Speaker 1: Flex and Frooms, Flex and Frooms.
Speaker 2: This is the Flex and Frooms.
Speaker 1: Catch up podcast.
Speaker 3: Oh we just meant to speak at the same time.
Speaker 1: What does that mean? Jinx let me think O. Good
Speaker 1: luck for the next three years.
Speaker 4: The shoulders are looking so good. Really, yeah, you look
Speaker 4: jacked for a second. For a second thing excited?
Speaker 2: The fuck I have been?
Speaker 1: Have I been doing anything with my arms? No?
Speaker 2: No, you've been surfing to roll a lady.
Speaker 3: Yes, so none of these use my arms except for
Speaker 3: the surfing anyway, I said the sort of say, welcome
Speaker 3: to the Flexing Frooms podcast.
Speaker 1: I have been.
Speaker 3: I was docked a few weeks ago about not cleaning
Speaker 3: my water bottle. So everyone who said I'm dirty eat me?
Speaker 2: Okay for me?
Speaker 4: My ass dos like she's not obsessed with the fact
Speaker 4: that I'm always documenting her everything within her loves to
Speaker 4: be the apple.
Speaker 2: Of my eye. She's obsessed. Yes, sam Sammy, you tag me.
Speaker 4: So the doxing of the water bottle is just us
Speaker 4: trying to do some market reads sch on what is
Speaker 4: normal and not normal.
Speaker 2: We're not a good judge of character for that.
Speaker 1: Why I am I always the festy one.
Speaker 3: Nobody knows that I'm actually really clean when I want
Speaker 3: to be That is an outdated narrative.
Speaker 2: Just you wait, and that is a twenty eighteen narrative. Bait,
Speaker 2: that's a twenty eighteen narrative.
Speaker 3: One day you're gonna come over to my house and
Speaker 3: you're gonna be like, well, she was hiding this along.
Speaker 3: She's a neat freak, she's a queen, she's a boss,
Speaker 3: she's a really good cook, she's a WiFi.
Speaker 2: Rocky disagrees.
Speaker 3: I feel like you're going to do the whole like
Speaker 3: year spring clean.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just to impress Flex.
Speaker 3: You know what, you guys are both going to be
Speaker 3: eating your words and then I'm gonna Jason good, All right.
Speaker 2: Let's go.
Speaker 1: You're listening to Flex and Rooms on Caita. I.
Speaker 4: Like most people watch a lot of TV. No, I
Speaker 4: wouldn't say I watch it every day, but if I'm
Speaker 4: going too, I'm going to binge the whole season. And
Speaker 4: a couple of weeks ago, we had an interview with
Speaker 4: Kitlyn Stacey, who is one of the leads in the
Speaker 4: new Amazon Prime show Class Verse seven. And if the
Speaker 4: interview is amazing, you can listen to it on Flex
Speaker 4: and Rooms. The podcast maybe get good wherever you get
Speaker 4: good podcasts, but we did that interview. I watched episode,
Speaker 4: I went back to watch the whole season, and if
Speaker 4: you're not across it, it's about The synopsis on Google
Speaker 4: says a title wave hits as a group of women
Speaker 4: celebrate their ten year reunion from an all girls' school.
Speaker 4: The former students must find a way to survive on
Speaker 4: the island tip of their high school campus. So what
Speaker 4: that sounds like is I don't know, Lost or World
Speaker 4: WARZ or the Walking Dead. But it's so much more
Speaker 4: than that, because as you begin to watch this show,
Speaker 4: you realize that the apocalypse is second to the interpersonal
Speaker 4: drama that happens when you don't process anything from being
Speaker 4: an adolescent. And when I was watching the show, I
Speaker 4: was really prepared for them to show us their survival
Speaker 4: skills and you know, how are they going to cook?
Speaker 4: And how are they going to shower? And you know,
Speaker 4: how are they going to what happens when they're on
Speaker 4: the period? And that was so secondary to the fact
Speaker 4: that watching these relationships that had essentially been dormant for
Speaker 4: ten years be re juvenated, and not in a way
Speaker 4: that was adult or mature or progressive. They'd all regressed
Speaker 4: into their adolescent selves because none of them had gotten
Speaker 4: over the trauma they experienced in high school, and they
Speaker 4: were all under the impression that time and time alone
Speaker 4: would would be enough to make it better. And so
Speaker 4: imagine you're in the literal apocalypse. The whole world has flooded.
Speaker 4: Right from what you can understand, You're on the top
Speaker 4: of the hill. The whole world has flooded. It's just
Speaker 4: you and these ten other girls, and you don't want
Speaker 4: to eat dinner with another girl because in high school.
Speaker 2: She bullied you.
Speaker 4: And it's like you're currently experiencing a life or death scenario,
Speaker 4: and yet the trauma of what you experienced in your
Speaker 4: most formative years is taking precedent. I couldn't deal And
Speaker 4: it reminded me of this interview I was watching with
Speaker 4: this I would say, he's a philosopher, doctor Gabor Marte,
Speaker 4: and he was talking a lot. He talks a lot
Speaker 4: about healing and the myth of healing and how a
Speaker 4: lot of us think that time is what's going to
Speaker 4: heal us from friendship breakups and you know, romantic breakups
Speaker 4: or hence relationships with our parents, or really embarrassing things
Speaker 4: that we've been through, we're just waiting to get over it.
Speaker 2: And what ends up happening is that we don't actually
Speaker 2: get over it.
Speaker 4: We just shift our focus, or we suppress, or we repress,
Speaker 4: or we tell ourselves stories to make us more comfortable
Speaker 4: with what we've experienced. And he says time gives you
Speaker 4: the time and space required to heal. You know, the
Speaker 4: more time you give yourself to get over something, the
Speaker 4: more likely is you actually get over it. And this
Speaker 4: idea that if you just repress it you'll feel better,
Speaker 4: what ends up happening is that you reach a boiling
Speaker 4: point where you're no longer in control of how it
Speaker 4: affects you, and now you become destabilized in a very
Speaker 4: vulnerable place and with no discernible tools to get out
Speaker 4: of it. So it's a big wake up call because
Speaker 4: I know a lot of us go through stuff that
Speaker 4: we feel like we don't have the room to talk
Speaker 4: about because it happened when we were young, or it
Speaker 4: was just like not a big deal, or everyone we
Speaker 4: talk to about it makes us feel like it's not important.
Speaker 4: But if you feel like something's bothering you, you have
Speaker 4: a personal responsibility to your to fix it, because like
Speaker 4: it's you and you and your brain and your body
Speaker 4: that has to deal with it, nobody else. And often
Speaker 4: people don't want you to confront your own stuff because
Speaker 4: in some way it impacts the people around you. Like
Speaker 4: if I've got to hold my friend from ten years
Speaker 4: accountable for a conversation that we have, that ruins their day.
Speaker 2: They don't want to deal with that. If I have to.
Speaker 4: Go back and tell uh and it, like tell a
Speaker 4: staff member that they made me feel uncomfortable, will that
Speaker 4: ruins their day?
Speaker 2: They don't want to deal with that. But do you
Speaker 2: have to deal with it alone?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: So what do you do?
Speaker 2: Go to therapy, pape? I don't know, learn how to
Speaker 2: think for yourself?
Speaker 4: That's number one the question, Like I think the big
Speaker 4: thing when it comes to to what do you do
Speaker 4: ask yourself? I think that people externalize personal issues way
Speaker 4: too much, and the Internet made everyone too comfortable with that.
Speaker 4: Some things you need to figure out on your own,
Speaker 4: because what happens is when you seek advice from other people,
Speaker 4: you end up creating a storyline that or you end
Speaker 4: up creating a lifestyle where you can own only grow
Speaker 4: as a person if somebody else feeds into you and
Speaker 4: sometimes you gotta wa water yourself, you know, otherwise you'll
Speaker 4: be barren great which it's difficult to do. You know
Speaker 4: what's difficult to do winged liner.
Speaker 1: And yet I'm doing it with these period with flex.
Speaker 2: And firmes Flex and firms Flex and fromes cater never
Speaker 2: miss a beat.
Speaker 3: Here on the Flex and Froome show, We're party do
Speaker 3: without what you will? Are we going to clubs? Are
Speaker 3: we going to restaurants? Are we going to parties? It's
Speaker 3: for us to know and for you to decide. Hopefully
Speaker 3: we give off the impression that we're a good time.
Speaker 3: Would you agree, Hopefully I just see a certain event,
Speaker 3: like on our phone in the corner, turning the age
Speaker 3: that I am now redacted. I think a lot of
Speaker 3: people that I know have been going through a second
Speaker 3: wind of partying. So obviously, when you're eighteen, you start
Speaker 3: going out to the clubs, you start popping it. Then
Speaker 3: you go through a retractive period, refractory period. If we're
Speaker 3: going to take it there, I would say twenty four
Speaker 3: to twenty six. You're just like cooling the jets a
Speaker 3: little bit, getting into what it's like to be an
Speaker 3: adult with a fully functioning wage et cetera. Then you
Speaker 3: hear twenty seven, twenty seven and a half twenty eight,
Speaker 3: and what happens.
Speaker 1: The party goblin re.
Speaker 3: Emerges, the demon, extra zest and pizzazz. Funny things happen,
Speaker 3: and it turns out I'm not the only one who
Speaker 3: has observed this phenomenon. This is a tea took from
Speaker 3: at Underscore Underscore mull.
Speaker 5: No one talks about that second wave of your party
Speaker 5: era that happens in like your mid to late twenties,
Speaker 5: like you will put your twenty one twenty two year
Speaker 5: old self to absolute shame. It's like, as a unit,
Speaker 5: we all collectively just start pregaming our thirties, Like you
Speaker 5: learn your limits. You have more money to spend while
Speaker 5: going out. It makes it way more dangerous.
Speaker 1: I see the vision here, and I feel like for
Speaker 1: a lot.
Speaker 3: Of people, going out for all hours feels extra exciting
Speaker 3: because you're like, I'm old for this. This is not
Speaker 3: my usual thing. Like I'm getting down with it, Da
Speaker 3: da da da, I'm getting down As I said that,
Speaker 3: like my eyes roll back in my head like the
Speaker 3: inner person because you're black out.
Speaker 2: We're getting down with that. No no, no, no no, Na.
Speaker 4: And your direct Quesfore, I would hope that you know,
Speaker 4: at the Flex and Room show, we party, we go out.
Speaker 5: We got.
Speaker 3: I'm look as we know, I have a boom deep
Speaker 3: inside my body which comes out when we discuss things
Speaker 3: like partying.
Speaker 1: But this is very exciting.
Speaker 3: So if you're twenty seven, twenty eight and you're thinking,
Speaker 3: oh my god, I'm partying again.
Speaker 2: It gets better.
Speaker 3: Everyone had not hot continue enjoying your life.
Speaker 1: You know you're only you only live once, yollow.
Speaker 2: You can't pass for twenty four anymore. We're getting anything
Speaker 2: you age yourself.
Speaker 1: That was really scary.
Speaker 2: You do a pole that really I think they're gonna
Speaker 2: say thirty one.
Speaker 1: You know what?
Speaker 4: That's good Flex and Frooms, same stuff you always loved,
Speaker 4: with a twist because Shiver's regal has graced us with
Speaker 4: this amazing set that you could see if you followed
Speaker 4: us on Instagram at Flex and Rooms.
Speaker 2: Now, for me, I want to give you an opportunity
Speaker 2: to talk about yourself as if I need one.
Speaker 4: I don't do it often, but I'm opening up the
Speaker 4: stage to share.
Speaker 2: It with you equally.
Speaker 4: No, I think that it would be nice to know
Speaker 4: how you got to this point here. Twenty five words
Speaker 4: or less, Where did you start and where are you now?
Speaker 3: I would say that I got to where I am
Speaker 3: now by doing what I do today, which is beat myself.
Speaker 3: No I started, I'd say, my first big break into
Speaker 3: the job that I wanted that I'd always wanted since
Speaker 3: I was a kid, because I've wanted to do this
Speaker 3: since I was a little baby, do what talk and
Speaker 3: be photographed and filmed. To be perfectly honest, I really
Speaker 3: wanted to be a getaway host. I see that, but
Speaker 3: I was kind of like the generation too late. I
Speaker 3: did a viral video as an intern, and then that
Speaker 3: video was picked up by my favorite publication and I
Speaker 3: went for a job. There was above my pay grade,
Speaker 3: I would say, and above my skill set.
Speaker 1: Don't give that away. At the time, I was twenty.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, give it that away.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, But I took it and I stayed there
Speaker 3: for four and a half years, and I became a
Speaker 3: presenter and a producer.
Speaker 1: I learned how to cut videos. One would say, the
Speaker 1: face of it was bandied about. I was in the
Speaker 1: show real I did present.
Speaker 3: The show reel of the company before a sensational excerpt,
Speaker 3: but always with class intact as.
Speaker 2: Per naturally and pre viral video. What was the career path?
Speaker 2: What have we done?
Speaker 3: It's giving university? I studied communication, okay, naturally, any comment
Speaker 3: on that? And yes, so I what kind of jobs
Speaker 3: do you have at Uni? I worked at Lulu Lemon
Speaker 3: as the what was the term? It was like not
Speaker 3: egot but something of that, Oh dofie. So you'd stand
Speaker 3: at the front of the store and they'd call you
Speaker 3: the dofie, which I'm legal, and they would call.
Speaker 1: You director of first Impressions.
Speaker 3: I know, I know, I know, I'm hooked. So I
Speaker 3: was the Dophie for quite a few years at Lulu Lemon,
Speaker 3: and that helped hone my people's skills, which you see
Speaker 3: on camera here in the set. And I also worked
Speaker 3: in a cayyard. As we speak about a lot.
Speaker 4: It's not an interview, though you got the job, I
Speaker 4: actually worked as the dophie, so the director of first impression.
Speaker 4: It's not good like.
Speaker 1: That's definitely why I went through my CEO stint.
Speaker 3: Obviously, the term dophie was a big inspiration for me,
Speaker 3: both comedy wise and also as a real person.
Speaker 2: Sounds empowering.
Speaker 4: Can I ask you if there are any common misconceptions
Speaker 4: about your success.
Speaker 2: Do people ever think you're an neppo baby?
Speaker 3: No. I think any assumption that you make about what
Speaker 3: I was given is probably correct form being perfectly honest,
Speaker 3: and that's fine.
Speaker 2: It doesn't seem fine for me.
Speaker 4: Quite tech.
Speaker 3: ME just haven't really hinda on the fact that I
Speaker 3: worked in Kaya for six months.
Speaker 2: I had. I did my bit. You don't understand. I
Speaker 2: was in there at my dad's place of work. But
Speaker 2: I had to work hard.
Speaker 4: For that job, and I wasn't very good at it.
Speaker 4: But I showed up every other day.
Speaker 3: Three sales in six months, which is that surely a
Speaker 3: record because selling cartent is difficult.
Speaker 4: I wouldn't know, because when I was upsold cartin they
Speaker 4: made me feel so special and so empowered. I was like,
Speaker 4: I need to pay the extra three point two k
Speaker 4: for what?
Speaker 3: And I gotta say, Diddley squat my girl.
Speaker 1: But what about you?
Speaker 3: What are the common misconceptions of your rise to fame
Speaker 3: and success?
Speaker 1: Flex mummy.
Speaker 4: I just think that people similar to my predecessors Beyonce, Rihana,
Speaker 4: those in the lane, people just think it happened quickly
Speaker 4: and it's been ten years. It's a long time to
Speaker 4: do anything. I wasn't planning to work ten years of
Speaker 4: my whole life. You see your parents and they work
Speaker 4: for thirty years, like get a hobby, babe, get off that,
Speaker 4: but yourself and they're still doing it. They're still in
Speaker 4: the office. I would say, yeah, people thought it happened overnight.
Speaker 4: And I would say, I have a lot of different
Speaker 4: job titles. We can rattle them off.
Speaker 3: We don't need to, shall I try? Award winning author,
Speaker 3: best selling the best selling author, award winning podcaster. Yeah,
Speaker 3: multiple podcasts, both made personally and then paid for. Radio
Speaker 3: host designer, Yeah, made very successful card games, multiple things, sold,
Speaker 3: your own a factory.
Speaker 1: You have employees.
Speaker 3: That's probably the most impressive thing that I think people
Speaker 3: don't realize is that you have a whole team.
Speaker 4: But the point is a lot of stuff has happened.
Speaker 4: And I would say the biggest misconception is that I'm
Speaker 4: just an influencer, which I don't mind. But if I
Speaker 4: didn't have to do the other stuff, I wouldn't have Yeah,
Speaker 4: I see, because I don't like to work hard.
Speaker 2: I just have a good work ethic. And that's on that.
Speaker 1: Can I get a who wrong?
Speaker 4: Flix?
Speaker 2: Who wrong?
Speaker 1: This flex and frooms I'm kater.
Speaker 3: Believe it or not, there happens to be a climate
Speaker 3: emergency occurring on the Earth. I know what you're thinking.
Speaker 3: I want to bury my head in the sand. Unfortunately
Speaker 3: some of us don't have that option. Take your mind
Speaker 3: back now to when the climate activists will really poppin'.
Speaker 3: They were throwing soup at works of art, they were
Speaker 3: painting over works of art, they were chaining themselves to trees.
Speaker 3: My personal favorite story was the woman who stopped traffic
Speaker 3: on Sydney Harborbridge. What an iconic moment. Some would say
Speaker 3: it was dangerous, others would say it's warranted. But I
Speaker 3: think she did what every protester wants to do, which
Speaker 3: is to make noise and make a statement.
Speaker 1: What happened to her.
Speaker 3: Her name is Diana Violet Coco, and she was sent
Speaker 3: to prison for a minimum of eight months after pleading
Speaker 3: guilty to seven charges, which include authorized explosive not as prescribed,
Speaker 3: possessing a bright light distress signal in a public place,
Speaker 3: and interfering with the safe operation of a bridge. So basically,
Speaker 3: she just blocked a lane of traffic in the bridge
Speaker 3: in protest of.
Speaker 1: The climate emergency.
Speaker 3: Turns out that just recently, a few weeks ago, her
Speaker 3: eight month imprisonment sentence has been overturned roundo a buse,
Speaker 3: round of a bless This is a very exciting development.
Speaker 3: Someone actually DM me this. I think because I spoke
Speaker 3: about her once on the show. I think it's exciting
Speaker 3: that it's overturned for her because her heart was in
Speaker 3: the right place. She was doing it for all of us,
Speaker 3: and she did what a lot of protesters want to do,
Speaker 3: which is make noise, so she made her point. I
Speaker 3: would love to hear how she's going. I heard that
Speaker 3: she broke down in court when this came about, obviously
Speaker 3: from excitement of not having to go to jail. So
Speaker 3: hopefully we see some changes. Literally not going to be
Speaker 3: holding my breath, you could have some hope in this
Speaker 3: sixth sad world.
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