1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:02,279 Speaker 1: Joining us on the line. I believe he's in Canberra 2 00:00:02,279 --> 00:00:05,440 Speaker 1: at the moment. The Member for Sullivan, Luke Goslin, Good 3 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: morning to you, Luke. 4 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 2: Good morning Katie. 5 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: Now, Luke, I understand Parliament is sitting at the moment, 6 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 1: so there's been quite a bit on the agenda for you, hasn't. 7 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 2: There There's been heats on. There's about half of the 8 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:21,439 Speaker 2: parliamentarians here. Obviously a lot of Victorian and New South 9 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 2: Wales and some Queensland MPs are just appearing by video conference. 10 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 2: But it's been a pretty packed agender. I have been 11 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:34,159 Speaker 2: able to represent Territorians in a number of ways. We 12 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 2: have closed the gap in this parliamentary sitting. So the 13 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:42,200 Speaker 2: reports come out that says we're only really meeting about 14 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 2: three out of seventeen targets there. But we did have 15 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 2: some great news, a big win for the NT in 16 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 2: that the government announced some funding three hundred and seventy 17 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 2: million dollars for those survivors of the Stolen Generations in 18 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 2: both the Northern Territory and the Act. So that's something 19 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 2: we've been working on for a long time and now 20 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 2: obviously because they survivors are getting quite elderly now, we're 21 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:09,039 Speaker 2: trying to get the government to speed that process up 22 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 2: to give them, you know, I guess that closure that 23 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 2: they've been fighting for for so long. Yeah. 24 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 1: We did have a really extensive discussion last week with 25 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 1: both Eileen Cummins and all So Mazy from the Stolen 26 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 1: Generations group here in the territory and it was really 27 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 1: very insightful obviously to speak to them and you know 28 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:33,319 Speaker 1: here that they really had not thought, well certainly for Eileen, 29 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 1: that she had not thought that this is going to 30 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 1: happen in her lifetime. So the fact that it had 31 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 1: was a good thing. But like you said, you know, 32 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 1: if they can speed that process up to ensure that 33 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 1: it happened sooner rather than later, that would be even better. 34 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, Caddie and I spoke with Eileen last 35 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 2: night before I spoken in the Parliament and she said, yeah, 36 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 2: you tell them, Luke, you got to tell them that 37 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 2: we're getting old now, like we're between seventy and ninety 38 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 2: years old, so let's speed the process. She says, I 39 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 2: can give them the list. We've got all the lists. 40 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 2: So yeah, it was great to have that outcome. We're 41 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 2: still a long way behind in a lot of the targets. 42 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:12,960 Speaker 2: But I think it's been some great news during the 43 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:16,639 Speaker 2: week with the Aboriginal Justice Agreement that the Northern Territory 44 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 2: has entered into and some support from that, not only 45 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 2: from the anti government but from the philanthropic sector, and 46 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 2: we all just hope that we can see some gains 47 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:27,360 Speaker 2: in that justice area. 48 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. Now, look, I did want to ask you. I 49 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 1: know that there's been a bit of discussion around the 50 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 1: place about refugees here in the territory at the moment 51 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:37,839 Speaker 1: in Darwin. I believe that they're sort of housed at 52 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 1: will out near the airport there somewhere. What's the latest 53 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:43,800 Speaker 1: in this space. 54 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 2: We had a breakthrough, Katie, in this week one of 55 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 2: the families have been moved out of that which essentially 56 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 2: a little prison at the back of the airport resort 57 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 2: hotel there. The problem is that these people are genuine 58 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 2: fugees and they've been in detention on Maru for eight 59 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 2: years now, and they are genuine refugees. So what we're 60 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 2: trying to do is just get them released into the 61 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 2: community while they're waiting to be resettled in the US 62 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 2: or Canada. But unfortunately, because we had fifteen in there, 63 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:21,640 Speaker 2: we've been working on it consistently, and I take my 64 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 2: hat off to all those people who've been turning up 65 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 2: to the fence to be in solidarity with those people 66 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 2: who are just been in that little facility there for 67 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 2: so long. But there's one family left now, Katie, one 68 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 2: family of four. And from the times that I've been 69 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 2: visiting them, it's really obvious the deterioration, and a lot 70 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 2: of people have had to do two weeks quarantine, but 71 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 2: imagine being in that situation for basically eight years. And 72 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 2: certainly they've been at the Darwin Airport for a year 73 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 2: and a half. And I know the Darwin Airport want 74 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 2: them gone. They don't want people turning up and protesting 75 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 2: at the airport because of the inhumane treatment of this 76 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 2: last family. And there's going to be a big resort 77 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 2: built there and that's all really exciting. So let's just 78 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 2: close down that detention facility, release this family into the 79 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 2: community while they wait for their plane so they can 80 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 2: resettle in the United States. 81 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, look, it definitely needs to be sorted, there's no 82 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 1: doubt about that. Where are they from. 83 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 2: This little last remaining family are from Iran. In fact, 84 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:27,720 Speaker 2: most of the families were from Iran. There was one 85 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:32,720 Speaker 2: family that was from Sri Lanka and they were just 86 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 2: so sick of it. They said, look, send us back 87 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:38,600 Speaker 2: to Naharu. It's really sad for Darwin because you know, 88 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:42,279 Speaker 2: we could have these people sort of without that mental 89 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 2: stress of being confined like that for so long in 90 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:50,040 Speaker 2: the community while they waited to be resettled overseas. But 91 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 2: that hasn't happened. One family just said, well, I'd rather 92 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 2: be back in Mahru than cooped up here. So we 93 00:04:57,040 --> 00:05:00,840 Speaker 2: really continue to say to the men, to Karen Andrews, 94 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 2: let's just do the right thing by this last family. 95 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:05,919 Speaker 2: Don't cause them any more mental anguish than we already have. 96 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 1: Well, I know some people listening will be thinking, well, 97 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 1: how did they end up here, you know, or how 98 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 1: did they end up in this situation. But at the 99 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 1: end of the day, we are talking about genuine refugees. 100 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're talking about genuine refugees, Katie, and I mean 101 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:23,359 Speaker 2: it was a matter of where you were when you 102 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 2: sort asylum in Australia. So people that arrived a month before, 103 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 2: these people have been in our community, contributing around community 104 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 2: ever since. People after Kevin Rudd said in twenty thirteen. 105 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 2: Anyone who comes to Australia by boat will never settle here. 106 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 2: These are the people that are still into tention from 107 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:47,720 Speaker 2: that period on. So it's eight years now. They are 108 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:50,720 Speaker 2: going to be settled in another country, in either Canada 109 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:54,159 Speaker 2: or the United States. But we can afford to just 110 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:57,159 Speaker 2: and it's actually cheaper for the federal government just to 111 00:05:57,200 --> 00:06:01,720 Speaker 2: support them in the community whilst they wait for their overseas. 112 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 1: Look, we're running out of time, but very quickly, mate. 113 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 1: I understand that you've got a visitor to the territory tomorrow. 114 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, we have Albo. Anthony Albanezi, the Federal Labor leader, 115 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 2: is coming up to visit Darwin. We're flying back tonight. 116 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 2: He's going to visit how it springs, but also get 117 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 2: a brief on Bladen and the role it could continue 118 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 2: to play. We're going to head out to some sports 119 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 2: and some markets. We're going to head out to the 120 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 2: Darwin Military Muster on Saturday at East Point. So it'd 121 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:33,599 Speaker 2: be great to have Elbow in town. He's a big 122 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 2: supporter of the Northern Territory and there's been a number 123 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:39,359 Speaker 2: of things that have happened down here in Canberra in 124 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 2: this last two weeks where I'm really confident. In fact, 125 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 2: I'm having a conversation in an inquiry that I'm a 126 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 2: member of very shortly with Sea Farms about that massive 127 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 2: Sea Farms, the massive prawn project. So there's an inquiry 128 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:57,119 Speaker 2: into aquaculture and I bought that inquiry up to Darwin 129 00:06:57,160 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 2: a couple of weeks ago. We're talking to Sea Farms 130 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 2: by video link in a short while and we're just 131 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:05,359 Speaker 2: keeping territory issues on the agenda down here, Katy. And 132 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:08,159 Speaker 2: it's a bit easier when we've got the run of 133 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 2: the place and there's so many that aren't physically here, 134 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 2: but we'll just keep flying the flag. And it's got 135 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 2: to have elbow in town. 136 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 1: If you see him around, well, I think he's going 137 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 1: to come into the studio tomorrow morning. Luke Gosling. We 138 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 1: will catch up with you again very soon. Thanks so 139 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 1: much for your time today. 140 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 2: Good on you, Katy. Thank you. 141 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 1: That is Labour's member for Solomon there, Luke Gosling.