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Speaker 1: My name is Lily Maddon and I'm a proud Arunda

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Speaker 1: Bunjelung Cargoton woman from Gadighl country. The Daily oz acknowledges

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Speaker 2: Good morning and welcome to the Daily os It's Wednesday,

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Speaker 2: the fifth of July. I'm Sam Kazlowski.

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Speaker 3: I'm Zara Seidler.

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Speaker 2: You may have heard the news over the last few

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Speaker 2: weeks about protests and riots in France.

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Speaker 1: Paris, supposed to be the city of love, is exploding

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Speaker 1: again into hateful confrontation.

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Speaker 2: There are five bluting rioting. I mean, this is an

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Speaker 2: extremely dangerous situation.

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Speaker 4: The weekend saw flashes across the country and the home

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Speaker 4: of a local mayor rammed with a car in Paris.

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Speaker 4: The destruction is now estimated at some twenty million euros.

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Speaker 2: This was all sparks by the shooting of teenager Nael

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Speaker 2: Mazurk by French police, and while things seem to be

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Speaker 2: settling down for now, the racial and political tensions which

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Speaker 2: ignited these events remain. We'll tell you what you need

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Speaker 2: to know in today's deep Dive, but first ara what's

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Speaker 2: making headlines.

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Speaker 3: The Reserve Bank of Australia has kept the cash rate

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Speaker 3: unchanged at four point one percent. RBA Governor Philip Lowe

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Speaker 3: hasn't ruled out further increases in the future, but he

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Speaker 3: did say that inflation has quote passed its peak.

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Speaker 2: A former AFLW player has become the first professional athlete

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Speaker 2: to be diagnosed with CT. Heather Anderson played a season

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Speaker 2: for the Adelaide Crows in twenty seventeen and retired due

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Speaker 2: to injuries. She passed away last year. CT is a

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Speaker 2: disease linked to repeated head injuries like concussion.

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Speaker 3: Meta is set to launch its rival to Twitter this week.

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Speaker 3: It's called Threads, and it's being marketed as Instagram's text

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Speaker 3: based conversation app. A preview of the app says it'll

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Speaker 3: be a place where communities come together to discuss everything

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Speaker 3: from the topics you care about today to what will

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Speaker 2: And today's good news very meaningful one this one. A

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Speaker 2: record number of women in New South Wales underwent breast

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Speaker 2: cancer screenings in May. Over thirty seven thousand mamograms were

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Speaker 2: completed during the month. Breast screenings are a key part

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Speaker 2: The shooting of a French teenager of Algerian and Moroccan

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Speaker 2: descent by French police sparked days of protests and riots

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Speaker 2: across the country. French leaders condemned the shooting of seventeen

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Speaker 2: year old Nail Mazuk, and the police officer responsible has

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Speaker 2: thousands have been arrested, shops have been looted and hundreds

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Speaker 2: of vehicles have been set alike. But events over the

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Speaker 2: last week have focused the world's attention on some broader

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Speaker 2: racial and political tensions at play within France.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so let's take a back a step. There was

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Speaker 3: an event that triggered this broader social unrest.

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Speaker 2: Right, yeah, exactly, and that was the fatal shooting of

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Speaker 2: seventeen year old Mazouk on the twenty seventh of June

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Speaker 2: at a traffic stop in the Paris suburb of Nant.

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Speaker 2: French police are actually authorized to shoot at traffic stops

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Speaker 2: if they believed their safety is at risk. Now police

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Speaker 2: initially claimed Mazok had driven into them, but video footage

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Speaker 2: and French PM Elizabeth Bourne said it clearly violated police rules.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so those are fairly strong statements to be making.

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Speaker 3: But it hasn't stopped the public from taking to the streets.

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Speaker 2: Definitely, it's almost taken on a life of its own.

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Speaker 2: So in the days following Mazuk's death, demonstrators took to

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Speaker 2: priority is to restore order. Macron and Demanon both claimed

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Speaker 3: So, Sam, you said that that there's been looting, there's

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Speaker 3: How have police responded to these protests.

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Speaker 2: Well, there's been a real show of force from tens

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Speaker 2: faced with these wild hordes, asking for calm is no

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Speaker 2: and the union went further. It also threatened to act

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Speaker 3: And so we've seen this general unrest on the streets,

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Speaker 3: but it's also been taken to people's homes. Talk me

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Speaker 2: Well, no, and even it's not the first time we've

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Speaker 2: owned international news network It's called France twenty four, Muzook

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Speaker 3: This is a story that we have read many times before,

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Speaker 3: especially in the US. It all sparked the Black Lives

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Speaker 2: Well, Zara, it's definitely something that the French police have

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Speaker 2: deep issues of racism and discrimination in law enforcement. Now,

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Speaker 3: This whole situation has obviously drawn international attention. I mean

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Speaker 3: not just to the police force, but also to France

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Speaker 2: Well, I think the French president now is quite used

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Speaker 2: in twenty seventeen, there's been a number of them. Earlier

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Speaker 2: last year's election, but the more recent opinion polls show

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Speaker 2: that sixty seven percent of French voters disapprove of him.

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Speaker 3: It'll be interesting to see what's happened over the last

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Speaker 2: We'll see if there's any movement there. Definitely, and it's

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Speaker 2: also important to keep in mind that crime and race

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Speaker 2: it could be easy for his opponents, especially Nationalist leader

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