1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: This is jam nation with Jonesy and Amanda. 2 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 2: Let's get on down to the Jonesy demand of arms 3 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 2: for the pub test. Men paying for the first date? 4 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 2: Does it pass the pub test? 5 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:11,960 Speaker 3: A divorce lawyer has waiting on this, and he said 6 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 3: men should pay for the first date. He said that that, 7 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:17,600 Speaker 3: in a way, can set some boundaries for a relationship. 8 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 3: If the person who is on the date with you, you 9 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 3: offer to pay as a man, and if they go yes, 10 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 3: and they have a sense of entitlement, then be warned. 11 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:30,640 Speaker 3: If they say, oh, let me go halves, Oh that's 12 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 3: very kind of you, and they're appreciative, then that tells 13 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 3: you something else about it. 14 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 1: It's a bit of a litmanust test, litmus test. 15 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 2: You're out there, you do the thing, and you think 16 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:41,240 Speaker 2: of she's a big entitled person, then maybe I don't 17 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 2: want to marry this girl. 18 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:45,840 Speaker 3: In the old days, it seemed that men were expected 19 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 3: to pay. 20 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:47,160 Speaker 1: We were expected to pay. 21 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:49,520 Speaker 3: It's not the same now. Women have their own money. 22 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 3: Women don't want to be beholden, women want to contribute. 23 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 3: It does set a precedent. 24 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 1: Does when you and I go out to eat, we go, well, you. 25 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 3: Pay one day and I'll pay the other fifty. 26 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 2: Although sometimes we'll had a really expensive place and I'll pay, 27 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 2: and then we go to the two minuted porium and you. 28 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:05,399 Speaker 1: Go, I'll pay. I'll get this one. 29 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:08,400 Speaker 3: You are talking out of your bot pot when we're 30 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 3: ever going to an expensive place. All right, Well, men 31 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:14,119 Speaker 3: paying on the first date? Does it pass the pub test? 32 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 4: I feel like to be old school for men to pay, 33 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 4: because we're kind of trying to move towards, you know, 34 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 4: a quality for everyone and whatnot. It's a hard one. Yeah, definitely. 35 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 4: I think men definitely have to pay on the first date. 36 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 4: Or I've never been invited on a gate, but anytime 37 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 4: I invited someone to come on a gate, I paid. 38 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 4: If I invite someone to come to dinner at my home, 39 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:40,959 Speaker 4: I provide the food if I'm the invited or it's 40 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 4: part of the contract I'm saying when I'm inviting you 41 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:47,199 Speaker 4: out to dinner, therefore I'm going to pay. I think 42 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 4: that they should. My husband paid on a first date 43 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 4: and then he got a second and now we're marriage 44 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 4: worked out worked out for. 45 00:01:57,120 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 3: Using the guys saying that it's if I invite. 46 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 1: You, that's true to the inviter, it's true. 47 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 3: That makes sense. But then you go back to the 48 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 3: old trope of women are uncomfortable inviting a man out. 49 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 3: So how does that work? 50 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 1: How does it work? 51 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:12,919 Speaker 3: Interesting times? 52 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:14,799 Speaker 1: I have to see if a woman asked me out, 53 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 1: then what we can probably do. This isn't going on. 54 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:19,839 Speaker 3: You've mentioned a few times about when you're talking about 55 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 3: Johnny Depp and Amber heard about her being twenty five 56 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 3: when they first met, and you've mentioned a couple of times, 57 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 3: but you have a twenty five old girlfriend. 58 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 1: What's the matter with you? And you've said, what do 59 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 1: you know? 60 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 3: I'm just wondering, what's why? 61 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:35,360 Speaker 1: I was just talking about Johnny Depp? 62 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:37,519 Speaker 2: And this is you know, and we don't have any 63 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 2: time to go into this now, but you we're just 64 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:42,360 Speaker 2: talking about Johnny Depp just wants to sleep, you know. 65 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:44,080 Speaker 1: And that's I said, that's the problem. 66 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 2: When you have a young girlfriend, you just want to 67 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:48,639 Speaker 2: I don't want I don't want a young girlfriend. 68 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 1: Okay, I've got to love enough millennials in my house. 69 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 1: I know how they operate. Okay. 70 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 2: I don't want you to pay for all of them. 71 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 2: I'm paying for all them. I don't need it. I'm 72 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 2: just saying I haven't been out there. I've got no idea, 73 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:02,080 Speaker 2: all right, Well, so don't be threatened. I'm not going 74 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 2: to run off with a twenty five year old. 75 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 3: I'm certainly not threatened. Brennan, it's quite right.