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Speaker 1: Common room.

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Speaker 2: Boom, John, a man with common room.

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Speaker 1: On the cutting room floor today?

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Speaker 3: Have you ever brandan been using a chainsaw on a

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Speaker 3: piece of wood or something? You like chainsaws, don't you?

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Speaker 1: I do?

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Speaker 3: And you're chopping down trees and stuff with them?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Have chopped a tree down? Chopped up? Would chop

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Speaker 1: to many things to chainsaw?

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Speaker 3: Have ever done that? And while you're doing that, you think,

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Speaker 3: you know what? I could use this in surgery?

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Speaker 1: Ooh, what Texas chainsaw massacre style?

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Speaker 3: What came first? Chopping down a tree or using a

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Speaker 3: chainsaw on a human? I'm speaking in circles, goog, I've

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Speaker 3: got some interesting information.

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Speaker 1: Well, the tree would be first, wouldn't know.

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Speaker 3: The chainsaw was originally invented in the late eighteenth century

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Speaker 3: for medical purposes, specifically to assist in symphysiotomy, a surgical

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Speaker 3: procedure to widen the pelvis during childbirth. I know. The

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Speaker 3: earliest versions were hand cranked, looked like a modern serrated knife.

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Speaker 3: Over time, the concept was adapted for cutting wood, leading

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Speaker 3: to the development of modern chainsaws for forestry, et cetera.

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Speaker 3: But they it was originally designed to help women in

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Speaker 3: childbirth to widen the pelvis to help to help the

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Speaker 3: Childbirth is the easiest thing on earth, but so many

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Speaker 3: times the head would get where. You know, people say, oh,

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Speaker 3: people do this on the side of a mountain and

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Speaker 3: babies died. That's why we have interventions.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you gave birth vaginally, didn't you to your children

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Speaker 2: when you.

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Speaker 3: Put it like that, ranked Yes, I didn't have a cesarean,

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Speaker 3: if that's what you're asking.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, do you remember much about it?

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Speaker 3: I was there at the time. Well, the first one.

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Speaker 3: Liam was taking a very very long time, and and

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Speaker 3: the day before I'd been to see the doctor, and

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Speaker 3: a couple of days before, and I thought, for some

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Speaker 3: reason I was fully dilated. They said, oh, you might

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Speaker 3: be fully dilated. Are you checked into the hospital. I

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Speaker 3: said no, I'm going back to work, And so I wasn't.

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Speaker 3: They'd made a mistake. So the next day when I

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Speaker 3: came to give birth and I was only four centiments

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Speaker 3: dilated after twelve hours, I said, oh my god. He

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Speaker 3: was me thinking I was a goddess that I was

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Speaker 3: fully dilated and hadn't felt it. So I had ab

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Speaker 3: be duralep and Liam came out. He's a vacuum pull

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Speaker 3: so he had a little head a little hat on.

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Speaker 3: He looked like Nefertiti. He was too scared to take

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Speaker 3: the hat off in case that was the shape of

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Speaker 3: his head.

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Speaker 1: That's pretty much was.

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Speaker 3: And then Jack sort of slipped out like a fish

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Speaker 3: very quickly.

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Speaker 1: Oh were you because the highways clear as they say, well.

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Speaker 3: Not necessarily, not necessarily, but that happened to you know.

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Speaker 3: I oftn't thought who were these people that would ever

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Speaker 3: give birth in a car park or on the side

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Speaker 3: of a road. I pretty much almost did with Jack.

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Speaker 3: I was on all fours in the car park.

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Speaker 2: Did you know since sixteen forty three, women largely have

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Speaker 2: been giving birth incorrectly or because of Louis the Fourteenth.

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Speaker 1: I mean incorrect So Louis the fourteenth.

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Speaker 3: Giving birth out of our ears?

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, women lie down and give birth on

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Speaker 2: their back. The proper way for a woman to give

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Speaker 2: birth is actually squatting down.

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Speaker 3: Let gravity help you.

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Speaker 1: It opens up the birth canal.

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Speaker 2: And also, as you say, gravity, King Louis the fourteenth,

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Speaker 2: when his wife was pregnant and about to give birth,

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Speaker 2: he wanted to witness his newborn son, next heir to

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Speaker 2: the throne, come into the world. He wanted to witness it.

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Speaker 2: He wanted to see it. Not only that, he got

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Speaker 2: all these mates around so they could watch the arrival

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Speaker 2: of this new heir.

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Speaker 1: So this lady is lying on her back, the queen, please,

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Speaker 1: the queen.

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Speaker 2: She's got a modesty sheet that just covers up her

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Speaker 2: face and all the other pits. But all they could

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Speaker 2: see is vagine eggs and the baby, lovagine legs.

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Speaker 1: The baby coming out.

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Speaker 3: And so that was the first time women lay down.

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Speaker 3: He started the trend, did it?

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Speaker 2: That has started the trend and online if you read

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Speaker 2: about it, it says King Louis. He father twenty two

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Speaker 2: children and also change the way women give birth.

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Speaker 3: Wow, the modern in the modern birthing suite, if you

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Speaker 3: want to line your back, great, if you want to

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Speaker 3: stand up, great, if you want to yell out the

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Speaker 3: window great. Whatever it takes to get that thing out

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Speaker 3: is accepted.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: But in that extraordinary imagine on the weekend, you and

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Speaker 2: your mates just sitting down having So.

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Speaker 3: You know what i'd like to see, get the modesty

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Speaker 3: screen for a face. But you know what I'd like

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Speaker 3: to see.

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Speaker 1: It's good to be the key.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, that's it board today Yeah yeah yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: go back made no more add Jones and the man

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Speaker 2: that's cutting room for

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Speaker 3: H m hm