WEBVTT - ALEISHA GETS HONEST ABOUT HER BB EXPERIENCE! 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:01.720 It's in the news today, but it was actually on 0:00:01.800 --> 0:00:03.600 TV Reload the podcast last week. 0:00:03.640 --> 0:00:05.920 They might welcome back to TV Reload. 0:00:06.160 --> 0:00:08.960 My name's Benjamin Norris and on this podcast, I go 0:00:09.039 --> 0:00:12.920 behind the scenes with the biggest players in television. Each 0:00:12.960 --> 0:00:15.840 episode you will get a front row seat with content 0:00:15.920 --> 0:00:21.120 makers like executive producers, writers, editors, and casting agents, plus 0:00:21.200 --> 0:00:24.720 the talent that we see on our screens. TV Reload 0:00:24.840 --> 0:00:28.200 reloads the shows that you were currently watching and gives 0:00:28.240 --> 0:00:31.640 you a better insight at our television industry and streaming 0:00:31.720 --> 0:00:34.839 services today. On the podcast, I have the impulsive and 0:00:34.880 --> 0:00:37.680 strategic newbie from Big Brother twenty twenty two. 0:00:38.040 --> 0:00:39.200 It is Alisha. 0:00:40.040 --> 0:00:41.960 Just when you thought you had a shake and bake 0:00:42.120 --> 0:00:45.840 romance in the Big Brother house, think again. Alisha did 0:00:45.920 --> 0:00:49.479 fall for the handsome and very single housemate Joel, and 0:00:49.600 --> 0:00:53.080 when the feelings weren't exactly reciprocated and her love interest 0:00:53.120 --> 0:00:56.440 got the boot, we saw a self confessed head player 0:00:56.560 --> 0:00:59.200 take on and take out some of the biggest names 0:00:59.200 --> 0:00:59.720 in Big Brother. 0:00:59.800 --> 0:01:03.000 Hit this series, Alisha really. 0:01:02.720 --> 0:01:06.160 Gave the competition her all like it, love it, hate it, 0:01:06.200 --> 0:01:08.760 despise it. I have to say she was one of 0:01:08.840 --> 0:01:12.040 the best players we have seen in the last three years. 0:01:12.600 --> 0:01:15.039 Back in the day Big Brother alumni Sarah Marie one 0:01:15.080 --> 0:01:17.720 over her fans with a bum dance and bird fish 0:01:17.720 --> 0:01:20.720 and chips. Flash forward to now, we didn't see any 0:01:20.720 --> 0:01:23.920 of those gimmicks from Alisha. We did see some burt 0:01:23.959 --> 0:01:27.640 relationships along the way, though. Those who love a ruthless 0:01:27.640 --> 0:01:30.520 game will be with me on the love and support 0:01:30.560 --> 0:01:34.639 of Alicia's ruthless gameplay. We will talk Big Brother edits, 0:01:34.680 --> 0:01:38.520 the problematic what's app group, her female inspirations growing up, 0:01:38.720 --> 0:01:42.479 and some firm answers as I ask her. Gretel Colleen's 0:01:42.600 --> 0:01:45.839 top ten questions from the early iteration of Big Brother, 0:01:46.080 --> 0:01:47.760 which you're really going to want to hear. 0:01:48.280 --> 0:01:49.600 However, let's get started. 0:01:49.800 --> 0:01:52.720 I'd like to welcome Alisha, our latest Big Brother of 0:01:52.760 --> 0:01:54.360 vic D to TV reload. 0:01:56.920 --> 0:01:58.880 To be honest with you, I don't have many strong 0:01:58.920 --> 0:02:00.920 female what is my life? 0:02:01.680 --> 0:02:04.040 We've been through a lot together, haven't we. 0:02:05.600 --> 0:02:07.520 I actually had no bad blood with anybody when the 0:02:07.520 --> 0:02:09.360 show ended this year. 0:02:10.400 --> 0:02:13.240 It's my twenty first birthday. 0:02:13.880 --> 0:02:15.639 Everybody thinks of the main character. 0:02:16.760 --> 0:02:23.040 And I've invited housemates both new and legendary. 0:02:23.720 --> 0:02:26.600 Whoever shoots at you first shoot back. 0:02:27.520 --> 0:02:31.959 Will experience be enough to take on the next generation 0:02:32.120 --> 0:02:34.320 of housemaid face. 0:02:34.520 --> 0:02:38.079 I wouldn't be being true to myself if I didn't 0:02:38.080 --> 0:02:39.400 say people in my life. 0:02:39.480 --> 0:02:40.960 This is big brother. 0:02:41.160 --> 0:02:42.840 Hi Alisha, how are you? 0:02:43.560 --> 0:02:45.280 Hi? Ben Nora? So amazing? How are you? 0:02:46.320 --> 0:02:49.520 I just want to say that you have really surprised 0:02:49.560 --> 0:02:52.959 me this season. You've really earned your place. How did 0:02:52.960 --> 0:02:55.480 your gameplay evolve over the series? 0:02:55.760 --> 0:02:58.440 I think definitely a pivotal point in my game was 0:02:58.560 --> 0:03:02.800 Joel leaving and me coming, you know, being sad and 0:03:02.840 --> 0:03:04.600 being like, oh my gosh, you didn't kiss me to 0:03:04.960 --> 0:03:08.239 this strong woman who was you know, leading the newbies 0:03:08.320 --> 0:03:10.799 and making those decisions on who we're going to keep 0:03:10.840 --> 0:03:12.680 and essentially vote out from the other side. 0:03:12.800 --> 0:03:14.880 But I want to know how did you manage to 0:03:14.919 --> 0:03:18.240 stick to your plans? Because I easily evolve in my 0:03:18.320 --> 0:03:20.720 own world and I changed my mind all the time, 0:03:20.880 --> 0:03:23.400 but you were never really distracted by what you set 0:03:23.400 --> 0:03:24.639 out to do from day one. 0:03:24.639 --> 0:03:25.920 In my mind, yeah. 0:03:25.800 --> 0:03:29.240 I think my plan going in was whoever shoots at 0:03:29.280 --> 0:03:32.840 you first shoot back, and then keep going until you 0:03:32.960 --> 0:03:35.200 kind of get them out. And for me, when a 0:03:35.280 --> 0:03:37.360 Stelle kind of went at the j crew on day 0:03:37.400 --> 0:03:40.280 seventeen Joel Johnson and JC. Yes, it wasn't a direct 0:03:40.280 --> 0:03:43.120 attack on me, but it was my alliance, and for me, 0:03:43.520 --> 0:03:46.880 I knew that, Okay, if someone's making those big moves 0:03:46.880 --> 0:03:49.040 on the other side, that's who I need to go for, 0:03:49.160 --> 0:03:52.440 because they're the leader of the other side, even if 0:03:52.440 --> 0:03:53.120 they're not saying it. 0:03:53.280 --> 0:03:56.400 Did you worry at times that people calling you the 0:03:56.480 --> 0:03:59.960 mob boss and making it out like you were so ruthless, 0:04:00.120 --> 0:04:03.560 you know that you would not necessarily endear yourself to 0:04:03.600 --> 0:04:05.000 the audience on the outside world. 0:04:05.320 --> 0:04:07.600 Yeah, So whenever Dave would say it, I would like, 0:04:07.680 --> 0:04:09.000 here doing it as a joke, like, oh, the mob 0:04:09.000 --> 0:04:10.240 boss over here, the bloody mob boss. 0:04:10.320 --> 0:04:13.080 I would be like, Dave, shut it, We're not doing this. 0:04:13.120 --> 0:04:14.960 Isn't a thing. We're not being this mob boss. 0:04:14.960 --> 0:04:17.080 He's like, it's like you know, you know when someone 0:04:17.120 --> 0:04:19.120 passes away and then the head of the family, the 0:04:19.120 --> 0:04:20.400 male and the female steps up. 0:04:20.400 --> 0:04:22.159 That was you With Joel. I was like, no, we're 0:04:22.160 --> 0:04:23.640 not doing this story. It's not a thing. 0:04:24.120 --> 0:04:26.359 But yeah, I definitely tried to shut it down because 0:04:26.400 --> 0:04:28.680 I didn't want to come across to the other house 0:04:28.760 --> 0:04:30.880 mates like that, but to the public, I mean you 0:04:30.880 --> 0:04:32.479 can flip it. I wanted to be seen as a 0:04:32.520 --> 0:04:35.960 strong woman, and I think I enjoy watching strong female 0:04:36.040 --> 0:04:37.280 leads and I want to be that. 0:04:37.360 --> 0:04:40.160 For you know, the younger people that do watch me. 0:04:40.240 --> 0:04:42.800 Brother, Well, that's a really good question because it came 0:04:42.839 --> 0:04:45.800 across like you must have very strong female role models 0:04:45.800 --> 0:04:46.440 in your life. 0:04:46.480 --> 0:04:48.320 Who has set that tone for you? 0:04:48.720 --> 0:04:50.640 To be honest with you, I don't have many strong 0:04:50.680 --> 0:04:52.599 female role models in my life. 0:04:52.680 --> 0:04:54.280 I am you know. 0:04:54.800 --> 0:04:58.679 I have been raising myself since probably seventeen years old, 0:04:58.800 --> 0:05:00.839 so I've had like a lot of like family. 0:05:00.560 --> 0:05:02.400 Friends, mums who have been role models for. 0:05:02.400 --> 0:05:05.960 Me, or ex partners mums, But I just for me, 0:05:06.120 --> 0:05:07.880 I took it as I didn't have that, and that's 0:05:07.920 --> 0:05:10.159 what I want to kind of be for people who 0:05:10.320 --> 0:05:12.839 like me, if they're sitting at homework TV watching someone 0:05:13.160 --> 0:05:15.039 and they don't have that strong female figure. 0:05:15.320 --> 0:05:17.360 What about people on television? You know growing up over 0:05:17.400 --> 0:05:20.200 the years, were there people on TV that you aspired 0:05:20.240 --> 0:05:21.120 to or not? 0:05:21.160 --> 0:05:22.960 Necessarily? Do we necessarily have. 0:05:22.960 --> 0:05:25.600 To have our role models in our real world? Sometimes 0:05:25.640 --> 0:05:28.719 we can aspire to celebrities characters. 0:05:28.160 --> 0:05:28.919 Like I agree. 0:05:28.920 --> 0:05:30.480 Well, I think one of the reasons why I did 0:05:30.480 --> 0:05:32.719 apply for Your Brother was because there were other people 0:05:32.960 --> 0:05:36.280 on those shows. I think personally, I remember being in 0:05:36.279 --> 0:05:39.080 like grade ten and seeing Tully on TV and everyone 0:05:39.120 --> 0:05:42.400 was giving her shit, sorry my language for you know, 0:05:42.560 --> 0:05:44.440 crying all the time. But I saw it as how 0:05:44.440 --> 0:05:46.680 cool is that that someone's on TV and being upset 0:05:46.720 --> 0:05:48.960 and can own it, like just own it. And you know, 0:05:49.120 --> 0:05:51.280 maybe now she's a bit older, she has learned to 0:05:51.320 --> 0:05:52.840 own it, but I think back then she saw it 0:05:52.880 --> 0:05:54.719 as a negative. But me growing up, I was like, Wow, 0:05:54.880 --> 0:05:57.120 it's okay to cry type thing. And you see people 0:05:57.120 --> 0:05:59.560 even like son your Krugirl, She's bloody amazing. She's killing 0:05:59.600 --> 0:06:01.600 it on our screens for so long. I don't think 0:06:01.640 --> 0:06:03.880 she even gets a recognition as a female that maybe 0:06:03.880 --> 0:06:06.200 some other male presenters do. But yeah, she's a boss 0:06:06.200 --> 0:06:07.120 as well in her own way. 0:06:07.360 --> 0:06:10.599 So very surreal to find yourself. Then in a series 0:06:10.600 --> 0:06:14.000 of Big Brother with Tully, how does it fare watching 0:06:14.000 --> 0:06:15.960 her on television to living with her. 0:06:16.279 --> 0:06:20.080 I think Tully loves hard and she feels hard, and 0:06:20.120 --> 0:06:21.719 I think that's something that I learned as well. I 0:06:21.760 --> 0:06:23.839 think she was really upset when I put my points 0:06:23.880 --> 0:06:26.080 on her own house nooms, even though it was a game. 0:06:26.240 --> 0:06:28.600 And I think my biggest thing was I don't care 0:06:28.640 --> 0:06:29.840 if you guys put your point to me, y' I'll 0:06:29.880 --> 0:06:32.320 be upset, but I can still move on with my 0:06:32.400 --> 0:06:34.920 day and go, okay, put yourself together, let's keep going. 0:06:34.920 --> 0:06:37.080 But I think some people really took it to heart, 0:06:37.120 --> 0:06:38.919 and that was that big difference that we kept hearing 0:06:38.960 --> 0:06:41.560 about head players and heart players, and I think Tully 0:06:41.720 --> 0:06:43.760 was definitely a heart player, and I think she tried 0:06:43.800 --> 0:06:45.800 to be a head player but she just couldn't. She 0:06:45.800 --> 0:06:48.560 couldn't get there in the end. But it was amazing 0:06:48.600 --> 0:06:51.640 living with her because she, like I said, she does 0:06:51.720 --> 0:06:52.200 love hard. 0:06:52.440 --> 0:06:54.720 I felt like you went and hid in that walking 0:06:55.040 --> 0:06:57.800 closet area and then the look on Tully's face where 0:06:57.839 --> 0:06:58.680 she was like did you. 0:06:59.120 --> 0:06:59.839 Fuming that day? 0:07:00.160 --> 0:07:02.920 Because I was a victor, I was put up, she 0:07:03.000 --> 0:07:05.560 was swopped out to be not evicted, and Estelle had 0:07:05.560 --> 0:07:07.360 put me in. So in my head, I was going, 0:07:07.480 --> 0:07:08.880 I went in there just to breathe because I was 0:07:08.880 --> 0:07:09.560 going to punch themone. 0:07:09.600 --> 0:07:11.520 I was like, let me just breathe. 0:07:11.560 --> 0:07:13.040 So I went in there and then I had Then 0:07:13.200 --> 0:07:15.280 she came in and I was like, no, like not now, 0:07:15.320 --> 0:07:17.440 like this is like I will like, you know, you're 0:07:17.480 --> 0:07:19.080 just angry and someone comes in You're like, this is 0:07:19.120 --> 0:07:21.640 the wrong time. Like let me just like feel like 0:07:21.680 --> 0:07:23.880 I've just been nominated with zero point and I will 0:07:23.920 --> 0:07:25.720 probably go home because I'm one of the biggest threats 0:07:25.760 --> 0:07:28.080 in that lineup Withdrew. So I was like, let me 0:07:28.240 --> 0:07:30.520 just breathe for a second. This is about me. It's 0:07:30.520 --> 0:07:31.320 about me right now. 0:07:31.680 --> 0:07:34.040 Well, you handled it really well and then you articulated 0:07:34.040 --> 0:07:36.800 that to her. And I have known Telly for a 0:07:36.800 --> 0:07:39.760 really long time and I know very few people that 0:07:39.800 --> 0:07:41.080 are willing to stand up to her. 0:07:41.440 --> 0:07:43.800 And it was good television, I know, I. 0:07:43.760 --> 0:07:44.360 Think as well. 0:07:44.480 --> 0:07:46.680 After I did it, like I was like, this could 0:07:46.680 --> 0:07:48.000 come back fin me because I was like, she's gonna 0:07:48.000 --> 0:07:49.760 go straight to the diar room and just talk smack 0:07:49.840 --> 0:07:51.880 to the brother about me. But she kind of was 0:07:52.000 --> 0:07:53.880 like she think she came to a few people said 0:07:53.880 --> 0:07:56.040 to her, Telly, it's about Alisha. She's been nominated. Just 0:07:56.160 --> 0:07:58.000 chill for a second. She will talk to you about 0:07:58.000 --> 0:08:00.120 why she nominated you. At the end of the day. 0:08:00.160 --> 0:08:02.320 Every time I was in the chair, Hully had put 0:08:02.320 --> 0:08:04.600 points on me like it's a fact she voted for 0:08:04.640 --> 0:08:05.320 me against Trevor. 0:08:05.600 --> 0:08:07.080 She voted to keep Gabby over me. 0:08:07.200 --> 0:08:09.520 Like, there was just a few times where I was like, well, 0:08:09.680 --> 0:08:11.520 if I'm getting points put on me, then why can't 0:08:11.520 --> 0:08:12.200 it go the other way? 0:08:12.360 --> 0:08:13.280 That was kind of my thing. 0:08:13.480 --> 0:08:16.280 Can we talk about going to Big Brother and telling 0:08:16.280 --> 0:08:18.640 on the other housemates? It did become a thing with 0:08:19.000 --> 0:08:21.280 Tim and Estelle where Estelle said I'm going to go 0:08:21.280 --> 0:08:23.160 and have a chat with Big Brother and Tim went, 0:08:23.240 --> 0:08:24.200 I'll go and go. 0:08:24.120 --> 0:08:27.200 Tell on us or whatever. I was laughing. Is that 0:08:27.280 --> 0:08:29.520 really how it is? Do you think in Big Brother? 0:08:29.600 --> 0:08:31.360 Do you think a lot of housemates do go in 0:08:31.400 --> 0:08:33.360 to sort of go and tell on the others And 0:08:33.400 --> 0:08:35.040 does Big Brother even play into that. 0:08:35.320 --> 0:08:38.520 Look, I would never go and tell on someone like. 0:08:38.559 --> 0:08:40.839 I would never go and jump into Big Brother like 0:08:40.880 --> 0:08:42.320 I would go on an event. I used him as 0:08:42.320 --> 0:08:44.679 like my SYC. I was like, perfect, get me in 0:08:44.840 --> 0:08:46.800 free SYCH session, not one hundred bucks an hour, it's 0:08:46.840 --> 0:08:49.600 free perfect, And Big Brother would he would reply, he 0:08:49.720 --> 0:08:52.240 was like, really he was a great listener. But I 0:08:52.240 --> 0:08:55.840 would never go and tell on something that another housemate did. 0:08:55.960 --> 0:08:58.720 But I think that just shows the different type of 0:08:58.720 --> 0:08:59.440 people in the house. 0:08:59.520 --> 0:09:01.840 I'm only this because that happened in my series for 0:09:01.880 --> 0:09:05.080 the entire series was some particular housemates were going in 0:09:05.120 --> 0:09:07.720 there and telling and telling on me, and then I'd 0:09:07.760 --> 0:09:09.240 have to go in and Big Brother would sort of 0:09:09.360 --> 0:09:10.960 try and unpack it with me, and I was like, 0:09:11.040 --> 0:09:11.839 are you my dad? 0:09:12.160 --> 0:09:12.800 Are you my dad? 0:09:12.880 --> 0:09:13.720 Yeah? 0:09:13.760 --> 0:09:15.760 Exactly, And when we're not children here, it's a game. 0:09:15.800 --> 0:09:18.959 It's any fun, lighthearted. I don't think anybody is necessarily 0:09:19.040 --> 0:09:21.240 mean on the show. I don't think there's any bullying 0:09:21.320 --> 0:09:24.240 or nastiness. I think that we're all a unique bunch 0:09:24.280 --> 0:09:26.320 of humans. To get put into a house together, there's 0:09:26.320 --> 0:09:28.319 going to be complete. But it's about, you know, being 0:09:28.320 --> 0:09:30.320 an adult. That's why people over the edge of eighteen 0:09:30.360 --> 0:09:34.120 can apply only and go okay, let's how are we 0:09:34.160 --> 0:09:34.880 going to work through this? 0:09:35.120 --> 0:09:39.000 It is interesting though, because Estelle plays real world as 0:09:39.000 --> 0:09:40.959 she does Big Brother, and then talking to some of 0:09:41.040 --> 0:09:44.160 the housemates after the show, it's really confusing for her 0:09:44.160 --> 0:09:46.840 in a way because justice, in her mind, should serve 0:09:46.880 --> 0:09:47.920 itself the same way. 0:09:48.200 --> 0:09:50.120 However, the game of Big Brother now. 0:09:49.960 --> 0:09:53.760 Has evolved and correct it is sort of halfway between 0:09:53.840 --> 0:09:56.920 sort of Big Brother and Survivor, and Survivor is rewarding 0:09:56.920 --> 0:09:59.679 people for good resumes, bold moves and all of this 0:09:59.720 --> 0:10:01.840 stuff that in the real world, it could be in 0:10:01.880 --> 0:10:04.199 real trouble if you if you did one. 0:10:03.960 --> 0:10:06.760 Hundred percent, And I definitely voiced that so many times 0:10:06.760 --> 0:10:09.600 in the eviction room, like I feel like I said, guys, 0:10:09.679 --> 0:10:11.160 and I feel like I was a broken record. I 0:10:11.200 --> 0:10:12.480 was like, if I have one of those dolls where 0:10:12.520 --> 0:10:14.439 you pull the string, this is what I'd say. It's 0:10:14.440 --> 0:10:16.640 a game, guys, let's play. It's a game. So I'm 0:10:16.679 --> 0:10:19.320 just like, I have no like when a Stelle put 0:10:19.360 --> 0:10:20.760 me up and didn't get shown, but I said to her, 0:10:20.920 --> 0:10:22.719 a Stelle because I needed five minutes to breathe, like 0:10:22.760 --> 0:10:24.120 I said, But I actually went up to her later 0:10:24.120 --> 0:10:26.000 and said, I get it. It was a great move, 0:10:26.000 --> 0:10:28.560 and as a head player, I actually respect it. But 0:10:28.679 --> 0:10:30.520 the thing that annoyed me, and hence why you saw 0:10:30.559 --> 0:10:32.079 the annoyance which everyone was like, oh why is the 0:10:32.120 --> 0:10:32.839 leash getting annoyed? 0:10:32.880 --> 0:10:34.439 Which she liked, you know, to play big moves. 0:10:34.520 --> 0:10:37.240 It's because I get frustrated when people say they're heart 0:10:37.280 --> 0:10:39.480 players and they just made a massive move. 0:10:39.559 --> 0:10:40.480 It's like, own the move. 0:10:40.520 --> 0:10:40.720 It was. 0:10:40.760 --> 0:10:42.960 It was a great head move, so own it. As 0:10:42.960 --> 0:10:44.280 a head move. Don't come to me. 0:10:44.240 --> 0:10:46.400 And say, oh, leash like that was with my heart, 0:10:46.440 --> 0:10:48.280 because it's like, well, hang on a minute, you've got 0:10:48.360 --> 0:10:50.559 girl Boss tattooed on your arm or girl Gang or 0:10:50.559 --> 0:10:52.000 whatever it is. It's like, well, you just put a 0:10:52.040 --> 0:10:53.680 chick up when there was a lot of other blokes 0:10:53.720 --> 0:10:55.040 you could have put up. So don't say you want 0:10:55.040 --> 0:10:56.640 a girl to be in the final when you're putting 0:10:56.640 --> 0:10:58.720 me in the nomination chairs. 0:10:59.040 --> 0:11:02.480 Honestly, you are so iconic in my mind when it 0:11:02.520 --> 0:11:05.040 comes to this series because it is a brutal game. 0:11:05.320 --> 0:11:08.320 My only question that I felt for the newbies and 0:11:08.400 --> 0:11:11.760 it's indigative. So many newbies have made it to the end. 0:11:12.000 --> 0:11:15.480 Are some of the newbies forgetting though about this public vote? 0:11:15.480 --> 0:11:18.960 Do you think Australia would have rewarded you, say, with 0:11:19.040 --> 0:11:21.319 the top prize if you'd made it to the end? 0:11:21.520 --> 0:11:26.000 Look, I personally think the newbies didn't realize how gypped 0:11:26.040 --> 0:11:28.720 we were going to be until the season came to air, 0:11:28.800 --> 0:11:30.880 because I think when we found out it was OG's 0:11:30.880 --> 0:11:33.320 first newbies, we were all so excited as we should be, 0:11:33.440 --> 0:11:35.280 like we're all on the game of Big Brother because 0:11:35.280 --> 0:11:37.840 we love Big Brother, so we were I think, like 0:11:37.880 --> 0:11:40.040 really excited, and we're voting these people out like we 0:11:40.040 --> 0:11:41.960 wouldn't a normal season if there was just you know, 0:11:42.000 --> 0:11:44.920 twenty two newbies. But seeing the episodes come to light 0:11:45.000 --> 0:11:46.880 and seeing the newbies we put on the back foot, 0:11:46.960 --> 0:11:49.400 I think now I maybe would have played my game differently, 0:11:49.400 --> 0:11:52.600 which is sad because people are saying, you know, you 0:11:52.640 --> 0:11:54.640 know Queen Reggie, and we love Farma Dave, and we 0:11:54.679 --> 0:11:56.880 love Estelle and we love you know, all of these 0:11:56.960 --> 0:11:58.959 tim and all these people, and it's like, oh, well, 0:11:58.960 --> 0:12:00.480 if I knew that from the start, then my game 0:12:00.480 --> 0:12:01.360 would have just been stuck. 0:12:01.200 --> 0:12:01.920 Up to the Ogs. 0:12:01.960 --> 0:12:05.240 But that's not how Alicia authentically wanted to play. So 0:12:05.240 --> 0:12:07.520 that's why now I'm a bit like, oh, I don't know. 0:12:07.559 --> 0:12:09.240 I think a lot of us newbies are just a 0:12:09.280 --> 0:12:14.480 bit like upset with the public that they're so OG obsessed. 0:12:14.720 --> 0:12:16.319 At the end of the day, the Ogs were newbies 0:12:16.360 --> 0:12:17.000 once as well. 0:12:17.280 --> 0:12:18.920 Can I run something past you? Though? 0:12:19.280 --> 0:12:22.400 There is a lot of thought about this and about 0:12:22.400 --> 0:12:24.920 the OG's having a lot of support on the outside. 0:12:24.960 --> 0:12:28.160 Now those people have been interacting with a fan base 0:12:28.360 --> 0:12:32.760 and the media and noisy people who use platforms that 0:12:32.880 --> 0:12:37.600 maybe your newbie fan base aren't necessarily using now. I 0:12:37.600 --> 0:12:40.559 don't know about you are, but if you were following 0:12:40.559 --> 0:12:43.560 Big Brother, would you be using the old forums, the 0:12:43.640 --> 0:12:48.440 old Twitter or Facebook and things to generate your popularity. 0:12:48.600 --> 0:12:50.840 I don't think so. And so I think that there 0:12:51.360 --> 0:12:54.559 is a really big misunderstanding about how many people are 0:12:54.559 --> 0:12:59.040 loving you Johnson to Ras Brenton, like there's just there 0:12:59.120 --> 0:13:01.640 is a lot of love in the world for the 0:13:01.720 --> 0:13:02.120 lot of you. 0:13:02.840 --> 0:13:04.559 So I wouldn't I know. 0:13:05.120 --> 0:13:08.400 And I think as well, I think it's unfair personally 0:13:08.480 --> 0:13:11.040 because I think I mean I at the start of 0:13:11.080 --> 0:13:12.960 the season, the first half of the season, and I 0:13:13.000 --> 0:13:16.240 still haven't but I haven't like ever egged on anyone 0:13:16.320 --> 0:13:18.040 talking smack about anybody else. 0:13:18.160 --> 0:13:20.560 I've always just seen the comments and been like, that's 0:13:20.600 --> 0:13:21.640 not nice. None deserves that. 0:13:21.840 --> 0:13:26.200 But I feel like other housemates are now connecting with 0:13:26.240 --> 0:13:28.160 these people who have these views that might say, yeah, 0:13:28.160 --> 0:13:30.600 why did Alisha do this X y Z or yeah, 0:13:30.640 --> 0:13:32.320 how could Alisha do that to you? And then there's 0:13:32.400 --> 0:13:35.160 interaction with the housemates and these trolls and I'm going 0:13:35.200 --> 0:13:36.280 to say trolls because it's. 0:13:36.120 --> 0:13:37.120 Not nice things they're saying. 0:13:37.240 --> 0:13:39.480 And then that's egging people on, and people are like, 0:13:39.520 --> 0:13:41.000 oh my gosh, the person who I look up to 0:13:41.200 --> 0:13:42.200 is interacting with me. 0:13:42.400 --> 0:13:44.200 I want to keep going because she's talking to me. 0:13:44.360 --> 0:13:45.680 That's what I think is going on there, and I 0:13:45.679 --> 0:13:47.920 think as well, it's not very nice when I actually 0:13:47.960 --> 0:13:49.960 had no bad blood with anybody when the show ended, 0:13:50.000 --> 0:13:52.200 because it's a show. We had an amazing experience that 0:13:52.400 --> 0:13:53.960 only very few people in the world get to do, 0:13:54.480 --> 0:13:57.040 and it's upsetting that there is a bit of like 0:13:57.080 --> 0:13:59.199 a rift now between some of the housemates. 0:13:59.480 --> 0:14:02.840 Well, plant like this if your WhatsApp group that publicly 0:14:02.880 --> 0:14:05.520 has been discussed in the media was the Big Brother 0:14:05.600 --> 0:14:08.520 house who's still left in the competition, Because I've heard 0:14:08.520 --> 0:14:10.120 there's a lot of self evictim going on. 0:14:10.520 --> 0:14:12.600 Yeah, I love that. 0:14:13.440 --> 0:14:16.000 Yeah, look, I actually have to just mute that WhatsApp 0:14:16.080 --> 0:14:20.200 because there's just a lot of noise and I don't 0:14:20.240 --> 0:14:23.960 need to talk every day to people who don't necessarily 0:14:24.000 --> 0:14:24.480 respect me. 0:14:24.560 --> 0:14:25.640 That's what I'm going to say about that. 0:14:25.960 --> 0:14:29.600 Interestingly enough, a housemaid had said to me from this 0:14:29.760 --> 0:14:32.760 series that they were actually really surprised at how much 0:14:32.800 --> 0:14:35.600 discussion there was in the chat leading up into the series, 0:14:35.800 --> 0:14:37.800 and they were like, I did the show and it 0:14:37.840 --> 0:14:39.400 was the time of my life and I had a 0:14:39.400 --> 0:14:41.840 great time. But you know, it's not my everyday life. 0:14:41.880 --> 0:14:44.120 It's not something I'm talking about every day. And they 0:14:44.160 --> 0:14:48.440 found it really stressful to put themselves in that conversation 0:14:48.520 --> 0:14:51.440 every day because it was putting more importance on being 0:14:51.440 --> 0:14:53.160 in Big Brother than it really even needed. 0:14:53.560 --> 0:14:55.440 Yeah, I agree, and I think for me, there was 0:14:55.480 --> 0:14:57.640 a time I just got back from America. Actually I 0:14:57.880 --> 0:14:59.720 had three weeks away in the States because I just 0:15:00.560 --> 0:15:02.760 to get away from it a little bit, because I 0:15:02.800 --> 0:15:06.320 feel like that, yes, there's the experience that I had, 0:15:06.440 --> 0:15:10.400 and then there's what's on TV. And I think I 0:15:10.440 --> 0:15:12.600 had the best time. I came out and I wouldn't. 0:15:12.640 --> 0:15:14.600 I spoke so highly and I still do. I would 0:15:14.640 --> 0:15:18.840 never ever change it. But I think seeing the TV edit, 0:15:18.960 --> 0:15:21.680 I feel a bit like the newbies got jipped. I 0:15:21.720 --> 0:15:25.040 do my personal opinion. I think I wish that there 0:15:25.080 --> 0:15:28.080 was more like Gabby. You and I had an amazing friendship. 0:15:28.360 --> 0:15:31.400 I chose to save Gabby over Brenton, who's in my alliance, 0:15:31.400 --> 0:15:34.400 which is massive, and that's a great storyline, Like that's 0:15:34.600 --> 0:15:36.720 as a female. I chose to keep my female friend 0:15:36.760 --> 0:15:40.080 Gabby over Brenton, but it didn't get shown. But I 0:15:40.080 --> 0:15:42.040 feel like there's a lot of stuff with you know, 0:15:42.440 --> 0:15:44.080 and I love reading, I love Dave, and I'm not 0:15:44.240 --> 0:15:45.720 putting anything on it, but I just think they need 0:15:45.720 --> 0:15:48.680 to be a bit more equal screen time for building 0:15:48.720 --> 0:15:51.240 new characters up and little quirks that I do or 0:15:51.320 --> 0:15:53.760 Johnson do or you know. So the audience was that 0:15:53.800 --> 0:15:56.120 connection a bit more because we've got the gameplay downplay. 0:15:56.160 --> 0:15:58.000 We know that, but just those little quirks that I 0:15:58.040 --> 0:16:00.680 wish the audience saw more so that personas well. 0:16:00.720 --> 0:16:04.240 Even Tim mentioned this with his time on the podcast. 0:16:04.320 --> 0:16:06.680 He was asked who is the funniest person in the 0:16:06.680 --> 0:16:10.720 house and he said you and wow. He said that 0:16:10.800 --> 0:16:14.640 even after the show's like, you know, Lisha's so funny 0:16:15.040 --> 0:16:17.480 and that people didn't see this. But I will take 0:16:17.480 --> 0:16:20.440 you to task on one thing. That is, as you're 0:16:20.480 --> 0:16:23.480