WEBVTT - Why EVERYONE needs a pelvic floor exercise routine 🏋️‍♀️

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't think it had come as any surprise

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<v Speaker 1>that I love the health and fitness industry and it's

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<v Speaker 1>been an enormous part of my life for over two decades.

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<v Speaker 2>But one thing that I hate, and I.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't use that word lightly, is just how prominent this

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<v Speaker 1>diet culture has become in the health space when most

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<v Speaker 1>of these diets, if not all of them, are anything

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<v Speaker 1>but healthy. From talking to so many people, I understand

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<v Speaker 1>why it is so confusing to figure out what's healthy

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<v Speaker 1>and what's not, And I feel like it's really important.

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<v Speaker 1>It's part of my responsibility that I answer questions like

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<v Speaker 1>this for you.

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<v Speaker 3>I'd be very interested to see what your thoughts are

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<v Speaker 3>on keto.

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<v Speaker 4>Just wondering your thoughts on juice cleanses. Do you view

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<v Speaker 4>them as a fad diet, a good way to de tops,

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<v Speaker 4>or a good way to strip f.

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<v Speaker 1>Our favorite nutrition as Shanna will be in a little

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<v Speaker 1>later on to help me answer these questions. But first,

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<v Speaker 1>pelvic flaw? What is it and who does it impact?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it just pregnant women or old men or is

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<v Speaker 1>it something.

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<v Speaker 2>That we should all know about? Well?

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<v Speaker 1>With Sess and I expecting our fourth daughter only a

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<v Speaker 1>few weeks away. I thought it was the perfect time

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<v Speaker 1>to chat to a good friend of mine about pelvic

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<v Speaker 1>floor fitness and exercise during pregnancy and postpartum. So if

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<v Speaker 1>you're expecting, or you have a partner a friend that's expecting,

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<v Speaker 1>or you've recently given birth and you want some tips

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<v Speaker 1>that you're going to help make sure you stick around.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so excited that we are joined now by not

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<v Speaker 1>only someone who is a wonderful friend of mine, but

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<v Speaker 1>she is a physiotherapist, women's health experts specializing in pregnancy,

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<v Speaker 1>post natal and pelvic floor and owner of the wonderful

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<v Speaker 1>fit to Deliver Pilarate Shidio just for women pregnant or

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<v Speaker 1>post natal. And my great friend Chloe law Back, Welcome

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<v Speaker 1>to the WOODLFE.

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<v Speaker 5>Great to be here. How exciting.

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<v Speaker 1>There's so many things I want to talk to you about.

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<v Speaker 1>I think let's jump straight into it because the question

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<v Speaker 1>that you probably get the most is should you exercise

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<v Speaker 1>while you are pregnant?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 5>What a ripper question to start us off. Absolutely, yes,

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<v Speaker 5>you should exercise when you're pregnant, provided there are no

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<v Speaker 5>contra indications, and in actual fact, the contra indications are

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<v Speaker 5>things like extremely high blood pressure, or pre existing medical stuff,

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<v Speaker 5>which is actually pretty rare. So provided that you're fit

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<v Speaker 5>and healthy, which ninety five or ninety eight percent of

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<v Speaker 5>pregnant women are, yes, you should be exercising. And the

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<v Speaker 5>guidelines for the amount of exercise you do and the

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<v Speaker 5>intensity are the same as for everyday Australians, So we

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<v Speaker 5>should be doing one hundred and fifty minutes a week

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<v Speaker 5>of moderate intensity exercise, so that's about half an hour

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<v Speaker 5>a day, and that's going to just lead to so

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<v Speaker 5>many benefits, not only during pregnancy for the mum, but

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<v Speaker 5>also for the bub which is really great. You're setting

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<v Speaker 5>yourself up for great success and ultimately optimizing your recovery

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<v Speaker 5>after you've had the baby, but you're also giving your

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<v Speaker 5>bubba the best start in life that you can, which

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<v Speaker 5>is one of the coolest things I think you can do.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think there's a woman out there who would

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<v Speaker 1>be listening to this who's either about to go through

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<v Speaker 1>pregnancy or perhaps has that wouldn't be.

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<v Speaker 2>Nodding along going well.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't need any more reasons than that totally. There

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<v Speaker 1>still is a little bit of a funny stigma attached

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<v Speaker 1>to pregnant women exercising isn't.

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<v Speaker 5>There totally absolutely, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Why why do you think that is?

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<v Speaker 2>Well?

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<v Speaker 5>I think because in the olden days, people used to

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<v Speaker 5>like to wrap pregnant women up in cotton wool, and

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<v Speaker 5>the advice, probably thirty five forty years ago, was to rest,

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<v Speaker 5>and the medical evidence at the time support of that.

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<v Speaker 5>But since then we've got a bunch of really good,

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<v Speaker 5>rigorous research to show the benefits of exercising during pregnancy.

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<v Speaker 5>And one of the main reasons that people I think

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<v Speaker 5>are reluctant perhaps to start exercising or to continue is

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<v Speaker 5>just fear. So they're worried that they can perhaps cause

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<v Speaker 5>damage to the baby's development, or particularly in the first trimester,

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<v Speaker 5>I think people are concerned about miscarrying. And that's a

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<v Speaker 5>really a valid concern that I talked to lots of

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<v Speaker 5>women about when they call up when they're seven or

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<v Speaker 5>six weeks pregnant and they're wondering if it's okay to exercise.

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<v Speaker 5>But it's almost more important for those women to be

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<v Speaker 5>exercising once the pregnancy is well established. Then you want

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<v Speaker 5>to be breeping all those benefits and making sure that

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<v Speaker 5>your pregnancy is really healthy, you're really healthy, and that

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<v Speaker 5>your baby's really healthy and again you're optimizing all of

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<v Speaker 5>the things are going to help you recover. So I

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<v Speaker 5>think it's fear and also just a lack of awarenes

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<v Speaker 5>It's just lack of education because maybe their grandmothers and

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<v Speaker 5>their mothers are saying, oh, it's time for you to

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<v Speaker 5>rest and put your feet up, and you're working too hard,

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<v Speaker 5>and you know, how could you be bothered to do

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<v Speaker 5>the exercise after all of that hard day work And

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<v Speaker 5>it's just, you know, it's just not right. So it's

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<v Speaker 5>great that there's an opportunity for us to spread the

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<v Speaker 5>word that exercise is definitely a really great thing to

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<v Speaker 5>do while you're pregnant. The caveat in exercise is that

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<v Speaker 5>it's got to be something that you like. You better,

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<v Speaker 5>you may as well choose something that you like, and

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<v Speaker 5>it has to be you have to listen to your body.

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<v Speaker 5>So if you're really really exhausted because you haven't slept,

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<v Speaker 5>because you've been so sick with nausea during your pregnancy,

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<v Speaker 5>or you've just got zero energy, then you're crazy to

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<v Speaker 5>try and push yourself to go and do a thirty

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<v Speaker 5>minute workout. But if you can get the energy to

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<v Speaker 5>walk around the block or to do lapse of your

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<v Speaker 5>whole way that is already going to give you some benefits.

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<v Speaker 5>So you have to take the pressure of yourself and

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<v Speaker 5>do what you can when you can, and then when

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<v Speaker 5>you're feeling a little bit more energetic, that's when you

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<v Speaker 5>can put your foot on the gas a little and

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<v Speaker 5>do a bit more.

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<v Speaker 1>You must get a lot of questions about what is

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<v Speaker 1>the best type of exercise to do while I'm pregnant

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<v Speaker 1>or post nat or what do you say when you

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<v Speaker 1>get asked that question?

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<v Speaker 5>So, low impact, moderate intensity, right, okay, So if you

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<v Speaker 5>love cycling or rowing or.

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<v Speaker 1>So resistance type classes or pilates.

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<v Speaker 5>Walking, all that stuff is exactly what you want to

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<v Speaker 5>be doing. Where it's enough to get your heart rate

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<v Speaker 5>up and to make you feel a little bit huffed

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<v Speaker 5>and puff so that you can still carry on a conversation.

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<v Speaker 5>That's the level of heart rate that you want to have,

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<v Speaker 5>so that you've got a little bit of breathless feeling,

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<v Speaker 5>but you can still talk. That's the intensity and low

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<v Speaker 5>impact so that you're not putting pressure on your joints,

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<v Speaker 5>because your joints are softening during pregnancy to prepare for delivery,

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<v Speaker 5>and that happens from about starts happening from about eight weeks,

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<v Speaker 5>so the little hormones get into the ligaments and start

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<v Speaker 5>to create more space, particularly around the pelvis, and so

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<v Speaker 5>higher impact exercise can lead to a little bit of

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<v Speaker 5>discomfort in pelvic joints or other joints. So low impact

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<v Speaker 5>is better. And low impact is also really good because

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<v Speaker 5>your pelvic floor muscles, which are under extra load, can

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<v Speaker 5>tolerate a low impact move, but less likely to tolerate

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<v Speaker 5>higher impact exercise.

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<v Speaker 1>So higher impact you're talking about jumping squats and jumping

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<v Speaker 1>lunges and burpies and this kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>You yeah, yeah, yeah, running, yeah yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>So people who love running are the ones who usually

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<v Speaker 5>don't like to hear about low impact exercise because people

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<v Speaker 5>who love running want to keep running. And I understand

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<v Speaker 5>that running is a fabulous exercise, but I've seen the

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<v Speaker 5>evidence that it's better to have a little break from

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<v Speaker 5>running after your second trimester and get back to it

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<v Speaker 5>in the post natal period once your pelvic floor is

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<v Speaker 5>strong enough and your joints of are strong, because it's

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<v Speaker 5>just a lot of pressure on the pelvic floor and

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<v Speaker 5>it's a short window of your life to cut back

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<v Speaker 5>on something even if you love it, and then we

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<v Speaker 5>can get back into it afterwards.

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<v Speaker 1>So then from a post natal perspective, you get your

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<v Speaker 1>six week check from your doctor, you have six weeks off,

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<v Speaker 1>giving yourself plenty of time to rest and recuperate and

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<v Speaker 1>spend time with a little bub And then if you

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<v Speaker 1>get your six week check from your doctor, the advice

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<v Speaker 1>is you continue on with the low to moderate intensity,

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<v Speaker 1>lower impact stuff that you were doing during the pregnancy

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<v Speaker 1>and slowly but surely build yourself back up. Yeah, over

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<v Speaker 1>what time period to potentially then get back to running

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<v Speaker 1>for those women out there that are listening that do

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<v Speaker 1>love running.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, So, provided all is well, then three months is

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<v Speaker 5>the recommended time to start being able to do a

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<v Speaker 5>bit more high impact exercise. So your first six weeks

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<v Speaker 5>you kind of in your little bubble with your baby

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<v Speaker 5>and getting to know your family and spending time learning

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<v Speaker 5>how to feed and all of those things, and recovering

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<v Speaker 5>from the delivery. Gentle walking, gentle stretching is great. And

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<v Speaker 5>then from six to twelve weeks you can up the

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<v Speaker 5>ante a little bit with that load and moderate intense

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<v Speaker 5>but still low impact. And then from twelve weeks on wards,

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<v Speaker 5>if your pelvic floor feels strong enough and you're ready

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<v Speaker 5>and you're keen, then you can start to introduce some

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<v Speaker 5>more high impact load if those joints and muscles are

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<v Speaker 5>ready for that. And so there's a test. It's called

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<v Speaker 5>the stress test, and it's a star jump and a

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<v Speaker 5>cough at the same time three times. So when I

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<v Speaker 5>show it to people, they're like, holy moley, no, I'm

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<v Speaker 5>not ready for that. It's well, if you can't do

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<v Speaker 5>a cough and a star jump three times, then I

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<v Speaker 5>think a five k run is probably going to be

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<v Speaker 5>beyond what your pelvic floor is ready for. But the

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<v Speaker 5>progression you just touched on that, and that's exactly what

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<v Speaker 5>you do. You start with a walk run program, so

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<v Speaker 5>you walk for four minutes, run for a minute. You

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<v Speaker 5>allow your body chance to strengthen up and to adjust,

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<v Speaker 5>but you've got to keep up with your pelvic floor

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<v Speaker 5>exercises and the strengthening of your core muscles and the

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<v Speaker 5>glutes and all of that good stuff so that you're

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<v Speaker 5>ready to run.

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<v Speaker 1>So just we're talking about, you know, coming back gradually

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<v Speaker 1>and at the right pace for us after having a baby.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not a race.

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<v Speaker 5>It's not a race.

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<v Speaker 1>Every pregnancy is different. Work yourself back. If you can

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<v Speaker 1>exercise once a week, great, twice a week, great, three

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<v Speaker 1>times a week, great, do what you can.

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<v Speaker 5>Dance around the house every day exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, if you're torn between having an app that

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<v Speaker 1>you desperately need or fitting a workout in, have an app,

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<v Speaker 1>you know like that is most likely a much better

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<v Speaker 1>choice for you to make, and then just work yourself back,

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<v Speaker 1>slowly but surely. Now, I'd love you to give our

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<v Speaker 1>listeners your thoughts on peerlvic floor, because you said something

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<v Speaker 1>to me really interesting once, you said, Sam, everyone should

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<v Speaker 1>do pervict floor and I said every woman and you said, no,

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<v Speaker 1>every person, and I was like, oh, even me, And

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<v Speaker 1>so it's always stuck with me. It's always stuck with me.

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<v Speaker 1>I do my perfect floors after hearing that, So I'd

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<v Speaker 1>love you to elaborate on that a little bit more.

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<v Speaker 5>You're damn right. So pelvic floor muscles, we all have them.

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<v Speaker 5>They're part of our core. They support our organs underneath

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<v Speaker 5>in men and women. So in women, the difference is

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<v Speaker 5>that we have three openings in the pelvic floor, and

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<v Speaker 5>so that's what makes our muscles a little more vulnerable,

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<v Speaker 5>whereas in men there's just two openings in the pelvic floor,

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<v Speaker 5>and the urethra is really long, like in a woman

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<v Speaker 5>it's just a four centimeter tube. In a man it's

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<v Speaker 5>a variable length, but fourteen centimeters or so, so there's

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<v Speaker 5>a long way for the weed to go before it

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<v Speaker 5>accidentally leaks out. That's the difference. So women have got

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<v Speaker 5>a more vulnerable pelvic floor because of those three openings.

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<v Speaker 5>And then with childbirth, so the pregnancy weight of holding

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<v Speaker 5>the baby in the extra fluid plus the delivery is

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<v Speaker 5>what it leads to some stretching and perhaps some damage

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<v Speaker 5>to the pelvic floor muscles. So that's why we hear

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<v Speaker 5>about it more from women in those years, the thirties

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<v Speaker 5>and forties. In men, we hear about pelvic floor dysfunction

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<v Speaker 5>much later in life. So that's when the prostate land

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<v Speaker 5>gets enlarged often and removed, and then the tension around

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<v Speaker 5>the urethra is gone, and so then men have to

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<v Speaker 5>then learn how to activate their pelvic floor muscles to

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<v Speaker 5>control the flow of urine because that pressure has been

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<v Speaker 5>removed once the prostate's removed. So there's no get out

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<v Speaker 5>of jail free card. But the stats are definitely stacked

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<v Speaker 5>up against women, so one in three women who've had

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<v Speaker 5>a baby will experience stressing continents, and it's about one

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<v Speaker 5>in five men in their sixties. So it's much laid

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<v Speaker 5>down the track and it's much less prevalent, but it's

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<v Speaker 5>still really important. And if you think about weightlifting or

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<v Speaker 5>something that men and women both do where it puts

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<v Speaker 5>pressure down on the pelvic floor, that's when men really

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<v Speaker 5>need to focus on balancing that load or that intrabdominal

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<v Speaker 5>pressure by having enough pelvic floor strength.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is not something we know for women. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not a post pregnancy thing. This is a during during pregnancy.

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<v Speaker 5>During life. So teenage girls really should know how to

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<v Speaker 5>should be taught or should understand or have some more

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<v Speaker 5>education about how to activate their pelvic floor muscles, because

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<v Speaker 5>there's lots of young women or girls who haven't had

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<v Speaker 5>a baby who still experience involuntary loss of urine, and

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<v Speaker 5>particularly sporty girls, particularly the athletic girls, the netballers, the

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<v Speaker 5>trampoline as, the gymnasts, the horse riders, the hurdlers, the sprinters, basketballers,

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<v Speaker 5>so they've got lots of pressure. They're doing those high

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<v Speaker 5>impact sports with lots of pressure on the pelvic floor muscles.

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<v Speaker 5>And often they just haven't been taught the mechanics of

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<v Speaker 5>activating the pelvic floor muscles, or they've got really well

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<v Speaker 5>developed external muscles like their abs are super strong, their

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<v Speaker 5>back muscles, their groups, but there's been no focus from

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<v Speaker 5>the strength and conditioning side of things on the deeper

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<v Speaker 5>pelvic floor muscles.

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<v Speaker 2>So how do we build up our perfect floor.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, unfortunately, it's a bit boring and it's just one

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<v Speaker 5>of those things you kind of got to just do

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<v Speaker 5>and you can't always do it along with other exercise.

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<v Speaker 5>So it has to be specific initially so that you're

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<v Speaker 5>really focusing on the muscles. So the first thing is

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<v Speaker 5>understanding where the muscles are. So they're the muscles that

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<v Speaker 5>are at the base of your pelvis, running from your

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<v Speaker 5>pubic bone at the front and attaching to your tailboat

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<v Speaker 5>at the back. So you picture that hammock of muscle

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<v Speaker 5>and it's sitting like a bowl holding up all your organs.

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<v Speaker 5>And then for girls, imagining that you're tightening around your

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<v Speaker 5>back passage. And I say for girls because boys don't

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<v Speaker 5>ever hold in farts, so.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't understand.

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<v Speaker 5>So we'll get to you in a minute. So I

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<v Speaker 5>say to the girls, if you're the lift with your

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<v Speaker 5>boss and you've just been having your chickpea soup for

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<v Speaker 5>your homus on toast. You've got to squeeze and tighten

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<v Speaker 5>around your back passage. And we say around the back

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<v Speaker 5>passage because there's so many nerve innings. There way more

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<v Speaker 5>nerve things that are in your vagina, so you're tightening

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<v Speaker 5>around the vagina too, But it's a different feeling around

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<v Speaker 5>the back paste. You've got much more feedback, so it's

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<v Speaker 5>the same muscles. You can just feel it more at

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<v Speaker 5>the back, so you squeeze and tighten, but your bum

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<v Speaker 5>stays relaxed and your legs are relaxed. You can feel

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<v Speaker 5>a little bit of pulling in from your tummy and

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<v Speaker 5>that's activating your pelvic floor. For boys, you're going to

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<v Speaker 5>imagine walking into Port Philip Bay down there in the

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<v Speaker 5>nice freezing sixteen degree water and just slowly as you're

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<v Speaker 5>getting deeper and deeper and the water's coming up your

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<v Speaker 5>thighs up and it's just about to touch your balls.

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<v Speaker 5>That feeling of everything lifting and drawing in is activating

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<v Speaker 5>your pelvic floor muscles.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, okay, And how long do you hold it for?

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<v Speaker 5>So when you're starting out about three seconds, so you

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<v Speaker 5>want to get a really strong contraction, give it everything

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<v Speaker 5>you've got, and then release fully. So it's just as

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<v Speaker 5>important to release fully, same as any muscle. If you're

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<v Speaker 5>trying to strengthen, you need to relax so that you

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<v Speaker 5>can then activate it again.

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<v Speaker 1>When you say this is something you need to do

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<v Speaker 1>in isolation, so you're not doing this what you're trying

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<v Speaker 1>to do your squat So you did list at the gym,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a that's correct morning exercise.

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<v Speaker 5>Or you're brushing your teeth.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, okay, and how many reps am I doing?

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<v Speaker 5>So you're standing there brushing your teeth, you're doing ten

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<v Speaker 5>three second.

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<v Speaker 2>Holds, ten three second holds, And that's.

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<v Speaker 5>Kind of like a baseline maintenance homework program. And that's

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<v Speaker 5>a really great thing to start because then you don't

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<v Speaker 5>build up that fear about exercising the pelvic floor muscles.

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<v Speaker 5>It just happens and it gets stronger and the feeling

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<v Speaker 5>comes back much more quickly. So start as early as

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<v Speaker 5>you can, and if you haven't, don't worry. You haven't

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<v Speaker 5>missed the vote because you're still going to get the

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<v Speaker 5>benefits of strengthening whenever you start brilliant advice.

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<v Speaker 1>Klok. I've spoken to you five thousand times and I've still.

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<v Speaker 2>Learned a lot today.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't thank you enough for coming on and sharing

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<v Speaker 1>all of you with them today with our wood Life listeners, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much thanks for having me.

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<v Speaker 1>So to all of our Woodlife listens out there, I

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<v Speaker 1>think you know what your homework is. Get doing those

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<v Speaker 1>pervict floor exercises every day while you're.

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<v Speaker 2>Brushing your teeth.

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<v Speaker 1>And next, we're going to dive into questions with our

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<v Speaker 1>wonderful nutritionist Shana about diet culture. There's a good chance

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<v Speaker 1>that you've either been on a diet or you know

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<v Speaker 1>someone who has. Diet culture is alive and well, and

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<v Speaker 1>there's so many different ones out there, some promising crazy results,

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<v Speaker 1>others saying they're good for your health. We're going to

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<v Speaker 1>unpack your diet questions with our favorite nutritionist Shanna.

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<v Speaker 6>Welcome, Hey Sam, great to be here.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a funny one because I would be in

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<v Speaker 1>the absolute minority. I've never been on a diet.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm probably in the minority.

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<v Speaker 1>There would definitely be most of our listeners out there

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<v Speaker 1>that have tried a diet of some description, so it's

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<v Speaker 1>no surprise when we get questions.

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<v Speaker 3>Like this, Hey, Sam, I'd be very interested to see

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<v Speaker 3>what your thoughts are on Keto and something that I'm

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<v Speaker 3>looking at doing. And I think even though Keto is

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<v Speaker 3>a lifestyle, I think it's something that we should horribly

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<v Speaker 3>talk about more.

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<v Speaker 1>So, isn't that an interesting great question Brooklyn that Brooklyn

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<v Speaker 1>said it's a lifestyle which I don't necessarily agree with,

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<v Speaker 1>which I think can be a controversial opinion because those

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<v Speaker 1>that are on the Keto train are pretty steadfast about it,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's I believe that Keto has some good bits,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's far too restrictive as it definitely leaves out

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<v Speaker 1>some key nutritional areas. Do you want to elaborate a

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<v Speaker 1>bit more and explain to our listeners first of all,

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<v Speaker 1>if I'm right and what.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm on about, Yeah, absolutely so. I think with any

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<v Speaker 6>diet diets that take out entire food groups or macronutrients,

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<v Speaker 6>they're a bit of a red flag straight away. So

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<v Speaker 6>with the Keto diet, you're having very minimal, like virtually

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<v Speaker 6>no carbohydrates whatsoever. You're focusing more on the high fat

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<v Speaker 6>foods and protein as well. But by removing the carbohydrate

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<v Speaker 6>that's actually the kinds of foods we get fiber from,

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<v Speaker 6>and fiber is really important for our gut health and

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<v Speaker 6>carbs in general, they are our bodies preferred source of fuel. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 6>we want to choose the right type of carbohydrates. The

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<v Speaker 6>less refined, the better, so that's the key.

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<v Speaker 2>That's okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I think carbohydrates are being demonized, and some carbohydrates probably

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<v Speaker 1>deserve to be demonized and don't really do us any favors,

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<v Speaker 1>and getting rid of them out of our diet, or

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<v Speaker 1>predominantly getting rid of them actually does do us a

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<v Speaker 1>whole lot of favors. But getting rid of them altogether,

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<v Speaker 1>not getting that fiber and and some other valuable things

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<v Speaker 1>that we need from our carbs, is.

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<v Speaker 6>Not the answer, is it exactly? And I think we

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<v Speaker 6>often forget that lots of veggies fall under the carbohydrate

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<v Speaker 6>banner as well, so you're also limiting your vegetable intake.

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<v Speaker 6>And we know how important it is to get plenty

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<v Speaker 6>of veggies as part of a balanced diet, so we

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<v Speaker 6>want to be careful when we are restricting entire macronutrients

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<v Speaker 6>or big food groups like that. In saying that keto

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<v Speaker 6>can be beneficial in particular, conditions like epilepsy. There've been

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<v Speaker 6>some studies done there. However, for general health, it's not

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<v Speaker 6>something I would get behind or recommend.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's a really good question from Brooklyn, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>I hope that clears up Brooklyn why I said. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't personally, and China shares this opinion that it is

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<v Speaker 1>a lifestyle choice because when I hear the term lifestyle choice,

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<v Speaker 1>I think sustainability. Now, there's a lot of good things

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<v Speaker 1>about it cuts out a lot of the bad things

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<v Speaker 1>that too many of us consume in two higher quantities.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is where it's all relative. So many of

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<v Speaker 1>us seats so badly that if we change from what

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<v Speaker 1>we're currently eating to go to quito, we're probably eating

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<v Speaker 1>a lot better. However, is it the optimal long term

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<v Speaker 1>way to eat?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think so.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep, I'd agree with that all right. Next question is

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<v Speaker 1>from Larna.

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<v Speaker 4>Hi, Sam, just wondering your thoughts on juice cleanses. Do

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<v Speaker 4>you view them as a fad diet, a good way

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<v Speaker 4>to de toks or a good way to strip that?

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks?

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<v Speaker 4>Sam.

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<v Speaker 1>So, I've got a good mate who is a bit

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<v Speaker 1>of a juice cleans nut, and it's always to come

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<v Speaker 1>back from the brink of very unhealthy periods or unhealthier,

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<v Speaker 1>more stressful periods in his life. He's a super busy guy,

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<v Speaker 1>and he also loves his pastries and that kind of thing,

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<v Speaker 1>and so he goes from one extrand to the other.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm habit to put my hand up. At the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the seven days, he looks pretty good. He doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>really enjoy it. You know, he's starving and it's not sustainable.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean he hangs on by his fingernails to get

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<v Speaker 1>to day five, six or seven. Typically, what I see

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<v Speaker 1>is most of the people that lose weight on these

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<v Speaker 1>things just regain it again. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>I think this is a really interesting one because some

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<v Speaker 6>people love them, rave about them, find really good results

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<v Speaker 6>through them, and others absolutely hate them. I know they're

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<v Speaker 6>even in the nutrition and dietitian world, there are many

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<v Speaker 6>who are absolutely so against juice cleansers. I personally sit

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<v Speaker 6>somewhere in between. I think they can have a time

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<v Speaker 6>and a place. I don't think it's a sustainable, long

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<v Speaker 6>term thing.

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<v Speaker 1>All the full seven days though, because I don't love

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<v Speaker 1>them is a little kicker.

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<v Speaker 2>It's seven days.

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<v Speaker 6>It's a long time, and it's a particularly long time

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<v Speaker 6>to go without particular macronutrients and food groups. Like we

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<v Speaker 6>were saying about ketohuts cutting things out, juice cleanses are

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<v Speaker 6>the same. You're missing a lot of important vitamins minerals,

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<v Speaker 6>or you're getting lots of vitamins and minerals, but you're

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<v Speaker 6>missing like your protein, your healthy fats. They can work

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<v Speaker 6>in terms of, like you said, as a bit of

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<v Speaker 6>a reset. So if you just feel like you need

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<v Speaker 6>a little bit of a detox or you need to

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<v Speaker 6>just help reset and kick start your habits, that can

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<v Speaker 6>be a good way to start, and it can give

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<v Speaker 6>our body a rest because our bodies then not digesting.

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<v Speaker 6>Digesting does take up a lot of energy. Something we

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<v Speaker 6>do want to be mindful of, though, is making sure

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<v Speaker 6>we're going for veggie based juices when we do juice cleanses,

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<v Speaker 6>because otherwise it's just going to be so high sugar

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<v Speaker 6>and it can send our blood sugar levels out of

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<v Speaker 6>regulation and that's not something we want to be doing,

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<v Speaker 6>especially because with those juices, when not getting the fiber

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<v Speaker 6>that helps to slow the release of those sugars.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's a really good point because we tend

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<v Speaker 1>to think of juice cleans as a juice cleans, and

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<v Speaker 1>they're definitely different. It's an interesting thing when you see

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<v Speaker 1>what people do from an exercise perspective as well, when

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<v Speaker 1>they take on one of these cleanses. I sort of

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<v Speaker 1>sitting on the fence are a little bit later. I

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<v Speaker 1>hope you don't think, oh, thanks for nothing, but I

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<v Speaker 1>think we've given you a bit of a well rounded opinion.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope that helps you to make up your own mind.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think it's safe to say, Shanna that keto

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<v Speaker 1>and juice cleans might not be the best things, but

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<v Speaker 1>they're definitely not the most extreme options out there. We're

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<v Speaker 1>going to hear from some of our wood Life listeners

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<v Speaker 1>with some seriously extreme crash darts that they've tried.

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<v Speaker 7>I've done the GM diet, so, which is like a

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<v Speaker 7>seven day literally a cleansed program.

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<v Speaker 4>So every day you just got.

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<v Speaker 7>To eat, like one day it's only bananas, one day

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<v Speaker 7>it's only watermelon, one day's only tomato raw tomatoes, and yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>I think one of the days it's vegetables. So it's

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<v Speaker 7>like a crazy seven day diet. I tried my best

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<v Speaker 7>to do that and it was It did help in

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<v Speaker 7>losing a few pounds, but it's not sustainable.

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<v Speaker 8>I did the soup diet once, so basically you're supposed

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<v Speaker 8>to eat I have soup for fourteen days and I

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<v Speaker 8>only lasted two. I just remember it was almost like

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<v Speaker 8>I was see like I was water logged because I'd

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<v Speaker 8>had so much soup and I was also drinking water

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<v Speaker 8>I think the.

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<v Speaker 5>Lemons for about three weeks, and it was correndous. I

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<v Speaker 5>don't ever do it again.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if we ever need to comment.

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<v Speaker 1>I think those three listeners sum that up absolutely perfect.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, so the GM diet, which has been around

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<v Speaker 1>since the eighties, it's as old as it's as old

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<v Speaker 1>as they come. On day four, just as an example

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<v Speaker 1>of how wacky this diet is, you're only allowed to

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<v Speaker 1>consume milk and bananas. I mean, WTF, seriously, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>that is just weird. And at least all three of

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<v Speaker 1>our listeners had tried those things, hadn't enjoyed it, had

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<v Speaker 1>worked out for themselves that this is definitely.

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<v Speaker 2>Not the long term way ahead.

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<v Speaker 1>But what's your overarching thoughts on crash diets.

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<v Speaker 6>Definitely not a fan of crash diets or fad diets

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<v Speaker 6>or anything that promises quick results, or just limits really good.

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<v Speaker 4>Foods for us.

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<v Speaker 6>So all of these are very restrictive and limiting. One

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<v Speaker 6>of the people who shared their experience, they said that

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<v Speaker 6>it's not sustainable, and that just hit the nail on

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<v Speaker 6>the head because they're not sustainable. They are crash diets,

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<v Speaker 6>they are a few days, they're promising those results, but

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<v Speaker 6>they're not helping you make those changes, change your habits,

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<v Speaker 6>working with behavioral change methods to actually get you doing

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<v Speaker 6>what is going to support your health long term. And

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<v Speaker 6>these things, if you were to do the long term,

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<v Speaker 6>you would feel like absolute trash. Like these people probably

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<v Speaker 6>felt not great when they're just doing it short term

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<v Speaker 6>as well. And some of them said that and they

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<v Speaker 6>might lose that weight in the short term, but then

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<v Speaker 6>they're going to put it back on because they haven't

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<v Speaker 6>actually learned what they need to eat to support their

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<v Speaker 6>body and support them staying at their healthy weight long term.

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<v Speaker 6>So it's literally that is you're just going to yoyo.

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<v Speaker 6>You're going to end up trying one then having to

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<v Speaker 6>try another, and it's not actually creating that sustainable change

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<v Speaker 6>that we want.

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<v Speaker 1>And so from a science perspective, I've always explained to

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<v Speaker 1>my clients and perhaps you can explain it better, but

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<v Speaker 1>I always say, well, you lose the water because you're

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<v Speaker 1>not eating carbs and it's a lot of carbs in

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<v Speaker 1>your system that hold water.

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<v Speaker 2>So as soon as.

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<v Speaker 1>Those carbs are flushed out of your system, all the

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<v Speaker 1>water gets flushed out too. You kind of dehydrated and

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<v Speaker 1>depleted of everything. And then the second you eat it again,

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<v Speaker 1>your body just sucks it all up like a sponge

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<v Speaker 1>and you bring all that water back on to sort

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<v Speaker 1>of what your weight's meant to be, and turns out

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<v Speaker 1>in that time you've lost no actual fat. So when

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<v Speaker 1>you're thinking about what you're trying to do, it is

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<v Speaker 1>it sustainable? And how am I actually burning fat?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah? So I think placing the emphasis on the fat

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<v Speaker 6>loss as opposed to the weight loss is something that

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<v Speaker 6>is really important to note.

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<v Speaker 1>Channa, thank you so much for coming into the woodlife.

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<v Speaker 1>As always, I've learned many things I'm sure our listeners

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<v Speaker 1>have too, And to our listeners, thank you so much

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<v Speaker 1>for sending those questions. This show really is all about

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<v Speaker 1>you and trying to help you, so please, please, please

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<v Speaker 1>always continue to send in your questions as a link

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<v Speaker 1>in the show notes.

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<v Speaker 2>If you ever want to do that. We'd love to

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<v Speaker 2>hear

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<v Speaker 1>From you, and you'll see now on Monday for a

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<v Speaker 1>motivational moment