1 00:00:02,320 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Hi everyone, and welcome to the AO Show. We're back 2 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: with another edition this week of the Sitdown, brought to 3 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 1: you by me matrolopeofozopen dot Com and Australian Tennis magazine 4 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 1: editor Viv Christy. How are you, Viv? 5 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 2: Hey Matt, I'm great, Thank you and it's great to 6 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 2: be back here with you for the sit Down and 7 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 2: we have a really special episode this week. You had 8 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 2: a wonderful chat with a real legend of Australian tennis 9 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:24,280 Speaker 2: in Judy Dolton. 10 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:26,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was great to chat to her in line 11 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 1: with the fact that the Charleston Tournament has just finished, 12 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 1: which is the longest running women's only professional tournament in 13 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 1: the world and one of the original WTA events back 14 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 1: from the seventies, and as Judy is a member of 15 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:39,200 Speaker 1: the Original Nine, it kind of felt great to talk 16 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:42,839 Speaker 1: to her about that tournament and that story more generally, 17 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 1: and at the end of the interview it was really lovely. 18 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:49,200 Speaker 1: She signed off by asking how's Viv going, which is really. 19 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 3: Soet I love Jude. 20 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 2: I won't lie, you know, I've known her for many 21 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 2: years and yeah, I'm just so pleased that the achievements 22 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 2: of the Original Nine and Judy and her contribution are 23 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 2: being recognized. So let's hear what she has to say. 24 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 1: Well, what do you what do you make of the 25 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 1: toy given it is such an historic event on the 26 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 1: women's tour, it's quite an important one. Yes, that's where 27 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:16,040 Speaker 1: they chose it, obviously as the site for your reunion. 28 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 1: What was it like going there and what was the 29 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 1: what was the mood of the reunion? What kinds of 30 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 1: things were celebrated. 31 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:24,839 Speaker 4: It was very emotional because we hadn't seen each other 32 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 4: for a long long time. But like I'd seen Bellie 33 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:31,399 Speaker 4: because you know, i'd seen it wimbled, don't want have you? 34 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 4: But I hadn't seen Nancy or Christie or Vale or Peachy. 35 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 4: I hadn't seen any of for ages and ages. And 36 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 4: it was and Charleston was really lovely because they at 37 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 4: the tournament, they reserved a room for us, which was 38 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 4: really nice, so that we so there was only us 39 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 4: in the room, okay, And I can remember that when 40 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 4: I went in the room and we met one another, 41 00:01:57,880 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 4: everybody burst into tears. 42 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 1: Oh wow. Obviously Charleston slash Hilt in the head. It's 43 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 1: in the South of America, in South Carolina and I've 44 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 1: found that there's in the early days of women's professional tennis, 45 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:13,639 Speaker 1: whether it was that invitational at Houston, the first tournament 46 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 1: you guys played for the one dollar contracts, and there's 47 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 1: obviously Billy Jean's Battle of the Sexes that was also 48 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 1: in Houston. You've got this long running tournament in South Carolina. 49 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 1: The South is known as quite a conservative place in America, 50 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 1: but you've got this progressive women's tennis movement that was 51 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 1: in line with like, you know, women's liberation and Title 52 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 1: nine and all of them. That has always been to me, like, yeah, 53 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 1: this progressive women's tennis movement often unfolding in a place 54 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:42,080 Speaker 1: that's culturally maybe not that way. 55 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 4: It's interestingly saying that because you know, there's a lot 56 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 4: of wealth down there, and a lot of wealthy people, 57 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 4: and yet they were very You would have thought that 58 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 4: they wouldn't be for women's ten tournaments, you know, for 59 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 4: women's tennis, and yet they were. They supported us really well, 60 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 4: and there were a lot not a lot of men, 61 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:04,800 Speaker 4: but there was a high percentage of men came as well, 62 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 4: which the women brought their husbands along. You know, maybe 63 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 4: they were quite well. I would have thought that they 64 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 4: would be reasonably well educated. 65 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 3: Therefore they might have thought that it's good to support 66 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:19,919 Speaker 3: the women. 67 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:22,679 Speaker 4: You know, I don't know, because I think they might 68 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 4: have thought the same way as what glad As Hellman thought, 69 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 4: you know, who had money. I mean, she was exceptional, 70 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 4: but do you know what I mean? A lot of 71 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 4: her friends were all into tennis, really into tennis and 72 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 4: for the women's tennis. 73 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 1: So when you all get together, you said that the 74 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 1: Charleston one was very emotional, you will cry. Is that 75 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 1: does that happen every time? Or have the kind of dynamic? No? 76 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 4: Well, no, because now we've seen each other sooner, if 77 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 4: you know what I mean, You know, there hasn't been 78 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 4: such a such a big gap, but when we went 79 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 4: to Charleston there was a huge gap. 80 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 3: So well, it could well have been like fifteen years. 81 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 4: And I think also when we said goodbye, it was 82 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 4: most because we thought, well, we might never see each 83 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 4: other again. And I don't know how we are still 84 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 4: it's still around, Yes, So you know, it's pretty amazing 85 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 4: when you think about it. 86 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 1: Oh, I think I think so too. So what kinds 87 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 1: of things do you talk about now? Do you talk 88 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 1: a lot about tennis or is it life, like when 89 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:20,839 Speaker 1: you all get together, what's the dynamic? 90 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 4: Like, I know, we did well, we talk about the tennis, 91 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 4: watching it, but not particularly but we talked about what 92 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 4: everybody was doing and did or how they were getting on. 93 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 3: And and things like that, you know. 94 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:39,719 Speaker 4: I mean, yes we talked about tennis, but it wasn't 95 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:42,919 Speaker 4: the principle thing of it. And you'd say do you 96 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 4: remember this or do you remember that you know, and 97 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 4: somebody'd say, nah, I don't remember that happened at that tournament. 98 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:52,279 Speaker 3: But we sort of kind of reminisced. 99 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 1: More just generally, like are you keeping up with tennis 100 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 1: these days? A lot? Watching a lot? 101 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:58,160 Speaker 4: And well I tried to, Like I tried to, and 102 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:03,600 Speaker 4: I mean I always watch. I mean I always look 103 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:05,839 Speaker 4: at it, look at the results and all that sort 104 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:08,479 Speaker 4: of thing. And if I don't know somebody, I would 105 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 4: ask about somebody. And like the Australian, you know, I 106 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 4: went most days, so you sort of touch up with 107 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 4: a lot of people and so, you know, so I'd 108 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:21,159 Speaker 4: just like to keep it an eye and just see 109 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:22,160 Speaker 4: how things are going. 110 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:26,599 Speaker 3: But that doesn't necessarily say that I know what's happened 111 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:26,720 Speaker 3: to me. 112 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 1: What do you think about the state of the women's 113 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 1: game now. 114 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:35,280 Speaker 4: I don't think you should ever compare decades with decades, 115 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:38,159 Speaker 4: if you know what I mean, Because I think because 116 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 4: everything has changed so much, like Matt, if we'd been 117 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:47,480 Speaker 4: doing what we did today, would like when we started 118 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:50,720 Speaker 4: the original, would we have been able to achieve what 119 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 4: we did, because you don't know how what the press 120 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:57,839 Speaker 4: would have been, what anything would have been like, because 121 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 4: everything's changed so much, And. 122 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 3: Do you know what I mean? 123 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 4: And I think that we like it might have been 124 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:10,479 Speaker 4: beneficial to us because the press might have taken each 125 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 4: of us and promoted us, if you do you know 126 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 4: what I mean by that? Whereas whereas then we have 127 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 4: to try and do all that ourselves and try and 128 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:25,280 Speaker 4: and and cope with them with trying to promote and 129 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 4: to play and to make sure that we that we 130 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:31,919 Speaker 4: looked after the sponsors and things like that. Whereas now 131 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 4: but to me that the tennis players today really only 132 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 4: have to concentrate on playing tennis. You know, they don't 133 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:42,840 Speaker 4: have to organize themselves to practice courts because somebody else 134 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 4: does it for them. 135 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 3: That you know, do you know what I mean? 136 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:49,480 Speaker 4: They get, They get everything everything given to them. 137 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 3: Look, I'm not not against that at all. 138 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:54,479 Speaker 4: But you know, for instance, I tell I always tell 139 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:59,359 Speaker 4: the story of Leslie Barry when she'd won the French 140 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 4: and we I played with them that one year and 141 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 4: she in those days, you know, we had to write 142 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 4: because there was no emails or phones or anything, which 143 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 4: which today people the tennis place don't understand. 144 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 3: And we had to write and say, you know, we wanted. 145 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 4: To book at the hotel, and and we did that 146 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 4: and we arrived as char Salisee and of course there 147 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 4: was nobody there and we had we had bags, it 148 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 4: didn't have any wheels on them. We still had wooden rackets. 149 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 4: That's how long ago what? 150 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 3: And we we we. 151 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 4: Had to get a bus from the from the airport 152 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 4: to Charslice and then walked down to the hotel. When 153 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 4: we got to the hotel, there was this huge hole 154 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 4: in the ground and I said, well, Leslie, obviously the 155 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 4: hotel's not there, is it? 156 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 3: You know, where is it? She said, But I've got 157 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 3: the letter that says are here. 158 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 1: And I said, well, oh, well, you mean like it 159 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 1: had been demolished or something. 160 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 3: So I went next door and in my limited friends 161 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 3: over there. 162 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 4: You know what happened to the hotel and they said, oh, 163 00:07:57,520 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 4: it's been demolished and again but new what. 164 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 3: And I said, well, that's very difficult because we've come 165 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 3: to play the French Championships, which they didn't even know 166 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 3: what we were talking about seriously, and we said we 167 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 3: need a hotel for two weeks. They said, you'll never 168 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 3: get a hotel for two weeks, so this is not 169 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 3: a lie. 170 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 4: We walked the streets of Paris for two hours looking 171 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 4: for a hotel that we could stay for two weeks, 172 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 4: and here was Leslie who was the French champion, and 173 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 4: then of course she wanted again. And I just keep 174 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 4: saying to everybody, can you imagine in today's thing that 175 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:35,960 Speaker 4: that would ever happen? 176 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, no, that would that would That's an 177 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 1: absurd story. 178 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 4: There's such a huge difference between the conditions, the equipment, 179 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 4: the treatment of the players. So in a way, all 180 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 4: they have to do is concentrate on that one thing 181 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:59,080 Speaker 4: of playing basically everything else, every other aspect it is 182 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 4: looked after, where in our day we had to just 183 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 4: look after ourselves. 184 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess in a way, this is what you 185 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 1: fought for. The women's game has gotten to such a 186 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 1: point that isn't that fantastic that the athletes only have 187 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 1: to concentrate on practicing and preparing and training. 188 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 4: And they make a living and they're able to do 189 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:21,319 Speaker 4: whatever they want to do. 190 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:23,960 Speaker 3: Yes, that was the whole purpose of it. You know. 191 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 4: I think that people and that when we when we 192 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 4: signed for the dollar bill, I think everybody thought, oh, 193 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 4: we were all for equal prize money. Well, I can 194 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 4: tell you when we when we did that, we never 195 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:38,200 Speaker 4: envisaged that like that was the pipe tream really, but 196 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 4: we wanted to be able to earn some money and 197 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 4: to have the opportunity and recognition and all that. But 198 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:49,679 Speaker 4: but you know, so many people, especially the men, they 199 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:51,839 Speaker 4: always used to say, oh, you did it for was 200 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:54,200 Speaker 4: to get equal prize money, And I keep saying, No, 201 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 4: that wasn't what it was for. 202 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 3: That, That's not why we did it. 203 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 4: We wanted to have the opportunity to earn more money. 204 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 4: And yes, if equal price money happened, well that was 205 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:07,199 Speaker 4: a huge bonus, which which had happened, But that wasn't 206 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 4: That wasn't our idea. We never thought that it would 207 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 4: happen then, but you know it was. It's wonderful that 208 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 4: it did. But but what I'm saying is I think 209 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 4: everybody thought, oh, you know, that's that's what we want 210 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 4: to have, and that's what we did for which which 211 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:23,680 Speaker 4: was nice. 212 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:25,679 Speaker 1: No, it was a different mission statement. 213 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:26,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Yeah. 214 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 4: What I would say was the opportunities today are far 215 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 4: greater than the opportunities that we had to play tennis. 216 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 3: Does that make sense? 217 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 1: That makes perfect sense? You know, would you have liked 218 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:41,320 Speaker 1: to play then in this era in that way that 219 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:43,439 Speaker 1: you described everything taking care of you can concentrate on 220 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 1: the professionalism. It's funny, did you, oh, you would have 221 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 1: preferred this era? Yes? 222 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 4: That was I think that was maybe one thing we said. 223 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 4: I wouldn't have been nice to play today. We would 224 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 4: have to worry about this week. But then you know, 225 00:10:57,400 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 4: on the other hand, it could make you lazy and 226 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:01,959 Speaker 4: you think, oh, well I don't have to worry to you, 227 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:05,319 Speaker 4: but I'm getting everything looked after. It could be twofold, 228 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 4: you know, it could be could be both ways. 229 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 3: Do you think, oh, you know, maybe I don't. 230 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:14,440 Speaker 4: Whereas we because we had to do everything for ourselves, 231 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:17,680 Speaker 4: we had to be self efficient, whereas the players today 232 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 4: really aren't. Yeah, you know, like like you know that 233 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 4: for instance, you know, we had to make sure we 234 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:27,680 Speaker 4: entered in every tournament things, you know, And there's cases 235 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:32,560 Speaker 4: where people didn't enter Wimbledon because they forgot and then 236 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:33,200 Speaker 4: missed out. 237 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:36,079 Speaker 3: Well, could you imagine that happening today? It did. Never happened. 238 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:38,319 Speaker 1: No, it's very very rare for a player to miss out. 239 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 1: I do hear the odd story about like a player 240 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 1: or the agent like forgot to enter the minute tournament. 241 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 1: Then they suddenly have to enter qualifying because they didn't 242 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 1: in the main job. That's so unusual for that to happen. 243 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:50,680 Speaker 3: Yes, we'll see. We didn't have qualifying Well you're the 244 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 3: only ones that had. Well, the only ones who had 245 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 3: the qualifyings were the Grand slams. 246 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 1: Oh, that's so interesting. Who do you like watching? 247 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 4: I like watching, right be Keen think she's she's great 248 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 4: to watch. I love watching and her demeanor and everything 249 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 4: is maybe she's a bit too laid back, you see. 250 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 3: I don't know, but she but I like I like. 251 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 4: Her and and and Sabalanka. You've got to you've got 252 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:23,839 Speaker 4: to admire like you know, I admire for for overcoming. 253 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:26,560 Speaker 4: You know, look with a servant. All that do I 254 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 4: watch is overcome and everything. And I quite like watching her. 255 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 4: And the one I do love in the Doubles is 256 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 4: that Chinese girl that played with Merchants sometimes. She's amazing. 257 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 4: I mean she's thirty seven, Matt. She's just incredible, you know. 258 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 4: And she said she was very funny because I spoke 259 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 4: to her after she'd one of the Ladies Doubles and 260 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:53,680 Speaker 4: she was playing the mix. No, no, she played the 261 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:56,439 Speaker 4: mix that's right, and I present her with the Trophy 262 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 4: of the Wealth. 263 00:12:57,360 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, and then she was playing the Ladies Doubles. 264 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:03,960 Speaker 4: It open it and and I said, oh you know that. 265 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:06,680 Speaker 4: She said, oh, she said, I'd like to win the 266 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:09,200 Speaker 4: other double. She said, because there's a lot of money 267 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:09,439 Speaker 4: in it. 268 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 1: She's such a character. I like her. Yeah. 269 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, but he's amazed, but he's amazing prayer and like 270 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:21,560 Speaker 4: Si Teck, you've got to you, you've got to admire. 271 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 4: But I mean it's good for instance that that that 272 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 4: I think that Halen's come back again. I think that 273 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 4: that one might add another dementia to it if she 274 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 4: if she can, you know, if she can play as 275 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 4: well as what she did before, I mean, that mightn't happen. 276 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 4: Like Osaka is trying and she's getting there. But I 277 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 4: think that's going to be a hard one for her, 278 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 4: but it would be good if she did it as well. 279 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 3: You know. 280 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:48,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, There's definitely been lots of like comebacks to see 281 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:51,200 Speaker 1: which has added some you know yeah texture back into 282 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 1: the tour potentially. 283 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 4: Well, like Kerber plays played pretty well and most Arki's 284 00:13:56,200 --> 00:14:00,440 Speaker 4: playing well and if halenp comes back again and Saka 285 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:01,319 Speaker 4: comes back. 286 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 3: Again, anyway, there we go. So we wait and see, We'll. 287 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 1: Wait and see. Yeah, Judy, thank you so much. This 288 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 1: is great. 289 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 3: You're very welcome, and say hi to Vivre. 290 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 1: I will always Matt. 291 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 2: Congratulations, what a fabulous interviewer. Was so lovely to hear 292 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 2: Judy's insights. 293 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 1: Thanks Viv. 294 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 2: We'll be back next week for the sit down and 295 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 2: we talk to another legend of Australian tennis, Sam Stozer. 296 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 2: And in the meantime you can listen to John and 297 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 2: the team on the AO Show weekly. Details for how 298 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 2: to contact us are in the show notes, and please subscribe, 299 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 2: rate and review. 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