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Speaker 1: It's the Happy Families Podcast.

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Speaker 2: It's the podcast for the time poor parent who just

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Speaker 2: wants answers.

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Speaker 1: Now, it feels ridiculous to say this, but December next week,

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Speaker 1: I don't know whether the year has gone Hello, and

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Speaker 1: welcome to the Happy Families Podcast. Is doctor Justin Coleson.

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Speaker 1: I'm here with my wife and mom to our six daughters.

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Speaker 1: Misshappy Families, Kylie. Every Friday, it's older about it. Tomorrow,

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Speaker 1: we'll we reflect on the week that was. We talk

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Speaker 1: about what we've done right or what we've done wrong,

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Speaker 1: and how we can be better because we want to

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Speaker 1: be intentional parents and all that jazz. And today I've

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Speaker 1: decided that we're going to do our last word of

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Speaker 1: the year review as well. Remember at the start of

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Speaker 1: the year, we thought it'd be a great idea to

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Speaker 1: do what so many people do when it comes to

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Speaker 1: setting goals and trying to create habits. We said, let's

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Speaker 1: let's develop a word for the year, and let's live

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Speaker 1: by that word and see how we go at the

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Speaker 1: end of the year. So we need to wrap that

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Speaker 1: up as well. This will be the last conversation we

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Speaker 1: have about words of the year, and I'd love for

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Speaker 1: you to go First, what was your word of the year.

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Speaker 1: I've forgot now, I've genuinely forgotten embrace. Oh embrace? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: how have you gone this year? And let's just talk

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Speaker 1: about how you've gone this last week?

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Speaker 2: Well, we've been away this last week. So I did

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Speaker 2: embrace before he downtime and book reading and maybe a

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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, and the kids.

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Speaker 2: I don't know where they were.

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Speaker 1: We had a week away without the kids. First time

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Speaker 1: that we've ever done something that I was I was

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Speaker 1: going to say gregarious. It's not the right word. Gregarious

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Speaker 1: is like big and personal. I don't know, like that

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Speaker 1: is that extravagant. Our kids are getting older now. Anyone

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Speaker 1: who's got young kids right now is just going, oh,

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Speaker 1: imagine that. But we've dreamed of this for years, and

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Speaker 1: we finally I missed them, you did, I really missed them?

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Speaker 1: Like I was, like, we should call the kids.

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Speaker 2: We should just you must be a better parent than you.

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Speaker 1: That's so bad, all right? So, in terms of parenting,

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Speaker 1: how has the word embrace gone for you this year?

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Speaker 2: Embrace is a really big word, and this year has

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Speaker 2: been in so many ways such a fast paced year

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Speaker 2: for us. There has been so many moving parts, so

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Speaker 2: many changes to each of our children's lives.

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Speaker 1: I would say too fast and too many.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, So in lots of ways, when I think

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Speaker 2: of the word embrace, it actually feels like slowing down,

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Speaker 2: because you're able to really take in that moment, a

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Speaker 2: nice deep breath, when you give somebody a hug, and

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Speaker 2: you just are in that moment. And because our lives

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Speaker 2: have been so fast paced, you could almost suggest that

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Speaker 2: there hasn't been an element of embrace. But because there's

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Speaker 2: been so many changing parts and moving parts within our home,

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Speaker 2: I've had to embrace those as we've gone. I've done well.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes I haven't done so well in other things, but

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Speaker 1: Ask me about mine.

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Speaker 2: Yours was presence?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, how did you go? I think the whole word

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Speaker 1: ourselves with. I've given up. We're not doing another word

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Speaker 1: I'm not doing another word of the year. I try

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Speaker 1: to be present, I try to do a great job.

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to write a book. Right now, I'm trying

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Speaker 1: and I chose the word presence because I know that

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Speaker 1: that's what I need to work on. But the reality

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Speaker 1: is having the word hasn't changed a thing. And I

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Speaker 1: don't know if that's been the same for you, having

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Speaker 1: I don't know if it makes you more conscious of

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Speaker 1: Every now and again, I just feel like I'm beating

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Speaker 1: I'm not buying in. I try to be present. I

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Speaker 1: unquote good enough parents. And the good enough parent is

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Speaker 2: But you could apply that to your word of the year.

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Speaker 2: It's not about perfection. It's not about saying I nailed it.

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Speaker 2: The reality is, as I look at my year, I

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Speaker 1: I guess my point is whether we had the Word

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Speaker 1: want to be present. It's part of who I am.

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Speaker 1: You want to still embrace it's part of who you are.

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Speaker 2: Well, watch this space. I'm twenty twenty five. Will there

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Speaker 1: If you insist on it, I'm going to have holiday

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Speaker 1: And I've decided that the important stuff can wait, and

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Speaker 1: because it's just so funny. That's why I'll do better tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: It's about saying, whether I've got time for it or not,

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Speaker 1: can't help but have fun. It's been an absolute delight.

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Speaker 1: I was very very impressed. That's high quality painting right there.

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Speaker 2: I've been doing a lot of introspective thinking over the

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Speaker 2: what that looks like and what's important and what's not.

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Speaker 2: And as we've gone through this year of homeschooling with

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Speaker 2: baby number five and six. At the beginning of the year,

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Speaker 2: I was a real stickula for ticking every box and

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Speaker 1: Yeah, or you weren't going through the motions, you were

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Speaker 2: And as the years progress, we've kind of got behind

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