WEBVTT - Kat Stewart - FIVE BEDROOMS - Actor 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:01.760 It's in the news today, but it was actually on 0:00:01.840 --> 0:00:04.760 TV Reload, the podcast last week Their Life. Welcome back 0:00:04.760 --> 0:00:07.360 guys to TV Reload. My name is Benjamin Norris and 0:00:07.400 --> 0:00:09.920 this is your podcast to get all the inside goss 0:00:10.000 --> 0:00:12.360 all the popular TV shows you may be watching from 0:00:12.360 --> 0:00:15.520 around the world. Undeniably, our TV sets are a major 0:00:15.560 --> 0:00:18.360 part of our home entertainment, and yet very little is 0:00:18.400 --> 0:00:21.079 known about how our favorite shows get made. So I've 0:00:21.079 --> 0:00:23.520 been finding guests that want to dive just that little 0:00:23.560 --> 0:00:26.119 bit deeper into the shows they're currently making, so that 0:00:26.200 --> 0:00:28.960 you can hear all exclusive stories and gain access to 0:00:29.000 --> 0:00:31.840 the biggest names in Australian television. I want to thank 0:00:31.880 --> 0:00:35.559 you for downloading or subscribing to this podcast. I particularly 0:00:35.600 --> 0:00:37.879 love hearing your feedback, so make sure you leave a 0:00:37.880 --> 0:00:41.320 comment on your chosen podcast platform. This chat, I'm joined 0:00:41.320 --> 0:00:45.040 by Kat Stewart, one of Australia's most loved actresses. This 0:00:45.120 --> 0:00:47.680 week I had the exciting excuse of calling Kat to 0:00:47.760 --> 0:00:50.880 discuss the fourth season of Five Bedrooms, which launched last 0:00:50.880 --> 0:00:53.760 Sunday on Paramount Plus and will be released weekly from there, 0:00:54.480 --> 0:00:57.040 I can tell you very exciting. The people at Paramount 0:00:57.040 --> 0:01:00.000 Plus have been very kind they've released the first three episodes, 0:01:00.400 --> 0:01:02.760 so there's a massive kickstart to this brand new series. 0:01:03.560 --> 0:01:05.720 If you don't know Cat's Stewart, I believe you might 0:01:05.760 --> 0:01:08.400 be living under a rock. She is definitely an actor's 0:01:08.400 --> 0:01:10.480 actor and all the actors that have worked with her 0:01:10.560 --> 0:01:12.640 will tell you that. And it's no wonder that she's 0:01:12.720 --> 0:01:15.280 always getting ready to talk about a new exciting role. 0:01:15.920 --> 0:01:19.080 And Five Bedrooms, which started out as five friends all 0:01:19.080 --> 0:01:22.520 at very different stages their lives making this bold decision 0:01:22.520 --> 0:01:24.720 to pull their funds together and buy a house, has 0:01:24.800 --> 0:01:27.800 really blossomed into a much loved series set in Melbourne, 0:01:27.880 --> 0:01:30.960 and all audiences have loved it and they can really 0:01:30.959 --> 0:01:33.880 relate to it. I will ask Cat Stewart about why 0:01:33.920 --> 0:01:36.560 she keeps coming back to Five Bedrooms and why she 0:01:36.640 --> 0:01:39.240 has chosen to stay in Australia and not to try 0:01:39.240 --> 0:01:42.640 to chase that elusive US market. Cat will talk about 0:01:42.640 --> 0:01:45.200 her iconic roles and we will get some insights into 0:01:45.240 --> 0:01:48.320 which of her most iconic characters are the most like her. 0:01:48.840 --> 0:01:51.120 We will discuss if Kat thinks that she could survive 0:01:51.160 --> 0:01:54.440 the premise of Five Bedrooms, and which beloved actor had 0:01:54.440 --> 0:01:58.960 his role unexpectedly extended due to COVID last year. Plus, 0:01:59.000 --> 0:02:01.320 we will also get plenty of exclusives from behind the 0:02:01.360 --> 0:02:04.120 scenes of Five Bedrooms, which, as I mentioned, is out 0:02:04.160 --> 0:02:07.440 on Paramount Plus. Now, anyway, let's bring Kat into the 0:02:07.480 --> 0:02:12.760 podcast and guys, I really hope you enjoyed this episode. Hello, Hi, 0:02:12.919 --> 0:02:16.360 how are you. I'm well, I'm very very excited. I 0:02:16.360 --> 0:02:21.200 have to tell you, Oh, me too. You know, the 0:02:21.240 --> 0:02:23.080 amount of times that I have seen you at my 0:02:23.200 --> 0:02:25.960 supermarket and wanted to just quickly pull you aside to 0:02:26.280 --> 0:02:28.560 unpack your career is quite disturbing. 0:02:28.639 --> 0:02:30.840 Do we have the same supermarket? We do? 0:02:31.120 --> 0:02:31.600 Yes, we do. 0:02:31.919 --> 0:02:33.160 Next time you have to stop me. 0:02:33.840 --> 0:02:36.520 Well, during COVID, i'd often see you with your family 0:02:36.720 --> 0:02:39.960 at Homo Oval Yep. Yeah, and so and my partner 0:02:40.000 --> 0:02:42.560 would be like, stop looking at Kat Stewart. She does 0:02:42.639 --> 0:02:44.320 not want to have a sit down interview. 0:02:46.560 --> 0:02:49.000 Oh so you've seen me in all my bedraggled glory ben. 0:02:49.560 --> 0:02:52.320 Yes, and you've also seen me and mine as well, 0:02:52.360 --> 0:02:54.240 except that you don't know who I am. So I'm 0:02:54.280 --> 0:02:56.359 just the creepy guy, the creepy guy at the park. 0:02:57.320 --> 0:02:58.600 Well that's the end of all that. Now I'm going 0:02:58.680 --> 0:02:59.320 to be watching. 0:02:59.080 --> 0:03:03.920 Out Well, look, five Bedrooms is back, and I just 0:03:04.000 --> 0:03:05.799 have to ask you what makes you want to keep 0:03:05.800 --> 0:03:08.240 coming back to and exploring this character. 0:03:08.440 --> 0:03:10.200 I was already in love with the writers. I'd worked 0:03:10.240 --> 0:03:12.839 with Michael Lucas and Christine Buttlett for you know, ten 0:03:12.919 --> 0:03:15.160 years or so oh nine years or something over that 0:03:15.240 --> 0:03:18.639 only many years of Offspring, and then having them asked 0:03:18.680 --> 0:03:21.120 me to do this was just such a kick, because 0:03:21.160 --> 0:03:24.960 I thought, this is really they write enough space that 0:03:25.080 --> 0:03:28.520 I really love. It's not often, obviously, but they know 0:03:28.639 --> 0:03:32.880 how to walk that fine line between heartbreak and comedy, 0:03:33.200 --> 0:03:35.200 and they did that so well, so I knew I 0:03:35.240 --> 0:03:37.680 was in safe hands. And then I fell madly in 0:03:37.680 --> 0:03:39.960 love with the cast. It's a show that I really 0:03:40.040 --> 0:03:41.960 It's the kind of show i'd watch, and it's an 0:03:42.000 --> 0:03:45.240 Australia that I recognize and want to see more of. 0:03:45.400 --> 0:03:48.920 It's inclusive and it's not cookie cutter. They kind of 0:03:49.000 --> 0:03:51.160 there's this disparate group of people that somehow kind of 0:03:51.240 --> 0:03:53.480 managed to make it work with a sense of humor, 0:03:53.480 --> 0:03:54.640 and that's what it's all about. 0:03:54.800 --> 0:03:57.160 Do you think that the show's popularity is a sign 0:03:57.240 --> 0:04:01.760 that more and more Australians have add family archetype. I 0:04:01.760 --> 0:04:03.280 guess you could say, well, yeah, I. 0:04:03.240 --> 0:04:04.840 Think we have for a long time. I mean, I 0:04:04.880 --> 0:04:07.400 think I mean to refer to offspring too much, but 0:04:07.720 --> 0:04:09.720 that was something that was you know, that idea of 0:04:09.760 --> 0:04:12.360 it's not families are the people you choose as well 0:04:12.400 --> 0:04:14.960 as the people that you are born to, and sometimes 0:04:14.960 --> 0:04:17.040 the people you choose, you know, are your real family. 0:04:17.080 --> 0:04:19.600 I think that idea of a kind of a contemporary 0:04:19.600 --> 0:04:22.359 family is something that Australia the world has been a 0:04:22.360 --> 0:04:24.240 part of for a long time, and it's been reflected. 0:04:24.279 --> 0:04:27.719 But yeah, I think Five Bedrooms takes it a step further, 0:04:27.760 --> 0:04:29.800 and I think it also gives us an indication of, 0:04:29.839 --> 0:04:33.080 you know, the housing crisis and you know what the 0:04:33.160 --> 0:04:36.200 challenge is that we face today, but also celebrates what 0:04:36.320 --> 0:04:39.120 kind of holds us together as well. It's an incredibly 0:04:39.400 --> 0:04:42.080 positive and generous hearted show, which is really important to me. 0:04:42.120 --> 0:04:44.839 I feel like we're putting something not sugarcoated, but just 0:04:44.880 --> 0:04:46.320 something positive about into the world. 0:04:46.720 --> 0:04:49.040 I just keep thinking every time I watch a season 0:04:49.080 --> 0:04:51.120 when it comes back, I'm like, can I live with 0:04:51.200 --> 0:04:53.800 four adults? Because I reckon, I'm a nightmare that live 0:04:53.880 --> 0:04:55.640 with I don't think four adults would want to live 0:04:55.680 --> 0:04:58.680 with me. Could you live with four other adults with 0:04:58.760 --> 0:05:00.880 their interconnect loves. 0:05:01.200 --> 0:05:04.000 These four or these five? I could because I adore them. 0:05:04.080 --> 0:05:06.160 In fact, we went away for a weekend with all 0:05:06.200 --> 0:05:08.720 our families and all our kids last series, and that 0:05:08.880 --> 0:05:11.280 was just so much fun. I could. I would make 0:05:11.279 --> 0:05:14.520 an exception for them. I never lived in a sharehouse. 0:05:14.800 --> 0:05:18.560 I stayed at home, and then I moved in with 0:05:18.680 --> 0:05:21.920 a with a boyfriend. So I skipped that hole, and 0:05:21.960 --> 0:05:24.360 I kind of feel a bit sad about that looking back, 0:05:24.560 --> 0:05:27.640 like I skipped that whole era. But yeah, I don't 0:05:27.640 --> 0:05:29.039 know if I could do it. I'd have to be 0:05:29.120 --> 0:05:30.720 very picky with these guys. I think they could. 0:05:30.839 --> 0:05:33.360 You're living sort of vicariously through les anyway, so you've 0:05:33.360 --> 0:05:35.200 had the experience exactly. 0:05:35.400 --> 0:05:37.440 But the other thing is this series is for me, 0:05:37.760 --> 0:05:40.880 the central theme for certainly Liz, and I think you know, 0:05:41.279 --> 0:05:45.480 for the series generally, is when does this arrangement stop 0:05:45.640 --> 0:05:48.640 being a good thing? You know, they were soft landing 0:05:48.640 --> 0:05:50.760 and they looked after each other. They were all kind 0:05:50.760 --> 0:05:53.400 of you know, floating around in the in their lives 0:05:53.560 --> 0:05:55.760 and needing a safe landing space, and they provided that 0:05:55.800 --> 0:05:57.880 for each other. They did become a de facto family, 0:05:58.160 --> 0:06:01.000 But are they now hindering each other at all? And 0:06:01.040 --> 0:06:03.960 I feel that, particularly with Liz and Harry, that perhaps 0:06:04.000 --> 0:06:07.680 maybe they're stopping each other from you know, being, you know, 0:06:07.920 --> 0:06:10.479 pursuing who they really should be. So there's that question 0:06:10.560 --> 0:06:11.960 at the heart of it too, like at what point 0:06:12.120 --> 0:06:15.320 does it out live its usefulness. 0:06:14.760 --> 0:06:17.119 Once you mix people like this. I mean, I feel 0:06:17.120 --> 0:06:20.159 like I'm a fairly extroverted social person, but then I 0:06:20.200 --> 0:06:22.480 feel like the person that I am at home is 0:06:22.560 --> 0:06:26.520 quite introverted, and that's quite complicated to complicating to sometimes 0:06:26.640 --> 0:06:28.840 navigate with people because it's kind of like a bit 0:06:28.839 --> 0:06:31.080 of a duality. And then if you're living with five 0:06:31.120 --> 0:06:34.640 other adults who are navigating their own dualities and then 0:06:34.680 --> 0:06:36.719 putting it all together, I mean, it's a recipe for drama, 0:06:36.920 --> 0:06:38.240 great idea for a TV show. 0:06:38.480 --> 0:06:41.720 Yeah, absolutely, you're so right, because our private and versus 0:06:41.760 --> 0:06:44.440 our public designers are so different. Yeah, no, you're so right. 0:06:44.480 --> 0:06:46.760 So it is complicated, and I think when they went 0:06:46.800 --> 0:06:49.080 into this they didn't really factor that in. 0:06:49.839 --> 0:06:52.479 Is there a storyline that's a particular favorite to you 0:06:52.600 --> 0:06:55.520 now looking back, you know, maybe holistically over the four seasons, 0:06:55.560 --> 0:06:58.839 Like is this something that you've really particularly enjoyed getting 0:06:58.839 --> 0:06:59.920 into the menu. 0:07:00.920 --> 0:07:02.800 I think what we were just discussing in terms of 0:07:02.800 --> 0:07:05.599 when does something stop being healthy is interesting. But also 0:07:06.040 --> 0:07:09.360 we had some glorious We had everyone back this season. 0:07:09.440 --> 0:07:12.880 Last season in series three, we were filming during the 0:07:12.880 --> 0:07:15.800 fifth lockdown. It's probably when we crossed paths on one 0:07:15.800 --> 0:07:19.480 of our walks and so we couldn't get any interstate 0:07:19.560 --> 0:07:22.520 cast in. So we had core cast, but we had 0:07:22.560 --> 0:07:25.880 to recast and the writers had to do radical rewrites 0:07:25.920 --> 0:07:28.840 to make the show happen. So that is a real thrill. 0:07:28.880 --> 0:07:30.240 That was a thrill for all of us just to 0:07:30.280 --> 0:07:33.520 have everyone back after you know, basically two years not 0:07:33.520 --> 0:07:36.680 seeing some of our amazing supporting cast. So that was 0:07:36.800 --> 0:07:39.920 we had people like Tracy Mann and Alan Dukes just 0:07:39.920 --> 0:07:43.160 just glorious. You just wanted them to write. I was 0:07:43.160 --> 0:07:45.560 happy to just be in a scene, not saying anything, 0:07:45.640 --> 0:07:49.000 just watching Tracy Man. That was a real thrill for 0:07:49.080 --> 0:07:52.240 me just generally, but also seeing Kate Jenkinson tear it up. 0:07:52.520 --> 0:07:55.400 She's so funny. I loved. I loved having the guest 0:07:55.440 --> 0:07:56.520 cast back. That meant a lot. 0:07:56.720 --> 0:07:59.920 Who was your favorite Five Bedrooms character that is not 0:08:00.120 --> 0:08:03.760 your own, like is there someone that you particularly really 0:08:03.840 --> 0:08:05.360 enjoy unpacking and watching. 0:08:05.600 --> 0:08:07.520 Oh that's hard because I love them all and it's 0:08:07.520 --> 0:08:10.840 hard to separate the actors from the characters when I 0:08:10.880 --> 0:08:11.280 know so. 0:08:11.200 --> 0:08:14.160 Well, Oh, Sophie is joice, sop is Joe. 0:08:14.160 --> 0:08:17.320 That's what it is, just like that band. What have 0:08:17.360 --> 0:08:19.440 you done? I probably when you know, when I first 0:08:19.560 --> 0:08:22.080 read the very you know, I got sent three scripts 0:08:22.120 --> 0:08:24.720 that were so organized they'd already written three complete scripts 0:08:24.760 --> 0:08:27.640 which barely changed. They were brilliant the very beginning. I thought, 0:08:27.800 --> 0:08:31.040 Heather is an absolute cracker of a character, and Doris 0:08:31.240 --> 0:08:35.160 has done something with her that is so nuanced and 0:08:35.600 --> 0:08:39.880 real and grounded and beautiful. So yeah, I think she's 0:08:39.920 --> 0:08:43.120 extraordinary and in that character is an absolute, absolute cracker. 0:08:43.360 --> 0:08:45.880 It's a beautiful marriage that actor in that way. 0:08:45.960 --> 0:08:48.760 Absolutely, you know, it's one of my favorite Australian. I mean, 0:08:48.800 --> 0:08:50.800 I'm in my forties, so I've grown up with her 0:08:50.880 --> 0:08:52.920 and you know, what was And I've spoken to on 0:08:52.920 --> 0:08:55.319 this podcast about this. You know, we've often seen her 0:08:55.360 --> 0:08:58.600 in secondary characters and she's always bright and steals the scene. 0:08:58.640 --> 0:09:00.679 Like some movies she's in for five minutes and you go, 0:09:00.800 --> 0:09:03.200 oh my god. And so I was really happy to 0:09:03.200 --> 0:09:04.920 see her in this show where she is a main 0:09:05.000 --> 0:09:09.000 character and she is a prominent feature of the story, 0:09:09.000 --> 0:09:10.680 which you know, I feel like has been a long 0:09:10.679 --> 0:09:11.520 time coming for her. 0:09:11.559 --> 0:09:14.440 In some ways, She's always been a queen and just 0:09:14.480 --> 0:09:18.520 to see her getting her rightful, her rightful notices just 0:09:18.600 --> 0:09:20.800 so right. The first time I remember seeing her was 0:09:20.800 --> 0:09:24.440 on See Change. She played the character that the wife 0:09:24.480 --> 0:09:26.840 of Willie McGinnis, so thin she dies after an episode, 0:09:26.880 --> 0:09:31.360 but she was so luminous that you can't you couldn't 0:09:31.360 --> 0:09:32.560 believe that she was in it for such a short 0:09:32.600 --> 0:09:35.040 period of time. She's just magnificent and a great stage 0:09:35.080 --> 0:09:36.280 actor too. She's fantastic. 0:09:36.320 --> 0:09:38.040 I've seen her in pretty much everything. I've seen you 0:09:38.040 --> 0:09:41.240 in pretty much everything as well. My MTC membership is 0:09:41.400 --> 0:09:45.959 mainly because of you, to be fair. Ah, what about 0:09:45.960 --> 0:09:48.720 the chemistry though, you know, do you have particular chemistry 0:09:48.760 --> 0:09:51.400 that you've found maybe even over the years that you 0:09:51.440 --> 0:09:54.199 know it really resonates because you know, you're in this 0:09:54.240 --> 0:09:56.280 with Roger Corsa, not that you know when you're in 0:09:56.360 --> 0:09:59.040 Underbelly you had that many scenes with him, But is 0:09:59.080 --> 0:10:01.440 there an actor that you've every time you're on screen 0:10:01.480 --> 0:10:04.240 you go, oh, this is palpable again. 0:10:04.320 --> 0:10:09.920 You're doing the sofa's choice Bene Roger's another one, and 0:10:10.080 --> 0:10:13.120 he's just delightful. And when he was cast as Stuart, 0:10:13.320 --> 0:10:16.280 I was thrilled and horrified simultaneously because I built up 0:10:16.320 --> 0:10:18.280 the character of Stuart, who we hadn't meant in series 0:10:18.280 --> 0:10:22.120 one as this dastedly, kind of horrible, manipulative older man. 0:10:22.240 --> 0:10:24.800 And then this, you know, dashing Roger Corso's you know, 0:10:25.200 --> 0:10:28.520 charming comes along and you think all of them, it 0:10:28.600 --> 0:10:30.920 was kind of it tipped the scales a bit. I thought, all, wow, 0:10:30.960 --> 0:10:33.320 it makes makes it a lot more believable that Liz 0:10:33.320 --> 0:10:35.920 could find herself in this situation because he's so charming. 0:10:36.160 --> 0:10:39.439 But sorry, going back to your question, I think, do 0:10:39.480 --> 0:10:43.719 you know who really surprised me is Stephen Peacock. That 0:10:43.720 --> 0:10:45.800 man can do That man can do anything. He is 0:10:46.040 --> 0:10:50.680 a I love watching him work. He's so spontaneous and 0:10:50.720 --> 0:10:54.079 he loves throwing in you know, different, a different little 0:10:54.120 --> 0:10:56.719 something in each take. But he's so grounded and he's 0:10:56.720 --> 0:10:59.960 so physical and he's so funny. I just I think 0:11:00.120 --> 0:11:02.040 he's really special. 0:11:02.720 --> 0:11:04.600 Crush on him. And you can't see this because it's 0:11:04.600 --> 0:11:06.840 a podcast and people listening at home, they also can't 0:11:07.200 --> 0:11:10.000 see this, but I'm actually mimicking his hair from this 0:11:10.120 --> 0:11:13.880 series and right now. This is how odd the podcast 0:11:13.960 --> 0:11:15.439 is going to get. People will like if it was 0:11:15.480 --> 0:11:19.120 weird at the start, it's weirder. I just I don't know. 0:11:19.280 --> 0:11:21.280 Maybe I'm trying to mask myself up a little bit, 0:11:21.360 --> 0:11:23.960 but yes, I'm definitely wearing his hair right now, and 0:11:24.040 --> 0:11:27.320 hopefully that will help me with the charm in my life. 0:11:27.720 --> 0:11:30.679 It will. It's like, I think hair's half of it. Honestly, 0:11:30.920 --> 0:11:32.560 hair is everything, as they saying, pleabay. 0:11:34.600 --> 0:11:36.920 And this is another question which is hopefully it's not 0:11:36.920 --> 0:11:38.679 a Sophie's Choice question, but it's These are all the 0:11:38.760 --> 0:11:41.200 questions I've always wanted to ask you. Which character that 0:11:41.240 --> 0:11:44.679 you've played is the most like you? And I'm assuming 0:11:44.679 --> 0:11:46.800 as an actress, you know you are using you know, 0:11:46.880 --> 0:11:49.280 fibers of who you really are. I mean, is Liz 0:11:49.440 --> 0:11:53.080 or Nat Manning from Tangle Billy Proudman? I mean obviously 0:11:53.120 --> 0:11:56.760 not ROBERTA Williams, because you're a gangster's wife. You know, 0:11:57.280 --> 0:11:59.600 it's a particular character that you go, oh, that's probably 0:11:59.600 --> 0:12:01.360 the closest to who I am. 0:12:01.760 --> 0:12:04.720 I think it's sort of hard. I think the longer 0:12:04.720 --> 0:12:07.600 you spend with a character, probably the more you kind 0:12:07.600 --> 0:12:09.720 of melt into each other. I think that was certainly 0:12:09.800 --> 0:12:12.480 the case because I did Billy Crowdman for so many years. 0:12:13.320 --> 0:12:17.480 She started off being quite abrasive, and she sort of softened, 0:12:17.559 --> 0:12:20.000 and I think we kind of met each other sort 0:12:20.000 --> 0:12:23.400 of halfway by the end of it. I think you're right, Ben, 0:12:23.480 --> 0:12:25.920 I think there are elements of me and each character, 0:12:25.920 --> 0:12:28.120 but they're amplified for a particular role, and you try 0:12:28.120 --> 0:12:30.800 and find what's truthful about you when you bring it out. 0:12:30.800 --> 0:12:32.920 But I don't. I need a bit of distance, otherwise 0:12:32.960 --> 0:12:35.240 I'd get self conscious. So I think I'm lucky that 0:12:35.440 --> 0:12:37.400 lucky that I'm not quite any of those people. 0:12:37.559 --> 0:12:39.320 I loved that you said that you didn't go back 0:12:39.320 --> 0:12:41.680 and do Underbelly, because when they asked you to go 0:12:41.720 --> 0:12:43.240 back and do Fat Tony, I can't remember what that 0:12:43.240 --> 0:12:45.760 show is called now, And then you didn't want to 0:12:45.760 --> 0:12:47.679 go back because you didn't want to kind of impersonate 0:12:47.760 --> 0:12:52.040 your performance because you know by that point she'd be Roberta. 0:12:52.120 --> 0:12:54.680 It becomes sort of more prominent in the media, so 0:12:54.720 --> 0:12:56.080 there was different influences. 0:12:56.200 --> 0:12:59.880 So yeah, that's right, that's right. Look, I didn't have 0:12:59.920 --> 0:13:02.040 that access to the real person, and she wasn't nearly 0:13:02.080 --> 0:13:04.079 as famous or she wasn't. You know, there was some 0:13:04.520 --> 0:13:06.160 there was a little bit of footage, but not much. 0:13:06.240 --> 0:13:09.760 So I kind of took some creative license I had 0:13:09.760 --> 0:13:15.240 to in doing that betrayal. And but then going back, 0:13:15.280 --> 0:13:17.680 I would have been working off a different kind of 0:13:17.800 --> 0:13:20.480 completely different kind of set of influences, So yeah, it 0:13:20.960 --> 0:13:23.640 would have been strange. So I think my mate Holly 0:13:23.640 --> 0:13:24.560 Andrew did a great job. 0:13:24.760 --> 0:13:26.720 Yeah, No, she was, she was fantastic. I mean, it's 0:13:26.800 --> 0:13:28.640 very hard to take on a role which has been 0:13:28.679 --> 0:13:31.440 made sort of significant like that. You know, Matt Lucas 0:13:31.800 --> 0:13:33.920 very good friend of his it's m Rossiano, and he 0:13:33.960 --> 0:13:36.000 came out publicly and said that, you know, Billy from 0:13:36.000 --> 0:13:39.040 Offspring was kind of based on his friendship with her. 0:13:39.280 --> 0:13:42.320 Did you ever meet m Rossiano and have a conversation 0:13:42.320 --> 0:13:44.440 about this or did you use her in any way 0:13:44.800 --> 0:13:45.880 to help you with that role? 0:13:46.440 --> 0:13:48.840 See, I have found this out, I think a couple 0:13:48.840 --> 0:13:51.120 of series in Okay, so I didn't find out, and 0:13:51.320 --> 0:13:53.200 I've since got to know him quite well and I 0:13:53.240 --> 0:13:56.040 love her, But I didn't know particularly at the time, 0:13:56.080 --> 0:13:58.520 and I've sort of got to know her more since 0:13:58.559 --> 0:14:01.920 Offspring finished, really, but yeah, he did, he did mention, 0:14:02.000 --> 0:14:04.480 and now that makes so much sense to me looking back. 0:14:05.200 --> 0:14:07.200 I just mate you being with em and you're like, 0:14:07.400 --> 0:14:10.040 just like being with Billy, Like I mean, she's saying, 0:14:10.080 --> 0:14:12.040 Billy brings back to me what's going on here? 0:14:12.600 --> 0:14:14.880 Yeah, she's Oh, I love her so much. Yeah, Yeah, 0:14:14.920 --> 0:14:17.240 she's a and I'm honored to have some of her 0:14:17.320 --> 0:14:18.959 DNA and Billy. Yeah. 0:14:19.080 --> 0:14:22.360 I mean Matt also, you know, is so prominent in 0:14:22.440 --> 0:14:25.240 Five Bedrooms. Do you think or has he spoken to 0:14:25.240 --> 0:14:28.160 you about any influences that he has with Liz, Like, 0:14:28.280 --> 0:14:30.240 is there a real person in real life similar to 0:14:30.280 --> 0:14:33.760 that Em Rosiano comparison? 0:14:34.400 --> 0:14:38.080 No, and I Michael's. He was very clear that he 0:14:38.120 --> 0:14:41.040 was really keen for me and Christine. They were keen 0:14:41.080 --> 0:14:43.920 for me to play someone who is very different to 0:14:43.960 --> 0:14:48.440 Billy since we'd work together so much on Offspring. But 0:14:48.480 --> 0:14:51.360 in terms of where she comes from, I don't think 0:14:51.440 --> 0:14:54.800 that there's a particular person in mind, and there's certainly 0:14:55.400 --> 0:14:57.920 that's the thing about Liz. I mean, the challenge for 0:14:58.000 --> 0:14:59.960 her is kind of she was a little bit unner 0:15:00.360 --> 0:15:02.360 at the very beginning of series one, and then we 0:15:02.880 --> 0:15:05.360 I think it was only episode five we actually found 0:15:05.400 --> 0:15:08.040 out it was actually going on with her and why 0:15:08.120 --> 0:15:10.520 she was so careful to keep up the facade and 0:15:10.520 --> 0:15:12.720 not let anyone get too close because she had this 0:15:13.200 --> 0:15:16.240 terrible disaster she was trying to avert behind the scenes. 0:15:16.440 --> 0:15:20.040 And then subsequent series have been about kind of dismantling 0:15:21.160 --> 0:15:24.160 her armor and kind of challenging her in different ways 0:15:24.200 --> 0:15:27.640 and you know, humiliating her from time to time in 0:15:27.680 --> 0:15:31.080 the most delightful ways, whether it's you know, dooing herself 0:15:31.800 --> 0:15:35.920 in a bath with Harry's mother or whether it's I 0:15:36.120 --> 0:15:39.600 get a a urinary tract infection. This series, like they've 0:15:39.600 --> 0:15:42.720 they've find new and interesting ways to kind of challenge 0:15:42.720 --> 0:15:47.080 her dignity and her persona of having her shit together. 0:15:47.240 --> 0:15:50.040 That's why she's so choosy and so tasty, you know 0:15:50.080 --> 0:15:50.440 what I mean. 0:15:50.840 --> 0:15:54.320 Well, I just she really she really does try to 0:15:54.320 --> 0:15:56.000 play things by the book, but she's got a lot 0:15:56.040 --> 0:16:02.080 of status anxiety, and she is a little bit everyone. Yes, yeah, 0:16:02.080 --> 0:16:04.600 but she has she's quite stoic, and but she makes 0:16:04.640 --> 0:16:06.680 a lot of mistakes and I'm really fond of her 0:16:06.680 --> 0:16:08.400 and She's challenged this series in a new way too, 0:16:08.440 --> 0:16:10.840 because she, without giving away too much plot, she kind 0:16:10.880 --> 0:16:13.880 of decides she makes some decisions that are a bit 0:16:13.920 --> 0:16:17.160 a little bit dubious, and she tries to make amends 0:16:17.240 --> 0:16:22.240 by making some really significant personal sacrifice, and that's really 0:16:22.280 --> 0:16:25.280 interesting for her. She sort of lets go of all 0:16:25.320 --> 0:16:27.160 the shine and the glamor and actually gets her hands 0:16:27.160 --> 0:16:29.560 dirty and tries to do the right thing. And that 0:16:29.920 --> 0:16:30.960 was really interesting to play. 0:16:31.000 --> 0:16:33.120 I've only seen the first three episodes, and you know, 0:16:33.160 --> 0:16:35.520 it's really funny. Was I got out my exercise bike. 0:16:35.560 --> 0:16:37.480 I've got one a home, which you know, basically I 0:16:37.520 --> 0:16:38.800 just yelled at in the corner of the room that 0:16:38.840 --> 0:16:42.280 never does anything. And I got on the exercise bike 0:16:42.320 --> 0:16:44.360 and put on the episodes and they rolled. So I 0:16:44.400 --> 0:16:47.800 watched the three together. And I've never done so much 0:16:47.840 --> 0:16:50.480 exercise or you know, being consistent on the bike, because 0:16:50.640 --> 0:16:52.440 I've kind of got a bit of ADHD so I 0:16:52.440 --> 0:16:54.880 get bored with things. But I watched three episodes and 0:16:54.880 --> 0:16:56.720 I'm now thinner than I've ever been because I was 0:16:56.760 --> 0:16:57.520 so engrossed. 0:16:57.760 --> 0:16:59.920 Oh wow, I am so glad to be a part 0:17:00.000 --> 0:17:01.880 out of your exercise routine. 0:17:02.000 --> 0:17:04.320 Yes, of course, what an odd thing to say. You know. 0:17:04.480 --> 0:17:07.120 I had image In Banks on the podcast last week. 0:17:07.160 --> 0:17:10.200 We're talking about her new show Safe Home, which is amazing. 0:17:10.240 --> 0:17:12.720 Watched it all? Have you watched it all? I watched 0:17:12.760 --> 0:17:14.160 I finished it two nights ago. 0:17:14.280 --> 0:17:17.320 But Imagen, though, brought up that she was talking to 0:17:17.800 --> 0:17:21.240 the collaborators for Tangle, and just before she spoke to me, 0:17:21.280 --> 0:17:23.399 she was like, I've just got a text message. Funny 0:17:23.400 --> 0:17:26.960 that you're mentioning Tangle. I'm saying, you know, Tangle season four? 0:17:27.000 --> 0:17:29.480 Would you be interested? And so we were talking that 0:17:29.600 --> 0:17:33.119 particular show and you know, wanting to go back and 0:17:33.160 --> 0:17:36.040 see where those people are. Is that a character that 0:17:36.119 --> 0:17:37.200 you would want to go back? 0:17:37.359 --> 0:17:42.240 And actually I have been pestering Imaging for years saying, 0:17:42.280 --> 0:17:44.440 I reckon, they're out of jail. Now I reckon they're out. 0:17:44.480 --> 0:17:48.760 I reckon, It's time to see where they're at. Yeah, yeah, yes, yeah, 0:17:49.000 --> 0:17:51.080 I would do Nat Manning again in a heartbeat. I 0:17:51.160 --> 0:17:53.280 just I love doing that show. That was a dream 0:17:53.600 --> 0:17:56.000 a dream cast. I'm saying that about everything, but it 0:17:56.040 --> 0:17:59.040 really was it. Really I do that again in a heartbeat. 0:17:59.119 --> 0:18:01.200 I love Net Everyone so naughty. 0:18:01.480 --> 0:18:04.200 Actually, all of the actresses another series where the actresses 0:18:04.600 --> 0:18:07.840 sort of overshadowed the men somehow because they were just 0:18:07.880 --> 0:18:10.440 so deliciously played by all of you. 0:18:10.440 --> 0:18:15.399 You know, just think Clark and Keta Mcclearan's May of Friends. 0:18:15.400 --> 0:18:16.560 I want them to be my friends. 0:18:16.880 --> 0:18:18.880 No, I mean, strictly speaking, I don't. I don't hang 0:18:18.920 --> 0:18:21.040 out with any of them, but when you're working together, 0:18:21.640 --> 0:18:24.240 you know, we don't, you know, just I mean, I 0:18:24.280 --> 0:18:26.080 just if I see them, I'm so pleased to see them, 0:18:26.119 --> 0:18:29.040 but it's a moment in time where you just you're 0:18:29.920 --> 0:18:33.840 kind of connected by the shared passion. And yeah, I'm 0:18:33.880 --> 0:18:35.920