1 00:00:10,204 --> 00:00:13,484 Speaker 1: My Heart podcasts here, more gold one on one point 2 00:00:13,524 --> 00:00:15,204 Speaker 1: seven podcasts. 3 00:00:14,604 --> 00:00:19,244 Speaker 2: Playlists and listen live on the free iHeart app and 4 00:00:19,364 --> 00:00:21,004 Speaker 2: Amanda jam Nation. 5 00:00:21,844 --> 00:00:23,964 Speaker 1: We've given him some headphones and don't it's like a 6 00:00:24,084 --> 00:00:25,044 Speaker 1: rubik q it is. 7 00:00:25,524 --> 00:00:27,924 Speaker 3: Look there you go, I'll look it out, you'll work 8 00:00:28,084 --> 00:00:28,644 Speaker 3: out you've got. 9 00:00:30,804 --> 00:00:33,364 Speaker 4: How is that act as if nothing's happened, and do. 10 00:00:33,364 --> 00:00:36,204 Speaker 1: Your introduction for you know, some people make you feel 11 00:00:36,204 --> 00:00:37,924 Speaker 1: good the second they walk in a room, and Ndou 12 00:00:38,043 --> 00:00:40,804 Speaker 1: is one of these. A comedian and artist, a writer, 13 00:00:40,924 --> 00:00:43,524 Speaker 1: a TV host is privileged to be painted by him. 14 00:00:43,844 --> 00:00:46,164 Speaker 1: He's extraordinary in all those categories and one of the 15 00:00:46,204 --> 00:00:48,324 Speaker 1: nicest blokes you can meet. He's back on the road 16 00:00:48,324 --> 00:00:50,483 Speaker 1: with his live show The Happiest Refugee, which is one 17 00:00:50,484 --> 00:00:53,204 Speaker 1: of Australia's most successful books. By the way, he joins 18 00:00:53,284 --> 00:00:54,644 Speaker 1: us now Undau. 19 00:00:54,484 --> 00:00:55,044 Speaker 2: Hello. 20 00:00:56,364 --> 00:00:57,204 Speaker 3: On the show, guys. 21 00:00:57,244 --> 00:01:00,524 Speaker 4: It is good to see and congratulations. That book is 22 00:01:00,564 --> 00:01:03,444 Speaker 4: so enduring. It's been around for ages, but it's all 23 00:01:03,564 --> 00:01:05,684 Speaker 4: you're winning award. It's getting awards that much. 24 00:01:05,764 --> 00:01:07,964 Speaker 5: Yeah, A great thing for it is it is and 25 00:01:08,244 --> 00:01:10,124 Speaker 5: I'll turn it into a stage show. It's been going 26 00:01:10,164 --> 00:01:11,524 Speaker 5: about fifteen years. It's great. 27 00:01:11,563 --> 00:01:14,684 Speaker 3: I don't have to write another show. We keep selling out. 28 00:01:14,844 --> 00:01:18,443 Speaker 5: But Amanda, you were one on my Armsbrush with fame. 29 00:01:19,124 --> 00:01:21,524 Speaker 5: Oh my god, the ratings were through the roof. One 30 00:01:21,524 --> 00:01:25,124 Speaker 5: of the most popular, most awesome guests we had in 31 00:01:25,164 --> 00:01:26,644 Speaker 5: the whole seven series. 32 00:01:27,004 --> 00:01:28,884 Speaker 1: So lovely of you to say. People still talk to 33 00:01:28,964 --> 00:01:30,324 Speaker 1: me about that. So I think it must be on 34 00:01:30,404 --> 00:01:30,923 Speaker 1: high repeat. 35 00:01:31,044 --> 00:01:32,404 Speaker 4: Where's the painting now? 36 00:01:32,604 --> 00:01:34,604 Speaker 1: Well, you know, I had it on my wall for 37 00:01:34,604 --> 00:01:37,244 Speaker 1: a long time. It's big and it's like Mussolini. The 38 00:01:37,324 --> 00:01:39,723 Speaker 1: eyes followed you around the room, get the kids in check. 39 00:01:40,203 --> 00:01:42,003 Speaker 1: But then it became a bit much, so I've got 40 00:01:42,004 --> 00:01:42,764 Speaker 1: it in the spare room. 41 00:01:42,964 --> 00:01:43,364 Speaker 3: I tell you. 42 00:01:45,124 --> 00:01:47,124 Speaker 5: Like about ten years ago, I went back to Tafe 43 00:01:47,124 --> 00:01:49,844 Speaker 5: to study painting a man and I walk in and 44 00:01:49,884 --> 00:01:51,804 Speaker 5: this guy comes up to me and he goes, you 45 00:01:51,884 --> 00:01:55,684 Speaker 5: look just like Arndeau and I went, yeah, that's because 46 00:01:55,724 --> 00:01:58,604 Speaker 5: I am. And the guy goes, nah, you're not, but geez, 47 00:01:58,604 --> 00:01:59,964 Speaker 5: you look like him and walks off. 48 00:02:00,124 --> 00:02:01,044 Speaker 1: Well he'd no better than you. 49 00:02:01,124 --> 00:02:01,444 Speaker 5: What of it? 50 00:02:02,724 --> 00:02:05,004 Speaker 3: But that it happens in different ways. 51 00:02:05,004 --> 00:02:07,204 Speaker 5: The other day I was walking along and this mom 52 00:02:07,284 --> 00:02:09,364 Speaker 5: comes up to me and she goes, you are one 53 00:02:09,404 --> 00:02:11,364 Speaker 5: of my son's favorite people. In the whole world. Can 54 00:02:11,404 --> 00:02:13,964 Speaker 5: he have your autograph? So I'm signing this autograph for 55 00:02:14,004 --> 00:02:16,004 Speaker 5: this little kid, and the mom looks at me and goes, 56 00:02:16,043 --> 00:02:17,964 Speaker 5: you were by far the best wiggle Ah. 57 00:02:18,444 --> 00:02:21,604 Speaker 3: She thinks, I'm Jeff Jeff seventy. 58 00:02:23,204 --> 00:02:24,883 Speaker 4: All you entertainers look to say. 59 00:02:27,163 --> 00:02:30,244 Speaker 3: You were going to go say something else, James, I. 60 00:02:30,043 --> 00:02:31,684 Speaker 4: Was not going to do that. I don't know. 61 00:02:31,844 --> 00:02:34,204 Speaker 2: Many years ago, when I dabbled in stand up comedy, 62 00:02:34,564 --> 00:02:37,324 Speaker 2: you were the main act when I was at the 63 00:02:37,324 --> 00:02:38,123 Speaker 2: comedy store. 64 00:02:38,764 --> 00:02:40,164 Speaker 4: So this was two thousand. 65 00:02:40,244 --> 00:02:43,883 Speaker 2: My last gig was really successful, but that was the 66 00:02:44,004 --> 00:02:47,644 Speaker 2: night of September eleventh, and then that was it. After that, 67 00:02:47,724 --> 00:02:49,164 Speaker 2: I thought we're all going to war. It's the end 68 00:02:49,163 --> 00:02:50,604 Speaker 2: of the world as we know it. So that was 69 00:02:50,644 --> 00:02:53,764 Speaker 2: the last stand up gig I did. And you've gone 70 00:02:53,764 --> 00:02:55,323 Speaker 2: from strength to strength since. 71 00:02:55,764 --> 00:02:56,644 Speaker 4: As you have. 72 00:02:56,724 --> 00:02:59,883 Speaker 3: Guys. Yeah, it's really great to be back on the show. 73 00:03:00,844 --> 00:03:01,163 Speaker 3: A man. 74 00:03:01,284 --> 00:03:03,964 Speaker 5: My wife's just written a book and she really wants 75 00:03:03,964 --> 00:03:06,724 Speaker 5: me to give it to you please. It's about It's 76 00:03:06,724 --> 00:03:10,804 Speaker 5: about twin, a twin who's investigating her twin sister's death, 77 00:03:11,603 --> 00:03:15,444 Speaker 5: and my wife she has twins in her mum was 78 00:03:15,764 --> 00:03:18,804 Speaker 5: in her thirties. She has this operation because you know, 79 00:03:18,844 --> 00:03:20,924 Speaker 5: this pain in the abdomen turns out to be a 80 00:03:21,043 --> 00:03:23,484 Speaker 5: cyst with a little bit of hair and tooth. And 81 00:03:23,524 --> 00:03:27,604 Speaker 5: it was her twin who wasn't formed. And someone was 82 00:03:27,603 --> 00:03:31,044 Speaker 5: obsessed with twins. Her brother has twins, and I always 83 00:03:31,043 --> 00:03:32,203 Speaker 5: want to be a twin when I was a kid 84 00:03:32,204 --> 00:03:33,763 Speaker 5: because I wanted to know what I look like from 85 00:03:33,803 --> 00:03:34,204 Speaker 5: the back. 86 00:03:35,644 --> 00:03:38,524 Speaker 3: That's my sort of contribution to that for yourself. Yeah, 87 00:03:38,524 --> 00:03:41,364 Speaker 3: but I will give you that bit. I mean, yeah, I. 88 00:03:41,244 --> 00:03:43,564 Speaker 1: Asked you, as you say, you've done this show for 89 00:03:43,644 --> 00:03:46,564 Speaker 1: fifteen years, have you seen a shift in how we 90 00:03:46,604 --> 00:03:50,644 Speaker 1: feel about refugees? Do people treat you differently to the 91 00:03:50,684 --> 00:03:52,724 Speaker 1: way we treat other refugees today? 92 00:03:53,924 --> 00:03:56,523 Speaker 3: Look, I don't know, Amanda, you know, I mean, I 93 00:03:56,604 --> 00:03:59,644 Speaker 3: don't know how. I'm just I just go about, you know, 94 00:03:59,803 --> 00:04:00,204 Speaker 3: being me. 95 00:04:00,363 --> 00:04:04,284 Speaker 5: But I know that, you know, in my childhood, we 96 00:04:04,363 --> 00:04:06,844 Speaker 5: had a lot of support, you know, like turn up 97 00:04:07,084 --> 00:04:09,164 Speaker 5: some he was some nuns from Saint Vinnie's used to 98 00:04:09,204 --> 00:04:11,204 Speaker 5: come and help us out. And so you know, I 99 00:04:11,204 --> 00:04:13,724 Speaker 5: love I love those charities and and yeah, I look, 100 00:04:14,004 --> 00:04:16,724 Speaker 5: I think a little bit of compassion is good. But yeah, 101 00:04:16,764 --> 00:04:19,803 Speaker 5: had had a great childhood with you know, we were poor, 102 00:04:19,844 --> 00:04:22,524 Speaker 5: but it doesn't matter. Lock For like, when I turn ate, 103 00:04:22,604 --> 00:04:25,284 Speaker 5: I wanted I wanted helium balloons for my party, like 104 00:04:25,404 --> 00:04:27,004 Speaker 5: John o haad, you know the ones that float up 105 00:04:27,004 --> 00:04:29,004 Speaker 5: to the ceiling. Yeah, And so I said, Mum, how 106 00:04:29,044 --> 00:04:32,284 Speaker 5: about those? And Mum says they're expensive, aren't But I'll 107 00:04:32,284 --> 00:04:34,444 Speaker 5: see what I can do. So my birthday comes around, 108 00:04:34,804 --> 00:04:37,084 Speaker 5: my mum buys normal balloons, blows them up, stick it 109 00:04:37,124 --> 00:04:39,924 Speaker 5: tapes them to the ceiling. Jonesy and me and my 110 00:04:40,004 --> 00:04:42,404 Speaker 5: mates are doing the high voice thing and we're all 111 00:04:42,404 --> 00:04:43,844 Speaker 5: going your voice. 112 00:04:43,644 --> 00:04:44,564 Speaker 3: Changing though it's not. 113 00:04:45,964 --> 00:04:49,404 Speaker 5: And then one guy goes, this helium smells like spring rolls, guys, 114 00:04:51,484 --> 00:04:53,044 Speaker 5: And I'm there trying to pretend, going. 115 00:04:52,924 --> 00:04:55,484 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it's working for me. You got just aren't 116 00:04:55,524 --> 00:04:58,724 Speaker 3: doing it right. And then one other guy goes, oh, 117 00:04:58,804 --> 00:05:02,604 Speaker 3: yeah it's working now. So you do your best, you know. 118 00:05:02,804 --> 00:05:06,284 Speaker 5: So so I've got nothing to complain about, Just you 119 00:05:06,564 --> 00:05:07,204 Speaker 5: do your best off. 120 00:05:07,244 --> 00:05:11,884 Speaker 3: Sold I was in I was like that one of. 121 00:05:11,844 --> 00:05:14,244 Speaker 5: Those kids that couldn't read or write real well because 122 00:05:14,244 --> 00:05:17,604 Speaker 5: I'd just come over from Vietnam. But you know, the 123 00:05:17,684 --> 00:05:19,803 Speaker 5: teachers help you out and you get better. And now 124 00:05:20,444 --> 00:05:22,684 Speaker 5: I've written. I've written a bunch of kids books. Who's 125 00:05:22,684 --> 00:05:26,164 Speaker 5: sold ten million around the world. Yes, so I'm just 126 00:05:26,204 --> 00:05:29,524 Speaker 5: in the process of turning those books into TV shows 127 00:05:29,524 --> 00:05:34,484 Speaker 5: and movies, and once that is achieved, will be eating 128 00:05:34,524 --> 00:05:35,204 Speaker 5: steak tonight. 129 00:05:35,324 --> 00:05:35,724 Speaker 3: Kids. 130 00:05:36,284 --> 00:05:38,524 Speaker 2: Do you go back to Vietnam for holidays? Because everyone 131 00:05:38,884 --> 00:05:41,004 Speaker 2: I talked to in my circles, they all, you've got 132 00:05:41,004 --> 00:05:43,084 Speaker 2: to go to Vietnam. You will love it there. Yeah, 133 00:05:43,644 --> 00:05:46,244 Speaker 2: you go back. Oh, Vietnam is awesome. Vietnam is awesome. 134 00:05:46,284 --> 00:05:48,364 Speaker 2: Get a beer for about eighty cents. Yeah, you know 135 00:05:48,364 --> 00:05:51,204 Speaker 2: what I mean. And there's a lot of fresh beer. 136 00:05:51,764 --> 00:05:54,004 Speaker 2: I don't want it's breakfast time radio. 137 00:05:54,084 --> 00:05:58,044 Speaker 5: But like you just there's like breweries just like a 138 00:05:58,084 --> 00:05:59,764 Speaker 5: little like a little you know what I mean, And 139 00:05:59,844 --> 00:06:01,724 Speaker 5: you get fresh beer in it's right, you know what 140 00:06:01,764 --> 00:06:04,563 Speaker 5: I mean. It's like eighty cents, so maybe a buck eighty? 141 00:06:04,724 --> 00:06:04,924 Speaker 3: You know. 142 00:06:05,404 --> 00:06:07,004 Speaker 4: Can you still speak Vietnamese? 143 00:06:07,404 --> 00:06:08,324 Speaker 3: I speak, you know. 144 00:06:08,404 --> 00:06:11,644 Speaker 5: The first time I went back there, I'm walking around 145 00:06:11,684 --> 00:06:15,564 Speaker 5: and because I speak the language and I read and write, 146 00:06:16,004 --> 00:06:19,004 Speaker 5: I went and I bought a whole bunch of secondhand 147 00:06:19,044 --> 00:06:22,004 Speaker 5: clothes from the Vietnamese Saint Vinnie's, you know, sort of 148 00:06:22,284 --> 00:06:25,924 Speaker 5: virgin and I walked around like a local and no 149 00:06:26,044 --> 00:06:29,124 Speaker 5: one could tell us from overseas, and I really enjoyed that, 150 00:06:29,244 --> 00:06:30,563 Speaker 5: you know, so I wasn't a tourist. 151 00:06:30,564 --> 00:06:32,404 Speaker 3: I was just like a normal dude. 152 00:06:32,484 --> 00:06:35,803 Speaker 2: Do they pick your Aussie accent though, because you have 153 00:06:35,844 --> 00:06:38,124 Speaker 2: a bit of an accent to you? 154 00:06:38,244 --> 00:06:38,444 Speaker 3: Yeah? 155 00:06:38,524 --> 00:06:42,044 Speaker 5: Yeah, No, I speak Vietnamese in a completely Vietnamese accent, 156 00:06:43,044 --> 00:06:46,404 Speaker 5: and just like I'm pretty good, I'm actually pretty good 157 00:06:46,524 --> 00:06:49,204 Speaker 5: at at accents, right. Yeah, I won't I won't do 158 00:06:49,284 --> 00:06:51,724 Speaker 5: my Indian or anything like that, but yeah, I'm pretty. 159 00:06:51,524 --> 00:06:53,084 Speaker 1: Good kids Vietnam. 160 00:06:55,204 --> 00:06:57,964 Speaker 5: You know, No, they don't. They say, yeah, mom is aussy. 161 00:06:59,284 --> 00:07:03,204 Speaker 5: She's Anglo Australian. Sometimes she jokes that I'm her male lord, 162 00:07:03,204 --> 00:07:05,324 Speaker 5: a husband to that sort of thing, and that my 163 00:07:05,404 --> 00:07:08,284 Speaker 5: head got squashed in the letter box. But you know 164 00:07:08,524 --> 00:07:11,524 Speaker 5: that's just when she's joking. She's mostly lovely. 165 00:07:15,204 --> 00:07:18,004 Speaker 4: Well man, it's always good to talk to you, particular 166 00:07:18,004 --> 00:07:18,764 Speaker 4: to see. 167 00:07:18,524 --> 00:07:22,684 Speaker 1: And there's no Hallmark cards for that. 168 00:07:23,124 --> 00:07:24,964 Speaker 4: It's lucky you got that book. Plugging early. 169 00:07:25,284 --> 00:07:28,324 Speaker 2: The Happiest Refugee is live ahead to ando dot com 170 00:07:28,324 --> 00:07:30,084 Speaker 2: dot are you thank you for joining us. 171 00:07:30,444 --> 00:07:32,444 Speaker 3: Great to be back, so good to see you. 172 00:07:32,444 --> 00:07:33,684 Speaker 1: Guys, you too want thank you