1 00:00:01,240 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: My name is Lily Madden and I'm a proud Arunda 2 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:08,600 Speaker 1: Bungelung Calcottin woman from Gadighl Country. The Daily oz acknowledges 3 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 1: that this podcast is recorded on the lands of the 4 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 1: Gadighl people and pays respect to all Aboriginal and Torres 5 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: Strait Island and nations. We pay our respects to the 6 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:20,120 Speaker 1: first peoples of these countries, both past and present. 7 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 2: Just a heads up, we're going to be talking about 8 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 2: sexual violence on this episode. If you need support, you 9 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 2: can call one at one hundred respect. 10 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:32,559 Speaker 3: Good morning and welcome to the Daily os. It's Wednesday, 11 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 3: the twelfth of July. I'm Zara Seidler, I'm Sam Kazlowski. 12 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 3: Over forty signatories are calling for a new government body 13 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 3: to address sexual violence on campuses. They've estimated that at 14 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 3: least fourteen thousand students will be sexually assaulted in university 15 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 3: contexts each coming year. If something doesn't change. 16 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 4: They're not willing to do something about it unless somebody 17 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 4: makes them. And now it's the time. 18 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 3: We'll tell you what this open letter is calling for 19 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 3: and what the response has been so far. In today's 20 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 3: deep dive. First, Sam talking about Ben Robert Smith again. 21 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 2: Are we yes he will appeal his unsuccessful defamation case 22 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 2: against nine newspapers. Ben Robert Smith's claims against three papers 23 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 2: were dismissed by the Federal Court in June, with a 24 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:19,679 Speaker 2: judge ruling some key claims in the articles were substantially true. 25 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:23,319 Speaker 2: The newspapers alleged the prominent former soldier either killed or 26 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:26,680 Speaker 2: ordered the killings of prisoners in Afghanistan. And if you 27 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 2: want to know more about this story, there's a link 28 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 2: to our deep dive on the topic. In today's show notes. 29 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 3: The family of the ninety five year old woman who 30 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 3: was tasered in an aged care home is suing the 31 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:41,959 Speaker 3: New South Wales government. Claire Nolan was tasered by police 32 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:44,639 Speaker 3: during an incident in May and died as a result 33 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 3: of her injuries just a week later. 34 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 2: Australians are living longer than ever before. Life expectancy has 35 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 2: increased by over eleven years for both Australian males and 36 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 2: females in the past five decades. The figures were found 37 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 2: by the Australian Health and Welfare Institute. 38 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 3: And the good News. The uniform of the Australian netball 39 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 3: team will feature first Nations artwork for the very first time. 40 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:12,919 Speaker 3: The uniform was unveiled ahead of this month's Netball World Cup. 41 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 3: It depicts a gathering circle representing past, present and future 42 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 3: Australian netball players. A survey in twenty twenty one found 43 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 3: that four point five percent of students had experienced sexual 44 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 3: assaults in starting UNI. Now a group of advocates are 45 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 3: coming together to call on the federal government to do something. 46 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 3: Leading the charge is an organization called end Rape on Campus, 47 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 3: and this organization works for students and staff who have 48 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 3: been impacted by sexual assault and harassment. I spoke to 49 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 3: its founder, Shana Bremner. Shanna, thanks so much for joining 50 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:50,800 Speaker 3: us on the pod this morning. 51 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 4: Thank you very much for having me. 52 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:55,919 Speaker 3: So we're talking to you today because of an open 53 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 3: letter that was released earlier this week that was calling 54 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 3: on the federal government to intervene urgently in how universities 55 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 3: are responding to sexual violence. I guess I want to 56 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 3: start by understanding what prompted this specific call to action. 57 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 4: Sure, so, I mean, students have been actually advocating around 58 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 4: this issue for a really long time. When we started 59 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:20,920 Speaker 4: looking into it to write a report back in twenty eighteen, 60 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 4: we discovered that students have actually been advocating for safer 61 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 4: campuses for about fifty years, which is a really bloody 62 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:32,920 Speaker 4: long time, and we've had government action in schools. We've 63 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 4: seen a huge amount of resources poured into addressing this 64 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 4: issue within schools, making sure consent education is present across 65 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 4: the curriculum. We've also seen the same sort of thing 66 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 4: within workplaces in response to the Kate Jenkins Report and 67 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 4: the Human Rights Visions respect at work stuff. Universities have 68 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 4: now had two national surveys showing that there are staggering 69 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 4: rates of sexual violence within our university communities. But the 70 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 4: progress has been so slow so that it's become really 71 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 4: apparent that if the government doesn't make them do it, 72 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 4: they won't do it. So we decided that an open 73 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 4: letter was the best way to try and get the 74 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 4: attention of the government, and hopefully we've done that. 75 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 3: Why do you think that the rate of progress in 76 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:16,599 Speaker 3: universities has been so slow? I mean you're comparing there 77 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:21,559 Speaker 3: to schools and to workplaces. Why are universities somehow left 78 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 3: out of this progress? 79 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:26,160 Speaker 4: There's a really weird, I think view of universities. I mean, 80 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 4: legally speaking, there's legislation that protects young people in schools. 81 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:33,720 Speaker 4: We have child protection laws there, we have workplace health 82 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 4: and safety laws that protect people in workplaces. Unique students 83 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:40,279 Speaker 4: kind of fall into this legislative black hole where there's 84 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:43,719 Speaker 4: actually no legislation that protects their rights. So I think 85 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 4: that plays a big part of it. But universities in 86 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 4: Australia are largely self regulating bodies. They don't have a 87 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 4: whole lot of oversight, so it means that nobody's really 88 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:57,159 Speaker 4: keeping track of them. There's nobody keeping an eye on them. 89 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 4: So they've been allowed to get away with not addressing 90 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 4: the issue. So we decided that you know, this was 91 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 4: something that is clearly a problem, then not willing to 92 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 4: do something about it unless somebody makes them. And now 93 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 4: it's the time. 94 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:14,359 Speaker 3: You're referring there to the rates at which sexual harassment 95 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 3: sexual violence is occurring on campuses. I mean, I'm a 96 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:21,160 Speaker 3: couple of years out of UNI, but I even remember 97 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 3: hearing about this while I was there. Can you just 98 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 3: outline how big is this problem? 99 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:30,599 Speaker 4: So the last National Student Safety Survey was run in 100 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:34,239 Speaker 4: twenty twenty one, and the report released last year showed 101 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:37,480 Speaker 4: us that one point one percent of all students studying 102 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 4: universities across Australia at the time the survey was conducted 103 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 4: were being sexually assaulted within a university context. So that 104 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 4: was a context whereby the university was directing or involved 105 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:51,840 Speaker 4: in an activity on campus or off campus. And one 106 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 4: point one percent of all students sounds really really small, right, 107 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 4: It sounds like it's not something that's a huge problem. 108 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 4: But there were one point three million students studying at 109 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 4: a Stralian unis when that survey was conducted, So that 110 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:05,839 Speaker 4: looks out to fourteen three hundred sexual assaults a year 111 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:09,279 Speaker 4: within a university context, or two hundred and seventy five 112 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 4: sexual assaults every week, which is a huge amount. And 113 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 4: when you think about the fact that that survey was 114 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:17,720 Speaker 4: actually run when fewer than two thirds of all students 115 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 4: were taking their classes on campus because of pandemic lockdowns, 116 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 4: we'd expect that that two seventy five figure is actually 117 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:26,360 Speaker 4: a really low ball figure and it would be much 118 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 4: higher in reality. 119 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:31,479 Speaker 3: So then what is the answer here. What are you 120 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 3: calling on the government to do to try to lower 121 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:38,159 Speaker 3: those numbers or you know, hopefully to make them go 122 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 3: away altogether. What do you see as the move forward here. 123 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:44,279 Speaker 4: What we think needs to happen is for the government 124 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 4: to intervene to put requirements on universities to actually implement 125 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 4: expert led best practice developed really consistent prevention education across 126 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 4: the university sector because we're just not seeing that. 127 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:59,279 Speaker 3: Are there any unis that you have seen in Australia 128 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:01,279 Speaker 3: that are really doing that already? 129 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 4: There are some that are rolling out online modules. One 130 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:07,719 Speaker 4: called Consent Matters is particularly popular, but the feedback we 131 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 4: get from students is it's not reflective of their experience. 132 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 4: Some students were able to just click through to the 133 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 4: very end of that module without answering a single question 134 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 4: and it told them they've completed it. In some universities 135 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 4: it's only students living in residences that have to complete that. 136 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 4: So it's a really uneven kind of approach across the 137 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 4: sector and we think to actually address this issue, it 138 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:32,679 Speaker 4: needs to be much more structured and much more even 139 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 4: across every university and every student. And in the response space, 140 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 4: we're seeing university responses to sexual violence and reports of 141 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 4: sexual violence that just haven't improved in years. So the 142 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 4: students that we support in our organization come to us 143 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 4: because they've filed a report against another student or a 144 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 4: staff member at their institution, and the university has either 145 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 4: ignored their report completely. Sometimes the report doesn't get a 146 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 4: response for weeks or even months, and in most instances, 147 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 4: students are told they can't find out the outcome of 148 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 4: their report, So they don't know whether the person who 149 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 4: assaulted the miss still on campus until they see them there. 150 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 4: And obviously that's a terrifying thing. 151 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 3: And is that because of some internal protocols at these universities. 152 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 4: They'll claim that it's due to privacy, But obviously, if 153 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 4: you're fearful for your safety, if you're too scared to 154 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 4: go to class, how does one person's privacy outweigh that. 155 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 4: So it's unfortunately a situation where once you filed a 156 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 4: complaint with your university, and a lot of instances, that 157 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 4: complaint becomes between the alleged perpetrator and the university. As 158 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 4: the complainant, you get cut out of the process completely. 159 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 3: And so what mechanism would actually change this? 160 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:47,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, so we need them to actually have minimum standards 161 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 4: that are met because we don't have that right now. 162 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 4: There's no requirement on universities. 163 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 3: And what does that mean? 164 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 4: Well, we would like to see those minimum standards include 165 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 4: things like timeliness requirements. Don't let a complaint drag out 166 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:03,199 Speaker 4: over weeks or months. That's unhelpful and unfair. It would 167 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 4: need to have really clear guidelines on safety measures in 168 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 4: the interim while you're investigating a report. What are the 169 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:12,440 Speaker 4: things you're doing as a university to keep those students 170 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:14,680 Speaker 4: safe on campus so they can keep going to class, 171 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 4: keep learning, hopefully eventually graduate. And then we would really 172 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 4: love to see guidelines around the sanctions that are handed 173 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 4: out to offending students and staff, because those again are 174 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 4: really uneven. We can see people who have been found 175 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 4: guilty of misconduct within the university system and they might 176 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:36,560 Speaker 4: get a note on file as the response from the university, 177 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 4: which is nothing. That's not even a slap on a risk, 178 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:40,559 Speaker 4: that's less than a slap on a wrist. So we 179 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 4: would really like to see guidelines sets so that universities 180 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:46,320 Speaker 4: are held to a certain standard, especially because they're getting 181 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:49,319 Speaker 4: billions of dollars of taxpayer funding every year. They need 182 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:50,560 Speaker 4: to be held accountable and. 183 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:53,680 Speaker 3: How much of it is around this self reporting or 184 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 3: the transparency that universities, You know, we are saying you 185 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 3: tell us whether or not you're doing it good job 186 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 3: at meeting these things, like how much do you think 187 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 3: is about that self reporting mechanism? 188 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 4: The self reporting is a huge problem. Like unis don't 189 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 4: let students grade their own essays, so I don't know 190 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:12,199 Speaker 4: why UNI sinc We should let them grade their own 191 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:15,199 Speaker 4: work on this And in the same way we don't 192 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 4: let students grade their own essays, we require students to 193 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 4: give evidence for their arguments. We require them to back 194 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 4: it up with peer reviewed, evidence based arguments. We haven't 195 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 4: seen that from universities on their work on this issue either, 196 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 4: so there's no way of us right now testing their claims. 197 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 4: So the university SECTI will claim they've rolled out hundreds 198 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 4: of initiatives to address this issue. We can't test that 199 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 4: at the moment because nobody's reporting it and there's no 200 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 4: independent monitoring of it. 201 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 3: And this open letter that you contributed to was addressed 202 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:49,559 Speaker 3: to the federal government, and have we heard anything from 203 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 3: the federal government in response. I mean, this ultimately falls 204 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 3: in kind of a few jurisdictions, but what have you 205 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 3: heard from them? 206 00:10:56,280 --> 00:11:00,199 Speaker 4: We are hopeful that Minister Claire, the Minister for Education, 207 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:04,559 Speaker 4: will actually address this issue in his upcoming National Press 208 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 4: Club address on the nineteenth of July. So right now 209 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 4: there's a big review of the entire university sector happening, 210 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 4: which is the university's accord process, and it's our understanding 211 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 4: that he'll be delivering an interim report from that process 212 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 4: on the nineteenth and we're really hoping that this will 213 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 4: be addressed in there. 214 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 3: And what about universities. Have you had any response from 215 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:26,440 Speaker 3: any universities who have said, you know, we are here 216 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 3: and happy to do what it is you are saying 217 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 3: in order to better protect our students. 218 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 4: Unfortunately no, but that's probably not surprising. Universities have made 219 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 4: grand promises on this in the past. Following the twenty 220 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 4: seventeen Human Rights Commissioner report into this issue at University's 221 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 4: thirty nine unis across Australia made these promises and agreed 222 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:49,439 Speaker 4: to meet a suite of recommendations. And we're actually yet 223 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 4: to see any university come out and say, yeah, we 224 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 4: met all of these recommendations from twenty seventeen. It's an 225 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 4: issue that they just don't think they need to address anymore. 226 00:11:57,520 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 3: I think Shana, thank you so much for your time today. 227 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 4: Thank you very much for having me. 228 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 3: TDA did reach out to the Minister for Education Jason 229 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 3: Clare for a response on this issue, and while he 230 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 3: didn't offer a position on the oversight body that's being 231 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 3: proposed by Shanna and the other signatories, he did say 232 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 3: and I quote here, a sustained effort is needed to 233 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 3: improve student safety on campus. He also said that concerns 234 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 3: around student safety have been raised with a panel reviewing 235 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 3: the university system and as Shanna mentioned, we are actually 236 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 3: expecting an interim report from them in the coming weeks. 237 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 3: We also reached out to Universities Australia, which represents a 238 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 3: whole host of unis here in the country, and Chief 239 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 3: Executive Katrina Jackson got back to us and said that 240 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:46,200 Speaker 3: Universities Australia had launched a world first sector wide Respect 241 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 3: Now Always initiative back in twenty sixteen and that this 242 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 3: had set in motion the development of new measures at 243 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 3: universities across the country to actually prevent and better respond 244 00:12:57,200 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 3: to sexual harm. Katrina Jackson added that the policy frameworks 245 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 3: and good practice guides and other resources that have been 246 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:08,319 Speaker 3: developed have been developed in conjunction with experts, and that 247 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 3: universities Australia will continue to work with individual universities to 248 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 3: combat sexual harm on campus. 249 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 2: Thanks for listening to this episode of The Daily OS 250 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 2: and a reminder that if you or someone you know 251 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 2: needs help, you can call one eight hundred Respect for 252 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 2: twenty four hour sexual assault, Family and Domestic violence counseling. 253 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 2: Will be back again tomorrow. Have a good day.