1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:03,240 Speaker 1: Already and this is the this is the Daily ar 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 1: This is the Daily OS. Oh, now it makes sense. 3 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:17,079 Speaker 2: Good morning, and welcome to the Daily OS. It's Friday, 4 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 2: the nineteenth of December. I'm Elliott, Lorie, I'm Sam Becauseloski. 5 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 2: Last Sunday, Hollywood director Bob Reiner and his wife, Michelle 6 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 2: Singer Reiner were found dead at their home in Los Angeles, 7 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 2: shortly after the couple's thirty two year old son, Nick 8 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 2: was arrested and charged over the murder of his parents. 9 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:34,840 Speaker 2: In today's podcast, we're going to walk you through who 10 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 2: Rob Rhiner was, what we know about his death, and 11 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 2: how Donald Trump is caught up in all of it. 12 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 1: Elliott, this is a story that goes across politics, crime, arts, 13 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 1: culture and everything that kind of paints the US as 14 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 1: the US at the moment. It's a complex and tragic 15 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 1: story to talk about before we get into it. Can 16 00:00:57,120 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 1: you tell us a little bit more about who Rob 17 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:00,040 Speaker 1: Rhiner was. 18 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 2: Before I do get into that. Did you know who 19 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 2: Rob was prior to this week? 20 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 1: I saw his face and recognized his face, but I 21 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:10,120 Speaker 1: didn't know the extent of his directing career. 22 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, his bio will be absolutely astounding. As you 23 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 2: hear it. 24 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:16,319 Speaker 1: It's the ultimate IMDb page exactly. 25 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 2: So. Rob was seventy eight years old at the time 26 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 2: of his death, and he rose to fame acting in 27 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:23,759 Speaker 2: the nineteen seventies sitcom All in the Family, for which 28 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 2: he won two Primetime Emmys. He also appeared in quite 29 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 2: a few notable films, including Sleepless and Seattle and The 30 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 2: First Wives Club and then more recently The Wolf of 31 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 2: Wall Street in twenty thirteen. Yeah, so that's his acting work, 32 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 2: but many people will remember Rob as a very respected filmmaker. 33 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 2: Rhiner made his directorial debut in nineteen eighty four with 34 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 2: the mockumentary This Is Spinal Tap, which he also appeared in. 35 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 2: He then went on to direct a couple movies that 36 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 2: you might be familiar with, including The Princess Bride, Misery, 37 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 2: and a few Good Men Massive Films Massive Now Finally, 38 00:01:56,840 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 2: Hiner was also known for his political activism in his lifetime. 39 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 2: He actively campaigned for same sex marriage rights and lobbied 40 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 2: against the tobacco industry. Notably, he was a vocal supporter 41 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 2: of the Democratic Party, which is an important point that 42 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:11,920 Speaker 2: we will come back to later on. 43 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a very strong kind of Democratic Party supporter 44 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 1: base amongst the la Hollywood actors directors class, and Rob 45 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 1: was a key part of that scene. But Rob wasn't 46 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 1: the only person who died. What do we know about 47 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 1: his wife? 48 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 2: Yeah? So, in nineteen eighty nine, Rob married Michelle Singer, 49 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 2: who he met while he was directing the beloved rom 50 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 2: com When Harry met Sally A bit of pop culture 51 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 2: trivia for you, Sam. The initial script for that film 52 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 2: had a much sadder ending, and in later years Rob 53 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 2: actually revealed that the process of falling in love with 54 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 2: Michelle was the reason for the more romantic story that 55 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:49,519 Speaker 2: we now ultimately ended up with. Professionally, Michelle was an actress, photographer, 56 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:52,399 Speaker 2: and producer, and the couple was married for thirty six 57 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 2: years and they had three children together, Jake, Nick, and Ronnie. 58 00:02:56,480 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 1: And so now police alleged that they were murdered last week, 59 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 1: can correct? What do we know about their deaths so far? 60 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 1: Because there is still a lot that is yet to 61 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 1: be revealed. Tell us what we do know. 62 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 2: So on Monday morning, our time, we first heard the 63 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 2: news that Robin Michelle had been found dead at their 64 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 2: home in la Us Media reports that it was their 65 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 2: daughter Rommy who was the one to actually discover her parents' 66 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 2: bodies and call emergency services. And it's understood that they 67 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:26,639 Speaker 2: were found with multiple stab wounds. Their son, Nick, was 68 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:29,920 Speaker 2: then arrested several hours later in connection to the deaths. 69 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 1: Okay, so tell me about Nick then, So you mentioned 70 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 1: Rommy the daughter. Nick is one of their two sons. 71 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 2: Correct. So Nick Rhino is thirty two years old. Throughout 72 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 2: his life, he has publicly talked about his battles with 73 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 2: drug addiction and homelessness, and in twenty fifteen he actually 74 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 2: collaborated with his dad on a film about those experiences 75 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 2: that was called Being Charlie. Many media outlets have reported 76 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 2: that last Saturday night, Nick actually attended a holiday party 77 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 2: in la with his dad. These reports say that a 78 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 2: fight broke out between Rob and Nick at the event 79 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 2: and apparently things got quite heated. Now, this is the 80 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 2: last time that Rob was publicly seen. 81 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 1: So there's a public or semi public dispute between a 82 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 1: son and a father on the Saturday night. We then 83 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 1: go only a day later and the son is charged 84 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 1: with the murder of both of his parents. What do 85 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 1: we know about the charges that have been laid against 86 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:23,479 Speaker 1: Nick and how he's pleading. 87 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 2: So Nick has been in custody without bail since his 88 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:29,679 Speaker 2: arrest on Sunday. He is facing two council first degree murder, 89 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:32,479 Speaker 2: including the allegation that he quote used a dangerous and 90 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:35,600 Speaker 2: deadly weapon, that being a knife. Now we don't have 91 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 2: any information about a potential motive at this time. I'm 92 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 2: sure that will come out throughout the process of the case. 93 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:43,720 Speaker 2: But Nick did appear in court for the first time yesterday, 94 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:46,720 Speaker 2: and he has not actually yet entered a plea in 95 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:48,719 Speaker 2: regards to those two murder charges. 96 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 1: So there's a son waiting for the next stages in 97 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 1: what will be a lengthy legal process. But a big 98 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 1: part of this story that I've seen floating around international 99 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 1: media actually has to do with President of the United 100 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:04,039 Speaker 1: States Donald Trump. Where does he fit into all of this, 101 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 1: because it seems like he's been the one commenting on 102 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 1: these deaths. 103 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 2: So you'll remember earlier that Rob was a renowned social 104 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 2: justice advocate and a supporter of the Democratic Party. Something 105 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 2: that I didn't mention is that he was also a 106 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 2: very vocal critic of the current president. So in twenty seventeen, 107 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 2: he actually told Variety that he believed Trump quote is 108 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 2: the single most unqualified human being to ever assume the 109 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 2: presidency of the United States. 110 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:31,039 Speaker 1: There's some very strong words there, very much. 111 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 2: So cut to this week, and in the wake of 112 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:35,840 Speaker 2: Rob's death, Trump took to the social media platform truth 113 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:38,159 Speaker 2: social to give his two cents on the deaths. In 114 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 2: a post, the president alleged Rob's death was due to 115 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 2: quote the anger he has caused others through his mind 116 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:47,479 Speaker 2: crippling disease known as Trump Derangements syndrome. 117 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 1: Which I just need to clarify as not a legitimate 118 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:51,239 Speaker 1: it's not a medical condition. 119 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 2: Correct. He abbreviated it to TDS, so I think he 120 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:57,479 Speaker 2: is trying to make it a more commonplace phrase. But 121 00:05:58,000 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 2: he did actually go on to say that Rob was 122 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 2: quote known to have driven people crazy by his raging 123 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 2: obsession of President Donald J. 124 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:08,480 Speaker 1: Trump, and just the kind of take stock of putting 125 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 1: that reaction by the president into context. It is highly unusual, 126 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 1: in the first instance, for a president or a leader 127 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 1: of any country to be commenting negatively on somebody who 128 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 1: has died so soon after a death, let alone when 129 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 1: there's an active criminal process and there's you know, families 130 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 1: in mourning and police trying to figure out what's going on. 131 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 1: So this was quite an unprecedented reaction to a high 132 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:36,839 Speaker 1: profile murder or alleged murder by the president, and you 133 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 1: know it led to other reactions from other politicians. 134 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, unprecedented is the word. Shortly after the postment Live, 135 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:47,600 Speaker 2: a range of political figures across the spectrum, including the 136 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 2: Republicans that's Trump's party, actually came out and denounced his statement. 137 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 3: Right. 138 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 2: Republican representative Thomas Massey said it was quote inappropriate and 139 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:59,839 Speaker 2: disrespectful discourse about a man who had just been brutally murdered. 140 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:03,840 Speaker 2: Democratic Senator John Hickenlooper called the post heartless, and then 141 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 2: during a press conference in the Overall Office, a reporter 142 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 2: questioned Trump about whether he stood by his initial comments, 143 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 2: and here's what he had to say. 144 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 3: Well, I wasn't a fan of his at all. He 145 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 3: was a deranged person as far as Trump is concerned. 146 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 3: He said, he like he knew it was false. In fact, 147 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 3: it is the exact opposite that I was a friend 148 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 3: of Russia, controlled by Russia. You know, it was the 149 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 3: Russia hoax. He was one of the people behind it. 150 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 3: I think he heard himself in career wise, he became 151 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 3: like a deranged person Trump derangement syndrome. So I was 152 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 3: not a fan of Rob Reiner at all, in any way, 153 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 3: shape or form. I thought he was very bad for 154 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 3: our country. Yeah. 155 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 1: So we've got this major event that has rocked Hollywood 156 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 1: and the US, and I've seen a lot of coverage 157 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 1: around it from pop culture, film, and arts communities all 158 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 1: over the world. We've got a reaction, a strong reaction 159 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 1: from the President. What happens from here. 160 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 2: So we've seen countless tribute this week from a lot 161 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 2: of famous faces. So I'm sure we can expect a 162 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 2: star studed funeral in the coming weeks. Sure, But today 163 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 2: we actually heard from the writers to other children, that's 164 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 2: Nick siblings, Rommy and Jake. They said, the horrific and 165 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 2: devastating loss of our parents, Rob and Michelle right now 166 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 2: is something that no one should ever experience. They weren't 167 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 2: just our parents, they were our best friends. We're grateful 168 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 2: for the outpouring of condolences, kindness, and support we have received, 169 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 2: not only from family and friends, but people from all 170 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 2: walks of life. Now, in terms of the actual murder case, 171 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:32,680 Speaker 2: it's expected to return to court in January next year. 172 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 1: It's one of those stories that really does traverse so 173 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 1: many different categories in the news. I mean, the fact 174 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 1: that I was reading about this story in politics pages 175 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 1: as well as film and TV pages is another reminder 176 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:48,679 Speaker 1: of the current state of affairs in America and US 177 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 1: politics and just how overlapping it is with all different 178 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: parts of society. Elliott will wait till that court appearance 179 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 1: in January of next year, but thank you for taking 180 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 1: us through that. 181 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 2: Thanks Sam. 182 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 1: We'll be back on Monday. So the first installment of 183 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:05,559 Speaker 1: a really special summer series, brought to you by pretty 184 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 1: much every member of the team here at TDA who's 185 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 1: had a hand in an episode or two, bringing you 186 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:13,679 Speaker 1: a look back on the year that was across all 187 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 1: the different areas of news that we cover, and a 188 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:18,560 Speaker 1: bit of a look forward into what we hope is 189 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:21,680 Speaker 1: a better and brighter twenty twenty six. With that, though, 190 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 1: we will leave you for your Friday. Have a beautiful weekend. 191 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 1: My name is Lily Maddon and I'm a proud Arunda 192 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:36,439 Speaker 1: Bunjelung Kalkotin woman from Gadighl Country. 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