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Speaker 2: The Taylor Swift's new album has dropped and everyone's going crazy.

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Speaker 1: As you said, sixty five and a half million views

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Speaker 1: on Spotify. It's only been out for a couple of days.

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Speaker 1: What are the well, the haters are going to hate,

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Speaker 1: as we know, and people are looking for all the

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Speaker 1: disc tracks, all the information that's secreted in the songs. Okay,

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Speaker 1: but the songs that we love and the songs we

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Speaker 1: don't love so much. We thought we'd cross to our

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Speaker 1: entertainment reporter stateside Cooper Lawrence, who's a Swifty herself.

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Speaker 3: Hi Cooper, Hi, good morning, yes, big time, good afternoon.

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Speaker 3: And there what time it is there? I know what

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Speaker 3: time is here?

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Speaker 2: Morning time here? And I think so too early for

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Speaker 2: the word secrete. I'll tell you that.

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Speaker 3: Sorry about that.

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Speaker 1: So give us an overview, Cooper, of the album and

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Speaker 1: what people are saying in general.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's funny because the Swifties, of course love it.

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Speaker 3: They've been weird for this. The hype has been going

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Speaker 3: on for so long. But it's interesting all the hate

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Speaker 3: that Taylor Swift is getting, and I need to make

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Speaker 3: a statement about it because as a as a Swifty myself,

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Speaker 3: it kind of bothers me because the concept, first of all,

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Speaker 3: Taylor Swift is more than just her music. You know,

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Speaker 3: the concept of being a Swiftie means you're part of

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Speaker 3: a community. You have all these kids all over the

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Speaker 3: country who like they have a lot of friends, or

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Speaker 3: they feel lonely, or they just feel like out of place.

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Speaker 3: She has given them a community, so that's really important.

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Speaker 3: And then you're talking about a woman who is one

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Speaker 3: of the most charitable celebrities, like of all time. You know,

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Speaker 3: we had this huge hurricane here too in a row

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Speaker 3: Helene and then Milton. She gave ten million dollars to

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Speaker 3: those people. Then we had the La fires. She gave

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Speaker 3: ten million dollars to those people. And she's been very

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Speaker 3: generous with everyone who works around her. She pays them well,

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Speaker 3: she gives them like great health insurance and every year

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Speaker 3: gives them life changing bonuses. So she's more than just

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Speaker 3: her music. She's really like set out this community of positivity.

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Speaker 3: So Okay, if you hate her, maybe you don't like

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Speaker 3: her music, and just say that, you know, because she's

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Speaker 3: not somebody to be hated. She's somebody who's actually kind

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Speaker 3: of aspirational.

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Speaker 2: Well for her, I don't see why.

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Speaker 1: But when it comes but when it comes to the music,

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Speaker 1: there is some and I'm just repeating what I've seen

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Speaker 1: written is people saying that the music, and maybe it's

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Speaker 1: now that she's in love, doesn't have the big isn't

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Speaker 1: as catchy, doesn't Well, there's still some distracks and things

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Speaker 1: like that, but the music isn't as satisfying. Maybe right.

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Speaker 3: I think a lot of her fans were kind of hoping,

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Speaker 3: and I have to say, we have to take Travis

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Speaker 3: Kelce off all marketing from here on end, because he

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Speaker 3: was the one that said that's gonna be lots of bangers.

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Speaker 3: So we were expecting like shake it Off too, or

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Speaker 3: something that was really like a dance track and her music.

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Speaker 3: It's a great album, but it's definitely not I wouldn't

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Speaker 3: characterize these songs as bangers necessarily, but they're fun songs

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Speaker 3: and they're very it's our same honest open. You know,

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Speaker 3: people don't like the song would because that song is

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Speaker 3: very personal. It seems very uncomfortable for people because it

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Speaker 3: seems to be about something very personal about Travis Kelsey,

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Speaker 3: a certain body part.

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Speaker 1: Well, here's some of the lyrics. It says, forgive me,

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Speaker 1: it sounds cocky. He had dicmatized me and opened my

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Speaker 1: eyes Redwood Tree, it ain't hard to see his love

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Speaker 1: was the key that opened my thone.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, let's have a listen to some wood.

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Speaker 2: Did you say redwood tree?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean I don't want to know that about him,

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Speaker 3: do you.

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Speaker 1: Well? That is the thing too, is that talk about

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Speaker 1: opening her thighs, et cetera. Her young fans might find

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Speaker 3: I think that's one of the big issues Amanda. That's

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Speaker 3: exactly it, because she has always been very you know,

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Speaker 3: all ages friendly for everybody, and this is a very

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Speaker 3: really not on her brand. So I think, you know,

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Speaker 3: the moms who are saying to their kids, like the

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Speaker 3: you know, the thirty something year old swifties who are

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Speaker 3: saying to their five year olds, hey, let's listen to whoops,

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Speaker 3: not this song. Let's not listen to this song, kiddo, Like,

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Speaker 2: One because I look at her I don't see her

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Speaker 3: Like I write, I think that's the other issue. That's

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Speaker 3: the exact other issue, is that people don't look She's

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Speaker 3: never been a Christina Guilera. She's never come out like,

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Speaker 3: you know, hot, like look at my body. She's always

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Speaker 3: been very like, here's a sweet love song about heartbreak.

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Speaker 3: So for her to be so provocative all of a

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Speaker 1: And what about some of these songs. Isn't there one

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Speaker 1: that's about Charlie XCX.

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Speaker 3: So this one's really interesting. I don't know if you

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Speaker 3: know this whole story behind it, but in a nutshell,

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Speaker 3: Charlie XCX basically drew first blood. She went after Taylor

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Speaker 3: Swift first because she is now married to but at

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Speaker 3: the time she was dating the drummer of the Night

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Speaker 3: teen seventy five, while Taylor Swift was dating Matt Heeley,

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Speaker 3: the lead singer for like five minutes. And for some reason,

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Speaker 3: every time Taylor Swift went backstage, Charlie XCX was put

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Speaker 3: off by her and said really negative things about her

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Speaker 3: to other people that got back to Taylor because it's

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Speaker 3: Taylor Swift. And then she wrote a disc song about

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Speaker 3: Taylor Swift saying really negative things about her, saying that

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Speaker 3: she's happy that Matt Heally ghosted her. So this was

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Speaker 3: Taylor Swift's response to that. Because Taylor took her on

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Speaker 3: her tour with her, she was trying to help her.

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Speaker 3: She was trying to empower Charlie XCX. And the very

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Speaker 3: first thing Charlie XIX did during an interview was saying, Oh,

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Speaker 3: it was like I was sitting there waving to five

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Speaker 3: year olds. You were on tour with Taylor Swift, this

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Speaker 3: all ages show. Maybe don't bite the hand. So I

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Speaker 3: think it came across very like yesh.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And that's another track from the album.

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Speaker 2: What's your favorite track for the album?

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Speaker 3: No, it's the Life of the show Girl. I don't

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Speaker 3: know why that's not the first single for me. That's

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Speaker 3: that is the most interesting song. It's the most like earwormy.

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Speaker 3: It's when I heard the album for the first time.

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Speaker 3: That's a song that I kept like singing over in

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Speaker 3: my head. What about you, guys?

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Speaker 2: I like, like the show Girl? This is it here?

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Speaker 2: I heard it.

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Speaker 1: I instantly you play them that it is Earwormy's and

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Speaker 1: I love it too.

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Speaker 2: She just does that. Well, I kind of like that.

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Speaker 2: That was for me, right, you know, I'm starting to

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Speaker 2: make my little bracelet.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, you need it bracelet. You need several of them.

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Speaker 3: But the other thing people like is Opalte because that's

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Speaker 3: a very romantic song. You know. She explained it herself

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Speaker 3: on an interview recently that that song is basically a

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Speaker 3: love song for Taylor, for Travis Kelsey and and you

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Speaker 3: know it's really personal.

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Speaker 2: So let's have a listen. You know what, Travis is

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Speaker 2: going to do something wrong and then she can get

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Speaker 2: a bit of the anger against midnight one night and

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Speaker 2: then she goes, you didn't take out the being married.

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Speaker 2: This is what happens. You didn't look after the kids. Cooper,

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Speaker 2: it's always great to talk to you. Thank you for

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Speaker 2: bringing the new New York Sounds is where you've got dogs, dogs,

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Speaker 2: You've got sirens in the background.

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Speaker 3: Hey us here, Yeah, of course it is Cooper Lawrence.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for joining us, Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Cooper,