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Speaker 1: strategic newbie from Big Brother twenty twenty two.
Speaker 2: It is Alisha.
Speaker 1: Just when you thought you had a shake and bake
Speaker 1: romance in the Big Brother house, think again. Alisha did
Speaker 1: fall for the handsome and very single housemate Joel, and
Speaker 1: when the feelings weren't exactly reciprocated and her love interest
Speaker 1: got the boot, we saw a self confessed head player
Speaker 1: take on and take out some of the biggest names
Speaker 1: in Big Brother.
Speaker 2: Hit this series, Alisha really.
Speaker 1: Gave the competition her all like it, love it, hate it,
Speaker 1: despise it. I have to say she was one of
Speaker 1: the best players we have seen in the last three years.
Speaker 1: Back in the day Big Brother alumni Sarah Marie one
Speaker 1: over her fans with a bum dance and bird fish
Speaker 1: and chips. Flash forward to now, we didn't see any
Speaker 1: of those gimmicks from Alisha. We did see some burt
Speaker 1: relationships along the way, though. Those who love a ruthless
Speaker 1: game will be with me on the love and support
Speaker 1: of Alicia's ruthless gameplay. We will talk Big Brother edits,
Speaker 1: the problematic what's app group, her female inspirations growing up,
Speaker 1: and some firm answers as I ask her. Gretel Colleen's
Speaker 1: top ten questions from the early iteration of Big Brother,
Speaker 1: which you're really going to want to hear.
Speaker 2: However, let's get started.
Speaker 1: I'd like to welcome Alisha, our latest Big Brother of
Speaker 1: vic D to TV reload.
Speaker 3: To be honest with you, I don't have many strong
Speaker 3: female what is my life?
Speaker 4: We've been through a lot together, haven't we.
Speaker 3: I actually had no bad blood with anybody when the
Speaker 3: show ended this year.
Speaker 4: It's my twenty first birthday.
Speaker 5: Everybody thinks of the main character.
Speaker 4: And I've invited housemates both new and legendary.
Speaker 5: Whoever shoots at you first shoot back.
Speaker 4: Will experience be enough to take on the next generation
Speaker 4: of housemaid face.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't be being true to myself if I didn't
Speaker 3: say people in my life.
Speaker 4: This is big brother.
Speaker 2: Hi Alisha, how are you?
Speaker 5: Hi? Ben Nora? So amazing? How are you?
Speaker 1: I just want to say that you have really surprised
Speaker 1: me this season. You've really earned your place. How did
Speaker 1: your gameplay evolve over the series?
Speaker 3: I think definitely a pivotal point in my game was
Speaker 3: Joel leaving and me coming, you know, being sad and
Speaker 3: being like, oh my gosh, you didn't kiss me to
Speaker 3: this strong woman who was you know, leading the newbies
Speaker 3: and making those decisions on who we're going to keep
Speaker 3: and essentially vote out from the other side.
Speaker 1: But I want to know how did you manage to
Speaker 1: stick to your plans? Because I easily evolve in my
Speaker 1: own world and I changed my mind all the time,
Speaker 1: but you were never really distracted by what you set
Speaker 1: out to do from day one.
Speaker 2: In my mind, yeah.
Speaker 3: I think my plan going in was whoever shoots at
Speaker 3: you first shoot back, and then keep going until you
Speaker 3: kind of get them out. And for me, when a
Speaker 3: Stelle kind of went at the j crew on day
Speaker 3: seventeen Joel Johnson and JC. Yes, it wasn't a direct
Speaker 3: attack on me, but it was my alliance, and for me,
Speaker 3: I knew that, Okay, if someone's making those big moves
Speaker 3: on the other side, that's who I need to go for,
Speaker 3: because they're the leader of the other side, even if
Speaker 3: they're not saying it.
Speaker 1: Did you worry at times that people calling you the
Speaker 1: mob boss and making it out like you were so ruthless,
Speaker 1: you know that you would not necessarily endear yourself to
Speaker 1: the audience on the outside world.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So whenever Dave would say it, I would like,
Speaker 3: here doing it as a joke, like, oh, the mob
Speaker 3: boss over here, the bloody mob boss.
Speaker 5: I would be like, Dave, shut it, We're not doing this.
Speaker 5: Isn't a thing. We're not being this mob boss.
Speaker 3: He's like, it's like you know, you know when someone
Speaker 3: passes away and then the head of the family, the
Speaker 3: male and the female steps up.
Speaker 5: That was you With Joel. I was like, no, we're
Speaker 5: not doing this story. It's not a thing.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I definitely tried to shut it down because
Speaker 3: I didn't want to come across to the other house
Speaker 3: mates like that, but to the public, I mean you
Speaker 3: can flip it. I wanted to be seen as a
Speaker 3: strong woman, and I think I enjoy watching strong female
Speaker 3: leads and I want to be that.
Speaker 5: For you know, the younger people that do watch me.
Speaker 1: Brother, Well, that's a really good question because it came
Speaker 1: across like you must have very strong female role models
Speaker 1: in your life.
Speaker 2: Who has set that tone for you?
Speaker 3: To be honest with you, I don't have many strong
Speaker 3: female role models in my life.
Speaker 5: I am you know.
Speaker 3: I have been raising myself since probably seventeen years old,
Speaker 3: so I've had like a lot of like family.
Speaker 5: Friends, mums who have been role models for.
Speaker 3: Me, or ex partners mums, But I just for me,
Speaker 3: I took it as I didn't have that, and that's
Speaker 3: what I want to kind of be for people who
Speaker 3: like me, if they're sitting at homework TV watching someone
Speaker 3: and they don't have that strong female figure.
Speaker 1: What about people on television? You know growing up over
Speaker 1: the years, were there people on TV that you aspired
Speaker 1: to or not?
Speaker 2: Necessarily? Do we necessarily have.
Speaker 1: To have our role models in our real world? Sometimes
Speaker 1: we can aspire to celebrities characters.
Speaker 5: Like I agree.
Speaker 3: Well, I think one of the reasons why I did
Speaker 3: apply for Your Brother was because there were other people
Speaker 3: on those shows. I think personally, I remember being in
Speaker 3: like grade ten and seeing Tully on TV and everyone
Speaker 3: was giving her shit, sorry my language for you know,
Speaker 3: crying all the time. But I saw it as how
Speaker 3: cool is that that someone's on TV and being upset
Speaker 3: and can own it, like just own it. And you know,
Speaker 3: maybe now she's a bit older, she has learned to
Speaker 3: own it, but I think back then she saw it
Speaker 3: as a negative. But me growing up, I was like, Wow,
Speaker 3: it's okay to cry type thing. And you see people
Speaker 3: even like son your Krugirl, She's bloody amazing. She's killing
Speaker 3: it on our screens for so long. I don't think
Speaker 3: she even gets a recognition as a female that maybe
Speaker 3: some other male presenters do. But yeah, she's a boss
Speaker 3: as well in her own way.
Speaker 1: So very surreal to find yourself. Then in a series
Speaker 1: of Big Brother with Tully, how does it fare watching
Speaker 1: her on television to living with her.
Speaker 3: I think Tully loves hard and she feels hard, and
Speaker 3: I think that's something that I learned as well. I
Speaker 3: think she was really upset when I put my points
Speaker 3: on her own house nooms, even though it was a game.
Speaker 3: And I think my biggest thing was I don't care
Speaker 3: if you guys put your point to me, y' I'll
Speaker 3: be upset, but I can still move on with my
Speaker 3: day and go, okay, put yourself together, let's keep going.
Speaker 3: But I think some people really took it to heart,
Speaker 3: and that was that big difference that we kept hearing
Speaker 3: about head players and heart players, and I think Tully
Speaker 3: was definitely a heart player, and I think she tried
Speaker 3: to be a head player but she just couldn't. She
Speaker 3: couldn't get there in the end. But it was amazing
Speaker 3: living with her because she, like I said, she does
Speaker 3: love hard.
Speaker 1: I felt like you went and hid in that walking
Speaker 1: closet area and then the look on Tully's face where
Speaker 1: she was like did you.
Speaker 5: Fuming that day?
Speaker 3: Because I was a victor, I was put up, she
Speaker 3: was swopped out to be not evicted, and Estelle had
Speaker 3: put me in. So in my head, I was going,
Speaker 3: I went in there just to breathe because I was
Speaker 3: going to punch themone.
Speaker 5: I was like, let me just breathe.
Speaker 3: So I went in there and then I had Then
Speaker 3: she came in and I was like, no, like not now,
Speaker 3: like this is like I will like, you know, you're
Speaker 3: just angry and someone comes in You're like, this is
Speaker 3: the wrong time. Like let me just like feel like
Speaker 3: I've just been nominated with zero point and I will
Speaker 3: probably go home because I'm one of the biggest threats
Speaker 3: in that lineup Withdrew. So I was like, let me
Speaker 3: just breathe for a second. This is about me. It's
Speaker 3: about me right now.
Speaker 1: Well, you handled it really well and then you articulated
Speaker 1: that to her. And I have known Telly for a
Speaker 1: really long time and I know very few people that
Speaker 1: are willing to stand up to her.
Speaker 2: And it was good television, I know, I.
Speaker 5: Think as well.
Speaker 3: After I did it, like I was like, this could
Speaker 3: come back fin me because I was like, she's gonna
Speaker 3: go straight to the diar room and just talk smack
Speaker 3: to the brother about me. But she kind of was
Speaker 3: like she think she came to a few people said
Speaker 3: to her, Telly, it's about Alisha. She's been nominated. Just
Speaker 3: chill for a second. She will talk to you about
Speaker 3: why she nominated you. At the end of the day.
Speaker 3: Every time I was in the chair, Hully had put
Speaker 3: points on me like it's a fact she voted for
Speaker 3: me against Trevor.
Speaker 5: She voted to keep Gabby over me.
Speaker 3: Like, there was just a few times where I was like, well,
Speaker 3: if I'm getting points put on me, then why can't
Speaker 3: it go the other way?
Speaker 5: That was kind of my thing.
Speaker 1: Can we talk about going to Big Brother and telling
Speaker 1: on the other housemates? It did become a thing with
Speaker 1: Tim and Estelle where Estelle said I'm going to go
Speaker 1: and have a chat with Big Brother and Tim went,
Speaker 1: I'll go and go.
Speaker 2: Tell on us or whatever. I was laughing. Is that
Speaker 2: really how it is? Do you think in Big Brother?
Speaker 1: Do you think a lot of housemates do go in
Speaker 1: to sort of go and tell on the others And
Speaker 1: does Big Brother even play into that.
Speaker 3: Look, I would never go and tell on someone like.
Speaker 3: I would never go and jump into Big Brother like
Speaker 3: I would go on an event. I used him as
Speaker 3: like my SYC. I was like, perfect, get me in
Speaker 3: free SYCH session, not one hundred bucks an hour, it's
Speaker 3: free perfect, And Big Brother would he would reply, he
Speaker 3: was like, really he was a great listener. But I
Speaker 3: would never go and tell on something that another housemate did.
Speaker 3: But I think that just shows the different type of
Speaker 3: people in the house.
Speaker 1: I'm only this because that happened in my series for
Speaker 1: the entire series was some particular housemates were going in
Speaker 1: there and telling and telling on me, and then I'd
Speaker 1: have to go in and Big Brother would sort of
Speaker 1: try and unpack it with me, and I was like,
Speaker 1: are you my dad?
Speaker 2: Are you my dad?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Exactly, And when we're not children here, it's a game.
Speaker 3: It's any fun, lighthearted. I don't think anybody is necessarily
Speaker 3: mean on the show. I don't think there's any bullying
Speaker 3: or nastiness. I think that we're all a unique bunch
Speaker 3: of humans. To get put into a house together, there's
Speaker 3: going to be complete. But it's about, you know, being
Speaker 3: an adult. That's why people over the edge of eighteen
Speaker 3: can apply only and go okay, let's how are we
Speaker 3: going to work through this?
Speaker 1: It is interesting though, because Estelle plays real world as
Speaker 1: she does Big Brother, and then talking to some of
Speaker 1: the housemates after the show, it's really confusing for her
Speaker 1: in a way because justice, in her mind, should serve
Speaker 1: itself the same way.
Speaker 2: However, the game of Big Brother now.
Speaker 1: Has evolved and correct it is sort of halfway between
Speaker 1: sort of Big Brother and Survivor, and Survivor is rewarding
Speaker 1: people for good resumes, bold moves and all of this
Speaker 1: stuff that in the real world, it could be in
Speaker 1: real trouble if you if you did one.
Speaker 3: Hundred percent, And I definitely voiced that so many times
Speaker 3: in the eviction room, like I feel like I said, guys,
Speaker 3: and I feel like I was a broken record. I
Speaker 3: was like, if I have one of those dolls where
Speaker 3: you pull the string, this is what I'd say. It's
Speaker 3: a game, guys, let's play. It's a game. So I'm
Speaker 3: just like, I have no like when a Stelle put
Speaker 3: me up and didn't get shown, but I said to her,
Speaker 3: a Stelle because I needed five minutes to breathe, like
Speaker 3: I said, But I actually went up to her later
Speaker 3: and said, I get it. It was a great move,
Speaker 3: and as a head player, I actually respect it. But
Speaker 3: the thing that annoyed me, and hence why you saw
Speaker 3: the annoyance which everyone was like, oh why is the
Speaker 3: leash getting annoyed?
Speaker 5: Which she liked, you know, to play big moves.
Speaker 3: It's because I get frustrated when people say they're heart
Speaker 3: players and they just made a massive move.
Speaker 5: It's like, own the move.
Speaker 3: It was.
Speaker 5: It was a great head move, so own it. As
Speaker 5: a head move. Don't come to me.
Speaker 3: And say, oh, leash like that was with my heart,
Speaker 3: because it's like, well, hang on a minute, you've got
Speaker 3: girl Boss tattooed on your arm or girl Gang or
Speaker 3: whatever it is. It's like, well, you just put a
Speaker 3: chick up when there was a lot of other blokes
Speaker 3: you could have put up. So don't say you want
Speaker 3: a girl to be in the final when you're putting
Speaker 3: me in the nomination chairs.
Speaker 1: Honestly, you are so iconic in my mind when it
Speaker 1: comes to this series because it is a brutal game.
Speaker 1: My only question that I felt for the newbies and
Speaker 1: it's indigative. So many newbies have made it to the end.
Speaker 1: Are some of the newbies forgetting though about this public vote?
Speaker 1: Do you think Australia would have rewarded you, say, with
Speaker 1: the top prize if you'd made it to the end?
Speaker 3: Look, I personally think the newbies didn't realize how gypped
Speaker 3: we were going to be until the season came to air,
Speaker 3: because I think when we found out it was OG's
Speaker 3: first newbies, we were all so excited as we should be,
Speaker 3: like we're all on the game of Big Brother because
Speaker 3: we love Big Brother, so we were I think, like
Speaker 3: really excited, and we're voting these people out like we
Speaker 3: wouldn't a normal season if there was just you know,
Speaker 3: twenty two newbies. But seeing the episodes come to light
Speaker 3: and seeing the newbies we put on the back foot,
Speaker 3: I think now I maybe would have played my game differently,
Speaker 3: which is sad because people are saying, you know, you
Speaker 3: know Queen Reggie, and we love Farma Dave, and we
Speaker 3: love Estelle and we love you know, all of these
Speaker 3: tim and all these people, and it's like, oh, well,
Speaker 3: if I knew that from the start, then my game
Speaker 3: would have just been stuck.
Speaker 5: Up to the Ogs.
Speaker 3: But that's not how Alicia authentically wanted to play. So
Speaker 3: that's why now I'm a bit like, oh, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I think a lot of us newbies are just a
Speaker 3: bit like upset with the public that they're so OG obsessed.
Speaker 5: At the end of the day, the Ogs were newbies
Speaker 5: once as well.
Speaker 2: Can I run something past you? Though?
Speaker 1: There is a lot of thought about this and about
Speaker 1: the OG's having a lot of support on the outside.
Speaker 1: Now those people have been interacting with a fan base
Speaker 1: and the media and noisy people who use platforms that
Speaker 1: maybe your newbie fan base aren't necessarily using now. I
Speaker 1: don't know about you are, but if you were following
Speaker 1: Big Brother, would you be using the old forums, the
Speaker 1: old Twitter or Facebook and things to generate your popularity.
Speaker 1: I don't think so. And so I think that there
Speaker 1: is a really big misunderstanding about how many people are
Speaker 1: loving you Johnson to Ras Brenton, like there's just there
Speaker 1: is a lot of love in the world for the
Speaker 1: lot of you.
Speaker 2: So I wouldn't I know.
Speaker 3: And I think as well, I think it's unfair personally
Speaker 3: because I think I mean I at the start of
Speaker 3: the season, the first half of the season, and I
Speaker 3: still haven't but I haven't like ever egged on anyone
Speaker 3: talking smack about anybody else.
Speaker 5: I've always just seen the comments and been like, that's
Speaker 5: not nice. None deserves that.
Speaker 3: But I feel like other housemates are now connecting with
Speaker 3: these people who have these views that might say, yeah,
Speaker 3: why did Alisha do this X y Z or yeah,
Speaker 3: how could Alisha do that to you? And then there's
Speaker 3: interaction with the housemates and these trolls and I'm going
Speaker 3: to say trolls because it's.
Speaker 5: Not nice things they're saying.
Speaker 3: And then that's egging people on, and people are like,
Speaker 3: oh my gosh, the person who I look up to
Speaker 3: is interacting with me.
Speaker 5: I want to keep going because she's talking to me.
Speaker 3: That's what I think is going on there, and I
Speaker 3: think as well, it's not very nice when I actually
Speaker 3: had no bad blood with anybody when the show ended,
Speaker 3: because it's a show. We had an amazing experience that
Speaker 3: only very few people in the world get to do,
Speaker 3: and it's upsetting that there is a bit of like
Speaker 3: a rift now between some of the housemates.
Speaker 1: Well, plant like this if your WhatsApp group that publicly
Speaker 1: has been discussed in the media was the Big Brother
Speaker 1: house who's still left in the competition, Because I've heard
Speaker 1: there's a lot of self evictim going on.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I love that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, look, I actually have to just mute that WhatsApp
Speaker 3: because there's just a lot of noise and I don't
Speaker 3: need to talk every day to people who don't necessarily
Speaker 3: respect me.
Speaker 5: That's what I'm going to say about that.
Speaker 1: Interestingly enough, a housemaid had said to me from this
Speaker 1: series that they were actually really surprised at how much
Speaker 1: discussion there was in the chat leading up into the series,
Speaker 1: and they were like, I did the show and it
Speaker 1: was the time of my life and I had a
Speaker 1: great time. But you know, it's not my everyday life.
Speaker 1: It's not something I'm talking about every day. And they
Speaker 1: found it really stressful to put themselves in that conversation
Speaker 1: every day because it was putting more importance on being
Speaker 1: in Big Brother than it really even needed.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, and I think for me, there was
Speaker 3: a time I just got back from America. Actually I
Speaker 3: had three weeks away in the States because I just
Speaker 3: to get away from it a little bit, because I
Speaker 3: feel like that, yes, there's the experience that I had,
Speaker 3: and then there's what's on TV. And I think I
Speaker 3: had the best time. I came out and I wouldn't.
Speaker 3: I spoke so highly and I still do. I would
Speaker 3: never ever change it. But I think seeing the TV edit,
Speaker 3: I feel a bit like the newbies got jipped. I
Speaker 3: do my personal opinion. I think I wish that there
Speaker 3: was more like Gabby. You and I had an amazing friendship.
Speaker 3: I chose to save Gabby over Brenton, who's in my alliance,
Speaker 3: which is massive, and that's a great storyline, Like that's
Speaker 3: as a female. I chose to keep my female friend
Speaker 3: Gabby over Brenton, but it didn't get shown. But I
Speaker 3: feel like there's a lot of stuff with you know,
Speaker 3: and I love reading, I love Dave, and I'm not
Speaker 3: putting anything on it, but I just think they need
Speaker 3: to be a bit more equal screen time for building
Speaker 3: new characters up and little quirks that I do or
Speaker 3: Johnson do or you know. So the audience was that
Speaker 3: connection a bit more because we've got the gameplay downplay.
Speaker 3: We know that, but just those little quirks that I
Speaker 3: wish the audience saw more so that personas well.
Speaker 1: Even Tim mentioned this with his time on the podcast.
Speaker 1: He was asked who is the funniest person in the
Speaker 1: house and he said you and wow. He said that
Speaker 1: even after the show's like, you know, Lisha's so funny
Speaker 1: and that people didn't see this. But I will take
Speaker 1: you to task on one thing. That is, as you're
Speaker 1: saying that we didn't see all the quirks, the Austraie
Speaker 1: audience aren't stupid, and we do walk away with a
Speaker 1: real impression. I knew you were friends with Gabby.
Speaker 2: I didn't necessarily need to make daisy chains every day.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 1: Yes, reality TV and an editor is a difficult conversation
Speaker 1: to have because we have our own version, and your
Speaker 1: version of Big Brother was through your eyes. So that's
Speaker 1: one version of Big Brother. You have got all of
Speaker 1: these housemates with that version. How is it ever going
Speaker 1: to be possible to tell everyone's version of Big Brother?
Speaker 2: It's not.
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, you're right one hundred percent.
Speaker 3: And I think that's something that Look, everybody thinks of
Speaker 3: the main character, do you know what I mean? Like
Speaker 3: when you come out, you go, oh my gosh, like
Speaker 3: I had this moment that was part of me, so
Speaker 3: funny when that happened, and that happened, and I think
Speaker 3: like even like I look at poor JC. He last
Speaker 3: until day fifty and he didn't get near as much
Speaker 3: time for the duration that he was in the house.
Speaker 3: And that's and that's the same thing. You can't put
Speaker 3: everybody in as.
Speaker 5: A main character.
Speaker 3: You can't show everyone's story, Milo, Dog's are psycho.
Speaker 2: Sorry down Milo.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you a really strange fact. The Real Housewives
Speaker 1: franchise producers tell all of the women that they are
Speaker 1: the main character, and that is to create conflict in
Speaker 1: a show.
Speaker 2: I think in some.
Speaker 1: Ways, Big Brother even leads everyone into believing it's their
Speaker 1: story and one there is the big disconnect with the
Speaker 1: final edit, I believe, And it's a great tactic overall
Speaker 1: for us as an audience because you guys go mad
Speaker 1: for this stuff.
Speaker 3: I know, and I think as well, Like especially because
Speaker 3: as we said before, this show is Survivor base and
Speaker 3: the resume building.
Speaker 5: That's that's what I know.
Speaker 3: Play off anyway, Like I was like, cool, go in there,
Speaker 3: get rid of you know, Dave, get rid of Jewels,
Speaker 3: get rid of Tully. Like when I came back from
Speaker 3: the main frame, Drew and I that was our hit
Speaker 3: list and a Stelle. That was our four people we.
Speaker 5: Wanted to go on. We got three in a row.
Speaker 3: The first one is gone boom and then you know,
Speaker 3: I thought, well I can't really trust druids, and I
Speaker 3: got rid of him and I was like perfect, Like
Speaker 3: but you know, you don't think how they're public are
Speaker 3: going to perceive because you're just so you got your
Speaker 3: blinkers on playing the game.
Speaker 1: It was really hard to watch you get your heart
Speaker 1: broken with Joel. Great television. Let me tell you, I
Speaker 1: love it nothing more than an authentic cry on TV
Speaker 1: because that makes us as an audience still seen We've
Speaker 1: all had our hearts broken, so you know it's it
Speaker 1: does make great television. But are you sad that it
Speaker 1: didn't work out or do you kind of feel like
Speaker 1: you might have dodged a bullet.
Speaker 3: I think I dodged a bullet. I think, like I'm
Speaker 3: very honest. I think I look Joel leaving. I was
Speaker 3: looking through rose colored glasses like I was like not
Speaker 3: playing the game. I was flirting with Joel, making food
Speaker 3: with Joel had a great shield like whenever he'd win
Speaker 3: the challenges.
Speaker 5: I wasn't up amazing. But that's if Joel lasted to the.
Speaker 3: End, and that's how I played on very disappointed, and
Speaker 3: I probably would have regretted my experience, to be totally
Speaker 3: honest with you, when he left, I don't know what happened.
Speaker 3: I just turned into this animal and decided to go
Speaker 3: on a killing spree getting rid of everybody.
Speaker 2: I can understand that I went.
Speaker 1: I went on a night out with him a few
Speaker 1: months ago, and I don't think he's the sort of
Speaker 1: person that's going to listen to everyone's podcast episode. So
Speaker 1: I probably can get away with this with saying this.
Speaker 1: And my partner doesn't listen to the podcast either. You know,
Speaker 1: so I can also say this, but I remember just
Speaker 1: you know, I just remember thinking and at that stage
Speaker 1: that I went out with him, the first episode had
Speaker 1: just played that night, but I'd seen like eight episodes,
Speaker 1: and so I was on board with the storyline, and
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm Alisia, I'm in love with him.
Speaker 1: I'm in love Patrol. And he's beautiful.
Speaker 5: You know, he is beautiful. He is He's a lovely person.
Speaker 5: Mctually see him tonight.
Speaker 3: Actually we're going for a concert, not together, not together,
Speaker 3: we're going do we're going to the same concert.
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm not worried of that. I'm like, what, don't
Speaker 1: tell him what I've told you is so embarrassed.
Speaker 5: Oh, I will not tell him. Look, I'm off a
Speaker 5: few boccer on bulls maybe, but I will not tell you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, Actually I don't necessarily do you know.
Speaker 1: What I've also found is he puts up all these
Speaker 1: first trap photos now that he's single, and I find
Speaker 1: that I write to them and I'm not his demographics,
Speaker 1: but I wrote back to the one that you put
Speaker 1: up one last night of him with no top on,
Speaker 1: and the attracts it pants and he's like the lighting
Speaker 1: in this new bedroom is amazing, and I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: the lighting in my house is obviously broken because I
Speaker 1: don't look anything like that.
Speaker 5: Well lighting, tell me talking about globes she used in jail,
Speaker 5: because I'll go to beacon.
Speaker 2: Lighting right now, and I don't think about lighting. I
Speaker 2: think it's because you've got abs in your shredded.
Speaker 3: I think that's I don't even think I looked a
Speaker 3: Joel's face once. I'm not joking you. I think in
Speaker 3: the house like I was just purpose like like like
Speaker 3: this the whole time, Like I don't even know what
Speaker 3: he looks like.
Speaker 1: I think it's important to ask you who has changed
Speaker 1: the most because we kind of side stepped it, But
Speaker 1: I think it's relevant. You've had this amazing experience. You
Speaker 1: thought it was a certain way you have these friendships,
Speaker 1: but you know what has been the most challenging evolution
Speaker 1: leaving the competition? You know, who are you not speaking to?
Speaker 5: Who am I not speaking to? Straight out?
Speaker 3: Look for me, I'm definitely closer with certain people, Like
Speaker 3: I'm really close with Johnson, I'm really close with Tim,
Speaker 3: and I'm really close with Tras. I see them at
Speaker 3: least twice a week. But there's people who you're just
Speaker 3: going to drift away from naturally, and obviously for me,
Speaker 3: I just think there's obviously people who just don't have
Speaker 3: the same not values. But like I think, look, I
Speaker 3: don't I don't talk. Look, I just don't reply in
Speaker 3: the group chat to a lot of people. There's a
Speaker 3: lot of people, but I'm very I will still say
Speaker 3: hello everybody. I'm very easy going. I will never ever
Speaker 3: start drama where I don't have to not waste my
Speaker 3: breath on that. But without saying too much, there's definitely
Speaker 3: people who I don't talk to that.
Speaker 2: We don't need to name and shag them anyway.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a it is a fairly I guess
Speaker 1: it's a top's a question to ask in a little unfair,
Speaker 1: but you know, as an audience, you kind of want
Speaker 1: to know this stuff, so it's I don't to remiss
Speaker 1: me not to ask. You know, Tarass has really become
Speaker 1: the biggest player this year in lots of ways. Do
Speaker 1: you think that he deserves to win?
Speaker 5: I do think that he deserves to win.
Speaker 3: I think for me a game player, I wouldn't be
Speaker 3: being true to myself if I didn't say people in
Speaker 3: my life, so who's left is Brenton, Tarras, Johnson, and Reggie.
Speaker 5: And I love Reggie. I love her with all my heart.
Speaker 3: I think it's like a miss you know, communication and
Speaker 3: there where like people think that's Ohgie's first newbies and
Speaker 3: oh my gosh, Alicia hates Reggie because she voted her out.
Speaker 5: Like no, I love Reggie.
Speaker 3: But for me, I would be sticking true to myself
Speaker 3: if I said I didn't want one a newbie to win,
Speaker 3: because I'm literally die hard newby and two a game player.
Speaker 3: So for me, it's Johnson, Brenton or Tarrass Personally.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean that's and it's fair and not fair enough.
Speaker 1: And I mean even throughout this chat, we can see
Speaker 1: the reasons why you would be pushed into You're not
Speaker 1: just alliance, but you know your category being that your
Speaker 1: category is newbies. If we do roll into another series
Speaker 1: of Big Brother and after your experience, is there anything
Speaker 1: about the game that you'd like to see change? Is
Speaker 1: there anything that you think Big Brother could evolve with
Speaker 1: in a way that will make it better.
Speaker 3: I love the game place out of it really, it's
Speaker 3: really fun and it was so addicting. But I think
Speaker 3: as an audience member, I would like to see more
Speaker 3: character development. I think I love reality TV shows like
Speaker 3: I love Rowhousewives, you.
Speaker 5: Know, I love it all. And I think I like
Speaker 5: feeling like, oh my gosh, she does that. I do
Speaker 5: that as well.
Speaker 3: He does that. Oh my gosh, We're so similar. Like
Speaker 3: that's how you connect with the character and you feel
Speaker 3: like you guys are the same.
Speaker 5: So I just feel like.
Speaker 3: A little bit more character quirks throughout the show would
Speaker 3: be nice.
Speaker 2: And Big Brother Well, as.
Speaker 1: I said, I'm obsessed with you, but I'm going to
Speaker 1: ask you to celebrate twenty one years of Big Brother
Speaker 1: in this country. I'm asking everyone top ten questions. These
Speaker 1: are rapid fire question so feel free to plow rhythm.
Speaker 1: What did you miss the most while you're inside the
Speaker 1: Big Brother House? Who is your favorite person?
Speaker 5: Johnson?
Speaker 1: Who was your least favorite person? Who had the most
Speaker 1: annoying habit?
Speaker 5: Trevor snoring and farting?
Speaker 1: Yeah and farting, burping, farting, snoring, great, Okay, he's a trumpet?
Speaker 1: Who was the funniest person in the house? Kim who
Speaker 1: was the laziest person in the house? Gabby, what was
Speaker 1: your greatest or what is your greatest regret.
Speaker 5: Letting trust put me out for nomination thinking I'm safe.
Speaker 1: Who will be next out? Not what you know, but
Speaker 1: who do you think is going to come out after you?
Speaker 1: Before the finale? Tarras And the big question is who
Speaker 1: will win Big Brother twenty twenty two ah rgie. And
Speaker 1: the last question is something I ask everyone that joins
Speaker 1: the podcast, whether it's Big Brother or not, what is
Speaker 1: something from behind the scenes of this season of Big
Speaker 1: Brother something the audience didn't see that we won't see
Speaker 1: that is kind of a behind the scenes secret.
Speaker 3: Oh well, when Tim's partner came in over the crate,
Speaker 3: he gave him some Venegeri's ice cream, which we saw.
Speaker 5: Truss and I one day were in the kitchen starving.
Speaker 3: We were on Russians and we were like, no one
Speaker 3: had to cracked his ice scream yet, And Trus and
Speaker 3: I said, let's sneak the ice cream and back and
Speaker 3: eat it and put it back in the fridge and
Speaker 3: make sure that no one knows us and blame on
Speaker 3: someone else. So we did, went outside, we scooped in
Speaker 3: our mouth. It was a massive thing. We put it
Speaker 3: back in the fridge.
Speaker 5: We had a whole cult. Who did it?
Speaker 3: Who did it? Like, we had to go to the diary.
Speaker 3: We Brother interviewed us one at a time who took
Speaker 3: the ice cream? Estelle got flower and was doing fingerprints,
Speaker 3: say who took the ice cream? And then it came
Speaker 3: out in Burgers and Bombshells, which we didn't see the videos.
Speaker 5: Big Brother played it on the screen that trust I
Speaker 5: actually at the ice scream when everyone was like, you
Speaker 5: were kidding me. So that's a bit of an art
Speaker 5: scream game.
Speaker 2: It is the who Ber the haird Rollers all over again.
Speaker 1: I think you did such a fantastic job, and I
Speaker 1: think because you are so in the zeitgeist now a
Speaker 1: Big Brother as one of the best head players, that
Speaker 1: if we are going to see people being in a
Speaker 1: series like this again where we will get to bring
Speaker 1: people back, you would be on the top of Big
Speaker 1: Brother's list.
Speaker 2: And I think that's quite an achievement.
Speaker 5: So thank you, Thank you so much,