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Speaker 1: It's a woman Woody podcast minis.

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Speaker 2: But when you're in a rash or just can't be

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Speaker 2: bothered listening to them brother on for half an hour.

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Speaker 2: Not many people can say they've won Australian Idol and

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Speaker 2: we're crowned Queen of the Jungle for our next desk

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Speaker 2: can She's now starring in Channel tens How to Stay Married?

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Speaker 2: As listen to this woods Pete Helliers NEMESSI might be

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Speaker 2: time to swap some ticks between the two of you.

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Speaker 1: You might just be able to bring this man down.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 2: They're very talented and what's new best friend, Casey Donovan.

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Speaker 4: Welcome, we've probably met I think so we've a lot

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Speaker 4: of phoners and a few down the line.

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Speaker 5: I to know hard to know whether to bring that

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Speaker 5: up with somebody because we obviously remember the phone chance.

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Speaker 3: But then sometimes on the phone it's very well called

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Speaker 3: you Casey.

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Speaker 1: I think he did. We had you because he was

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Speaker 1: I okay though, did you break out? Amazing of all

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Speaker 1: the people we called you really friendly? So thank you.

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Speaker 4: Oh you're very welcome. Yeah that's how you get catfish guys.

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Speaker 4: You just talked to strangers.

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Speaker 5: Now I want to just touch back on something which

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Speaker 5: was brought up in the opening, which was the fact

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Speaker 5: that you're on the show with Pete Hellyer How to

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Speaker 5: Stay Marriage on so you can get Casey there, and

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Speaker 5: you're playing Pete's nemesis in the show. We don't know

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Speaker 5: about this is Pete Helly is also Wood his nemesis.

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Speaker 3: My arch nemesis.

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Speaker 6: He always threatens to try and take my job and

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Speaker 6: will actually like inflames those rumors as well by always

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Speaker 6: threatening if I'm having an off day, he'll go.

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Speaker 3: It's called Pete Heller. I don't even flame it. I mean,

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Speaker 3: Hella would be good. That's the thing, like we all

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Speaker 3: know you're talking about.

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Speaker 1: I hear it.

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Speaker 3: He would be good.

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Speaker 6: Though.

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Speaker 3: He's good. He's good, right, great, He's amazing. Hang on

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Speaker 3: a second case.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

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Speaker 6: My question that you play his nemesis on the show

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Speaker 6: How to Stay Man, did that extend behind the scenes,

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Speaker 6: like you know, to try and get into character.

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Speaker 1: Look certainly not.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a great He's a great dude.

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Speaker 4: Pete and I would often laugh and we have little

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Speaker 4: dance breaks between takes, which is kind of weird when

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Speaker 4: you're trying to get into character, and you know, dislike

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Speaker 4: some ornamentously, but I think for me that's fun because

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Speaker 4: Luna is the she's the hard hitter, she's the she's.

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Speaker 1: The go getter. So Casey is like, just we're still friends,

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Speaker 1: just checking in just.

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Speaker 3: After each scene where Luna is like, yes, so you

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Speaker 3: play a colossal bitch and the.

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Speaker 1: Show yeah, which is very unlike me antia, could you

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Speaker 1: show me a bit of bitch, Casey?

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Speaker 3: Now, I mean, boom, look at that.

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Speaker 1: Look what's that?

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Speaker 4: Pete Helliett will be here tomorrow, Thank you so much, goodbye.

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Speaker 5: Wow.

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Speaker 1: It just kind of icy. It just yeah, yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: not great. It feels weird, feels weird feeling.

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Speaker 6: I can almost tell you felt uncomfortable by being a

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Speaker 6: bit of the bitch.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, bit of a bitch. Yeah blood Yeah.

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Speaker 4: But when it comes to you know, family members, they're

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Speaker 4: just like, yeah, she's she's yeah, she needs a nap,

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Speaker 4: she has to go down for twenty and come back

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Speaker 4: when she's ready.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, come on, mom. She'll be like, yeah, she's a bitch. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's all true, it's all true.

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Speaker 5: True. If you want to see Casey, she's on tonight,

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Speaker 5: Channel ten now to Stay Married, she pays lunar keys.

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Speaker 3: You can check all that out right there. We've got more.

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Speaker 3: Casey Donovan run up next.

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Speaker 5: To Casey Don't have been in the studio How to

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Speaker 5: Stay Murried Married Married Tonight, Channel ten, eight forty pm.

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Speaker 5: You can say on the screen, Lisa mce and Pete

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Speaker 5: Helly a hell of a show case. I was going

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Speaker 5: to ask you though, I mean, we we we I'm

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Speaker 5: going to be totally honest with you. We made a

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Speaker 5: gag about the catfish thing last night. Yeah, and then

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Speaker 5: you and then we were like definitely can't go there,

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Speaker 5: like seriously, we were like it was shut down vigorous,

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Speaker 5: like because it was a wild time for you, obviously

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Speaker 5: very public. And then you've come in here and made

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Speaker 5: a joke about it. Yeah. Is it as off the

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Speaker 5: table as where we thought it might be or is

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Speaker 5: it just like this is something I can joke about.

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Speaker 4: Now, because you know, look, I certainly think with all

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Speaker 4: the healing that I've done and the forgiving and the

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Speaker 4: learning and moving forward, I mean, when you can look

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Speaker 4: back at something and giggle, yes, you're kind of at

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Speaker 4: that point of going, okay, I'm over the hurd, or

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Speaker 4: yes it was shit, Yes, it hurt. What did I

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Speaker 4: learn and how has that shaped me as a human today?

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Speaker 4: And it is nice to kind of go, oh god,

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Speaker 4: that happened.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, So just on that then, because I was just

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Speaker 5: sort of going through your rap sheets, the bits that

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Speaker 5: people would know you for in their lives.

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Speaker 3: So first of all, the Aussie Idol gear.

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Speaker 5: And the reason I'm grilling you about this is because

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Speaker 5: the first time I met and I've always wanted to

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Speaker 5: ask you this stuff catfishing, austray and idol and then

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Speaker 5: I'm slope, get me out of here.

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Speaker 3: Recently as well, on Channel ten The.

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Speaker 6: Winner, The Winner, obviously, who would have thought you an

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Speaker 6: extraordinary public life?

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Speaker 5: You are like from the outside that is just one

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Speaker 5: inferno of drama and like hype.

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Speaker 4: And I still get called Casey Chambers, who I absolutely

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Speaker 4: love an ador. But I was walking out of the

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Speaker 4: Chemist the other day and this guy's like, oh Casey Chambers,

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Speaker 4: and I went can I Anyway, I just got in

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Speaker 4: the car and I was like.

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Speaker 1: And I was just like wow. But it's yeah, you

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Speaker 1: know all of those things and still.

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Speaker 5: Get So the reason I'm saying all this stuff just

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Speaker 5: so I'm not just dragging you back through the Ghosts

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Speaker 5: of Reality show. Is you're so well put together and

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Speaker 5: you've got this podcast about mindfulness and so bubbly and

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Speaker 5: he speaks so well, and like it's it's really fascinating

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Speaker 5: to meet you in person and to sort of see

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Speaker 5: all that, and it's just amazing that you've gone through

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Speaker 5: that and you are who you are.

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Speaker 3: Now, Like, isn't that you should be so proud? Like

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Speaker 3: that's so cool.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. I am very proud.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it takes a lot to kind of just

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Speaker 4: and you're like, I'm tired today.

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Speaker 1: I just got to keep going. Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: It's taken a lot of years for me to just

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Speaker 4: sit with things and go, Okay, I am a vulnerable person.

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Speaker 4: That's nothing to be angry or ashamed about. I am

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Speaker 4: a nice person, nothing to be angry or ashamed about.

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Speaker 4: But now, in the last kind of year or two

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Speaker 4: since moving down to Melbourne.

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Speaker 1: I've just started building these.

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Speaker 4: Boundaries and putting up little things going oh, that feels

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Speaker 4: boundary and that's something that I've you know, it's taken

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Speaker 4: me thirty three years to learn and to go, well, no,

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Speaker 4: I'm not okay with that and not feeling weird about that,

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Speaker 4: which a lot of people, you know, kind of go,

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Speaker 4: oh no, I've got all these boundaries and you're not

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Speaker 4: knocking them down and I'm not moving and then you

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Speaker 4: kind of you know me, and I'm like, what boundaries.

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Speaker 1: Where I'm you know, getting yeah, very exposed.

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Speaker 4: So I think in the last year for me, COVID

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Speaker 4: also taught me to reevaluate myself, build boundaries and know

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Speaker 4: that it's okay to say no and it's okay not

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Speaker 4: to you know, go aha, yeah, Like I like quiet time,

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Speaker 4: like staying at home with my cats and chilling out

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Speaker 4: and just enjoying life.

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Speaker 1: But as well as getting out there.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, look, I've you know, over the many years

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Speaker 4: of my career, I'm thankful and grateful for my family

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Speaker 4: and my friends and just re evolving and knowing that

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Speaker 4: you have to work hard to get.

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Speaker 1: To where you need to be.

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Speaker 4: And if that's you know, for me driving an uber

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Speaker 4: once or you know, driving an elder's community bus and

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Speaker 4: grounding myself again to know that it's not defeat, it's

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Speaker 4: just reevaluating and.

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Speaker 1: Learning about yourself.

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Speaker 4: And you know, now I get to play lunar keys

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Speaker 4: on how to stay married, and it's just absolutely amazing.

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Speaker 3: Awesome, awesome.

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Speaker 5: Gonz Lenke is the first that Casey Don'tophan plays on

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Speaker 5: how to stay married. Tonight Chaneral ten eight forty benefice Mate.

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