Franks, and Franks
Speaker 1: is known for its bongos, right, and they drum those
Speaker 1: up the whole time. It's a bit of a show there.
Speaker 1: Then they have the saxophone this week. You know, they
Speaker 1: do anything to make the ridiculous, most ridiculous noises noises
Speaker 1: you could think of. I asked her, I said, what's
Speaker 1: the weirdest thing you've kind of seen? It? A foot
Speaker 1: ground and these are some of the answers that we got.
Speaker 1: I think there's still things out there. I mean you
Speaker 1: talk about the pig on the field, pigt full forward, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 2: Things like that.
Speaker 1: We had one person, Zach Matthews, came in and they said,
Speaker 1: playing footy in the country and they had forty four
Speaker 1: gallon jumps loved the best siscificity or wherever the hell
Speaker 1: that word is specific nature of forty four gallon jumps
Speaker 1: with fires in them around the ground. Yeah, So they're
Speaker 1: essentially being watched by homeless people just having to burn
Speaker 1: around the around the ground.
Speaker 2: Is that the idea? Is it? Do you not?
Speaker 3: You just can tins stand around a barrel of fire
Speaker 3: and watch the boys slip around the mud for a bit.
Speaker 2: Does that actually happen in footing ground? Yeah? Have you
Speaker 2: seen that personally the footing ground?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Forty four gallons drumps? Is that a thing?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: That's a little surd Can you what can you do
Speaker 2: that to the vfl Yeah?
Speaker 4: Like the metal ones.
Speaker 3: You get the metal barrels, you stab some holes in there, spores.
Speaker 2: And stuff on it.
Speaker 1: You know, you rost the marshmallow and you bring the
Speaker 1: little gram crackers out of get bit Hershey's Chocolate Real.
Speaker 3: Go up to the canteen and ask the canteen lady
Speaker 3: for a couple of tins and a couple of.
Speaker 1: The weirdest thing you've seen in a canteen. So much
Speaker 1: showed me the thing the other day. It was a
Speaker 1: whole like a sandwich with dim sims in it.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we used to do what was it, a
Speaker 3: sausage roll in a hot cheese roll. That's great though,
Speaker 3: that's some carbs though, but you get off eat a
Speaker 3: sausage roll and then you used to have a bread
Speaker 3: roll with cheese in it that would get grilled, and
Speaker 3: then you'd put the sausage roll in that, and then
Speaker 3: you'd cover that.
Speaker 4: In sauce and then you'd eat that. Jesus how many calories?
Speaker 1: And this is another thing that kind of reminds me
Speaker 1: of that HSP Like what important time did we just go?
Speaker 1: You know what, let's just have a suicide of stuff
Speaker 1: where we're just gonna throw it all in there and
Speaker 1: just put as many sauces on top as possible and
Speaker 1: then eat.
Speaker 2: The damn thing.
Speaker 3: I think, I think in terms of the terrible mix
Speaker 3: like people in the UK have it the worst where
Speaker 3: they're like like it's like Indian food with like chips
Speaker 3: and like gravy, and like they just like take bits
Speaker 3: and pieces and they remix it all together and they
Speaker 3: just do it terribly.
Speaker 1: I mean the poutine in Canada is pretty poutine. Yeah,
Speaker 1: poutine is you get your mind in a hold at
Speaker 1: the moment. So I'm not going to even go on that.
Speaker 1: Another person said William Mayhew and Mayhew mayn Someone doing
Speaker 1: a handstand taking a mark.
Speaker 2: With their feet. Do you think you could do that? No,
Speaker 2: one thousand tries. Do you think you could do it? Once?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 3: If someone was lobbing it up to me and stuff
Speaker 3: mark the ball nause I can't even handstand.
Speaker 2: You get a step one that's very interesting.
Speaker 1: One another one and wagga a man on the mark
Speaker 1: dropping his shorts and costs costing his team a fifty
Speaker 1: penalty in the final quarter.
Speaker 2: The game. That's it. That's such a unique thing, dude.
Speaker 2: That was like, there's families at this game.
Speaker 3: Like when what's his name climb the behind post, it's
Speaker 3: like coming in like you're coming up with it on
Speaker 3: the fly, but it's illegal.
Speaker 1: That's it for the weird wacky things. We see at
Speaker 1: football grounds. I'd love to hear more. To be honest,
Speaker 1: I want to hear some really wacky, weird stuff because
Speaker 1: I feel.
Speaker 3: The best foods, like the best foods we put up
Speaker 3: a little pole.
Speaker 4: We got some of those going.
Speaker 3: But I feel like each ground, like the burrough Burgers example,
Speaker 3: each ground has their own like little niche canteen food.
Speaker 3: There's got to be nominate your club for the best food.
Speaker 3: What's your clubs?
Speaker 2: Milk and like chicken and chicken tinders and chips.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's got to be something a bit more special
Speaker 4: than that.
Speaker 2: I think they still.
Speaker 1: I know this sounds really wrong in the way I'm
Speaker 1: saying it is probably makes no sense, but like I
Speaker 1: would crush some sushi at a footy ground.
Speaker 2: Nah no, Nah, I'm weird. I love sushi, man, I
Speaker 2: just crush it over.
Speaker 3: It's like when we go to like Alice Springs or
Speaker 3: whatever for the footy and people are buying like the
Speaker 3: seafood basket. You're like, you're literally the first, You're the
Speaker 3: furthest place on the planet Earth from the ocean. Why
Speaker 3: would you buy hit the seafood bus?
Speaker 2: I think that's going to be fresh by any means.
Speaker 2: Let's let's get a little.
Speaker 1: Poll out there figure out what people really want to
Speaker 1: see at the footy or even some of the weirdest
Speaker 1: things you've seen in the canteen at the footy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd love to hear that, all right.
Speaker 1: Well, before we finish up, I do want to give
Speaker 1: one last shout out. There is an incredible man who's
Speaker 1: been a massive part of my life and part of
Speaker 1: my career that's helped me be successful in someone that
Speaker 1: value at a very very high level, that's had an
Speaker 1: unfortunate diagnosis of I'm gonna say it's probably wrong, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna announce it ron Non.
Speaker 2: Hodgkins lynd Foma. Is that right? Yes, his Mayn.
Speaker 1: He's a great man man that's been part of the
Speaker 1: Calling Football Club and has been around for a long time.
Speaker 1: Anthony Rocker as people know him as Pebs, has been
Speaker 1: diagnosed with us and it's it's one of those things
Speaker 1: we do give a lot of love on this podcast,
Speaker 1: and we as we always say, we say prayers up
Speaker 1: to the people you know we want to see be
Speaker 1: healthy and and get back to the best. So before
Speaker 1: we get out of here, I do want to say
Speaker 1: a massive prayers up to Pebs. He's an absolute legend,
Speaker 1: a man I can't talk highly enough about. And I
Speaker 1: know he's going to absolutely smash this and be able
Speaker 1: to win this fight, so massive shout out to him
Speaker 1: before we get on out of here.
Speaker 3: He's a lovely bloke, funny, a good sense of humor,
Speaker 3: dry sense of humor. Sometimes you don't know when he's
Speaker 3: coming at you when he's making a joke. But we
Speaker 3: loved him on Lily Street when we used to do
Speaker 3: Lowly Street back in the day for the Collingwood Footy Club.
Speaker 3: But great man, love your PEVs. Prayers up and all
Speaker 3: the best with the recovery.
Speaker 2: But that is it from us today.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for listening in and having us
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Speaker 2: But that is it for us for this week.
Speaker 1: Have an incredible day, May your tipping go very well,
Speaker 1: and may you have an incredible weekend.
Speaker 2: Cheers always, please