1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,240 Speaker 1: My name's Sasha Bamblet. I'm a proud First Nations woman 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:08,600 Speaker 1: and I'm here to acknowledge country t Glenn Young, Ganya, Niana, 3 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 1: Kaka yah y and Binahaka nian Ar gay In Mbini 4 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 1: yakarum Jar dominyamiga Umagahawaka Woman Damon imlan Bumba ban Gadabomba 5 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:20,239 Speaker 1: in and now in wakah ghan On yak rum Jar 6 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:24,920 Speaker 1: water Nadaa. Hello, beautiful friends, we gather on the lands 7 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 1: of the Aboriginal people. We thank acknowledge and respect the 8 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 1: Aberiginal people's land that we're gathering on today. Take pleasure 9 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 1: in all the land and respect all that you see. 10 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:40,160 Speaker 1: She's on the Money podcast acknowledges culture, country, community and connections, 11 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:44,560 Speaker 1: bringing you the tools, knowledge and resources for you to thrive. 12 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 2: She's on the Money. 13 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:47,840 Speaker 3: She's on the Money. 14 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to She's on the Money, the podcast 15 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 2: that makes personal finance fun, especially on Fridays. Friday is 16 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 2: mine and I guess our whole team's favorite day of 17 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 2: the week because we get our team together and we 18 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 2: get to celebrate you, our incredible She's on the Money 19 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 2: community today, no surprises. We're back into the swing of it. 20 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:27,400 Speaker 2: Miss Jess Gotrich is going to be sharing some of 21 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 2: our favorite community money wins. Miss beck Sayeed is going 22 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 2: to be sharing your broke tips from this week, and 23 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 2: we're going to be helping to answer a money dilemma 24 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 2: about whether a bridging loan is a good idea and 25 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 2: a DM that you slid into our inbox about what 26 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 2: rules should you put in place when it comes to 27 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:45,320 Speaker 2: dating and money, which could be really fun because it's 28 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 2: all going to be the good friend. But before we 29 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 2: get there, guys, would you like a five star review? Absolutely? 30 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 2: So this five star review didn't come for our podcast, 31 00:01:55,200 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 2: Oh sorry, it came from my Investing masterclass And this 32 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 2: is from Dha, So she says, I wanted to express 33 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 2: that doing the Investing master Class put me in a 34 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 2: much better position to understand, digest, and confidently navigate the 35 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 2: whole process. It really made a noticeable difference to my 36 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:18,639 Speaker 2: confidence levels. Victoria and the team teach financial literacy exceptionally well, 37 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 2: which has given me a strong foundation of knowledge to 38 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 2: trust in, supported me in navigating the advice I'm getting, 39 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:27,919 Speaker 2: and helped me feel comfortable expanding my risk engagement rather 40 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:32,239 Speaker 2: than always playing it safe, which actually isn't safe in hindsight? 41 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 2: Really sweet, incredible, My fair investors loved it, I know. 42 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:40,360 Speaker 2: And my favorite thing is these. Actually, every time someone 43 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 2: leaves a five star review for my courses, I actually 44 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 2: get it emailed to me. So I get these like 45 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 2: emails pretty consistently of people being like, oh my god, 46 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 2: the money master Class. Oh my god, the investing mask Class. 47 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 2: I do not get sick of it. 48 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 4: No, I do not. 49 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 2: All right, let's move forward, less master class, more perfect questions, 50 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 2: I suppose. So it's time for that part of Friday 51 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 2: Drinks where you guys get to as in our community 52 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:06,799 Speaker 2: gets to ask us one question that you are dying 53 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 2: to know. It can be literally about anything, and this 54 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:11,959 Speaker 2: week's question comes from our friend Amber, who wants to 55 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 2: know what are your favorite beauty dupes? 56 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:24,919 Speaker 3: Oh, I have one number four MC Beauty Vanilla and 57 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 3: or no no, no, it's a jeep for soald Asionaire. Sorry, yes, 58 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 3: the so what's it called? 59 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:34,640 Speaker 4: Saltasionaire? So the one we were looking at it when 60 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 4: we were looking at sold Asaire sold Asianaio in Mecca. 61 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 4: They have a dupe and it is the most delicious 62 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 4: thing I've ever smelled. It honestly smells like something is 63 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 4: baking right now in your kitchen and it is the 64 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 4: salted caramel pistachio something like that. 65 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:51,839 Speaker 3: It's number four. I believe you got you gotta smell 66 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 3: this and it is like, I think fourteen dollars or 67 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 3: something something else. I don't know. 68 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 2: It's like fifty bucks. It's expensive. 69 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 3: Expensive, it's expense and so that's the extraight out of. 70 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 2: The gates with a beauty dupe. But I did not 71 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 2: see her done. 72 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 3: Did you see her in Mecca? We went to Mecca 73 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 3: at the airport. We went to city for work, and 74 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 3: she made a beeline to that thing. I did well. 75 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 3: Jess has told me a few things. 76 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 2: Am I looking at skincare or makeup more? 77 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 3: I'm looking for anything that my girlfriend currently has in 78 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 3: her makeup bag so that I can see if it's 79 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 3: on special. She's really taught me the ways, the ways 80 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:24,600 Speaker 3: of the world. 81 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:27,720 Speaker 2: You know, love this, So it's mainly she's being warm. 82 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 3: Cream. Yeah, cream. 83 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 4: Mine is not a dupe per se, but it's like 84 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 4: a little tip slash cheap option. It is instead of 85 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 4: doing like a fancy lip glass or even sometimes instead 86 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:43,799 Speaker 4: of lipstick, I'll do a Lano lipslip Bump. 87 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 3: Fourteen dollars. I think from Mecca. 88 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 4: They do all these amazing flavors, and they do these 89 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 4: jelly ones that are tinted. Now, So if you do 90 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 4: need a bit of color, yeah, when did that happen? 91 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 2: I know? 92 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 4: So you can do one with a tim if you 93 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 4: do want a bit of color. Otherwise, I love to 94 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 4: do it over the top of a lipstain, like I 95 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 4: love a Benettin or something like. And I find it 96 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:02,840 Speaker 4: just wears really nice. It gives you glossy lips, but 97 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:05,280 Speaker 4: it feels good. It's not sticky, and you can kind 98 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 4: of put it on without really thinking about it. And yeah, 99 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 4: like I think they're around the fourteen dollar mark. 100 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 2: Gorgeous. 101 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 3: I would call that a money in. 102 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 2: I'm going to bring the mood down. Oh I hated you, Yeah, 103 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 2: I hated you. I don't like MC beauty. You won't 104 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 2: catch me working with them. I can't like and I 105 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 2: don't particularly care. Oh no, I'm going to burn my 106 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 2: bridge there. Well, I wasn't ever going to work with 107 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 2: them anyway. 108 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 3: It is the ethics of it all. 109 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 2: I just can't deal with it. I just go and 110 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 2: maybe we could do a whole episode on this dube culture. 111 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:42,279 Speaker 2: But they're using another brand's marketing, another brand's product visually 112 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:45,160 Speaker 2: to sell you a product that you immediately go, I 113 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:47,480 Speaker 2: love this, it's a dupe of this, But then you 114 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 2: look at all the ingredients and they are wildly different. 115 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:51,840 Speaker 2: Like if you look at any of their products that 116 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 2: are packaged exactly the same, like the Charlotte, They've gone 117 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 2: rife on Charlotte Tilbury. None of those products are comparable. 118 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 2: The packaging identical, Like the packaging is so similar, but 119 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 2: then you look at the ingredients and you're like, well, 120 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:07,360 Speaker 2: that's not what you're getting, Like you're not getting a 121 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 2: like for like product. So I very much believe in 122 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 2: just finding products that you really like, not necessarily looking 123 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:16,840 Speaker 2: for a dupe of a I don't know, I just 124 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:19,719 Speaker 2: the dube culture is getting me because I'm like, you're 125 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 2: not actually caring about the product itself. You're caring about 126 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 2: the marketing and the branding and being seen with a 127 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 2: product or being seen with specific lipstick packaging, and I 128 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 2: just feel like that's over consumerism. 129 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 4: The definition of a dupe has changed significantly. Because we 130 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:36,160 Speaker 4: both loved watching like a YouTube Vita Geo back in 131 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:38,160 Speaker 4: the day. I was, yes, same, I participated in the 132 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:42,159 Speaker 4: YouTube ud Guru YouTube that was a life stup. But anyway, 133 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 4: here know there like back in the day, people would 134 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 4: make Jube videos and they would be swatching products like, oh, 135 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 4: if you like this mac eyeshadow, you like the color 136 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:51,280 Speaker 4: of it, you can't afford it. 137 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 3: Here is a comparable boreal version, correct, which I think 138 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 3: that I. 139 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:57,280 Speaker 2: Have no issue issue with that at all. 140 00:06:57,440 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 3: I completely agree that. 141 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 4: I think there are lots of now that try to 142 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 4: replicate more high end products and it is as exactly said, 143 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:05,720 Speaker 4: it's all in the packaging, and it's like, that's not 144 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 4: to me. I think, if you want to find this, 145 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 4: you know, like I switched from the Boomboom cream because 146 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 4: quite frankly, I can't afford to spend ninety dollars on 147 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 4: a body moisture. 148 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 3: Absolutely Now I get the soap and glory they. 149 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, they've just released the vanilla one have. 150 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 4: Yes, I haven't tried the vanilla, but hey, the vanilla 151 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 4: is elite, but like I've switched that and that necessarily 152 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 4: isn't a direct dupe, but it's like a comparable product. 153 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 4: And to me, when I think due like that's what 154 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 4: I think, like these brands ripping off each other's designs, creations, 155 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 4: et cetera. 156 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 3: Exactly. 157 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 2: Not okay, So my favorite jube in that case is 158 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 2: the Nivia Soft Cream Julie note it. It is the moisturizer, 159 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 2: and Charlotte Tilbury has historically spoken about that being a 160 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 2: really great moisturizer, comparable to her Magic Cream, which is 161 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 2: like one hundred and fifty dollars a pot. Yeah, I 162 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 2: would say that I use the Nivia Soft Cream, by 163 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 2: the way, under five dollars for a tube of it 164 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 2: at the serial arket. Okay, And that's my daily top 165 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 2: up moisturizer slash primer. I love a loreal product, So 166 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 2: I love and like I just I really like cosmetics. 167 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 2: I can just get at easily price line for a 168 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 2: price point that I don't feel like, oh my god, 169 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 2: I'm putting one hundred and ten dollars like foundation on 170 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 2: my face. Do not get me wrong. I'm in the 171 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 2: privileged position where I do own those things as well. 172 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 2: But I'm a pretty reasonable person. Every single day. To me, 173 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 2: that's ridiculous. You don't in my head, I do not 174 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 2: need to wear Georgio Armani foundation every single day. My 175 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 2: loreal true match has never done me dirty. Yeah you 176 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:34,079 Speaker 2: know what I mean, And I can get that on 177 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 2: sale and the R money that doesn't go on sale. 178 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 5: Yeah. 179 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 2: Anyway, if you guys have a question that you want 180 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:41,839 Speaker 2: a real, honest, authentic answer from, leave it in the 181 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 2: comments below or email us or slide into our DMS. 182 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 2: Moving on, Miss jez Garucci Community money Wins. 183 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:50,719 Speaker 4: What have you got already? Firstly, Shona says, I have 184 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 4: set my intentions and resolutions for twenty twenty six. My 185 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 4: goal is to save at least ten thousand dollars and 186 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 4: also set up some new bank accounts so I can 187 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 4: keep track of my spendings and savor better. I already 188 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 4: feel so relieved. Also, it's my birthday today, Happy birthday, 189 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:07,199 Speaker 4: so I will we taking advantage of all the free 190 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 4: dies that I can get Boost Juice, churros and a 191 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 4: free donut at Crispy Cream Good Adredable. Next, I've got 192 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:16,320 Speaker 4: one from Stacy who said she won two competitions in one. 193 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 3: Week, which is a very nice little surprise. 194 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:20,839 Speaker 4: She said she normally never wins anything, and she walked 195 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 4: away with a baby swaddle and also a free. 196 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:27,320 Speaker 3: Clean for her house and a free beauty treatment. Oh 197 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 3: my love, I would love it. 198 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:31,440 Speaker 2: Free cream and a free treatment. You come on over, 199 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 2: tell me I'm pretty and clean my house. Oh my god, 200 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 2: marry that person. 201 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 4: Next, I want money win from Logan, who said they 202 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 4: recently had a doctor's appointment where the receptionist did not 203 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:44,200 Speaker 4: ask them to tap their card for a second time 204 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 4: for the Medicare rebate. They checked their account and it 205 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:48,559 Speaker 4: had never went in, so they jumped on MyGov to 206 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 4: make a Medicare claim and to their surprise, had a 207 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:54,959 Speaker 4: message for Medicare saying that they were owed money and 208 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 4: that their bank details need to be updated. The bank 209 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:00,319 Speaker 4: details are really old. They checked the account today to 210 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:03,079 Speaker 4: find every rebate that had been missed out on for 211 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 4: the past four years. 212 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:07,439 Speaker 3: Sorry what I was ready to be deposited? It was 213 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:09,680 Speaker 3: over five hundred dollars money win. 214 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 4: Logan said, this is your sign to make sure you're 215 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 4: checking your Medicare rebate goes in and if it doesn't, 216 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 4: look into why because you maybe owed some money? So 217 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:18,719 Speaker 4: a little life I've been for everybody to do. I 218 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:20,960 Speaker 4: think tonight, yes, and then I've got a money win. 219 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:23,680 Speaker 4: From Eliza, who said she made a silly purchase online, 220 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 4: tried to return it, but they ended up offering her 221 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 4: a seventy percent refund to keep the product. So she 222 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:31,959 Speaker 4: said a money loss turned into kind of a money win, 223 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:36,080 Speaker 4: and lessoned learned about falling for Instagram ads. And then 224 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 4: lastly this week, I have got a money win from 225 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 4: dem who said I got an Airbnb that looked nothing 226 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 4: like it was advertised. It's completely wrong as to what 227 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 4: the description, et cetera was. I made sure I took 228 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:49,959 Speaker 4: real time photos, launched a request and got myself a 229 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 4: little refund. 230 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 2: That is so good, but also how disappointing. 231 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 3: I know we're hearing lots of stories about that at 232 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 3: the moment. 233 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 2: It's actually crazy. 234 00:10:57,040 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, especially those little tiny homes. Yeah, oh my god. 235 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:04,200 Speaker 3: So unyoke is pretty good. They're always that's always accurate. 236 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 2: I love it. It's your time to shine. What broke 237 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:10,840 Speaker 2: tips are you bringing to the table this oy? 238 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 4: Yeah. 239 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 3: So, my work friend just the other day gave me 240 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:18,439 Speaker 3: this hack. She had an aceop deodorant, like a little spray. 241 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:21,439 Speaker 2: But those are so expensive, but also they smell so good. 242 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 3: They are expensive. She was saying that it's cheaper than 243 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:26,319 Speaker 3: the perfume. It smells just as good. So we sprist 244 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 3: it on ourselves and. 245 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 2: I was like, oh my god, this actually does a trick. 246 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 2: It is yodorant. 247 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 3: It's very expensive for yodorant, but if you're buying it 248 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 3: as a perfume, it really I think it's a lot 249 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 3: cheaper and it smells amazing, you know what I mean? 250 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 2: So your purpose product, Yes, exactly right now. 251 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 3: I don't know how good it does as deodorant, but anyway, 252 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:47,320 Speaker 3: we'll see. 253 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 2: Who cares. If you like the product, you're allowed to 254 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:50,960 Speaker 2: spend money on it. Absolutely, absolutely. 255 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 3: So the sex one comes from Nadine, who says using 256 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:57,440 Speaker 3: dry mode when running the air con is a lot 257 00:11:57,520 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 3: cheaper to run, and also it makes your homel bless humid, 258 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 3: which yees. So it's so she sent me like an 259 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 3: Instagram video and so I won't open it right now, 260 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 3: but if you would like the link, I can give 261 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 3: that to you. But it's the little tear drop or 262 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 3: rain drop icon. When you go home, you'll see, I 263 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 3: know them really going to go have a look. 264 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 2: You go have a look. 265 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 3: It could be that icon and sometimes it looks a 266 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 3: bit different. 267 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:22,320 Speaker 4: Cheap. 268 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 3: I'm not a wide cheaper, but apparently it is a 269 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 3: lot cheaper. 270 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 2: All right, I'm going to do my research by going 271 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 2: home and looking around. I'll call you if I've got questions, 272 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:33,080 Speaker 2: because you've got the link. 273 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:36,839 Speaker 3: I have the link and then my one. So I 274 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:39,079 Speaker 3: kind of like don't want Messina to ever listen to this, 275 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 3: But Messina ice cream hack. If you go to Messina 276 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 3: and you get like a little small tub of. 277 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:47,680 Speaker 4: Ice cream, it's nineteen dollars and you take it home, 278 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:50,839 Speaker 4: you serve it up, blah blah blah. Instead what you 279 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 4: ask for is a three scoop in a takeaway container. 280 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:57,439 Speaker 4: It comes in the same container, and it's filled the 281 00:12:57,520 --> 00:13:00,719 Speaker 4: same amount. Is the exact same thing as going in 282 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:04,079 Speaker 4: and getting a small takeaway tub, and it's only ten dollars. 283 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 3: Sorry, it's three screws of Masina only ten dollars. That 284 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:09,840 Speaker 3: feels like a good deal to me. It is ten dollars, Yes, 285 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 3: it's dollars. 286 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 2: The Messiner is actually across the road from Grilled, and 287 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:15,319 Speaker 2: we already agreed that after this recording we're going to 288 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 2: Grilled to get lunch. So I just feel like we 289 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 2: should test that immediately, should make a video about it. 290 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:23,719 Speaker 3: I am sure anyone who lives in Melbourne knows this guy. 291 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 3: I don't know his name. I'm so sorry. I know 292 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 3: exactly who you're talking. You know exactly what'stache he does. Oh, 293 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:30,439 Speaker 3: he's great and he's the one that I saw, Like 294 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 3: I got that from put that link in the show 295 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 3: notes so that people can totally. But the reason I'm 296 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 3: saying this is because they may have cottoned on and 297 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:38,679 Speaker 3: stopped doing that. 298 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:41,560 Speaker 2: So getting quick, that's on them. That's on them, all right. 299 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 2: Moving on, we're going to go to a really quick 300 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 2: break and on the flip side, we're going to be 301 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 2: helping to answer a money dilemma about whether a bridging 302 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 2: loan is a good idea. Also explain what a bridging 303 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 2: loan is. And we got a DM this week. You 304 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 2: asked us what rules should we be putting in place 305 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 2: when it comes to dating and money, So guys don't 306 00:13:59,160 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 2: go anywhere. 307 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 3: Welcome back, everybody. Let's take a listen to this week's 308 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 3: money dilemma. 309 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 2: Hi, there, have you got a money dilemma you just 310 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:14,719 Speaker 2: can't solve the She's on the Money team is here 311 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 2: to help. Every week we tackle your dilemmas, both big 312 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 2: and small, to answer your most burning money career and 313 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 2: life questions. To get involved, simply head to our website 314 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 2: and leave us a short voice recording, and you might 315 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 2: just find yourself on the show. Now, let's take a 316 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 2: listen to this week's money dilemma. 317 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 6: High Sees on the Money. I'm really interested to learn 318 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 6: more about bridging loans. I am thinking about upgrading my 319 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 6: current home that I live in, but I'm nervous to 320 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 6: sell it and then move into a rental and then 321 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 6: potentially be without a house if I can't buy. So 322 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 6: the prospect of buying a property first and then telling 323 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 6: mine is very attractive, but I am a bit worried 324 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 6: about the conside of bridging loans, such as if I 325 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 6: can't sell my current property. Came for your perspective, Thank you. 326 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 4: May I just say that perhaps we handle all this 327 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 4: one straight over Tone her owns a mortgage breaking company. 328 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 2: I think, so, oh wow, you guys think I might 329 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 2: have a response that's so crazy. She explained it pretty well. 330 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 2: So a bridging loan is exactly what you think it is. 331 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 2: It is a short term home loan that you get 332 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 2: that helps you purchase a brand new property before you've 333 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 2: sold your existing one, and people use them when they 334 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 2: want to secure their next home without having to rush 335 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 2: the sale on their current property, especially in relatively competitive markets, 336 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 2: because you don't want to like quickly have to sell, sell, sell, 337 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 2: and take the first offer like we want to get 338 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 2: the best offer. But essentially quote bridges the gap between 339 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 2: buying and selling and gives you access to temporary funds 340 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 2: so that you can move first and then sell later, 341 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 2: which is also really nice because you could move all 342 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 2: of your stuff out into your brand new home and 343 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 2: then have an empty home to style and sell nicer 344 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 2: or something like that, rather than feeling like you have 345 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 2: to accept a lower price on your property. People are 346 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 2: also going to use bridging loans if like so like 347 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 2: Steve and I right, like, we weren't shopping for a 348 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 2: brand new home, and thankfully we didn't use a bridging loan, 349 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 2: so I won't say, oh, yes, this is exactly what happened. 350 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 2: But we purchase down home that we currently live in 351 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 2: before we even thought about selling our current home because 352 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 2: we're like, oh my god, our dream home has literally 353 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 2: just popped up. We don't want to miss this opportunity. 354 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 2: Auctions in two weeks. Yeah, so we had to think 355 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 2: about what finance would look like and if you don't 356 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 2: have the finances to purchase that dream home, but you're like, 357 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 2: I could if I sold my house. Though, you can 358 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 2: get a loan that will bridge the gap, so they 359 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 2: will pay for it during that period of time. The 360 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 2: interest rate is higher, so you do have to take 361 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 2: that into consideration, but usually you're very happy to pay 362 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 2: that because you're like, great, I'll do that and then 363 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 2: I can sort this out in due course instead of 364 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 2: being forced to sell it, but also not forced to 365 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 2: sell it. You cannot sell a house within two weeks, no, 366 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 2: so there's often ways to do that. Some people just 367 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 2: want to do it because they feel safer securing their 368 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 2: new home before selling their own home, because they're like, well, 369 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 2: I don't want to sell my current property and then 370 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 2: like not find our dream home, Like what if I 371 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 2: sell that and then I'm homeless? Yeah, like I don't 372 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:09,639 Speaker 2: want to be between houses. So there's lots of reasons 373 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:12,399 Speaker 2: people use them. I would talk to a mortgage broker, 374 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:15,119 Speaker 2: obviously one at Zella Money, but I would talk to 375 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 2: a mortgage broker about how to utilize that, whether it 376 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:21,360 Speaker 2: works in your circumstances. I have lots of thoughts and opinions, 377 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 2: because you know, if you've got a not so favorable 378 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 2: apartment in a block that doesn't sell very well, and 379 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 2: then you're going to use a bridging loan, can we 380 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:32,359 Speaker 2: guarantee that there will be a sale that happens? Like, 381 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:34,879 Speaker 2: you want to be pretty confident if you're taking on 382 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 2: a bridging loan that the property that you currently own 383 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:37,640 Speaker 2: will sell. 384 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 4: What happens in that circumstance, Like, let's say you take 385 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 4: out the bridging loan and you don't sell your property, Yeah. 386 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:46,159 Speaker 2: Because there's lots of things that could happen, but essentially 387 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:48,200 Speaker 2: you will be stuck on that bridging loan with a 388 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 2: bigger interest, right, which can be really scary. Yeah, And 389 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 2: so I don't want to scare you away from it, 390 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:55,200 Speaker 2: but like talk to a broker because, like you know, 391 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:57,440 Speaker 2: in the Melbourne market, if you're in a city and 392 00:17:57,560 --> 00:17:59,680 Speaker 2: you're selling like and when I say inner city, I 393 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:04,639 Speaker 2: mean the fifty kilometers around, very likely to sell. But 394 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 2: then maybe if you're like super regional and that house 395 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:09,680 Speaker 2: is going to take twelve to eighteen months to sell, 396 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 2: maybe that's not so favorable. But then also there's that 397 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 2: added layer of risk as well. You can't just go, 398 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:18,879 Speaker 2: I will get a bridging loan, because the company offering 399 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 2: the bridging loans are very likely to assess your properties. Sorry, 400 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 2: what do you currently own because that's basically the equity 401 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 2: and what are you buying, and then they'll make a 402 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:30,639 Speaker 2: decision as to whether they would even issue a bridging loan. 403 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 2: So we have had circumstances before where people have wanted 404 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:36,919 Speaker 2: bridging loans come to us, we do everything within our 405 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 2: might to help, and the banks go, we're not going 406 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 2: to give you a bridging Yeah, that's not going to happen. 407 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 2: And in that case, just so you know, there are 408 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 2: backup options. There are people that we can go to 409 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 2: who can give you short term loans for home deposits 410 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 2: and stuff like that, so that then if you aren't 411 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 2: serviceable for a bridging loan, we can use that. 412 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:55,359 Speaker 3: And then do you have to pay mortgage on booth? 413 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:58,200 Speaker 2: Yes, there is like a period of time, but this 414 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:00,360 Speaker 2: is the bridging loan that kind of bridges the gap, 415 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 2: so the I'm completely financially screwed. I see, I see it. 416 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 2: They're usually relatively lenient, but with that leniency comes a 417 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:11,120 Speaker 2: premium in your interest rate. Okay, you answer that, Yeah, nothing, 418 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:14,199 Speaker 2: nothing to add, No, just. 419 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 3: Take me to his advice. Yeah, she's always like she's 420 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 3: the expert. 421 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:19,879 Speaker 2: Look I pretend to be. I'm not a mortgage broker, 422 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:22,679 Speaker 2: which is kind of funny given I own a mortgage 423 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 2: broking business. But I know enough. It's not that I 424 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 2: know enough. I should just go do the bloody degree 425 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 2: because at this point I feel like I know everything, 426 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:33,359 Speaker 2: not everything, but you know what I mean, Like, yeah, 427 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:36,119 Speaker 2: I could do the job, I'm just not a credited 428 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:38,920 Speaker 2: to do so. All right, here is the juicy DM 429 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 2: that we got this week. Hey, she's on the money. 430 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 2: I got out of a long term relationship and I 431 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 2: am finally dating again. This time I'm more financially literate 432 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:50,399 Speaker 2: and conscious of money dynamics. A few things have happened 433 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:53,879 Speaker 2: on dates that have given me the ick, like keeping 434 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 2: score of who paid, or going quiet when the bill 435 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 2: comes to test me on if I'll pay, or make 436 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 2: jokes about gold. One even said I'm too switched on 437 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 2: about money. 438 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 3: Oh what red flag? 439 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 2: Friends keep telling me I'm being picky and that dating 440 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:11,119 Speaker 2: is already hard enough when it comes to money. I 441 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 2: don't know what standards are reasonable at this stage. Rules 442 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:16,920 Speaker 2: I should have and red flags I should look out for. 443 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 2: Am I being too picky? Or am I overthinking it? 444 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:22,720 Speaker 2: I'd love the community's opinion on all of this. 445 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 3: M I was telling a friend the other day that 446 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 3: sometimes if you like go on a date, this isn't 447 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 3: very relevant to money, but I think that it will 448 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:35,120 Speaker 3: come back to this. But a friend, a male friend, 449 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:38,440 Speaker 3: said to someone, men don't date women who go home 450 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:41,160 Speaker 3: on the first date or something ridiculous like that, something 451 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:43,920 Speaker 3: really old school, something inherently extremely sexist. 452 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 2: You're not taking advantage of me, but I'm taking advantage. 453 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 3: Yes, exactly. And I said, well, you should keep doing that, 454 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:52,639 Speaker 3: then you should keep going home on the first date, 455 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 3: because then you'll weed out those kind of guys that 456 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:58,399 Speaker 3: think like that, because they are disgusting. And so in 457 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 3: this situation, I a if you already kind of know like, 458 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:04,479 Speaker 3: because I don't think it's just money. I think there 459 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 3: is something inherently like something's as symptomatic, if something bigger. 460 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:09,639 Speaker 3: So if a guy is saying, are you a goldiger 461 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:12,399 Speaker 3: or are you gonna pay for this, it's like, okay, 462 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:14,440 Speaker 3: you hate women, sorry, but that's just black and white. 463 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 3: You're just a misogynist. And I don't want to date you. 464 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 3: So I think that it's really really good to still 465 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:20,200 Speaker 3: keep those values because a lot of the time it's 466 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 3: not just like are you tight with your money or 467 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:23,880 Speaker 3: are you not tight with your money? It is way 468 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 3: bigger than that. It is something that is because I'm assuming, 469 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 3: and I shouldn't assume. But this is quite like a 470 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 3: maybe like het norm hetero kind of dynamic. Maybe the 471 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:35,120 Speaker 3: listener is woman. 472 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're being in a completely dating like different dating 473 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 2: space totally totally. I was about to be like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, 474 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 2: and then I was like, you wouldn't go on a 475 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:44,639 Speaker 2: date with a misogynistic man and they wouldn't even come 476 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:47,640 Speaker 2: near you, like you wouldn't let them. 477 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:52,159 Speaker 3: No, certainly not, but yes, I so like, listening on, 478 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:55,680 Speaker 3: I'm thinking that's maybe the situation. So I would say, yeah, 479 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:58,159 Speaker 3: keep doing what you're doing because I know that you know, 480 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 3: and you're not even probably conscious of it, that these 481 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 3: little things they're saying in the way they're acting around 482 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 3: money is not just about money. You're not just like, oh, 483 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:07,879 Speaker 3: I don't want a man that's broke, because that's not 484 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:11,200 Speaker 3: at all what it is. As a more masculine woman 485 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 3: in this dynamic with a feminine woman. I can understand 486 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 3: the pressures of that of feeling like I have to 487 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 3: pay for everything, So I get it. But I don't 488 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:22,880 Speaker 3: think that's what you're saying. I think you're weeding out 489 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 3: people that don't respect women, and don't respect powerful women, 490 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 3: and don't like when women are independent and have their 491 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 3: own money and have this confidence. So keep doing what 492 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 3: you're doing. I trust your process. Basically, Yes, I feel like. 493 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:39,359 Speaker 4: We may have interpreted this differently because I completely agree 494 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 4: with you on the gold Dealer comment. Unacceptable like unacceptable, 495 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:46,119 Speaker 4: get the bin, never getting another day. I interpreted this 496 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 4: as our listener is not liking that people they're potentially 497 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:53,639 Speaker 4: dating at keeping track of who's paid what, and so 498 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 4: like I'm imagining in my head like maybe the guy 499 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:58,399 Speaker 4: paid for the first day and he's expecting her to 500 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 4: pay for the second date, you know, some kind of 501 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,640 Speaker 4: back and forth like that, to which, like I say, 502 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 4: you are allowed to have your preferences, and you are allowed, 503 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 4: you know, if you want to date somebody who does 504 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 4: take on a more traditional financial ques, you're allowed. You're correct, 505 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 4: But I also don't think it is fair to apply 506 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:19,639 Speaker 4: that as a standard, because if I'm honest. My personal 507 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:25,679 Speaker 4: broad take on finances in relationships is to keep things 508 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:29,440 Speaker 4: as equitable as possible and to keep things on some 509 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 4: level as separate as possible for as long as possible. 510 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 4: I think, Like, to me, I've been with my partner 511 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 4: for nearly a decade and we still don't share our 512 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:41,119 Speaker 4: finances completely. It doesn't really make sense for us to, 513 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 4: like we split our rent, we split our bills, we 514 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:46,399 Speaker 4: split out, we don't split our dates. But you're like 515 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 4: someone will pay for dinner. It kind of comes out 516 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 4: in the wash when you're together. But I mean, it's 517 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 4: also very different when you're in a long term relationship 518 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:55,360 Speaker 4: where versus when you're like dating independently. But I think 519 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:58,879 Speaker 4: that to me, it's very much just about what is 520 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:02,399 Speaker 4: comfortable to you, but also acknowledging, like if there are 521 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:04,440 Speaker 4: other people who go, well, if I pay for the 522 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,639 Speaker 4: first date, I would prefer for you to pay for 523 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 4: the second date because that is what my preference is. 524 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 3: That's what I feel is fair. 525 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:14,160 Speaker 4: That is also okay, Like there's no right and wrong there. 526 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 4: You're allowed to have your preference or whatever gives you 527 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:19,400 Speaker 4: the ick. That's fine, But I don't necessarily think there's 528 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 4: a standardized rule, because everybody has their own relationship and 529 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:24,920 Speaker 4: thoughts and feelings with money, and so for somebody, you 530 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:26,640 Speaker 4: might go, oh, well, I don't know if I'm gonna 531 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 4: date you for a long time, Like we're figuring that out. 532 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 3: That's what dating is. 533 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 4: So if I pay for the first four dates and 534 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:35,479 Speaker 4: then we never go out again, I can understand how 535 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 4: like on a male or a more masculine person, or 536 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,879 Speaker 4: the person taking on that traditional role that is like 537 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 4: financially quite hard sometimes and like I can understand not 538 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:46,639 Speaker 4: wanting to have that, So you know what I mean, 539 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 4: it's you can have your preferences and that's fine. But 540 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 4: I guess what I'm struggling to say is like it's 541 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 4: hard to apply a hard and fast rule. 542 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 2: I think, yeah, yeah, I think I would approach it. 543 00:24:55,640 --> 00:25:00,360 Speaker 2: And going back, my dating experience was when I was debt. 544 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 2: I was in personal debt and then guess what, I 545 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:06,920 Speaker 2: met another person, Steven, fell in love with him. He 546 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 2: was also in personal debt, so we were both really 547 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:13,399 Speaker 2: bad man together. But I always really liked irrespective of 548 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:16,440 Speaker 2: what financial position I was in. I never liked a 549 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 2: man having an upper hand on me. I agree, and 550 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 2: like this is not personal advice. This is just how 551 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:25,200 Speaker 2: I approached it. I never liked and still don't like 552 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 2: feeling like I owe someone something. So like, if you 553 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 2: and I go out for dinner, I get a little 554 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 2: bit uncomfortable if you want to pay for the whole bill, Like, 555 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,159 Speaker 2: I really don't like that. In fact, I would say 556 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 2: I'm the first person to pay for it in its entirety, 557 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 2: because I'm like, no, that makes me feel comfortable. And 558 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 2: I mean, nowadays, I do that because I know I'm 559 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 2: in the financial position to do that, and that's really good. 560 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 2: But when I was dating, I just didn't want somebody 561 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:51,119 Speaker 2: to have an upper hand on me. And I'm not 562 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:52,640 Speaker 2: saying that that was a good thing because I would 563 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 2: have been in less debt had I let all of 564 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:57,120 Speaker 2: the men that I dated pay for all of the dates. Yeah, 565 00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:01,200 Speaker 2: if you want to work that, I go, like, but 566 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 2: I just think you're not being too picky, you are 567 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 2: having boundaries. But comments about being a gold digger, like 568 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:11,160 Speaker 2: it's showing that they're uncomfortable with money and they lack 569 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 2: a fair bit of respect. So like, to me, that's 570 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 2: a massive red flag. I agree, But when the bill 571 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,920 Speaker 2: comes out, I think being direct is really nice, Like 572 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:22,480 Speaker 2: we're not being unkind, but saying something like oh, hey, 573 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,159 Speaker 2: I'm really happy to take turns like on this, like 574 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:26,959 Speaker 2: if you know that you're dating someone for more than 575 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:31,480 Speaker 2: one date, or just suggesting split it. Yeah, just suggesting 576 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:33,879 Speaker 2: that splitting it, Like I'll go, oh, beck, like we 577 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 2: can totally split this. Let's have a look opens a 578 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 2: conversation about money, which I think is a really good 579 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 2: temperature check on that other person as well, because like 580 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:45,159 Speaker 2: it's very reasonable to split the bill. Yeah, so what 581 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:47,320 Speaker 2: are they going to say, No, Jess, you should pay 582 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:49,640 Speaker 2: for the whole thing on your own. That's not where 583 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 2: that conversation is going to go. They might go, just 584 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:54,399 Speaker 2: don't worry about it, I'll get it this time, and 585 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 2: you go, okay, thank you so much. And like I 586 00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:59,120 Speaker 2: do feel like we shouldn't get in fights in these 587 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:01,760 Speaker 2: situations like no, no, no, no, we'll split I'll do it, 588 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:05,760 Speaker 2: like just graciously accept great, like, thank you so much. 589 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 2: That's very kind of thing I'll get I'll get next. 590 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:11,639 Speaker 2: But I think that starting the conversation with splitting it 591 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:13,960 Speaker 2: gives them the opportunity if they want to be a 592 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 2: bit more traditional or you're feeling like they want to 593 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 2: be a bit more traditional, but like the silence when 594 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:20,440 Speaker 2: Bill comes. 595 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:24,879 Speaker 3: Is awkward, cringing, just thinking about uncomfortable. 596 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:26,919 Speaker 2: Just be ahead of the game. Just go hey, I'm 597 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 2: really happy to split it, or I can get it 598 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:30,119 Speaker 2: this time and you can get next time if you 599 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 2: think there's going to be a next time. But I 600 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:33,960 Speaker 2: would always just default to, hey, I'm really happy to 601 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 2: split it. How would you like to split it? Yeah, 602 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 2: because it might be different, Like there's just so many 603 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:40,680 Speaker 2: semantics here, right, because like I don't know, did you 604 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 2: drink a whole bottle of wine Jess and I had none? 605 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:47,480 Speaker 2: And like what does that look like? Totally so we're reasonable, 606 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 2: I think just operating on it, Hey, let's split it 607 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 2: and then we split it fifty to fifty, even if 608 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 2: it's not a perfect out the wash situation, but if 609 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:58,200 Speaker 2: it's actually completely unequitable, then maybe we go, oh, let's 610 00:27:58,240 --> 00:27:59,879 Speaker 2: just split it up and pay for our parts. 611 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, And if you are expecting someone to pay for 612 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 4: you in that more traditional sense, I would almost try 613 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:09,120 Speaker 4: to find a way to like flirtatiously maybe like preempt 614 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 4: that when you're chatting about like all night, like where 615 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 4: are you going to take me? 616 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 3: To dinner or like some way to kind of like 617 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:15,439 Speaker 3: prem late that. 618 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:18,440 Speaker 2: Expectation to be taken out on a date, not you 619 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 2: are going on a date to get that. 620 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, because I just think like in this day and age, 621 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 4: like I think it's super reasonable to expect to split 622 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 4: the bill. Like I would not be chocked at all 623 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 4: if someone expected that of me. And so if that's 624 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,520 Speaker 4: not the expectation that you want to set, I feel 625 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:33,359 Speaker 4: like the fair thing to do is like give them 626 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:34,119 Speaker 4: a heads up, you know. 627 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:36,440 Speaker 2: We asked the community as well. So first thing I 628 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 2: asked was what would you do if you our community member. 629 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 2: Sixty nine percent of you said, I'd just trust my gut, 630 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 2: which I think is the best thing to do. Twenty 631 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 2: four percent of you said I'd be honest about your 632 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 2: money values upfront, six percent said wait until it's serious 633 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,240 Speaker 2: to worry about it, and then one percent said I'd 634 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 2: try not to be too picky. We then said who 635 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:56,360 Speaker 2: do you think should pay when it comes to early dating? 636 00:28:56,920 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 2: Thirty one percent of you said fifty to fifty twenty 637 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 2: six percent and I didn't think of this the person 638 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 2: who asks for the date. I do quite like that, yep. 639 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 2: Twenty six percent again said take turns, and seventeen percent 640 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 2: said pay for what you ordered, which I think is 641 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 2: absolutely fine, but like I hadn't really thought about though, well, 642 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 2: if I go, hey, Jess, do you want to go 643 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 2: out for dinner with me? Then that's on me. 644 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, And they're like, I'd love to take you 645 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 4: to dinner, Like it's I mean, I love you confident, 646 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 4: you know, But to me that kind of sets that tone. 647 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:32,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh you agree. And I think that's where everyone's 648 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 2: just going to be different about their like dating preferences, 649 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 2: and you're allowed to have dating preference. So we then 650 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 2: asked the community for their two cents. First one said 651 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 2: dating's hard, but so is a relationship where you're not 652 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 2: on the same page. Save yourself the heartbreak and the time. 653 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 2: The next person said, the right person won't make you 654 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:51,480 Speaker 2: feel bad or uncomfortable about your thoughts and beliefs around money. 655 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,479 Speaker 2: Another person said fifty to fifty if you're unsure if 656 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 2: you're going to go on a second date, take turns. 657 00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:00,080 Speaker 2: If so and one pace for dinner, and maybe you 658 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,720 Speaker 2: go somewhere else and you pay for dessert. Another person 659 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,880 Speaker 2: says it's better to be on your own than with 660 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 2: a gross man child. Oh so true. Amen. Next person said, 661 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 2: rules about who pays vary by situations and also culturally, 662 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 2: so maybe ask about it. 663 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:18,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a great get. 664 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 2: Another person said, in my honest opinion, going fifty to 665 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:24,040 Speaker 2: fifty sets you up for an equal partnership later. And 666 00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:26,400 Speaker 2: the last one I'm going to share is the person 667 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 2: you end up with ultimately decides your financial freedom or 668 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:37,680 Speaker 2: your financial stress. Wow, I'll just leave it there anyway, 669 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:39,960 Speaker 2: it has been a very good show. Thanks for hanging 670 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 2: out with me. Now, guess what we're going to go do, 671 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 2: get grilled, and then probably messina. Let's do it. 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