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Speaker 2: Good morning to you, Good morning Katie.

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Speaker 3: First, may I apologize for not calling in or being

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Speaker 3: sorry about that. Well, Ladcher build Now.

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Speaker 1: I was going to say, it sounds like there's been

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Speaker 3: Yes, we had a gentleman arrive who had left quarantine

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Speaker 1: Do you think or do you know at this point

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Speaker 3: I know at this stage he was on his own

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Speaker 3: Unfortunately it was over a three day period and he

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Speaker 1: The woolies Catherine Well, particularly you know when you think

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Speaker 3: Howard's he was an international traveler who ended in Sydney,

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Speaker 3: probably unlikely he developed it in quarantine that we can't

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Speaker 1: So the concern here could be that he has actually

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Speaker 3: Would be a concern. I don't want, I really hope

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Speaker 1: All right, Chief, and so we will get ready to

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Speaker 3: We will prefer you not to travel into dar be

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Speaker 3: Probably should not come into a lockdown, be my advice.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Parliament obviously canceled and other events that you know,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean yeah, they're developing the North Conference or

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Speaker 3: that I would like to, Katie, and just so all

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Speaker 1: Do we know at this stage whether you know without

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Speaker 3: It's a very good question, Katie, that I don't know

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much, mate.

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