1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:03,160 Speaker 1: Joining us on the line right now. Real Estate Institute 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 1: of the Northern Territory CEO Quentin Killian, Good morning to you, Quentin, 3 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 1: Morning Katie. Sorry for our tardiness this morning. Quentin, running 4 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 1: a little bit late mate. Talk us through the latest 5 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 1: You've released the June twenty twenty one quarter data, and 6 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:23,600 Speaker 1: it's big news for the property market, certainly for those 7 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 1: if you're already a home or unit owner. 8 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 2: Well look, it's finally starting to show some signs of recovery. 9 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 2: It's been a long time coming. We've probably suffered through 10 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 2: the best part of five to six years of a 11 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 2: market downturn and we stare it start to turn around 12 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 2: from about June last year, but really pick up in 13 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 2: March quarter. This quarter, however, we've actually seen quite a 14 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 2: substantial jump both in sales volume and in the median price. 15 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 2: So we saw almost around about an eighty percent jump 16 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 2: in a sales volume in the houses and in the 17 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 2: unit market is where we saw the real movement. It 18 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 2: was the median price lifted about twenty point two percent 19 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 2: for this quarter, which is fabulous news. It basically means 20 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 2: that there's a lot more sales and the higher end 21 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 2: of the market and the more expensive end of the 22 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 2: market than under the three point fifty bracket. 23 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:26,680 Speaker 1: Quentin, are we back at those sort of pre impecs 24 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 1: dollars or still not quite there yet? 25 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 2: No, we're We're still about twenty percent below the impax heights. 26 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 2: We are certainly showing healthy signs of recovery. But the 27 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 2: big thing for me is that this market growth is 28 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 2: driven by what I class is organic growth, So it's 29 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 2: more driven by demand from people moving here or investors 30 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 2: that are looking at this market, rather than by a 31 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 2: project imperative, which was essentially to house a lot of 32 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 2: people for a short period or for a defined period 33 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 2: of time. So I'm hopeful, very hopeful that this growth 34 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:11,079 Speaker 2: is longer term, more sustainable growth for the marketplace. 35 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, that would be a good thing, Quentin. Who are 36 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 1: we seeing by most of our units to begin. 37 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:22,080 Speaker 2: With, Look, it's a mixture. The good thing is that 38 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 2: we're actually seeing interstate investors coming back into the market. 39 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 2: They've been absent from our market for a long time 40 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:33,080 Speaker 2: for a number of reasons. But one of the big 41 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 2: things with our marketplace is that we still have the 42 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 2: highest rental yields of any capital city in Australia. Sitting 43 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:42,959 Speaker 2: at around five to five and a half percent, and 44 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 2: that compares to say two to three percent in Sydney 45 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 2: and Melbourne markets. So for inter state investors, this is 46 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 2: still a primary market where they can get good returns 47 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 2: on their investment into the rental market and with rents 48 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 2: being the rental market thing very very tight, so we're 49 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 2: down around about one point three percent, which is extremely tight, 50 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:08,360 Speaker 2: so they're pretty much guaranteed of good rental returns and 51 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 2: tendencies going forward. 52 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 1: And Quentin, those interstate investors are they people wanting to flee, 53 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 1: you know, locations like the New South Wales and Melbourne 54 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:21,119 Speaker 1: obviously where we've seen lockdowns recently. 55 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 2: Look, Anikdotley, I couldn't support this with hard and fast, 56 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 2: harded But Annik Dodley, what I am hearing is that 57 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 2: there is a good mixture of investors who are just 58 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 2: looking for good investments, but also people that not just 59 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 2: people who are looking to get out of Melbourne or 60 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 2: Sydney because they're sick of the lockdowns, but also Territorians 61 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 2: who had moved south set up home and are now 62 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 2: wishing to move back to Darwin. And one of the 63 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 2: trends that is emerging that I've heard a number of 64 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 2: times is previously we would see mom and dad go 65 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 2: down to the kids as grandma and grandpa. What's happening? 66 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 2: In many cases, mom and dad have decided to stay 67 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 2: in Darwin and the kids are returning to them. 68 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, right, well that's a good thing. Hopefully we see 69 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 1: a bit of a boost to our population as well. Quentin, 70 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 1: how about how are things obviously, you know the figures 71 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 1: that you've just given me, then I'm assuming of the 72 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:17,480 Speaker 1: Greater Darwin region, But how are things out in Palmerston, 73 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 1: which we know is a location where a lot of 74 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 1: our first time buyers generally go, you know, to get 75 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 1: their first time yep. 76 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:28,040 Speaker 2: Well, look, Palmerston had a nice kick in this quarter. 77 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 2: Its sales volumes jumped about thirty six percent, but when 78 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 2: you compare that to this time last year, that's ninety 79 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 2: eight point seven percent higher and sales volume, so it's 80 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 2: double what we were selling at the same time last year. 81 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 2: And the median price is starting to kick up as well. 82 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 2: It moved up not as substantial as Great Darwin, but 83 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 2: three point six percent increase, and the unit sales are 84 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 2: also on the move out there as well. With the marketplace, 85 00:04:56,440 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 2: the medium drifted down slightly, sales are still ticking along 86 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 2: very nicely, about thirty percent higher than what they were 87 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 2: last year, and we're sort of seeing similar activity in 88 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 2: Alice Springs as well. The Alice Springs market was one 89 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:16,719 Speaker 2: hundred and twelve percent more than this time last year 90 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:21,480 Speaker 2: in house sales. So yes, look, it's a healthy market. 91 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:25,279 Speaker 2: The only real concern for us, Katie, is that what 92 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 2: we are seeing now. We won't see this substantive data 93 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 2: until the September quarter, but we are seeing anecdotal evidence 94 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 2: already that the first home buyer market is drying up, 95 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:39,799 Speaker 2: and that's largely because the incentives have been taken away 96 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 2: from the marketplace, and it's now costing first home buyers 97 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 2: the best part of thirty odd thousand dollars extra to 98 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 2: get into their property because they don't have that stampedity 99 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 2: concession anymore. 100 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:53,720 Speaker 1: Right, So really, again, again, that is something that you're 101 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 1: pretty concerned about, oh very much. 102 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 2: So, Look, we think it was a very ill advised 103 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 2: decision to remove that, and we call on the chief 104 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 2: of the Slash Treasurer to review that decision and bring 105 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 2: back first home buyer and said it was as quickly 106 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:14,039 Speaker 2: as possible. 107 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 1: Quentin Killian, we are going to have to leave it there. 108 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:18,840 Speaker 1: Always appreciate your time. Thank you very much for having 109 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 1: a chat with us today. 110 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 2: Always happy to come on, Katie, thank you. 111 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:26,119 Speaker 1: That's Quentin Killian there. The see of the Real Estate 112 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 1: Institute of the Northern Territory.