WEBVTT - Is The Second Wave Party Era True? 🎉 👯🏼‍♀️

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<v Speaker 1>Flex and Frooms, Flex and Frooms.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the Flex and Frooms.

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<v Speaker 1>Catch up podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh we just meant to speak at the same time.

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<v Speaker 1>What does that mean? Jinx let me think O. Good

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<v Speaker 1>luck for the next three years.

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<v Speaker 4>The shoulders are looking so good. Really, yeah, you look

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<v Speaker 4>jacked for a second. For a second thing excited?

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<v Speaker 2>The fuck I have been?

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<v Speaker 1>Have I been doing anything with my arms? No?

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<v Speaker 2>No, you've been surfing to roll a lady.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, so none of these use my arms except for

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<v Speaker 3>the surfing anyway, I said the sort of say, welcome

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<v Speaker 3>to the Flexing Frooms podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>I have been.

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<v Speaker 3>I was docked a few weeks ago about not cleaning

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<v Speaker 3>my water bottle. So everyone who said I'm dirty eat me?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay for me?

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<v Speaker 4>My ass dos like she's not obsessed with the fact

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<v Speaker 4>that I'm always documenting her everything within her loves to

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<v Speaker 4>be the apple.

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<v Speaker 2>Of my eye. She's obsessed. Yes, sam Sammy, you tag me.

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<v Speaker 4>So the doxing of the water bottle is just us

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<v Speaker 4>trying to do some market reads sch on what is

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<v Speaker 4>normal and not normal.

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<v Speaker 2>We're not a good judge of character for that.

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<v Speaker 1>Why I am I always the festy one.

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<v Speaker 3>Nobody knows that I'm actually really clean when I want

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<v Speaker 3>to be That is an outdated narrative.

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<v Speaker 2>Just you wait, and that is a twenty eighteen narrative. Bait,

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<v Speaker 2>that's a twenty eighteen narrative.

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<v Speaker 3>One day you're gonna come over to my house and

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<v Speaker 3>you're gonna be like, well, she was hiding this along.

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<v Speaker 3>She's a neat freak, she's a queen, she's a boss,

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<v Speaker 3>she's a really good cook, she's a WiFi.

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<v Speaker 2>Rocky disagrees.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like you're going to do the whole like

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<v Speaker 3>year spring clean.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, just to impress Flex.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what, you guys are both going to be

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<v Speaker 3>eating your words and then I'm gonna Jason good, All right.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's go.

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to Flex and Rooms on Caita. I.

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<v Speaker 4>Like most people watch a lot of TV. No, I

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<v Speaker 4>wouldn't say I watch it every day, but if I'm

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<v Speaker 4>going too, I'm going to binge the whole season. And

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<v Speaker 4>a couple of weeks ago, we had an interview with

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<v Speaker 4>Kitlyn Stacey, who is one of the leads in the

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<v Speaker 4>new Amazon Prime show Class Verse seven. And if the

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<v Speaker 4>interview is amazing, you can listen to it on Flex

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<v Speaker 4>and Rooms. The podcast maybe get good wherever you get

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<v Speaker 4>good podcasts, but we did that interview. I watched episode,

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<v Speaker 4>I went back to watch the whole season, and if

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<v Speaker 4>you're not across it, it's about The synopsis on Google

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<v Speaker 4>says a title wave hits as a group of women

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<v Speaker 4>celebrate their ten year reunion from an all girls' school.

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<v Speaker 4>The former students must find a way to survive on

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<v Speaker 4>the island tip of their high school campus. So what

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<v Speaker 4>that sounds like is I don't know, Lost or World

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<v Speaker 4>WARZ or the Walking Dead. But it's so much more

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<v Speaker 4>than that, because as you begin to watch this show,

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<v Speaker 4>you realize that the apocalypse is second to the interpersonal

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<v Speaker 4>drama that happens when you don't process anything from being

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<v Speaker 4>an adolescent. And when I was watching the show, I

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<v Speaker 4>was really prepared for them to show us their survival

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<v Speaker 4>skills and you know, how are they going to cook?

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<v Speaker 4>And how are they going to shower? And you know,

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<v Speaker 4>how are they going to what happens when they're on

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<v Speaker 4>the period? And that was so secondary to the fact

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<v Speaker 4>that watching these relationships that had essentially been dormant for

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<v Speaker 4>ten years be re juvenated, and not in a way

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<v Speaker 4>that was adult or mature or progressive. They'd all regressed

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<v Speaker 4>into their adolescent selves because none of them had gotten

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<v Speaker 4>over the trauma they experienced in high school, and they

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<v Speaker 4>were all under the impression that time and time alone

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<v Speaker 4>would would be enough to make it better. And so

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<v Speaker 4>imagine you're in the literal apocalypse. The whole world has flooded.

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<v Speaker 4>Right from what you can understand, You're on the top

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<v Speaker 4>of the hill. The whole world has flooded. It's just

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<v Speaker 4>you and these ten other girls, and you don't want

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<v Speaker 4>to eat dinner with another girl because in high school.

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<v Speaker 2>She bullied you.

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<v Speaker 4>And it's like you're currently experiencing a life or death scenario,

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<v Speaker 4>and yet the trauma of what you experienced in your

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<v Speaker 4>most formative years is taking precedent. I couldn't deal And

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<v Speaker 4>it reminded me of this interview I was watching with

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<v Speaker 4>this I would say, he's a philosopher, doctor Gabor Marte,

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<v Speaker 4>and he was talking a lot. He talks a lot

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<v Speaker 4>about healing and the myth of healing and how a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of us think that time is what's going to

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<v Speaker 4>heal us from friendship breakups and you know, romantic breakups

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<v Speaker 4>or hence relationships with our parents, or really embarrassing things

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<v Speaker 4>that we've been through, we're just waiting to get over it.

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<v Speaker 2>And what ends up happening is that we don't actually

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<v Speaker 2>get over it.

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<v Speaker 4>We just shift our focus, or we suppress, or we repress,

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<v Speaker 4>or we tell ourselves stories to make us more comfortable

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<v Speaker 4>with what we've experienced. And he says time gives you

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<v Speaker 4>the time and space required to heal. You know, the

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<v Speaker 4>more time you give yourself to get over something, the

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<v Speaker 4>more likely is you actually get over it. And this

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<v Speaker 4>idea that if you just repress it you'll feel better,

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<v Speaker 4>what ends up happening is that you reach a boiling

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<v Speaker 4>point where you're no longer in control of how it

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<v Speaker 4>affects you, and now you become destabilized in a very

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<v Speaker 4>vulnerable place and with no discernible tools to get out

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<v Speaker 4>of it. So it's a big wake up call because

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<v Speaker 4>I know a lot of us go through stuff that

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<v Speaker 4>we feel like we don't have the room to talk

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<v Speaker 4>about because it happened when we were young, or it

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<v Speaker 4>was just like not a big deal, or everyone we

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<v Speaker 4>talk to about it makes us feel like it's not important.

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<v Speaker 4>But if you feel like something's bothering you, you have

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<v Speaker 4>a personal responsibility to your to fix it, because like

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<v Speaker 4>it's you and you and your brain and your body

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<v Speaker 4>that has to deal with it, nobody else. And often

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<v Speaker 4>people don't want you to confront your own stuff because

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<v Speaker 4>in some way it impacts the people around you. Like

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<v Speaker 4>if I've got to hold my friend from ten years

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<v Speaker 4>accountable for a conversation that we have, that ruins their day.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't want to deal with that. If I have to.

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<v Speaker 4>Go back and tell uh and it, like tell a

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<v Speaker 4>staff member that they made me feel uncomfortable, will that

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<v Speaker 4>ruins their day?

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<v Speaker 2>They don't want to deal with that. But do you

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<v Speaker 2>have to deal with it alone?

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<v Speaker 3>No?

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<v Speaker 1>So what do you do?

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<v Speaker 2>Go to therapy, pape? I don't know, learn how to

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<v Speaker 2>think for yourself?

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<v Speaker 4>That's number one the question, Like I think the big

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<v Speaker 4>thing when it comes to to what do you do

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<v Speaker 4>ask yourself? I think that people externalize personal issues way

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<v Speaker 4>too much, and the Internet made everyone too comfortable with that.

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<v Speaker 4>Some things you need to figure out on your own,

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<v Speaker 4>because what happens is when you seek advice from other people,

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<v Speaker 4>you end up creating a storyline that or you end

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<v Speaker 4>up creating a lifestyle where you can own only grow

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<v Speaker 4>as a person if somebody else feeds into you and

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<v Speaker 4>sometimes you gotta wa water yourself, you know, otherwise you'll

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<v Speaker 4>be barren great which it's difficult to do. You know

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<v Speaker 4>what's difficult to do winged liner.

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<v Speaker 1>And yet I'm doing it with these period with flex.

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<v Speaker 2>And firmes Flex and firms Flex and fromes cater never

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<v Speaker 2>miss a beat.

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<v Speaker 3>Here on the Flex and Froome show, We're party do

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<v Speaker 3>without what you will? Are we going to clubs? Are

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<v Speaker 3>we going to restaurants? Are we going to parties? It's

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<v Speaker 3>for us to know and for you to decide. Hopefully

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<v Speaker 3>we give off the impression that we're a good time.

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<v Speaker 3>Would you agree, Hopefully I just see a certain event,

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<v Speaker 3>like on our phone in the corner, turning the age

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<v Speaker 3>that I am now redacted. I think a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>people that I know have been going through a second

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<v Speaker 3>wind of partying. So obviously, when you're eighteen, you start

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<v Speaker 3>going out to the clubs, you start popping it. Then

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<v Speaker 3>you go through a retractive period, refractory period. If we're

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<v Speaker 3>going to take it there, I would say twenty four

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<v Speaker 3>to twenty six. You're just like cooling the jets a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit, getting into what it's like to be an

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<v Speaker 3>adult with a fully functioning wage et cetera. Then you

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<v Speaker 3>hear twenty seven, twenty seven and a half twenty eight,

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<v Speaker 3>and what happens.

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<v Speaker 1>The party goblin re.

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<v Speaker 3>Emerges, the demon, extra zest and pizzazz. Funny things happen,

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<v Speaker 3>and it turns out I'm not the only one who

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<v Speaker 3>has observed this phenomenon. This is a tea took from

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<v Speaker 3>at Underscore Underscore mull.

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<v Speaker 5>No one talks about that second wave of your party

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<v Speaker 5>era that happens in like your mid to late twenties,

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<v Speaker 5>like you will put your twenty one twenty two year

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<v Speaker 5>old self to absolute shame. It's like, as a unit,

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<v Speaker 5>we all collectively just start pregaming our thirties, Like you

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<v Speaker 5>learn your limits. You have more money to spend while

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<v Speaker 5>going out. It makes it way more dangerous.

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<v Speaker 1>I see the vision here, and I feel like for

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<v Speaker 1>a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>Of people, going out for all hours feels extra exciting

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<v Speaker 3>because you're like, I'm old for this. This is not

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<v Speaker 3>my usual thing. Like I'm getting down with it, Da

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<v Speaker 3>da da da, I'm getting down As I said that,

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<v Speaker 3>like my eyes roll back in my head like the

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<v Speaker 3>inner person because you're black out.

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<v Speaker 2>We're getting down with that. No no, no, no no, Na.

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<v Speaker 4>And your direct Quesfore, I would hope that you know,

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<v Speaker 4>at the Flex and Room show, we party, we go out.

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<v Speaker 5>We got.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm look as we know, I have a boom deep

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<v Speaker 3>inside my body which comes out when we discuss things

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<v Speaker 3>like partying.

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<v Speaker 1>But this is very exciting.

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<v Speaker 3>So if you're twenty seven, twenty eight and you're thinking,

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<v Speaker 3>oh my god, I'm partying again.

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<v Speaker 2>It gets better.

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<v Speaker 3>Everyone had not hot continue enjoying your life.

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<v Speaker 1>You know you're only you only live once, yollow.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't pass for twenty four anymore. We're getting anything

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<v Speaker 2>you age yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>That was really scary.

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<v Speaker 2>You do a pole that really I think they're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>say thirty one.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what?

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<v Speaker 4>That's good Flex and Frooms, same stuff you always loved,

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<v Speaker 2>Now, for me, I want to give you an opportunity

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about yourself as if I need one.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't do it often, but I'm opening up the

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<v Speaker 4>stage to share.

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<v Speaker 2>It with you equally.

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<v Speaker 4>No, I think that it would be nice to know

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<v Speaker 4>how you got to this point here. Twenty five words

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<v Speaker 4>or less, Where did you start and where are you now?

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<v Speaker 3>I would say that I got to where I am

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<v Speaker 3>now by doing what I do today, which is beat myself.

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<v Speaker 3>No I started, I'd say, my first big break into

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<v Speaker 3>the job that I wanted that I'd always wanted since

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<v Speaker 3>I was a kid, because I've wanted to do this

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<v Speaker 3>since I was a little baby, do what talk and

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<v Speaker 3>be photographed and filmed. To be perfectly honest, I really

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<v Speaker 3>wanted to be a getaway host. I see that, but

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<v Speaker 3>I was kind of like the generation too late. I

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<v Speaker 3>did a viral video as an intern, and then that

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<v Speaker 3>video was picked up by my favorite publication and I

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<v Speaker 3>went for a job. There was above my pay grade,

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<v Speaker 3>I would say, and above my skill set.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't give that away. At the time, I was twenty.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, okay, give it that away.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah, But I took it and I stayed there

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<v Speaker 3>for four and a half years, and I became a

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<v Speaker 3>presenter and a producer.

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<v Speaker 1>I learned how to cut videos. One would say, the

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<v Speaker 1>face of it was bandied about. I was in the

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<v Speaker 1>show real I did present.

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<v Speaker 3>The show reel of the company before a sensational excerpt,

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<v Speaker 3>but always with class intact as.

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<v Speaker 2>Per naturally and pre viral video. What was the career path?

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<v Speaker 2>What have we done?

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<v Speaker 3>It's giving university? I studied communication, okay, naturally, any comment

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<v Speaker 3>on that? And yes, so I what kind of jobs

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<v Speaker 3>do you have at Uni? I worked at Lulu Lemon

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<v Speaker 3>as the what was the term? It was like not

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<v Speaker 3>egot but something of that, Oh dofie. So you'd stand

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<v Speaker 3>at the front of the store and they'd call you

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<v Speaker 3>the dofie, which I'm legal, and they would call.

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<v Speaker 1>You director of first Impressions.

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<v Speaker 3>I know, I know, I know, I'm hooked. So I

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<v Speaker 3>was the Dophie for quite a few years at Lulu Lemon,

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<v Speaker 3>and that helped hone my people's skills, which you see

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<v Speaker 3>on camera here in the set. And I also worked

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<v Speaker 3>in a cayyard. As we speak about a lot.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not an interview, though you got the job, I

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<v Speaker 4>actually worked as the dophie, so the director of first impression.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not good like.

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<v Speaker 1>That's definitely why I went through my CEO stint.

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<v Speaker 3>Obviously, the term dophie was a big inspiration for me,

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<v Speaker 3>both comedy wise and also as a real person.

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<v Speaker 2>Sounds empowering.

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<v Speaker 4>Can I ask you if there are any common misconceptions

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<v Speaker 4>about your success.

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<v Speaker 2>Do people ever think you're an neppo baby?

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<v Speaker 3>No. I think any assumption that you make about what

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<v Speaker 3>I was given is probably correct form being perfectly honest,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's fine.

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't seem fine for me.

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<v Speaker 4>Quite tech.

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<v Speaker 3>ME just haven't really hinda on the fact that I

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<v Speaker 3>worked in Kaya for six months.

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<v Speaker 2>I had. I did my bit. You don't understand. I

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<v Speaker 2>was in there at my dad's place of work. But

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<v Speaker 2>I had to work hard.

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<v Speaker 4>For that job, and I wasn't very good at it.

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<v Speaker 4>But I showed up every other day.

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<v Speaker 3>Three sales in six months, which is that surely a

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<v Speaker 3>record because selling cartent is difficult.

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<v Speaker 4>I wouldn't know, because when I was upsold cartin they

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<v Speaker 4>made me feel so special and so empowered. I was like,

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<v Speaker 4>I need to pay the extra three point two k

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<v Speaker 4>for what?

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<v Speaker 3>And I gotta say, Diddley squat my girl.

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<v Speaker 1>But what about you?

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<v Speaker 3>What are the common misconceptions of your rise to fame

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<v Speaker 3>and success?

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<v Speaker 1>Flex mummy.

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<v Speaker 4>I just think that people similar to my predecessors Beyonce, Rihana,

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<v Speaker 4>those in the lane, people just think it happened quickly

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<v Speaker 4>and it's been ten years. It's a long time to

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<v Speaker 4>do anything. I wasn't planning to work ten years of

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<v Speaker 4>my whole life. You see your parents and they work

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<v Speaker 4>for thirty years, like get a hobby, babe, get off that,

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<v Speaker 4>but yourself and they're still doing it. They're still in

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<v Speaker 4>the office. I would say, yeah, people thought it happened overnight.

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<v Speaker 4>And I would say, I have a lot of different

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<v Speaker 4>job titles. We can rattle them off.

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<v Speaker 3>We don't need to, shall I try? Award winning author,

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<v Speaker 3>best selling the best selling author, award winning podcaster. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>multiple podcasts, both made personally and then paid for. Radio

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<v Speaker 3>host designer, Yeah, made very successful card games, multiple things, sold,

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<v Speaker 3>your own a factory.

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<v Speaker 1>You have employees.

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<v Speaker 3>That's probably the most impressive thing that I think people

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<v Speaker 3>don't realize is that you have a whole team.

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<v Speaker 4>But the point is a lot of stuff has happened.

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<v Speaker 4>And I would say the biggest misconception is that I'm

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<v Speaker 4>just an influencer, which I don't mind. But if I

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<v Speaker 4>didn't have to do the other stuff, I wouldn't have Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I see, because I don't like to work hard.

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<v Speaker 2>I just have a good work ethic. And that's on that.

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<v Speaker 1>Can I get a who wrong?

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<v Speaker 4>Flix?

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<v Speaker 2>Who wrong?

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<v Speaker 1>This flex and frooms I'm kater.

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<v Speaker 3>Believe it or not, there happens to be a climate

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<v Speaker 3>emergency occurring on the Earth. I know what you're thinking.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to bury my head in the sand. Unfortunately

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<v Speaker 3>some of us don't have that option. Take your mind

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<v Speaker 3>back now to when the climate activists will really poppin'.

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<v Speaker 3>They were throwing soup at works of art, they were

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<v Speaker 3>painting over works of art, they were chaining themselves to trees.

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<v Speaker 3>My personal favorite story was the woman who stopped traffic

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<v Speaker 3>on Sydney Harborbridge. What an iconic moment. Some would say

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<v Speaker 3>it was dangerous, others would say it's warranted. But I

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<v Speaker 3>think she did what every protester wants to do, which

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<v Speaker 3>is to make noise and make a statement.

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<v Speaker 1>What happened to her.

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<v Speaker 3>Her name is Diana Violet Coco, and she was sent

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<v Speaker 3>to prison for a minimum of eight months after pleading

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<v Speaker 3>guilty to seven charges, which include authorized explosive not as prescribed,

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<v Speaker 3>possessing a bright light distress signal in a public place,

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<v Speaker 3>and interfering with the safe operation of a bridge. So basically,

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<v Speaker 3>she just blocked a lane of traffic in the bridge

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<v Speaker 3>in protest of.

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<v Speaker 1>The climate emergency.

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<v Speaker 3>Turns out that just recently, a few weeks ago, her

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<v Speaker 3>eight month imprisonment sentence has been overturned roundo a buse,

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<v Speaker 3>round of a bless This is a very exciting development.

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<v Speaker 3>Someone actually DM me this. I think because I spoke

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<v Speaker 3>about her once on the show. I think it's exciting

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<v Speaker 3>that it's overturned for her because her heart was in

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<v Speaker 3>the right place. She was doing it for all of us,

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<v Speaker 3>and she did what a lot of protesters want to do,

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<v Speaker 3>which is make noise, so she made her point. I

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<v Speaker 3>would love to hear how she's going. I heard that

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<v Speaker 3>she broke down in court when this came about, obviously

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<v Speaker 3>from excitement of not having to go to jail. So

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<v Speaker 3>hopefully we see some changes. Literally not going to be

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<v Speaker 3>holding my breath, you could have some hope in this

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<v Speaker 3>sixth sad world.

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