WEBVTT - GUEST: Our John Laws Interview 📻 0:00:03.120 --> 0:00:05.880 This is a very special edition of Talkback Tings. 0:00:05.960 --> 0:00:07.720 Usually we bring you the bits of gold that we 0:00:07.800 --> 0:00:10.520 hear on talkback radio just for your enjoyment. 0:00:10.560 --> 0:00:11.880 But now we've sat. 0:00:11.720 --> 0:00:13.960 Down with one of the people who we've spoken about 0:00:14.000 --> 0:00:17.640 many times behind their back. Yeah, mister John Laws, the 0:00:17.760 --> 0:00:21.040 king of talkback in Australia. You would know him from 0:00:21.079 --> 0:00:22.360 our podcast Open A. 0:00:22.400 --> 0:00:23.040 It's this guy. 0:00:23.600 --> 0:00:29.240 Bring Pikes nurseries what nursery? Pikes? P y k e 0:00:29.640 --> 0:00:34.440 s Hey? Why I kay as in kill hey? 0:00:34.600 --> 0:00:37.000 Why? Okay? 0:00:37.800 --> 0:00:40.600 God? He's good, isn't he. That's classic John Laws. 0:00:40.920 --> 0:00:43.559 And so we got to sit down with him. And 0:00:43.600 --> 0:00:46.480 how that came about was, remember we tried to prank 0:00:46.520 --> 0:00:49.479 call him during one of our Talkback Tings Tugment. 0:00:49.560 --> 0:00:51.519 We got Dit my alter ego to do it. 0:00:51.640 --> 0:00:53.880 Yes, you tried to get through as an old lady 0:00:53.920 --> 0:00:55.960 in disguise, and this is what happened. 0:00:59.320 --> 0:00:59.880 Morning Shirke. 0:01:00.040 --> 0:01:02.120 How are your name dot? 0:01:03.960 --> 0:01:08.960 Excuse that out for me, O T Dot? 0:01:09.040 --> 0:01:15.520 And how old are you? I'm eighty three? What do 0:01:15.600 --> 0:01:16.400 you mean by Mitch? 0:01:17.120 --> 0:01:17.360 Mitch? 0:01:18.520 --> 0:01:21.040 I think No, I don't. 0:01:22.760 --> 0:01:23.880 Put me through to John. 0:01:24.000 --> 0:01:24.400 Please. 0:01:25.200 --> 0:01:27.319 I can't put you through to John. He doesn't like you. 0:01:27.520 --> 0:01:30.440 Hey, Darlin, if we can't get through as dot, can 0:01:30.480 --> 0:01:32.560 you tea up an interview with John Laws and our podcast? 0:01:32.600 --> 0:01:34.280 We'd love to have him. I can give it a 0:01:35.400 --> 0:01:36.039 thanks Darlin. 0:01:36.120 --> 0:01:39.240 All right, you guys, you don't ask, you don't get. 0:01:39.400 --> 0:01:41.800 That's exactly right, and any normal person would just let 0:01:41.800 --> 0:01:45.000 that slide. But because I am Mitchell Kombs the pesky bitch, 0:01:45.680 --> 0:01:46.319 I held the. 0:01:46.280 --> 0:01:47.039 Producer to that. 0:01:47.080 --> 0:01:49.960 And originally all I wanted was a surprise phone call 0:01:50.000 --> 0:01:52.760 for you on your birthday. But apparently what I'm told 0:01:52.960 --> 0:01:56.680 is John listened to our podcast. I suspect someone would 0:01:56.680 --> 0:01:59.160 have played it to him, because hello, he's not gonna 0:01:59.160 --> 0:02:00.840 be able to put on a podcast, no, And he 0:02:00.840 --> 0:02:04.560 heard that Pike's nursery grab that we play in the opener, 0:02:04.880 --> 0:02:07.440 and apparently we passed the vibe check just because of that. 0:02:07.760 --> 0:02:09.480 He just heard that we were using his old audio 0:02:09.520 --> 0:02:11.760 and just went so funny. Yep, bring them in. I 0:02:11.760 --> 0:02:12.920 don't want to talk to them on the phone. 0:02:12.919 --> 0:02:13.360 Bring them in. 0:02:13.360 --> 0:02:15.680 So we have to wait until after lockdown, and so 0:02:15.760 --> 0:02:16.919 it finally happened. 0:02:17.080 --> 0:02:17.240 Oh. 0:02:17.680 --> 0:02:19.920 I just want to preface this by saying I hate awkwardness, 0:02:20.200 --> 0:02:22.080 and I normally have full control in an interview, because 0:02:22.080 --> 0:02:24.240 I do interviews for it at my job, so just 0:02:24.240 --> 0:02:26.040 go in there. I know what I'm doing. But being 0:02:26.480 --> 0:02:28.960 on the other side having John Law sitting there staring 0:02:28.960 --> 0:02:32.440 at you with very very measured breaths and eyeblinks like 0:02:32.480 --> 0:02:35.480 he's in full manual mode, it was really intimidating. 0:02:35.520 --> 0:02:39.640 It was Meanwhile, I love awkwardness. However I hate shit 0:02:39.720 --> 0:02:42.799 audio quality, which is why I was so caught off 0:02:42.800 --> 0:02:45.160 guard when we visited the King of Talkback and they 0:02:45.200 --> 0:02:47.480 said to us, we've only got one guest mark. You'll 0:02:47.480 --> 0:02:48.200 just have to share it. 0:02:48.360 --> 0:02:49.520 You have to lean into the mind. 0:02:49.600 --> 0:02:51.280 Oh yeah, yeah. 0:02:51.080 --> 0:02:52.799 So that's why we found all echoey and shit. I 0:02:52.800 --> 0:02:55.040 feel that that might actually be a tactic from John. 0:02:55.240 --> 0:02:57.000 He just wants everyone to sound a little bit more 0:02:57.000 --> 0:02:57.880 inferior to him. 0:02:58.000 --> 0:03:01.200 Mitch and I were sharing. Look, it was fun, but 0:03:01.240 --> 0:03:01.760 it would. 0:03:01.520 --> 0:03:04.040 Steel an absolute honor. We made that mistake. 0:03:04.120 --> 0:03:06.960 We end up going through his back catalogs of music. 0:03:07.240 --> 0:03:10.520 Yeah, he pulled out his CD. He has bloody music. 0:03:10.560 --> 0:03:13.320 Did you guys know that did legitimately have a stack 0:03:13.320 --> 0:03:13.720 of CD? 0:03:13.840 --> 0:03:14.040 Yeah? 0:03:14.040 --> 0:03:17.440 With all his music, apparently he has many albums, like 0:03:17.480 --> 0:03:18.079 more than ten. 0:03:18.280 --> 0:03:19.920 We almost I think we said at some point, oh, 0:03:20.000 --> 0:03:21.440 can we grab one to play in the podcast, and 0:03:21.520 --> 0:03:22.799 they were not, you can't take these. These are the 0:03:22.800 --> 0:03:23.320 other coffee. 0:03:23.560 --> 0:03:25.280 Yeah, you'll hear it in the internet. 0:03:25.480 --> 0:03:28.120 He had to get his assistant, who was called the 0:03:28.120 --> 0:03:30.480 Mother Superior. She had to bloody burn a CD and 0:03:30.520 --> 0:03:31.280 send it to me later. 0:03:31.360 --> 0:03:32.440 And he didn't play it to us. 0:03:32.480 --> 0:03:37.360 I will say that Jenna and Sam, much to my stress, 0:03:37.400 --> 0:03:39.760 Mitch did ask the question that we ask every guest 0:03:40.480 --> 0:03:42.480 you know eighty how old is John Laws? 0:03:42.560 --> 0:03:43.120 Eighty six? 0:03:43.680 --> 0:03:46.840 Mitchell asked an eighty six year old to add to 0:03:46.880 --> 0:03:50.640 our list of things better than drugs, and Dick. 0:03:50.720 --> 0:03:53.320 I did no. Why would I break the rules for him? 0:03:53.320 --> 0:03:54.200 I asked every guest. 0:03:54.400 --> 0:03:56.840 I also offered him of abe like I wasn't there, 0:03:57.360 --> 0:03:58.480 John and I would just vibe me. 0:03:58.920 --> 0:04:02.480 Mitch, Mitch, I had to kill John Laws. You weren't 0:04:02.520 --> 0:04:05.120 light g eyes, Jay, Yeah. 0:04:04.960 --> 0:04:06.920 Like you know how I felt like a fly in 0:04:06.960 --> 0:04:09.400 the wall during that tivert As interview because he couldn't 0:04:09.400 --> 0:04:11.800 stand me opposite John and I were vibing. 0:04:12.120 --> 0:04:13.360 Mitch thought that he hated him. 0:04:13.360 --> 0:04:17.159 Mitch vibes with wide misogynistic men, and I vibe with young. 0:04:19.480 --> 0:04:23.400 Godsly men. We also spoke about that Awardi one recently. 0:04:23.440 --> 0:04:24.440 You know what was it again, the. 0:04:24.400 --> 0:04:25.760 Kennedy Ward lifetime achievement. 0:04:25.839 --> 0:04:26.760 Yeah, it was quite sad. 0:04:26.760 --> 0:04:28.440 He gave his speech about how he lost his wife 0:04:28.520 --> 0:04:30.120 Caroline on stage. 0:04:29.839 --> 0:04:31.440 And a good friend, a good media friend that was 0:04:31.480 --> 0:04:33.800 in the industry for years. Look, it was a really 0:04:33.800 --> 0:04:35.280 long chat. It was an enjoyable chat. 0:04:35.320 --> 0:04:37.839 Towards the end, like maybe the last three minutes is 0:04:37.880 --> 0:04:40.440 when he was trying to make it awkward on purpose. 0:04:40.480 --> 0:04:42.800 And I loved it because I love that shit. But 0:04:42.800 --> 0:04:43.920 you were just like panicking. 0:04:44.080 --> 0:04:45.440 Oh, I hated I didn't know what was going on. 0:04:45.560 --> 0:04:47.360 There was sometimes I thought I'd really offended him, but 0:04:47.440 --> 0:04:50.440 Mitch assured me that that's his sarcasm, any sense of humor, 0:04:50.640 --> 0:04:53.600 which for anyone else and he sprightly thirty year old, 0:04:53.640 --> 0:04:55.560 there'd be a beat and they'd go, no, just pull 0:04:55.560 --> 0:04:57.280 on your leg. But there were many beats. 0:04:57.360 --> 0:04:59.360 You clearly aren't as much of a diehard laws and 0:04:59.400 --> 0:05:01.839 Ada as I lovely later. 0:05:02.320 --> 0:05:04.600 Yeah, no, I'm not T shirt. 0:05:04.640 --> 0:05:07.200 I'm more of a Johnson. That's Alan Johns team. 0:05:07.480 --> 0:05:10.600 Right. Anyway, without further ado here it is, I'll sit 0:05:10.640 --> 0:05:11.880 down with John Laws. 0:05:18.880 --> 0:05:27.679 Hollow World. I'm John Laws, John Laws. 0:05:28.360 --> 0:05:29.800 Yeah, Nate, how are you welcome to the show? 0:05:29.960 --> 0:05:30.640 The Bigger pardon? 0:05:30.680 --> 0:05:32.240 Welcome to the show. It's great to have you here. 0:05:32.240 --> 0:05:34.240 It's my show, our show. 0:05:34.920 --> 0:05:36.400 You're on our show, we're on yours. 0:05:36.960 --> 0:05:39.200 I mean you're welcome to No. No, that's one of 0:05:39.200 --> 0:05:42.680 the rules. This always remains the John Lord Show. Okay, 0:05:43.000 --> 0:05:46.320 you're a visitor and you're very welcome you, but it's 0:05:46.600 --> 0:05:48.360 the John Lord Show. If you could keep that in mind, 0:05:48.400 --> 0:05:49.680 I'd be extremely grateful. 0:05:49.720 --> 0:05:50.240 Got it on it. 0:05:50.320 --> 0:05:53.920 Well, we're actually here in the fortress, so this is 0:05:53.960 --> 0:05:57.839 your territory. What was your useless piece of information for today? 0:05:57.760 --> 0:05:59.080 They don't every show. 0:05:59.080 --> 0:06:00.960 How could I remember three hours ago? Oh? 0:06:01.000 --> 0:06:02.640 Really? You just scrunch it up, get rid of it. 0:06:02.680 --> 0:06:04.120 Well, you've got to listen if you want to hear 0:06:04.160 --> 0:06:07.719 the useless information. Now, what are you charming people doing 0:06:07.760 --> 0:06:08.719 here in my studio? 0:06:09.040 --> 0:06:11.719 Well, we're big fans, John, We've been We've been in 0:06:11.760 --> 0:06:15.040 the industry for six years, five years, so a little 0:06:15.320 --> 0:06:18.159 dot compared to yours. Yeah, we're die hard fans. We 0:06:18.240 --> 0:06:22.040 work inside Kiss so alongside Kyle Sandalans, who you know, 0:06:22.720 --> 0:06:25.080 really takes a lot of his inspiration from you. 0:06:25.160 --> 0:06:26.240 Oh he does, doesn't. 0:06:26.000 --> 0:06:29.520 He He's taken everything from me, everything, the mic, a 0:06:29.600 --> 0:06:33.279 gold microphone, the headphones, the rolls, Royce car, the lot, 0:06:33.720 --> 0:06:37.719 the lot. He hasn't got a single genuine original thought. 0:06:38.080 --> 0:06:39.080 And he's rather lovely. 0:06:39.360 --> 0:06:40.400 Are you're a fan of Kyle? 0:06:40.960 --> 0:06:44.400 I like him. I like Kyle. Don't underestimate Kyle's pretty bright. 0:06:45.080 --> 0:06:46.080 He's good at what he does. 0:06:46.360 --> 0:06:48.840 They've been chatting a lot on Kyle and Jackie I 0:06:48.839 --> 0:06:51.960 Show recently about the fact that a lot of people 0:06:52.400 --> 0:06:54.800 suspect that Kyle could be secretly gay. 0:06:54.960 --> 0:06:56.120 What do he means secretly? 0:06:57.800 --> 0:06:59.880 They were telling him that you do come across that 0:07:00.200 --> 0:07:02.440 at a glance, some people might suspect that you're gay. 0:07:03.000 --> 0:07:03.960 What do you think of that? 0:07:04.120 --> 0:07:06.520 I don't think so, And it wouldn't matter if he was. 0:07:08.000 --> 0:07:10.880 I like Kyle. I get on very well with Kyle. 0:07:11.320 --> 0:07:14.480 He and I are friends. Yeah, yeah, you know, you've 0:07:14.480 --> 0:07:17.520 got to be careful. That probably was a sweeping statement, 0:07:17.800 --> 0:07:20.600 but yes, we're kind of friends. Am I having lunch 0:07:20.640 --> 0:07:24.200 with Kyle or something? Soon? We the to organize that. 0:07:24.280 --> 0:07:27.000 I like having lunch with it. I find him music 0:07:27.040 --> 0:07:29.440 and I find him also a very genuine bloke. I 0:07:29.480 --> 0:07:31.160 think if you were in trouble, you could turn to 0:07:31.240 --> 0:07:33.800 Kyle and he'd do his best. It mightn't be very good, 0:07:33.880 --> 0:07:34.720 but he'd do his best. 0:07:34.760 --> 0:07:35.520 I think so too. 0:07:35.600 --> 0:07:38.520 Yeah, have you had a long lunch with Kyle recently? 0:07:38.720 --> 0:07:39.560 I have prad a you? 0:07:39.800 --> 0:07:42.080 How long are the long lunches by the way? 0:07:43.360 --> 0:07:47.760 Nine or ten hours? God, jeez, that's a lie. Probably thirteen. 0:07:47.880 --> 0:07:50.800 Do you drink of these long lunches? You drinking these days? 0:07:51.960 --> 0:07:52.240 Am I? 0:07:52.400 --> 0:07:55.040 What drinking? Like? You have a wine drinking? 0:07:55.680 --> 0:07:59.120 Jesus is the Pope praying? Of course? Do you know? 0:07:59.200 --> 0:08:01.960 One thing that Kyle claims as he's big claim to 0:08:01.960 --> 0:08:04.920 fame is that his first radio gig was paneling your 0:08:04.960 --> 0:08:07.600 show in Townville or something. 0:08:08.000 --> 0:08:08.840 That's also my. 0:08:08.920 --> 0:08:12.040 Claim two PK in Parks when I was doing work experience, 0:08:12.120 --> 0:08:14.000 I had to make sure the ads for John Laws 0:08:14.000 --> 0:08:15.320 were playing in time all of that. 0:08:15.680 --> 0:08:18.760 So that was my two PK with Betty Muzzy Chuk, 0:08:19.160 --> 0:08:23.000 who don't you remember Betty? The Spicer family owned two 0:08:23.040 --> 0:08:28.520 PK oh Okay and the daughter or step daughter or 0:08:29.160 --> 0:08:32.280 daughter in law or somebody. Her name was Betty Muzzy 0:08:32.400 --> 0:08:36.560 Chuck and she ran the station when I was only 0:08:36.559 --> 0:08:37.160 there one night. 0:08:37.200 --> 0:08:38.760 I hated you worked at two pik. 0:08:39.000 --> 0:08:40.640 Yeah, I did one night for one night. 0:08:40.679 --> 0:08:41.240 What happened? 0:08:41.840 --> 0:08:43.160 They wouldn't let me smoke. 0:08:43.840 --> 0:08:44.480 In the studio. 0:08:45.360 --> 0:08:46.280 How long ago was that? 0:08:47.280 --> 0:08:50.920 Nineteen fifty four? Probably? 0:08:51.000 --> 0:08:52.880 Okay, do you still smoke or if you quit? 0:08:53.120 --> 0:08:54.120 Oh? No, I quit ages? 0:08:54.480 --> 0:08:56.200 Okay? Would you like to try a vape? 0:08:57.559 --> 0:09:00.520 That's bloody stupid looked on the vabes. 0:09:00.720 --> 0:09:01.600 No, I'm quitting. 0:09:02.280 --> 0:09:03.200 Is it difficult to quit? 0:09:03.320 --> 0:09:03.360 What? 0:09:04.120 --> 0:09:07.320 Why would you take up something that is difficult to quit? Well, 0:09:07.880 --> 0:09:10.319 I think for people, I'll tell you why. Yeah, because 0:09:10.320 --> 0:09:11.280 you're young and stupid. 0:09:11.400 --> 0:09:15.000 No, I can't argue with that. Actually that's completely fair. 0:09:15.040 --> 0:09:17.760 But yeah, I always tell people don't start them because 0:09:17.760 --> 0:09:20.320 they're way easier to get hooked on than cigarettes. There's 0:09:20.360 --> 0:09:24.280 no this tastes gross to overcome. They're just pleasant from 0:09:24.280 --> 0:09:26.760 the get go, So don't go there. It's always my advice. 0:09:27.040 --> 0:09:29.200 Yeah, Well, you're giving very good advice. 0:09:29.320 --> 0:09:30.640 Yeah, do as I say, not as I do. 0:09:30.880 --> 0:09:33.640 You're maturing at an early age. You're giving very good advice. 0:09:33.960 --> 0:09:36.280 Don't do it if it's going to be addictive and expensive. 0:09:36.480 --> 0:09:40.560 Good advice that includes marriage, unless you're very careful, Ah, John. 0:09:40.360 --> 0:09:42.240 I I was listening to your speech on the way 0:09:42.240 --> 0:09:44.200 here and I saw it live at the Kennedy Awards 0:09:44.240 --> 0:09:47.360 the other night, Lifetime Achievement Award, which congratulations. By the way, 0:09:47.360 --> 0:09:48.479 that's very exciting. 0:09:48.120 --> 0:09:48.440 Thank you. 0:09:48.880 --> 0:09:50.120 I just love my life. 0:09:51.040 --> 0:09:58.360 I haven't made the best, particularly I lost Ryan, but 0:09:58.520 --> 0:10:07.120 I also must my adorable Caroline, who was fifteen years 0:10:07.160 --> 0:10:10.079 old and she's gone. 0:10:09.800 --> 0:10:11.640 Out of my life. 0:10:12.480 --> 0:10:15.920 That makes me say. And in case of there's a 0:10:16.000 --> 0:10:18.880 kind of big indiference, and you are very very much. 0:10:20.760 --> 0:10:23.160 You said that you didn't intend to get into broadcasting, 0:10:23.600 --> 0:10:25.320 so I guess I want to know how did you 0:10:25.360 --> 0:10:26.040 fall into it? 0:10:26.840 --> 0:10:32.600 Well? I was a jackaroo in Wellington in central New 0:10:32.640 --> 0:10:37.040 South Wales and I love being a jackeroo. I love. 0:10:37.280 --> 0:10:39.240 I would love to be a jackaroo again, but I 0:10:39.240 --> 0:10:42.360 can't afford it. But I used to. I used to 0:10:42.600 --> 0:10:46.040 go to the Legacy Ball and the Bachelor's Ball and 0:10:46.080 --> 0:10:49.199 the Spinster's Ball, and they used to get me to 0:10:49.600 --> 0:10:53.240 do a commentary, you know, to introduce people as they 0:10:53.240 --> 0:10:56.080 came in the door. And there was a man there 0:10:56.640 --> 0:11:00.000 from a w A which we were at that time. 0:11:00.040 --> 0:11:02.520 I was a huge conglomerate of radio stations all over 0:11:03.040 --> 0:11:06.719 Australia and he heard me and he asked me, did 0:11:06.720 --> 0:11:09.480 I want to get into into radio? And I wasn't sure. 0:11:09.920 --> 0:11:12.600 But the man I was working for, a wonderful welsman 0:11:12.679 --> 0:11:15.520 by the name of Llewellyn Powell, he thought it would 0:11:15.520 --> 0:11:17.280 be a pretty good idea if I were to do that, 0:11:17.600 --> 0:11:20.800 it would get me off his property and get me 0:11:20.920 --> 0:11:23.720 somewhere else. So I just fell into it that way. 0:11:23.960 --> 0:11:26.280 And loved it, fell in love with it clearly. Yeah, 0:11:26.360 --> 0:11:27.880 how long have you been doing it now? Because I 0:11:27.920 --> 0:11:32.640 thought I could google sixty eight years eight far out? 0:11:32.760 --> 0:11:34.199 I think it's said sixty eight. 0:11:35.679 --> 0:11:36.280 Sixty eight? 0:11:36.360 --> 0:11:42.040 Yeah? Are you taking notes there? I chose you. It 0:11:42.160 --> 0:11:47.800 just shows you how involved that's the Mother Siberia. I'm 0:11:47.840 --> 0:11:50.800 doing a very important interview with two very important young 0:11:50.880 --> 0:11:53.240 men and she's doing a bloody crosswork. 0:11:54.160 --> 0:11:56.319 Jesus, it's so nice to put a face to the 0:11:56.400 --> 0:11:58.840 name the Mother Supirior I here referred to all. 0:11:58.720 --> 0:11:59.640 The time on the show. 0:12:00.440 --> 0:12:01.280 Are you impressed? 0:12:01.440 --> 0:12:04.320 I am, absolutely. She's pretty much what I envisioned. 0:12:04.360 --> 0:12:06.160 Actually, yeah, is she really? Yeah? 0:12:06.200 --> 0:12:07.920 Well, she gave us a talking to before we came in. 0:12:08.000 --> 0:12:09.480 She said, you're up to no good, you're going to 0:12:09.520 --> 0:12:10.800 be good, and we said, yeah, we'll be right, we're 0:12:10.800 --> 0:12:11.640 on our best behavior. 0:12:11.760 --> 0:12:13.000 Yeah, well that's the way to be. 0:12:13.160 --> 0:12:13.840 Yeah, that's right. 0:12:13.920 --> 0:12:15.840 All right, So what else do you want to talk about? 0:12:16.080 --> 0:12:17.600 Well, I should have given you heads up before we 0:12:17.640 --> 0:12:19.600 started that on the podcast. I don't know if you're 0:12:19.760 --> 0:12:22.520 much of a swearer, but you're allowed to swear here? 0:12:22.559 --> 0:12:23.400 Do you swear much? 0:12:24.280 --> 0:12:29.440 Don't be fucking stupid? But that word has become almost 0:12:29.480 --> 0:12:32.160 acceptable now except around here is she hates it. 0:12:32.400 --> 0:12:33.599 The Mother Superior hates that. 0:12:33.840 --> 0:12:35.199 Doesn't like me swearing at all. 0:12:35.600 --> 0:12:38.400 Would the Mother Superior appreciate being described as a boss bitch? 0:12:38.400 --> 0:12:40.440 Because that's what I would think, the Mother Superior is 0:12:40.800 --> 0:12:42.240 a What a boss bitch? 0:12:42.960 --> 0:12:43.600 What's that mean? 0:12:43.679 --> 0:12:46.040 It's a wonderful term, don't worry, powerful woman. 0:12:46.160 --> 0:12:48.480 Yeah, but it's the word bitch there. 0:12:48.520 --> 0:12:49.640 It's a term of endearment. 0:12:49.720 --> 0:12:52.079 It's all about context, you know, back and empowering. 0:12:52.480 --> 0:12:53.840 Don't don't use that word. 0:12:53.960 --> 0:12:56.400 My apologies, I take it back, Mother Superior, take advance. 0:12:57.200 --> 0:12:59.800 Now sixty eight years you said, what's your advice for 0:13:00.240 --> 0:13:02.560 like Mitch to last that long in radio? 0:13:02.920 --> 0:13:04.079 It's been seven so far. 0:13:04.679 --> 0:13:10.960 My advice to Mitch give it away. Really yeah, get out, 0:13:11.160 --> 0:13:13.479 get a job as a salesman at Bunnings. 0:13:13.760 --> 0:13:14.120 Yeah. 0:13:14.320 --> 0:13:17.880 No, no, I'll give you very good advice. Enjoy it. 0:13:18.000 --> 0:13:19.920 If you enjoy it, do it. If you don't enjoy it, 0:13:19.960 --> 0:13:25.000 don't do it. And be natural, don't bullshit. No change 0:13:25.040 --> 0:13:27.320 of voice, no change of attitude. 0:13:28.120 --> 0:13:30.199 Just got to be you authentic. 0:13:30.480 --> 0:13:32.760 Yeah that's well. I don't know how authentic you are, 0:13:32.920 --> 0:13:34.880 but yeah, just be yourself. 0:13:34.960 --> 0:13:36.960 In other words, now, what happened in the middle because 0:13:36.960 --> 0:13:38.920 you left for a bit, you had big retirement, you 0:13:38.960 --> 0:13:41.679 were out, and then you came back. Yeah, you missed 0:13:41.679 --> 0:13:42.240 it too much. 0:13:42.400 --> 0:13:45.120 I did miss it. I missed it greatly, and I 0:13:45.160 --> 0:13:48.400 got very bored with my own company, even though up 0:13:48.480 --> 0:13:50.959 until that time I'd been pretty good with my own company. 0:13:51.000 --> 0:13:54.280 I love reading, I love sitting by myself, I love thinking. 0:13:55.120 --> 0:13:57.480 But I did get bored. I did get bored, and 0:13:57.520 --> 0:13:59.360 I thought, you know, it would be fun to go 0:13:59.400 --> 0:14:01.640 and do it again. And it's more fun the second 0:14:01.640 --> 0:14:03.200 time around than it was the first time. 0:14:03.480 --> 0:14:05.320 Really yeah, fell back in love with it. 0:14:05.559 --> 0:14:06.720 Yeah, oh no, better. 0:14:06.760 --> 0:14:10.640 Now we like to play on our podcast some bits 0:14:10.640 --> 0:14:13.120 of gold that happened on talkback radio because we figured 0:14:13.120 --> 0:14:16.440 that our younger listeners might not be listening as often 0:14:16.480 --> 0:14:17.120 as we are, so. 0:14:17.080 --> 0:14:19.360 We're like, if anything good happens, we'll tell you. 0:14:19.760 --> 0:14:23.160 And you've come up many times, including the infamous Pike's 0:14:23.240 --> 0:14:24.920 Nursery incident. 0:14:25.000 --> 0:14:28.360 That call. I really want to hear from your point 0:14:28.400 --> 0:14:28.760 of view. 0:14:28.800 --> 0:14:31.880 What were you thinking? What were you feeling when that call? 0:14:31.960 --> 0:14:34.200 I just could not understand what you were saying. 0:14:34.560 --> 0:14:38.720 Well, I thought this is going to go on forever, 0:14:39.600 --> 0:14:41.720 but then I thought this could be very good radio. 0:14:43.080 --> 0:14:47.440 So I decided to stay with it, and she started 0:14:47.440 --> 0:14:50.720 to understand the humor. As we got towards the end 0:14:50.760 --> 0:14:51.960 of the conversation. 0:14:51.760 --> 0:14:53.320 You reckon that she was in on it too. 0:14:53.400 --> 0:14:55.760 After no, no, not in on it, But I think 0:14:55.800 --> 0:14:58.960 she started to understand the humor of it. She wasn't 0:14:59.000 --> 0:15:02.400 going along with a deliberate she was laughing at herself. 0:15:02.960 --> 0:15:04.960 It was a good call. It was a fun call. 0:15:05.080 --> 0:15:07.400 Yeah, definitely, And it lives on in our podcast as well. 0:15:07.560 --> 0:15:09.640 So at the start of every show, we play the audio. 0:15:09.680 --> 0:15:11.320 That's how we start our show every week. 0:15:11.360 --> 0:15:13.160 You didn't even ask it's on YouTube? 0:15:13.200 --> 0:15:13.760 Did you know that? 0:15:14.320 --> 0:15:17.239 I don't go to that. I think I can't work computers. 0:15:17.400 --> 0:15:19.720 Oh well, you're paddling your show right now, aren't you. 0:15:19.720 --> 0:15:21.240 You've got some sort of understanding. 0:15:21.480 --> 0:15:24.720 That's just a board that's got stuff on it, like 0:15:24.800 --> 0:15:31.240 Tom t or bit of music. Here, there you are. 0:15:31.320 --> 0:15:32.360 That's how simple it is. 0:15:32.560 --> 0:15:34.800 Well, who says you can't work at a computer? There 0:15:34.840 --> 0:15:35.080 you go? 0:15:35.680 --> 0:15:37.120 Yeah? 0:15:37.320 --> 0:15:41.120 Is it just when podcast by a couple of mitches. 0:15:41.520 --> 0:15:43.840 I don't suppose you're ever going to get to that 0:15:43.920 --> 0:15:46.680 stage where, like a lot of other radio studios, like 0:15:46.720 --> 0:15:48.200 a Kiss, you'll have cameras in. 0:15:48.120 --> 0:15:49.000 The room filming it. 0:15:49.840 --> 0:15:52.280 They never you don't want stuff on Facebook or. 0:15:52.360 --> 0:15:54.360 Of course I don't. Of course I don't. I do 0:15:54.440 --> 0:15:57.800 a radio program and I'm a radio broadcaster and that 0:15:57.920 --> 0:15:59.120 is the limit of my talent. 0:15:59.600 --> 0:16:01.240 Yeah, how else do you listen to? John? Do you 0:16:01.320 --> 0:16:03.040 have any other shows that you listen to? Or do 0:16:03.080 --> 0:16:03.360 you just? 0:16:03.640 --> 0:16:05.760 Do you know what I listened to as soon as 0:16:05.800 --> 0:16:09.280 I leave here, Yeah, midday or whenever I leave in 0:16:10.360 --> 0:16:14.680 ABC Classic. Really, I love classical music, and they pay 0:16:14.720 --> 0:16:17.200 a lot of light classical music. They play a lot 0:16:17.200 --> 0:16:19.440 of ballet music, and I love ballet music. I love 0:16:19.480 --> 0:16:23.080 the ballet. So there you are. That's surprised you. 0:16:23.120 --> 0:16:23.920 Have you ever podcasting? 0:16:24.000 --> 0:16:24.280 Have you ever? 0:16:24.440 --> 0:16:26.080 You know how to listen to podcasts? You into them? 0:16:26.160 --> 0:16:27.440 No, I don't know how to do that. 0:16:27.680 --> 0:16:29.720 You'd make a killing. Do you think a podcast by 0:16:29.760 --> 0:16:31.440 John Laws would be huge? 0:16:31.560 --> 0:16:33.760 Does he know that his show is podcasts and every 0:16:33.800 --> 0:16:35.920 day you actually can listen to it as a podcast 0:16:35.920 --> 0:16:37.120 and podcast you've got one? 0:16:37.160 --> 0:16:38.640 Yeah, I don't know what it is even. 0:16:38.960 --> 0:16:42.720 You know how Netflix is TV shows on demand, podcasts 0:16:42.760 --> 0:16:45.360 or radio shows on demand. That's pretty much the basic 0:16:45.360 --> 0:16:47.360 way of explaining it. And that's what we are. Like. 0:16:47.400 --> 0:16:49.240 You can't tune in at a certain time twice, We're 0:16:49.280 --> 0:16:51.000 just there whenever you're like not live. 0:16:51.120 --> 0:16:54.320 No, well it can't be live. Are you bored now? 0:16:54.560 --> 0:16:55.240 No, not at all. 0:16:55.320 --> 0:16:56.000