1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:05,440 Speaker 1: Everyone is listening Mix one O four point nine one. Well, 2 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 1: he usually just catches up with us on a Monday. 3 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 1: But joining me on the line right now from Saint 4 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 1: John's it is Craig Garaway. Good morning to you, Craig Okad. 5 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 2: Good morning and twice in one week. 6 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 1: Oh, I was going to say the same, but well 7 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 1: and rightly so, because we know that there was actually 8 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 1: an incident Monday AVO about one thirty. We're a twenty 9 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 1: four year old man was bitten on the wrist by 10 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 1: a black whip snake. Tell us what happened. 11 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, Look, this happened out at how It Springs that 12 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:37,520 Speaker 3: near the dump area there or the tip. 13 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 2: Area on the main. 14 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:44,520 Speaker 3: Road there, and a black whipsnake I believe has come 15 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 3: across an employee or a worker out there and bitten 16 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 3: him on the hand. 17 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:51,240 Speaker 2: I believe. 18 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 3: Obviously this time of year we do get increased snake 19 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 3: bites with the change of weather and snakes start moving around, 20 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 3: and obviously with the rain as well that does start 21 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 3: to flush them out. 22 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, and so obviously this guy was bitten on the wrist. Firstly, 23 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 1: is he okay? Yeah? 24 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, Look they ran KiB below and we gave obviously 25 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 3: the appropriate advice over the bone for them, and they 26 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 3: treated him there while they waited for an ambulance and 27 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 3: he was transported up to the Royal Dale Hospital where 28 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:22,679 Speaker 3: he's making a full recovery, which is great news. 29 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 1: We spoke last week to Rex Nindorf from the Reptile 30 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:29,039 Speaker 1: Center down in Alice Springs and we were talking about 31 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 1: the increased volume of snakes around the place and I 32 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 1: was quite mortified following on from that discussion because he 33 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 1: was like, Katie, They're everywhere all of the time, you 34 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 1: just don't see them. And I thought, Wow, that's frightening 35 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 1: but also quite scary when you talk about injuries and 36 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 1: a really timely reminder really to make sure that we 37 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 1: do the right thing if we are unfortunate enough to 38 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 1: actually be bitten by a snake. Yeah. 39 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 3: Look, Rex is an expert in that area. 40 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 2: I remember Rex from my time in our. 41 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 3: Springs and I actually attended Rex when he was written 42 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 3: by a king brown snake. He ended up very unwell. Yeah, 43 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:09,079 Speaker 3: he was very unwell for a long time after that. 44 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 3: It was actually his pet king ground for Wow. 45 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, but anyway, they are very dangerous and we. 46 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 3: Do have the most poisonous snakes in the world, in 47 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 3: Australia and in particularly in the Northern Territory, so we 48 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 3: do need to be very careful, especially at night when 49 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 3: they're walking around outside. And Rex is right, they're out 50 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 3: there all the time. 51 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 2: It's just we don't see them. 52 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 3: And it's probably just because they're a little bit more 53 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 3: active now that we're starting to see them. 54 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, and so what's the best thing for us to do? 55 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 1: Obviously ring triple zero. But then I'm assuming that there 56 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 1: are some certain steps which are going to be pretty pivotal. 57 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, they are. And the first thing is not to panic. 58 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 3: Unfortunately, if I was written by a snake, because I 59 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:52,839 Speaker 3: just hate snake with a passion, I would panic. But 60 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 3: my advice to everyone else is don't just stake. 61 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 2: Can't relax. 62 00:02:57,480 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 3: The idea is to a mobilize the area, because we 63 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 3: don't want yourunning around and moving that if you have 64 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 3: been infaminated, moving out around your body. So the idea 65 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 3: is to obviously stay still, don't move the patient. 66 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 2: Obviously you've wrung triple zero. 67 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 3: And then the idea is to obviously bandage the site, 68 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 3: usually from the extremity back, so you know, if it's 69 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 3: on the hand we would start at the hand and 70 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 3: you know, bandage up towards the top of the arm, 71 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 3: or you know, if it's the foot from the foot 72 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 3: up and back. Don't wipe the area because we actually 73 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 3: want that area if there is vemination or you know, 74 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 3: some sort of poison there to still be there when 75 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 3: we get to hospital so they can actually test it. 76 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 3: It's really handy for the hospital be able to do 77 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 3: that and actually identify what snake has actually bit new 78 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 3: because the anti venom can can make you actually quite 79 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 3: sick if they get that wrong. So it's very important 80 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 3: not to wipe anything off, just to keep it splinter, 81 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 3: keep it still and keep it and bandage it up 82 00:03:57,800 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 3: with a compression bandage. 83 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 1: Very good vice, Craig. Is there a main type of 84 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 1: snake that you see the majority of snake bites from 85 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 1: up here in the top end or is it really varied? 86 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 2: I think it's varied. 87 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 3: If I was to talk about Central Australia, King Brown 88 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 3: seemed to be everywhere down there and would probably confirm that. 89 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 3: Top end wise, we have from a lock and gather, 90 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 3: we seem they have a lot more variety of snakes 91 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 3: up here. 92 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 2: But you know, I've. 93 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:28,280 Speaker 3: Probably reported over the last two or three months a 94 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 3: number of snake bites, and they will probably just increase 95 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 3: with everything's going on, and they're different types of snake. 96 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:35,479 Speaker 3: And the problem is, Katie, most people actually don't know 97 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:38,839 Speaker 3: what snake bit them, and you know, half time they 98 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 3: don't even see the snake, that it is dark, and 99 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:43,599 Speaker 3: they realize they're being bitten, but the snake's taken off. 100 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 1: So a bit of a variety, I think, yeah, right, 101 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 1: and this will sound like a you know, a real 102 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 1: novice thing to say, but I didn't even realize that 103 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 1: most of those bites happen at nighttime. 104 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:57,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the reason for that is obviously we're 105 00:04:57,720 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 3: walking around at night dark and we just come across 106 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 3: snakes and you know, the snake doesn't have time to 107 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:03,600 Speaker 3: get out of our way. 108 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:05,839 Speaker 2: And unfortunately we step on them. Obviously, during the. 109 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:08,600 Speaker 3: Day daylight hours, it's more likely we're going to see 110 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 3: a snake and therefore. 111 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 2: We're going to avoid it. It's going to avoid. 112 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 3: Us because most snakes, from my understanding, just want to 113 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 3: avoid us. 114 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:17,280 Speaker 2: They don't want to be around us, or they don't 115 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 2: want to attack us. They're just trying to get away. 116 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 2: And when they do buy it. 117 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 3: It's usually trying to self defense in most instances. 118 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:26,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, well there you go. Anything else we should be 119 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:27,040 Speaker 1: aware of. 120 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:31,159 Speaker 3: No, I think it's just at a bit busy twenty 121 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 3: four hours. We had about five crashes across the NT 122 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 3: over the last twenty four hours and nothing to I 123 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 3: think a cow yesterday knocked the guy over in East 124 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 3: arm There number of injuries from that late in the afternoon. 125 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 2: But we've had about and I've just thought one last thing. 126 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 3: We have had sixty snake related incidents in the last 127 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 3: twelve months, so probably you know, getting a couple of months, 128 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 3: but they were increase his time. 129 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 1: So sixty snake related incidents in the last twelve months. 130 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 1: And then you said you did you just say that 131 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:09,039 Speaker 1: a cow knock somebody over. 132 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:12,039 Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, we've got a problem with the animals at 133 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:15,360 Speaker 3: the moment. They seem to be going berserk. So yeah, 134 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:17,160 Speaker 3: it look just happened about four o'cot yesterday. 135 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 2: I believe it. 136 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 3: I'm holding out at Bredair and I believe a cow 137 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 3: has sort of jammed someone between some gates and injured 138 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:30,279 Speaker 3: their chest and knocked them to the ground. So currently 139 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 3: it's attended. Yeah, he's in a stable condition. I think 140 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 3: thirty four year old male from memory of MATHI fifty. 141 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:40,280 Speaker 3: I can't remember anymore. It's my old age company. But yeah, 142 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:43,160 Speaker 3: so he's recovering in hospital. But yeah, stay away from 143 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 3: the animals. They're sort of the heat's obviously impacting on 144 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:46,280 Speaker 3: all of them. 145 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:50,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, goodness, mate, I do hope that he's okay. That'd 146 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 1: be bloody frightening. It sounds like you've been very busy, 147 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:54,159 Speaker 1: Craig Garaway. 148 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 3: Yeah. Look, I think all emergency service and health work 149 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 3: is right across the NTY and Australia at the time 150 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:02,359 Speaker 3: with are really under the pump. So you know, my 151 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:05,479 Speaker 3: heart goes out to everyone that's trying to make a 152 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:08,280 Speaker 3: difference out there in a really hard environment. 153 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 1: Well, Craig Garaway, we appreciate your time. Thank you very 154 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 1: much for having a chat with us. 155 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 2: No worries, Katie, you have a great day. I'll talk 156 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 2: to you Monday. 157 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 1: You too, Thank you,