Speaker 1: Get a Peter, Hell, are you here?
Speaker 2: Welcome to you?
Speaker 1: Ain't saying nothing yet.
Speaker 3: The movie podcast where chat to a movie lover about
Speaker 3: a classic or beloved movie they haven't quite got around
Speaker 3: to watching until now. In today's guest actor writer Jackson Toza,
Speaker 3: the first rule.
Speaker 1: Of Fay Club is you do not talk about fake
Speaker 1: club now.
Speaker 4: Ay as you're afraid of you broke my heart.
Speaker 1: I admire your luck, mister Bond, James.
Speaker 2: Bond, me have a a right now.
Speaker 5: Don't seeing nothing here.
Speaker 3: I had the pleasure of meeting young Jackson Toza on
Speaker 3: a little got a web series that I did an
Speaker 3: appearance on that Steve Bastoni had put together called Welfare.
Speaker 3: I met Jackson and I worked with him in some scenes.
Speaker 3: Occasionally you work with an actor, or you see an
Speaker 3: actor or comedian and you just feel like, Oh, they're going.
Speaker 2: To make it, They are going to have a wonderful career.
Speaker 3: I had a very similar feeling when I saw Luke
Speaker 3: McGregor on Channel thirty one. I had the same feeling
Speaker 3: seeing Jackson Tozer working so much so that I cast
Speaker 3: him in an episode of the first series of How
Speaker 3: to Stay Married. He's in the episode where he robs
Speaker 3: seven to eleven and ends up well chricking my sperm anyway,
Speaker 3: well not my sperm, my character sperm anyway. Pretty gross,
Speaker 3: a bit bloody funny. But Jackson has gone on and
Speaker 3: been their real presence of the strange entertainment scenes. He
Speaker 3: started on This Is Littleton back in twenty fourteen. He's
Speaker 3: done shows such as Five Bedroom, The Newsreader, Mister in Between,
Speaker 3: which is fantastic, on Ruston On, on Netflix, the XPM,
Speaker 3: on the ABC, Sean mchayliff. He's been on Utopia, Secret
Speaker 3: Bridesmaid's Business. He goes on and on. He received praise
Speaker 3: for his lead role in the twenty sixteen independent film
Speaker 3: Lazy Bones. Toesy's performance as a sweet and funny Ben
Speaker 3: is effortlessly brilliant and arguably award worthy. Jackson can be
Speaker 3: seen in the short film called Hatchback with our very
Speaker 3: good friend Steve Carry, which is getting rave reviews at
Speaker 3: the Saint Killer Short Film Festival, so look out for that. Personally,
Speaker 3: Jackson is so enthusiastic, he is committed to his craft,
Speaker 3: and he's bloody hilarious and I'm bloody's doked to be
Speaker 3: hanging with him today.
Speaker 1: Gooda my name is Jackson Tozer. My three favorite films
Speaker 1: are Kill Bill.
Speaker 5: Bad Woman Deserves Revenge.
Speaker 6: Austin Power was.
Speaker 1: Sniskier and The Impossible I Will Find Them comes to that,
Speaker 1: And up until a few days ago, I had not
Speaker 1: seen determinetor.
Speaker 3: If Top Gun was the making of Tom Cruise, and
Speaker 3: undoubtedly nineteen eighty four is the Terminator. Sees the rise
Speaker 3: of future icon of action cinema in Arnold Schwartschenegger, sent
Speaker 3: from an apocalyptic future, which incidentally is only seven years away.
Speaker 3: A cybog arrives as naked as the day I was born,
Speaker 3: with one deadly mission to kill Sarah Connor, played by
Speaker 3: Linda Hamilton in a role that is absolutely legendary, particularly
Speaker 3: knowing where she takes the character in t TU Judgment
Speaker 3: Day Sarah Connor a true feminist icon. Whilst Arnie tracks
Speaker 3: Sarah Connor down, a man by the name of Kyle
Speaker 3: Reese has volunteered in the future to protect.
Speaker 2: And well shag ms Connor.
Speaker 3: James cameron second film, Well, he considers it his second
Speaker 3: after a miserable experience on Piranha too, so he's a
Speaker 3: giant of cinema, arrived in style and bloodshed. Jackson Toza,
Speaker 3: be honest, have you been sent from the future to
Speaker 3: kill me?
Speaker 1: Not to kill you, not to kill but to persuade
Speaker 1: you to make the right choices. You end up leading
Speaker 1: the Liberal Party in ten years. I'm just going to
Speaker 1: nudge you in the right direction.
Speaker 3: That's all I had to see to Key young in mine.
Speaker 3: But tough seat to get tough, very tough mate.
Speaker 2: How are you?
Speaker 1: I'm so great. I'm freezing this morning. I'm good now,
Speaker 1: that's why I'm rocking a beanie. But I was so
Speaker 1: cold last night.
Speaker 3: It's it's chilly, the polar the polar freeze, or something's
Speaker 3: coming through at the moment. We've had a pretty good
Speaker 3: time in Melbourne, considering the rest of the country has
Speaker 3: been through a whole lot of flooding. But we're doing
Speaker 3: okay Melbour It's been pretty good. It's just human instinct,
Speaker 3: isn't it. Like when it's too hot, we can plain,
Speaker 3: when it's too cold, we can play. Yes, you think
Speaker 3: Melbournians would be over commenting on the changes of the weather.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we like it still.
Speaker 1: We like it.
Speaker 6: We like beautiful, the flowers, the leaves this time of year.
Speaker 3: Gorgeous, the leaves are gorgeous unless they're on your all property.
Speaker 1: Goddess, Hey, why had you not seen the Terminator? It's
Speaker 1: actually because I've been thinking all day why not? And
Speaker 1: I genuinely don't know. But I grew up in Country Victoria,
Speaker 1: a small town called Portland, and we didn't even have
Speaker 1: winn that fox foxtowl.
Speaker 6: I think it was oz Star down there is.
Speaker 1: What it was called. So we only had like six
Speaker 1: seven channels to watch as a kid, and like, Terminator
Speaker 1: was just never on. It was just never on there,
Speaker 1: and it was something that just never came across my
Speaker 1: TV screen, so I never I never watched it for
Speaker 1: that sake. It definitely wasn't because of violence or anything
Speaker 1: like that. But I was also born in ninety one,
Speaker 1: so I'd like to think that anything before that, my
Speaker 1: parents were like, nap, don't even worry about it.
Speaker 2: Well, I was nine when this current came out.
Speaker 3: I did see Terminator two, which comes out in ninety one,
Speaker 3: before I saw a Terminator, So it was funny when
Speaker 3: I eventually went back and watched Terminator, you kind of go, oh, okay,
Speaker 3: now this actually the way, And I assume you haven't
Speaker 3: seen T two.
Speaker 1: Well, that's the thing. The reason if you watched T
Speaker 1: one was because I wanted to watch T two, which
Speaker 1: I still haven't watched, but wanted to watch the first
Speaker 1: one first.
Speaker 3: Well, and it's you know, it's funny because I feel
Speaker 3: like a lot of people, more so than most franchises,
Speaker 3: a lot of people had I think I'm not alone.
Speaker 3: I think a lot of people did see Terminator two
Speaker 3: because that became such a massive event movie. You know,
Speaker 3: Guns and Roses, you could be mine that the the
Speaker 3: hottest band in the world.
Speaker 2: And they did the song for the soundtrack. You know,
Speaker 2: I hear.
Speaker 1: It's a massive step up too in terms of like
Speaker 1: special effects. Story. It's arguably said to be one of
Speaker 1: the greatest sequels ever made.
Speaker 3: Well absolutely, and this so terminated the buzz on Terminator
Speaker 3: six point four million US and actually does a lot
Speaker 3: of a lot of that business on home video. It
Speaker 3: wasn't necessarily a breakout in eighty four in cinemas, goes
Speaker 3: on the gross seventy eight and a half million dollars US,
Speaker 3: so very handy.
Speaker 6: Chump change for Jimmy Cameron.
Speaker 3: Well, I'll get today in the second actually very good point.
Speaker 3: Then he makes T two on a budget of one
Speaker 3: hundred and two million. The opening credits of Terminator two
Speaker 3: Judgment Day costs more than the budget of the original.
Speaker 3: Absolutely it goes on to make five hundred and twenty
Speaker 3: million US. But funnily enough, James Cameron, you think he'd
Speaker 3: make a lot of money from both these films. He
Speaker 3: sold the rights for one dollar, for literally one dollar,
Speaker 3: because he was coming off a movie called Piranha Too,
Speaker 3: which he hated, and he hated the experience, and he
Speaker 3: had this nightmare about this skeletal kind of robot crawling
Speaker 3: through flames, and that inspired this this movie. But he
Speaker 3: wasn't like he was hot property. He just he wasn't
Speaker 3: James Cameron yet, wasn't then and he was still James.
Speaker 3: He wasn't James.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he wasn't even j C. James.
Speaker 3: And he was a white for one dollar as long
Speaker 3: as he could direct it and as long as he
Speaker 3: couldn't get fired off.
Speaker 1: In the contract. But I do feel like a dollar.
Speaker 1: It's such a measly like why even a dollar? Why
Speaker 1: not I go one hundred? What I say? You know,
Speaker 1: a thousand gives me a thousand dollars. He has a
Speaker 1: horrible agent agent if they negotiated a dollar.
Speaker 3: With that said, I'm terminated to who does negotiate and
Speaker 3: he doesn't get paid, so he doesn't get any the
Speaker 3: back end or royalties.
Speaker 2: But he didn't get paid I.
Speaker 3: Think about six million dollars to direct the sea because
Speaker 3: he made aliens. Between this and that, he proved himself.
Speaker 3: He proved himself. He proved himself. But the rights went
Speaker 3: back to him in twenty nineteen. So and I do
Speaker 3: believe he is working on He would call it a
Speaker 3: third Terminator movie because he he doesn't really rate the
Speaker 3: anything after he was no longer involved, it doesn't exist.
Speaker 3: So it'd interest to see how that comes about. How
Speaker 3: did you watch it? Did you watch it by yourself or.
Speaker 6: I watched it by myself.
Speaker 1: I have I've just gotten during lockdown a big seventy
Speaker 1: five inch TV and the sounds. Didn't watch it on that,
Speaker 1: watch it on my laptop with my second screen there
Speaker 1: because I wanted to make notes just instinctively when I
Speaker 1: watched it.
Speaker 6: But I watched it the second time.
Speaker 1: I watched it one day and then the next day
Speaker 1: by watching it on the big TV with a proper sound,
Speaker 1: and actually enjoyed it, really enjoyed it the second time around.
Speaker 3: It's quite a few times on this podcast, Jackson, I've
Speaker 3: I've watched a movie, I think the ones I haven't
Speaker 3: seen before, and there's a certain nervousness whether I'm going
Speaker 3: to enjoy it and I'm going to have enough to
Speaker 3: talk about, you know, and the pressure of like, Okay,
Speaker 3: I'm finally watching this classic movie. And there have been
Speaker 3: some that I've loved straight away, and there have been
Speaker 3: something I've gone, oh, something it's not and then I'll
Speaker 3: watch it again to kind of because sometimes I am
Speaker 3: making notes and maybe it's not.
Speaker 2: Is it the best way to watch a movie?
Speaker 3: I don't know, And I'll watch it the second time
Speaker 3: more as I kind of like this is focus on
Speaker 3: the film, and I enjoy.
Speaker 2: It more the second time.
Speaker 3: I think, maybe even knowing being comfortable enough to kind
Speaker 3: of go, okay, this is a classic for a reason.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can relax. I don't how to be nervous.
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna be nervous having Brogus's not gonna give
Speaker 3: me a call and say, did you enjoy multi Felcon.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's the second time. It's like it's the
Speaker 1: first time for you, so for me this film. You're
Speaker 1: watching it now you've seen it, It's.
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, this was a comfortable experience for me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I hadn't seen it, so obviously I'm going to
Speaker 1: be analyzing everything and laughing at all the special effects
Speaker 1: and laughing at all of the things that are happening
Speaker 1: in it, because to me, this film is a comedy.
Speaker 1: There is so much laughter I got out of this film. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but obviously I'm going to critique. It's like I have
Speaker 1: a mate who hasn't seen Greece and I know you've
Speaker 1: done an episode of that on this and he's like,
Speaker 1: should I watch it? I'm like, no, Like you would
Speaker 1: hate it now. If you'd watched it as a kid,
Speaker 1: you'd love it now, But if you watched it now
Speaker 1: as a thirty year old adult, you would think this
Speaker 1: is the corniest, silliest thing you've ever seen.
Speaker 3: It's it's part of the trick I think when we're
Speaker 3: watching old movies where you have to put yourself back
Speaker 3: in that time and and some and some people are
Speaker 3: better doing it than others where and some people just
Speaker 3: can't do it. But I'm watching it by today's standards,
Speaker 3: and there's always particularly now you will see things. You're
Speaker 3: gonna go, well, Gesz, they wouldn't get away with the
Speaker 3: bags now, And yeah, we do things differently now, you know,
Speaker 3: for the for better or worse, usually for the better. So, yeah,
Speaker 3: there's so much to talk about the technology, Arnie, James Cameron,
Speaker 3: Linda Hamilton. There's a lot to take in. There's a terminator,
Speaker 3: you know, Penis as well in there somewhere.
Speaker 6: That's what I'm to talk about.
Speaker 1: Just as Arnie's Hog four minutes steady, you have time
Speaker 1: code Anjelum swing of Arnie. I was like I had
Speaker 1: to read one. I was like, did I just show
Speaker 1: Arnie's Hog? They show full hog?
Speaker 2: I did the same thing where it's.
Speaker 1: Like, well, that's that's his thick. I thought it was
Speaker 1: a stuf. At one point I was like, that can't
Speaker 1: be his. I'm like, my lord, that man, that is peak.
Speaker 1: He walked so Hemsworth could run like that. That is
Speaker 1: peak physical male.
Speaker 3: Right there, he's a specimen that the the I mean
Speaker 3: the way where his shoulders are to where his waist is.
Speaker 2: It's a perfect triangle.
Speaker 1: Perfect, Yeah, it really is.
Speaker 3: Let's let's talk about your three favorite films. There's some
Speaker 3: good ones or three three good ones. Let's start with
Speaker 3: Kill Bill Bill Volume one.
Speaker 2: I did that with the Godfather films as well, so
Speaker 2: I'm not allowed this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Star Wars, like I listened to the Curry
Speaker 1: podcast and like, obviously Star Wars is as you say,
Speaker 1: it's everyone's favorite film, but to me, the franchise is one.
Speaker 1: You know, the shows, all the movies, prequel sequels, good
Speaker 1: and bad.
Speaker 6: To me, it's one thing. So you can't.
Speaker 1: I can't say this one film is my favorite or
Speaker 1: this one is because yeah, as I said, the world
Speaker 1: buildings great and you got to interview you and recently
Speaker 1: you're in the Lucky Luckybouse that that would be amazing.
Speaker 1: And just quietly I reckon, I've knocked it out of
Speaker 1: the part with Kenobe one hundred percent knocked out of
Speaker 1: the part. But this is another hour podcast talking about
Speaker 1: it like Star Wars all day long. But Kill Bill.
Speaker 1: I know Tarantino can considers it one film as well.
Speaker 1: I believe it was even written as one massive script
Speaker 1: and then the studio said you have to you can't
Speaker 1: make this a four hour film, so he split into
Speaker 1: two parts. But it's one story and I think it
Speaker 1: works as one whole story. You know, a lot of
Speaker 1: sequels are two different stories with the same characters, but
Speaker 1: this is one.
Speaker 6: But when I.
Speaker 1: Watched that on oz Star as a kid, it came
Speaker 1: the first one came. I didn't even know there was
Speaker 1: a part two. I was like, I want to see
Speaker 1: more of this character. I watched it and it was
Speaker 1: just such a like uniquely fascinating way to.
Speaker 6: Tell a story.
Speaker 1: All of these directing styles and choices just seem like
Speaker 1: choices no other directors making. And I was just really
Speaker 1: intrigued by it. And obviously like the revenge element too
Speaker 1: and Uma Thurman. It's brilliant acting, but the action sequences,
Speaker 1: the color, like the style of it all was just
Speaker 1: my first sort of real love for film started with that.
Speaker 3: Well it's funny because we'll talk about The Terminator soon obviously,
Speaker 3: but it reminded me watching The Terminator that is how
Speaker 3: high the body count was in films, Like they really
Speaker 3: just went that.
Speaker 2: They had no there was no like discussions. It seemed like.
Speaker 1: Are we killing too many people?
Speaker 3: To many people dying on our screens here, Like it's
Speaker 3: like if you weren't if you weren't on the call sheet,
Speaker 3: you weren't nobody cared if you lite on that.
Speaker 1: Okay, it's kind of.
Speaker 3: Weird watching it now, seeing the amount of people just
Speaker 3: get mowed down by Arnie and I feel like we're
Speaker 3: where there's the body cants has certainly gone down in films,
Speaker 3: but Kill Bill just celebrated.
Speaker 6: Crazy eighty eight.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the last last half an hour of the film
Speaker 1: is just body count.
Speaker 6: I remember watching it.
Speaker 1: Mom and dad say every time we watch any war movie,
Speaker 1: but they always go, well, who's who's cleaning out the
Speaker 1: TV tomorrow? Because of all the dead bodies that are
Speaker 1: just lying around, And like kill Bill was no exception
Speaker 1: that was.
Speaker 3: And of course he pulls a classic quarantine. I think
Speaker 3: of bringing an actor back from you know, quasi retirement
Speaker 3: in David Karendine. Yeah, yeah, usually what Daryl, Darryl Hannah.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: This really really good casting choices and yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: his voice.
Speaker 6: Bill's voice is just so charming.
Speaker 1: You know, you don't even need to see him and
Speaker 1: you're on board of this as a character. Yeah, he's
Speaker 1: just so so charming and.
Speaker 2: Uma Thurman he is, you know. I mean we'll be
Speaker 2: talking about Lindn Hamilton very soon, but.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just k badass. What an absolute badass woman.
Speaker 3: It's such a smart you know, like it sweet when
Speaker 3: you get that aesthetic right or even wardrobe you get
Speaker 3: the wardrobe right. Yeah, it's just so you know, I
Speaker 3: love thing of those characters who you can just see them.
Speaker 3: They've got their outfit. This is this is a uniform
Speaker 3: for this movie. Yeah, it doesn't have to be less.
Speaker 3: I mean I love Run Lola Run that, you know,
Speaker 3: the German film and Frankie Penta like this shock of
Speaker 3: like red Hair and it's just it's just and she's
Speaker 3: running through Berlin for you know, three times, you know,
Speaker 3: because it plays over and over.
Speaker 1: It's just what the characters too, that you can just
Speaker 1: see the outfit, you know it. I think they said
Speaker 1: about the Simpsons characters they wanted to draw each one
Speaker 1: you that you could know them by their silhouette.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so they made it.
Speaker 1: Like but when you see any sort of like fan
Speaker 1: type movie artwork in any house, you can just have
Speaker 1: the Bride or Beatrice Kiddo, the character in the yellow
Speaker 1: jumpsuit without Uma Thurman's facer, and you know exactly who
Speaker 1: that is, even though it's completely ripped off of was
Speaker 1: it Bruce Lee's crouching Tiger thing it was or whatever
Speaker 1: whatever film that he did with the yellow jumpsuit, Right,
Speaker 1: that's what it's an homage to. So it's like everything's
Speaker 1: how much Everything's March?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, great choice, great choice, Austin Powers.
Speaker 2: Is this again? Austin Powers? All of them?
Speaker 1: I actually probably would say the sequel spoke who Shagged Me?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I was a bit older when that one
Speaker 1: came out, as I said, being a ninety one born baby.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure when the first one came, I mean
Speaker 1: ninety seven or something.
Speaker 2: But I was.
Speaker 1: I was a bit older, and I think I got
Speaker 1: a lot with a lot of the jokes more, but
Speaker 1: also like fat Bastard was was pivotal. Like every single
Speaker 1: family birthday speech or anything I ever did, I just
Speaker 1: did the I just did the fat Bastard fast things, fast,
Speaker 1: Where's your shit? Every single and it was almost like, oh,
Speaker 1: Jackson still on speech, He's gonna do the Austin He's
Speaker 1: going to do the fat Bastard.
Speaker 6: Thing every time. I just loved it.
Speaker 1: I love the characters, and I was a I was
Speaker 1: I'm still to this day a huge Mike Meyers guy.
Speaker 1: Like I watched on VHS the best of Mike Meyers
Speaker 1: on Saturday Night Live when I was very young and
Speaker 1: I watched that and and I said to him, that's
Speaker 1: what I want to do forever. Wow, And I still
Speaker 1: got that copy. It's I just love the characters that
Speaker 1: he did. I really loved like the over the top
Speaker 1: and it's just like it's not relevant anymore either, is it.
Speaker 1: I was saying this to my house mate, like if
Speaker 1: somebody dropped a year baby, you'd be like, not anymore.
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, It's just I'm always a bit sad that
Speaker 3: that kind of happens, is where something gets so becomes
Speaker 3: so massive that eventually people turn on it. Yes, I mean,
Speaker 3: I'm you know, I'm glad I don't live in the
Speaker 3: world where every day somebody's saying.
Speaker 1: Yeah, baby, it's not good anymore. But you know, I
Speaker 1: would hate that.
Speaker 3: I'm glad that when because listen aso pers wasn't necessarily
Speaker 3: my thing, but I'm glad that people stick with it,
Speaker 3: you know, like you hate you know, great where he was.
Speaker 3: We have Sam Taunton and Cameron James who both had
Speaker 3: the wedding singer in the in is their favorite, you know,
Speaker 3: And that's I love that that, you know, I love
Speaker 3: They've comeing and gone wedding singers in one of my
Speaker 3: top three films, and they all had probably a thought
Speaker 3: in their head to kind of go, maybe maybe they put.
Speaker 2: Wedding singer in the top three films and you maybe
Speaker 2: had the same.
Speaker 1: I had to say that, Yeah, I had.
Speaker 6: Mcgroover.
Speaker 1: It's honestly one of my favorite comedies of all time.
Speaker 1: Only it's like, I have this interesting thing where people
Speaker 1: like try and judge you on your choice, like you
Speaker 1: shouldn't have that. It's like it's personal to you exactly. Mcgrooober.
Speaker 1: I watched when I was like seventeen or eighteen, and
Speaker 1: I just I've never laughed so hard, and I just
Speaker 1: watched it over and over and over again. It's just
Speaker 1: such a good go to movie. But I've got it here.
Speaker 1: I'm like, you can't put that in your top three.
Speaker 1: You just can't.
Speaker 6: Like that is that's not up there.
Speaker 1: And Walk Hard is another great comedy, like the Dewey
Speaker 1: Cock Story, which is John c Riley and jud App Tower.
Speaker 1: It's just a it's a it's a mock music biopic,
Speaker 1: and it just copies all of the traits of a
Speaker 1: biopic and just takes the absolute piss out of it.
Speaker 2: It's so good.
Speaker 3: It's so good, it's very funny, and I mean top
Speaker 3: secrets come up a couple of times.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I watched that recently, and I watched sp This
Speaker 1: Is Spinal Tap recently. This is all in the last
Speaker 1: last six months, and I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: how have I not seen these comedies.
Speaker 3: Spinal Tap as well, is like just and you know,
Speaker 3: there's no office with that. No, it's a spinal tap.
Speaker 3: And the improv on that too, is fascinating.
Speaker 1: He's talking about even just the food and he's like,
Speaker 1: you know, this sandwich, I don't know how you do it,
Speaker 1: Like the bread's it's too small. No, no you fold it.
Speaker 1: No I don't, I don't. I don't understand it. It's
Speaker 1: just it's just an you hear him laughing. And those
Speaker 1: are the parts that you love to see, is when
Speaker 1: you know they're breaking character.
Speaker 6: But they're having fun.
Speaker 3: They're having fun, so much fun, and you if you
Speaker 3: get a chance, I'm not sure, hey you do outside
Speaker 3: of the DVDs.
Speaker 2: But commentary on This Is Spinal Tap is as funny
Speaker 2: as the movie.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's them as in character commenting on the film
Speaker 1: and how almost everybody has died, like almost anyone who's
Speaker 1: not in the principal cast, it's been terminated. If you
Speaker 1: know the prisonal cars, you you are dead now?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Their chemistry is phenomenal.
Speaker 1: It's phenomenal changing pace, Am I right? Thinking? The impossible
Speaker 1: is the Naomi? What's CORREAMI coct ye want to change
Speaker 1: your tone?
Speaker 7: Though?
Speaker 1: Funny Jackson fastings and then there was a tsunami and
Speaker 1: many died. I wonder what fat bastard would think that
Speaker 1: would be impossible.
Speaker 6: Warning him into that film like a post credits.
Speaker 1: Scene inflatable doughnut in the pool in.
Speaker 2: The middle of the ocean.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what the fuck happened there? He's great, very stunningly
Speaker 1: done and very powerful, very powerful. I think the reason
Speaker 1: it was one of my favorites. I just moved to Melbourne.
Speaker 1: I was studying acting, and I guess it's that I
Speaker 1: was maybe nineteen twenty at the time, so I was
Speaker 1: living that very young artist lifestyle of We had four actors,
Speaker 1: me and three other women living in a two bedroom apartment.
Speaker 1: We had put a curtain up in the middle of
Speaker 1: the lound room when that half is your bedroom. We
Speaker 1: legitimately put a swag in the cupboard under the stairs,
Speaker 1: and that was another person's bedroom. It was just one
Speaker 1: of this like really artsy community where we just watch movies.
Speaker 3: And we watched them those actresses when Nicole Kibben, Naomi
Speaker 3: and Kate Leanchez all.
Speaker 1: Three and they went off to do good stuff and
Speaker 1: I'm slowly climbing the ladder to catch them. But I
Speaker 1: remember watching it and it was just one of those
Speaker 1: films that made me really feel an emotion. If you've
Speaker 1: seen it, yeah, I mean it starts with like the
Speaker 1: first ten minutes is how beautiful and peaceful and tranquil
Speaker 1: the ocean can be. And then in the space of
Speaker 1: like ten seconds, it's twenty minutes of the wave hitting
Speaker 1: you're gripping on the seat, you don't breathe the whole time,
Speaker 1: and then when it when that sort of calms down,
Speaker 1: you exhale and you unclench and you just go holy crap.
Speaker 1: And I think the reason the director did that was
Speaker 1: because that's how it was. You were the people there
Speaker 1: were enjoying their day, and then in the span of
Speaker 1: ten seconds their life changed completely. And I remember looking
Speaker 1: at my housemate Inmby when the movie finished and she
Speaker 1: had like mascaa down to her shins. It was she
Speaker 1: was just so emotional, so was I and I was
Speaker 1: just going wow.
Speaker 6: I remember calling my parents the next day and like,
Speaker 6: I love you guys. I just want to let you know, and.
Speaker 2: Let's never go to Tiland.
Speaker 6: Let's never go.
Speaker 1: Let's never know. But it was great and I remember
Speaker 1: watching it and saying to her at the end of it.
Speaker 1: And a lot of people say this with hindsight, but
Speaker 1: I remember saying that young that young boy is going
Speaker 1: to be an absolute star, that young actor in that film, Tom.
Speaker 2: Holand Tom Hold, yes, right, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6: Tom holand this is twenty thirteen. I'm like, he is phenomenal.
Speaker 1: All the acting you acting when he calls back home
Speaker 1: is just should have got an Oscar at least a nom. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think there should be an Oscar for best performance
Speaker 3: in a scene.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, because they may not.
Speaker 2: You know, you may not.
Speaker 3: You agree, you may not win an Oscar for that
Speaker 3: entire before even it's very good, obviously, but that's scene.
Speaker 3: And sometimes you sometimes you remember scenes, Yeah, over a laftime,
Speaker 3: you maybe remember more scenes than you actually remember complete performances.
Speaker 6: We'll go one, I'll go you one.
Speaker 2: Further.
Speaker 1: We'll go twenty twenty three. The oscar for best show
Speaker 1: real would be a better way to do it. The
Speaker 1: best show, real scene, real scene. Yeah yeah, what are
Speaker 1: you putting on to get your next Give us your
Speaker 1: best three minutes and we'll give you an oscar. Whoever
Speaker 1: was three minutes of acting is the best?
Speaker 2: I like it. I like it now. He Naomi wats
Speaker 2: Is She was great.
Speaker 1: I mean I watched it with Mum two after this
Speaker 1: visceral experience, hoping she would have the same thing. But
Speaker 1: that cold hearted bitch had a different reaction. Really, I
Speaker 1: watched it whether and you know how sad it all is.
Speaker 1: It's just so emotional. It's about family being separated by
Speaker 1: the wave and then coming back together and finding each
Speaker 1: other spoiler it. And then at the end of it,
Speaker 1: I mean, you see the debris of the whole thing,
Speaker 1: and I just I'm crying again. I lean across to her,
Speaker 1: I said, what do you think she goes That's why
Speaker 1: you get travel insurance. I'm like, Mama, did you missed
Speaker 1: the whole point of the movie. She's a nurse too.
Speaker 1: She was appalled at the state of the hospitals the
Speaker 1: whole time that's not how you put an IV trip in.
Speaker 1: I was like, mum, it's a movie and they're going
Speaker 1: through a disaster right now, like they're making do it so.
Speaker 3: That you're absolutely right as far as going the devastation
Speaker 3: of seeing and they do it so well in that
Speaker 3: movie where people are living their lives and then it's
Speaker 3: their lives have changed like that. And I often in
Speaker 3: my darker, grimmer moments, you know, think about you know
Speaker 3: those people sometimes the most I guess the most famous
Speaker 3: one is the Towers and there's those people who were
Speaker 3: just living their lives at work. Yeah, you know, thinking, oh,
Speaker 3: nothing's you know, like we always feel like if we're
Speaker 3: going to be put in danger, we'll have at least
Speaker 3: enough time to kind of feel like we're in danger,
Speaker 3: like all of a sudden. Like I do not say
Speaker 3: this to be funny at all, but they were. There
Speaker 3: were what are the people in the Towers in the bathroom,
Speaker 3: you know, just kind of going, you know, on their
Speaker 3: phones or you know, maybe not phones back then, but
Speaker 3: but just living their last thing about what they had
Speaker 3: to do next door, you know, something that might have
Speaker 3: been going on home, and then they were just yeah maybe.
Speaker 1: I mean I rewatched The Impossible because I was right
Speaker 1: before COVID hit. I was in Thailand with from my
Speaker 1: last ever holiday, not hopefully not ever, but my last holiday,
Speaker 1: and we're on the beach and made my mate at
Speaker 1: the time goes, what would happen if a tsunami hit?
Speaker 1: And I was like, man, we got to watch this
Speaker 1: film when we get home because we got no hope.
Speaker 2: No hope.
Speaker 1: You can't outrun it, and you just got to get
Speaker 1: to high ground.
Speaker 3: High ground. Follow the animals. The animals, No, they do
Speaker 3: great stuff.
Speaker 1: At this point. We didn't get more Fat Bastard in
Speaker 1: The Impossible chat, but I like to see a mash
Speaker 1: out someone, Someone please put fat Bastard in that.
Speaker 7: Listen and understand that terminator is out there.
Speaker 1: It can't be bargained with. It can't be reasoned with.
Speaker 1: It doesn't feel pity or remorse or fear, and it
Speaker 1: absolutely will not stop ever until you are dead.
Speaker 5: Can you stop it?
Speaker 1: I don't know, but let's talk about it all right.
Speaker 3: Nine to eighty four The arrival of three Icons, in
Speaker 3: particular Arnold Schwarzenegger and James camer but not to do
Speaker 3: throw any shade at Linda Hamill and what a performance
Speaker 3: are from her, and again where she takes Sarah Connor
Speaker 3: count too.
Speaker 2: You will find out did you like it?
Speaker 1: I loved it.
Speaker 6: I genuinely loved it.
Speaker 1: And I feel guilty as someone who works in film
Speaker 1: TV is not seeing it. I send you all these
Speaker 1: films I hadn't seen, and I started typing. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I got to stop. I'm getting ashamed at how many
Speaker 1: good films I have not seen, and this was one
Speaker 1: of them. And I haven't seen t too. I don't
Speaker 1: know where I know the character is so is so hailed,
Speaker 1: but even the journey she goes on in the first
Speaker 1: one is fascinating. She goes from just being such a
Speaker 1: vulnerable character to have and some guts about her in
Speaker 1: the end, And it was even in the course of
Speaker 1: that was it was just fascinating. I mean, I'm interested
Speaker 1: to see what happens.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, she's a waitress who you know, is stuffing
Speaker 3: up orders and a kid puts a scoop of ice cream.
Speaker 1: What a little like lets him get away with that?
Speaker 3: His parents, I must have you heard it, But his
Speaker 3: parents while he's doing that, arguing about who's going to
Speaker 3: leave the tip?
Speaker 1: Asshole parents. That's generally how just his thought process was,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put this ice cream right in her pocket,
Speaker 1: like what a prick, and no one does anything.
Speaker 6: She just gets walked over.
Speaker 3: I want to see what I would liked to have seen,
Speaker 3: even as end credit sequence is the terminator to take
Speaker 3: him out.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, ye definitely hunt definitely should have hunted him
Speaker 1: and just hum, it's funny mentioned and the parents.
Speaker 6: And the parents too. The parents need to go first.
Speaker 1: It's funny you mentioned the credits because what I loved
Speaker 1: about these opening credits is it was back in those
Speaker 1: days where they make you watch the opening credits, you know,
Speaker 1: and now they sort of shoehorn them in over like
Speaker 1: narrative structure or like there's you know, they'll show visuals.
Speaker 1: It's like now it's like hiding the veggies under the meat,
Speaker 1: whereas back then it's like, no, you have to watch this,
Speaker 1: you have to watch it all. It's just like it's
Speaker 1: random screen with the text and the score of this
Speaker 1: music of this movie. It's beautiful. It's so eighties. It's
Speaker 1: like a kitten running across the synth.
Speaker 6: It's like.
Speaker 3: It really is really eight I mean it's it's I mean,
Speaker 3: in one way the ages.
Speaker 2: You know quite well.
Speaker 3: I mean you're right to step up from teach to
Speaker 3: T two, which I've watched not that long ago, and
Speaker 3: it still holds up really well. There are some things
Speaker 3: about this, you know, Linda Hamilton's hair for you, just
Speaker 3: for one. But you know, and even before we get
Speaker 3: to the know the skeletal terminator.
Speaker 6: The stop motion stop motion.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's even even and this always happens in films.
Speaker 3: You know, the biggest answer machine I've ever seen in
Speaker 3: my life. Yeah, yeah, it was so massive, it was
Speaker 3: the size of an old DVD.
Speaker 1: Can we stop using those? Because movies loved answering machines
Speaker 1: for like Expedition Dialogue.
Speaker 3: I can't I had maybe like one, like we had
Speaker 3: an answer machine for you know, maybe for like much
Speaker 3: a lot they almost felt like almost was more digital than.
Speaker 1: Pay to hear your your answering machine. Well, it would
Speaker 1: have been so funny and playful.
Speaker 3: I'm not sure if he's if he still does it,
Speaker 3: but good mate Stephen Curry puts he used to put
Speaker 3: a lot of effort into his voicemail message.
Speaker 1: He would absolutely like a lot of effort. He would
Speaker 1: have been the birth of that stupid one. People do
Speaker 1: now they go, hello, Hello, Nah, it's just joking. I'm
Speaker 1: not actually here right now. I Reckon Curry invented that.
Speaker 1: That's got his dirty fingerprints all over it.
Speaker 3: And Dave thought, and I'm thinking of you, right. He
Speaker 3: got me recently that one I love listening to, like
Speaker 3: older you know, like parents leaving their voicemail messages. My
Speaker 3: mum does one where she says, Hi, you've called Helen.
Speaker 3: I can't get to the phone right now, but just
Speaker 3: leave a message after the hash.
Speaker 1: Mom. It's after the beep the hash. It doesn't mean that,
Speaker 1: it doesn't mean something completely different at that point, it
Speaker 1: really does. Yeah, so it's eighty four.
Speaker 2: I mean, he arrives. Let's just talk about the arrival.
Speaker 2: It happens.
Speaker 3: In fact, let's have a listen. He arrives naked, not
Speaker 3: a thread on him. Let's have a listen.
Speaker 1: Washed it tomorrow, nothing clean, right?
Speaker 2: Nothing clean? Right?
Speaker 1: I think this guy's a couple of cans short of
Speaker 1: a six pack.
Speaker 5: You're close.
Speaker 2: Give them to me now, fuck you asshole. Nothing like
Speaker 2: eighties toughs.
Speaker 6: Eighties toughs.
Speaker 1: I've written it out, eighties tofts.
Speaker 6: Get these the hair?
Speaker 1: Is that a young Bill Paxton as well.
Speaker 3: Bill Paxson is so funny because he becomes such a
Speaker 3: like a character who's so an actor, who's so be loved,
Speaker 3: and plays often roles that are kind of, you know,
Speaker 3: the sensible voice in the room.
Speaker 6: And pivotal to the eighties and nineties, I feel.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, But in the I think maybe Twister might have
Speaker 3: been the turning point. You know, when he started playing
Speaker 3: you know, the reasonable voice in the room kind of rolls,
Speaker 3: but early on he played some douchebags and weird science.
Speaker 3: I'm not sure you've seen that. He's the brother and
Speaker 3: he is just he is just a beast.
Speaker 1: I feel like my first exposure to him would have
Speaker 1: been Titanic, Jimmy Campen's follow up, and he was great
Speaker 1: in that, he was really great. And this is so
Speaker 1: funny because he's got the purple spiky hair out and
Speaker 1: how quickly does it escalate with eighties tufts, give me
Speaker 1: your clothes, whips out a knife?
Speaker 3: Yeah seriously though, like, yes, he's not wearing clothes and
Speaker 3: he's got his wang hair and we'll get.
Speaker 2: Back to that in a second.
Speaker 6: Please, but are you really going to pick a fight?
Speaker 1: Look at him, Look at him and they're not strongest man,
Speaker 1: They're not the only ones.
Speaker 3: Throughout the film, people are kind of going, hey, Dick,
Speaker 3: and you know, yeah, they're taking him onm get out
Speaker 3: of his way.
Speaker 1: Yeah. But you see him just rip a door off
Speaker 1: a car and someone's like, hey, you can't do it.
Speaker 1: I'd be running the other direction. Don't stick around, like, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's obviously going to beat you in a fight. I
Speaker 1: don't care if you've got a knife. He's massive. His
Speaker 1: hog itself could knock all three of you out mine.
Speaker 1: I fail, sweet, I was.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'd forgotten about the I can't believe I'd
Speaker 3: forgotten about it.
Speaker 1: But eighties tufts, they're just they're bullies for the sake
Speaker 1: of it. And I always find it funny when they
Speaker 1: just laugh. You six can short of a pack and
Speaker 1: they're like nudging each other. You got him, buddy, you
Speaker 1: got him?
Speaker 6: Fucked you up.
Speaker 2: Oh it's so good.
Speaker 1: It's so good.
Speaker 6: When did you last watch it?
Speaker 2: I watched it last night.
Speaker 1: How relevant is the very first thing Arnie does when
Speaker 1: he gets to America. He goes to a gun shot Yeah,
Speaker 1: and he buys several assault weapons, and the guy behind
Speaker 1: the counter just goes, yeah, heause are all great for
Speaker 1: self defense.
Speaker 2: I know, it was hard not to think about the eighties.
Speaker 1: This is how ingrained that is.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I wrote down what he asked for.
Speaker 1: He asked for a twelve gage auto loader, forty five
Speaker 1: longside with laser sighting, a face plasma rifle in a
Speaker 1: forty what range, which I think is just made up.
Speaker 1: That doesn't sound like a real gun, and an oozy
Speaker 1: nine millimeter for self defense. Self defense. Oh, that country's
Speaker 1: almost up. First thing he does is goes and kills
Speaker 1: two of the wrong women.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well he kills he doesn't pay for it. He
Speaker 3: kills the guy at the counter, that's right, he does,
Speaker 3: and then he just it's yeah, it's really it did
Speaker 3: play on my mind for all and then it made
Speaker 3: me think about this, that body count and this. It
Speaker 3: just kind of brought home how and growing up in
Speaker 3: the agies you didn't think about it.
Speaker 2: You think these are.
Speaker 6: Movies, just movies.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then the older you get, you're gonna go, yeah,
Speaker 3: they're movies. But it's also ingrained in America culture in
Speaker 3: a way that it's never been in Australia.
Speaker 1: You know how they blame video games for violence and
Speaker 1: stuff too. You got this film in the ages, and
Speaker 1: even that's cliply just played. He rips out the guy's
Speaker 1: heart with his bare hands. It's ingrained in all that violence. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's crazy. The first thing I saw when he did that.
Speaker 1: And then he's naming all these really dangerous assault weapons
Speaker 1: and the guy's like, yeah, good for self defense. But
Speaker 1: he even says to him, it's a fifteen day weight
Speaker 1: on the handguns, but the rifles you can take right now.
Speaker 6: Crazy.
Speaker 1: I was watching it just going, oh my god.
Speaker 3: I never understood with the Americans this high idea. Not
Speaker 3: all Americans, sorry, those who are you anti kind of
Speaker 3: gun control, that the whole you can't change the Second Amendment.
Speaker 3: It's like they don't need more guns, they need a
Speaker 3: fucking dictionary.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Jim Jeffrey summed it up perfect.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, there's thirty three amendments.
Speaker 1: Yeah, fucking thirty three. The best thing I think Jim
Speaker 1: Jeffrey said in that is like we have in that
Speaker 1: comedy bit that I'm sure everyone's seen, is that we
Speaker 1: have we have one in Australia. We don't know what
Speaker 1: it says, but we'll check it if like if we
Speaker 1: need We don't know what our Constitution, says, I wondn't
Speaker 1: have any clue.
Speaker 3: I had a conversation with color of American friends Greg
Speaker 3: Brandt and Ryan Hamilton we're doing a show together at
Speaker 3: the Opera House years ago, and they asked me that
Speaker 3: same question. They said, you know, what's your constitution? You
Speaker 3: know what does it stand for? And I said, I
Speaker 3: don't know. I said, do you have a constitution? I
Speaker 3: said yeah. I said it's probably written on the back
Speaker 3: of a bee coast or something. We don't really know.
Speaker 3: And I the thing that even even Americans who are
Speaker 3: like want gun reform and you know, kind of anti guns,
Speaker 3: and that's a spectrum of you like, what does that
Speaker 3: mean exactly? I really hear Americans say this constitution that
Speaker 3: we are beholden to is not is not serving us. Well, No,
Speaker 3: this bit of paper written by old white men over
Speaker 3: two hundred years ago, a lot of it's irrelevant now,
Speaker 3: Like these are these are time They wrote this when
Speaker 3: it took three minutes to reload a musket. Yeah yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: like not semi automatic weapons were not part of the
Speaker 3: discussion around that table when they wrote this.
Speaker 6: You could argue the same for the Bible.
Speaker 1: But we're starting to get into a into an area
Speaker 1: that I have no knowledge on.
Speaker 3: No, but certainly I think when you watch Terminator and
Speaker 3: we're watching this about ten days after.
Speaker 1: I know, but the same as Obi Wan. You know,
Speaker 1: there's a scene in that which they Disney have released
Speaker 1: a statement saying give and recent events, just be wary
Speaker 1: of this scene in the first episode. So it's you know,
Speaker 1: there's things that are around their control. But what I
Speaker 1: what I actually found super fascinating about this movie because
Speaker 1: I like to watch it and then I go back
Speaker 1: and watch the second time and I read the IMDb trivia.
Speaker 1: Did you know who they actually originally wanted you? They
Speaker 1: wanted to play the Terminato j Simpson, but they thought
Speaker 1: that he was too nice to play a murderer.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's so so good.
Speaker 1: As part of you think that what he ended up
Speaker 1: allegedly doing was just to get back at the studio
Speaker 1: show you that cast me he lost his naked gun contractor.
Speaker 1: I could not imagine this movie with oj in that role.
Speaker 3: It's it's I mean, it's one of the fun things
Speaker 3: to look back on him go because you yeah, who else,
Speaker 3: Like I know, if that Kyle Reese Sting was also.
Speaker 1: Which you know, that would have been good. He can
Speaker 1: kind of see how that would work.
Speaker 3: But yeah, it is hard to think of anyone else
Speaker 3: than Arnold Schwarzenegger playing this role and it becomes it's
Speaker 3: such an iconic performance. Do you think Schwarzenegger's performance is
Speaker 3: genius or do you just think it's kind of who
Speaker 3: he is and they got they just got him to
Speaker 3: say the line enough times that they got it.
Speaker 2: Eventually they got.
Speaker 1: One currently, I'll be back was meant to be i
Speaker 1: will come back, I think was originally the scripted line.
Speaker 1: And what I think is it's genius. He has to
Speaker 1: be He's the only one who can do it. And
Speaker 1: I don't believe it's creative acting choices. I think his
Speaker 1: performance was so bad that it was good. He's playing
Speaker 1: a robot. He can't he can't show emotion. He has
Speaker 1: to be so genius, but genius. James Cameron's James Cameron genius. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I tend to agree with that. Oh, j would milkott,
Speaker 1: he'd really try and sell it.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, put some sass in there.
Speaker 3: But Arnie, like, I'm not removing all props to him,
Speaker 3: you know, like he got.
Speaker 1: Better over the years, he became a fun actor to works.
Speaker 3: And they became because he only does He's only done
Speaker 3: Cone in the Barbarian before this.
Speaker 1: Yes, and then and which was a you know, a
Speaker 1: hit to.
Speaker 3: A degree I think I think I'm running probably saying
Speaker 3: it's like a cult hit. And then he then he
Speaker 3: does this, and it sets up like people. I think
Speaker 3: people then looked at this and thought, oh, I know
Speaker 3: how to write for.
Speaker 1: This guy, you know, to give him.
Speaker 3: Or lines that become iconic, like I'll be back. It's
Speaker 3: funny because I'll be back is not the line itself
Speaker 3: is nothing special, but it's it's it's what happens next, Yeah,
Speaker 3: And then it's a delivery, and then what happens next?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 3: He comes back in a fucking car and drives through
Speaker 3: the police station.
Speaker 1: This is what I mean by saying it's a comedy.
Speaker 1: So I'd obviously heard that line a billion times without context,
Speaker 1: and I always thought it was a threat.
Speaker 6: I'll be back.
Speaker 1: I thought it was a threat, but when I I
Speaker 1: watched it, it's comedic relief. He says it. He says
Speaker 1: you can't come in, He sizes up the structure of
Speaker 1: the building and then says I'll be back, And were
Speaker 1: as the audience know he's coming back to do some damage.
Speaker 1: It's a joke, it's not said as a threat, and
Speaker 1: it just changed everything. I'm like, oh, one of the
Speaker 1: most famous movie lines. I had the wrong interpretation of it.
Speaker 1: But you're right, it's his delivery. It's his delivery.
Speaker 3: And there's also another line which is great, which actually
Speaker 3: not his line. It's Kyle Reese's line when he says,
Speaker 3: come with me if you want to live. Arnie delivers
Speaker 3: that funnily enough in the next one.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, because I've heard everyone say it in the
Speaker 1: Arnie voice, and I can't do it. I can't do
Speaker 1: the Arnie.
Speaker 6: You can't do that as a character actor.
Speaker 1: I can do impressions and stuff I love doing, like
Speaker 1: Hilltop Woods is great. You know, I wonder the room
Speaker 1: with the day when like I do like David Kosh,
Speaker 1: I love doing really funny ones. Right, cannot do Arnie.
Speaker 1: It's just like I'll be but I can't do it. It's
Speaker 1: because it's like it's an open layup, it's a Mulligan
Speaker 1: golf shot. It's too easy. But I can't do it.
Speaker 3: I'm not an impression guy at all, so I never
Speaker 3: quite commit to doing it. Robe does a very good
Speaker 3: Arnie that's always made me, made me love to give
Speaker 3: you Koshi just while we're here.
Speaker 1: I just I just watched the clip during lockdown, and
Speaker 1: I just felt like the thing Koshi does is he
Speaker 1: half commits to a controversial opinion, like, ah, Matt, I'm
Speaker 1: not sure women should breastfeed in public? Should they? I
Speaker 1: might be getting the wrong idea. It's always half commits.
Speaker 1: I did love. Actually, fans of eighties movies will did
Speaker 1: you did you clock Arnie when he one of the
Speaker 1: first cars he takes is that the Griswold's Old Family
Speaker 1: Trust didn't know that, but I know that that car
Speaker 1: pops up in many films.
Speaker 3: It's only because it's it's one, because it's it's such
Speaker 3: an iconic car. In that movie, it's the car that
Speaker 3: Eugene Levy sells Chevy Chase when you're supposed to get
Speaker 3: another car. But it hadn't come in very funny scene
Speaker 3: in that in the National Olympion's Vacation, Eugene Levy, now.
Speaker 1: Remember Holiday Road, like like a movie had a song
Speaker 1: that was so specific to it. We don't have that
Speaker 1: much anymore. Like slid On's My heart will go. There's
Speaker 1: a song that starts playing, and you know the movie
Speaker 1: straight away don't really do that much anymore.
Speaker 2: No, you're right. Actually it's an interesting point.
Speaker 3: And so the car is such a pivotal so and
Speaker 3: also that car just didn't never existed in Australia. So
Speaker 3: the family truckster, I actually thought for a while they
Speaker 3: made up that car for family vacation. Yeah, vacation. But
Speaker 3: to see Arnie driver, I thought was made me laugh.
Speaker 3: I did mention Bill Paxton, yea before what was his
Speaker 3: career like at this point, Well, he was still he
Speaker 3: was still pretty fresh. But he goes on makes Command.
Speaker 3: He's in Commander, He's in Predator too, is in True Lies?
Speaker 1: Is he the famous line Game over Man Game Over?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 1: So it goes on to really watching.
Speaker 2: Titanic. I mentioned earlier with James Cameron, So I.
Speaker 3: Imagine when I see that, I think, and all reports
Speaker 3: and he said he died a couple of years ago,
Speaker 3: but I I assume and I only heard that he
Speaker 3: was a lovely guy. Yeah, And I mean you see
Speaker 3: people kind of somewhat James Cameron going, well, you know,
Speaker 3: we'll get Paxston in and let's let's let's find a
Speaker 3: rob with Paxton.
Speaker 6: Yeah, there's some actors you just know like you'd love
Speaker 6: to work with.
Speaker 1: You just know they're going to be lovable people, yourself included.
Speaker 3: Come on, I was looking down at my note and
Speaker 3: I so if that seemed like I was genuinely taking
Speaker 3: that complement in, I wasn't. I was looking down at
Speaker 3: my We did have a fun time on How to
Speaker 3: Stay Married.
Speaker 1: You know, I drank your sperm, you checked my sperm.
Speaker 1: You wrote that, and then and then we're paid to
Speaker 1: make that. Yeah, and I.
Speaker 3: You you committed way too much. I mean, I mean,
Speaker 3: I wasn't prepared for I knew I'd made it. Give
Speaker 3: you exactly what I needed to give you. For you
Speaker 3: to know I had made it, I went.
Speaker 1: I had a zoom call with my family that night,
Speaker 1: and I approached it like Obama killing you know, I've
Speaker 1: been loadin. I approached it with mom, dad, Andrew Bradley,
Speaker 1: extended family members.
Speaker 2: We did it.
Speaker 6: We finally made it. We finally made it.
Speaker 1: That was a fun day though, That was a really fun.
Speaker 3: Fun That was one of the early days I think
Speaker 3: of shooting. Yeah, the first series of How to Stay Married?
Speaker 3: It was really fun. With yourself and Phil Lloyd and
Speaker 3: Daryl gilsenan the what do you think of Kyle Reese.
Speaker 1: So here's what's fussing. I hadn't seen obviously either of
Speaker 1: the films, but you know with these classic films, you've
Speaker 1: sort of seen clips here and there.
Speaker 6: You know who's who.
Speaker 1: I know, very famously the bad guy in the second one,
Speaker 1: you know, looking at him the police out for an
Speaker 1: He shows up in Wayne's world too, as like a
Speaker 1: little cameo, which was hilarious. I didn't even know that
Speaker 1: there was this character was in this Kyle Reese. I
Speaker 1: didn't even know, never seen him before, didn't even know
Speaker 1: that there was a male love interest. Didn't understand the
Speaker 1: importance of this guy in the Terminator franchise. So I was.
Speaker 1: I was pleasantly surprised. He's such an eighties action hero.
Speaker 1: When they have the flash forward to like when the
Speaker 1: machines are taken over, and you know, like in the eighties,
Speaker 1: they just give people like a bit of bandanna for
Speaker 1: no reason to wrap around their head, like what is
Speaker 1: that he doesn't have long hair? Like what is that doing?
Speaker 1: It's just to make him look cool. He's just such
Speaker 1: a he was cool.
Speaker 6: He was cool.
Speaker 1: There was a little creepy when you really think about
Speaker 1: like his mentor his best friend, John Connors. Is he
Speaker 1: spoilers obviously he's his son, but also like the whole
Speaker 1: time he's got a crush on that guy's mum.
Speaker 3: It's based off a photo. Okay, let's drill down on
Speaker 3: this because we've got to talk about this. It's so interesting.
Speaker 3: So Carl Reese is in the future with John Connor.
Speaker 3: John Connor gives him a photograph of his mum, which
Speaker 3: is weird in itself. Yeah, and he basically loves that photo.
Speaker 3: Let's face he jokes.
Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, I've got a I'm gonna be back
Speaker 1: in a little bit car. You in there, don't em in,
Speaker 1: don't don't come in, don't get in.
Speaker 6: I'm just uploading my gun.
Speaker 3: So then volunteers to go back to protect her so
Speaker 3: that we didn't cover this kind of territory in the
Speaker 3: Frankie Fish books that I which is traveling time traveling sagas.
Speaker 1: There's some logic to it that doesn't add up. So
Speaker 1: he goes back.
Speaker 2: Did he go back knowing that he was going to? Like?
Speaker 1: Is that?
Speaker 3: Because there's a version of this movie, which is like
Speaker 3: a rom com you know, where he's going back and
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 1: And there's a version of this history where where Sarah
Speaker 1: swallows John and doesn't actually have him.
Speaker 8: In the end.
Speaker 1: There's so many alternatives to this movie. Because I actually reckon,
Speaker 1: I don't think he went back to save the world.
Speaker 3: I reckon.
Speaker 1: He's like, I get to go back and meet your
Speaker 1: mum and her Brian. I'm going I'm on board.
Speaker 6: Yeah, let's do it.
Speaker 1: Does she still look is definitely look this hot?
Speaker 6: Yeah, term, I'll take care of that. I'll take her
Speaker 6: of that. But where is she?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 6: And her elopes? Likes the elopes?
Speaker 1: Okay, because even at the end, she's she's making her
Speaker 1: voice recordings to John and I didn't even realize. He says,
Speaker 1: like within hours they only knew each other for hours.
Speaker 1: He got to work quick, they got to work.
Speaker 2: Really wait, it was ninety four. You know.
Speaker 4: You'll find its way probably will never be overwhelming. Look
Speaker 4: at me, I'm shake some legend. You must be pretty disappointed.
Speaker 1: No, I'm not, Kyle.
Speaker 4: The women in your time, what are they like?
Speaker 5: Good fighters? That's not what I meant is there's someone special, someone.
Speaker 1: A girl you know, No, never.
Speaker 5: Never, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry.
Speaker 3: So much pain.
Speaker 4: Pain can be controlled.
Speaker 1: You're just disconnected, so you feel nothing.
Speaker 7: John Connor gave me a picture of you once. I
Speaker 7: didn't know why at the time, very old torn faded here,
Speaker 7: we're young like you are now. It seemed just a
Speaker 7: little sad. I used to always wonder what you were
Speaker 7: thinking at that moment. I rememorized every line, every curve
Speaker 7: I came across the time for you, Sarah. I love you,
Speaker 7: I always have.
Speaker 2: Can I try?
Speaker 6: Can I go a nightclub? Be like, come with me
Speaker 6: if you want to live? And I just tell you
Speaker 6: this whole spiel of like, yeah, I need you.
Speaker 1: You know you have a son and you need to
Speaker 1: you need to do It's just there's a bit there's
Speaker 1: a bit of creepiness to it as well, like he
Speaker 1: knew what he was coming back to do.
Speaker 6: He even says, I was I'm in love with you
Speaker 6: based off So.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So either he's going back knowing that he's going
Speaker 3: to be the father of John Connor, oh, that he's
Speaker 3: getting in first, which means that John Connor will be
Speaker 3: a different John Connor. Yeah, and like you said, kind
Speaker 3: of could have been swallowed John Connor could have ended up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. Yeah, during Lockdown, I had a sock
Speaker 1: that was nearly in its third trimester, but he was.
Speaker 1: It was a complete it's a completely different movie. But
Speaker 1: also there's a sense of responsibility. Like they obviously dance
Speaker 1: around the time travel logic. Obviously, but surely if you're
Speaker 1: going back to the past knowing this woman is going
Speaker 1: to give birth to the future of van kind, you
Speaker 1: wouldn't You wouldn't toy with no with that, like you
Speaker 1: wouldn't get in the way.
Speaker 2: He's strict.
Speaker 1: That's the butterfly effect, right, you know, don't go back
Speaker 1: and don't don't don't don't see your past self although
Speaker 1: he wasn't existing, but just it's interesting what his logic was. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you think you have.
Speaker 2: A very strict set of guidelines. This is what I
Speaker 2: have to do.
Speaker 1: This is the mission to save humankind. But no, because he's.
Speaker 6: I think he's a creep.
Speaker 1: I'm coming into it, and when I watch it again,
Speaker 1: I think he's a bit of a creep because even
Speaker 1: when I think the police are looking after chasing after them,
Speaker 1: there's once and he just gets ahead and goes get
Speaker 1: down and just puts it onto his lap. I'm just like,
Speaker 1: what he could have just said get down, and he's like, oh,
Speaker 1: you could get down. The cops are looking, and just
Speaker 1: smashes her head into his lap.
Speaker 3: That that's that's when, that's when Fiona kind of gets swallowed.
Speaker 6: Look and layer situation changes everything.
Speaker 1: It is.
Speaker 2: It is strange, but she does.
Speaker 3: She does bring it to him a little bit, like
Speaker 3: she she comes on to him a little bit. I mean,
Speaker 3: she definitely does the line in the hotel room of
Speaker 3: like what a girl's.
Speaker 1: Like in the future, so and an interesting sex scene
Speaker 1: the way they shot it. I mean what I earlier
Speaker 1: on when her housemate gets killed. I mean, you watch
Speaker 1: any movie from the seventies in the eighties, if there's
Speaker 1: a young couple having sex, you're like, they're gonna die?
Speaker 1: Like is that because I wasn't around them?
Speaker 2: But is that?
Speaker 1: Is that to like counteract the free love of the
Speaker 1: sixties and seventies where everyone was having sex, and the
Speaker 1: eighties are like, we're gonna make movies to teach kids
Speaker 1: that if you have sex before you're married, you will die.
Speaker 4: Oh.
Speaker 6: The eighties really horny too.
Speaker 2: They were very horny.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but they are so because those are you.
Speaker 3: Kind of slash of films, but there's a lot of
Speaker 3: also comedies like Your Revenge, Revenge of the Nerds, where.
Speaker 6: These age great.
Speaker 3: No, it doesn't age great, and the repercussions for such
Speaker 3: behavior almost non existent. No, So so it's all balanced out,
Speaker 3: I think.
Speaker 1: But even it's just shot with like it goes for
Speaker 1: twenty five seconds, so you know, above average for most
Speaker 1: of us, and it's just this wide shot and a
Speaker 1: few close ups and it just it's an odd scene
Speaker 1: how they shot it, interestingly, got a hand grabbing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and there's you know, Linda Hamilton breasts exposed, the
Speaker 3: whole thing where women get exposed more than the men do.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 3: Actually, a fair boy give me on his hog. I
Speaker 3: do think in James Cameron's thinking that if this is
Speaker 3: the birth of John Connor, you do need to kind
Speaker 3: of make something.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure he does a great job of it, Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I.
Speaker 3: Think the intention of showing it is a reasonable intention.
Speaker 3: I'm not sure if he nails it with the slow
Speaker 3: motion hand grasp that was.
Speaker 1: Just to show that they're passionate, but that doesn't tell
Speaker 1: me anything.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think John has arrived.
Speaker 1: You did the same watching the Colin Will Carlton game.
Speaker 1: You would grab it to the cast to say like
Speaker 1: it could show passionate, could show like anything.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 2: I was holding Stephen Carry's hands very tight in that
Speaker 2: last quarter.
Speaker 1: But it's also interesting how they shoot sex scenes, I
Speaker 1: mean nowadays, and this is the greatest job that I
Speaker 1: think has been added to our industry as the intimacy
Speaker 1: coordinator who and mikaylab Bannis is one I've worked with
Speaker 1: many times and it's a great job where they come
Speaker 1: in and they essentially take assumption off the table. They
Speaker 1: don't assume that you're going to have your tits out.
Speaker 1: There would be a conversation beforehand. Are you comfortable with this? So,
Speaker 1: I mean, the eighties and nineties had a lot national
Speaker 1: lampoons that they're just breasts in every comedy film back then, because.
Speaker 6: That's what was was that just the audience.
Speaker 3: Porky's Porky sapped and every Revenge of the Nerds is
Speaker 3: kind of popularized, and they were popular and people yeah, boys, yeah,
Speaker 3: And that's what those kind of movies went away, and
Speaker 3: they kind of brought back a little bit with the
Speaker 3: hangover movies kind of yeah, like kind of gross out
Speaker 3: kind of sex comedies.
Speaker 1: You know, you can be empowering at.
Speaker 6: The same time, but a lot of the times it
Speaker 6: just seems like it was there to Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think the more recent ones have balanced it up
Speaker 3: a bit as opposed to yeah, it was all just Oh,
Speaker 3: Scott Bayer can make a heavy lotlirs blouse pop over.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, exactly. There is some.
Speaker 3: Eighties kind of coincidence. I'm mu sure it's lazy writing.
Speaker 3: Maybe it is. But when she when she does call, well,
Speaker 3: when Arnie takes out the boyfriend, yeah, Rick Rossovic, you know,
Speaker 3: goes on. He's in top guy and he's very familiar.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Acting it was good.
Speaker 3: He was a good bit of relief in this and
Speaker 3: apparently one of the loveliest guys around that time he
Speaker 3: gets taken out.
Speaker 2: The woman who loves her walkman headphones doesn't.
Speaker 1: Take it off, not even during sex. How insulting?
Speaker 2: How what are you listening to? Billy Idol?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's I mean I think it is.
Speaker 3: There's a story plant there like this. She loves him,
Speaker 3: so she's not going to hear the terminator coming. I mean,
Speaker 3: I got to say headphones weren't a noise camp been
Speaker 3: thrown through a door, you're hearing a terminator come through
Speaker 3: and glass being smashed.
Speaker 2: Certainly hearing's a.
Speaker 1: Big fan of the mid night snack after coitus A
Speaker 1: lot of I've never done that. It's never been like,
Speaker 1: we're not time to go carbo load for a big
Speaker 1: night's rest. Like, what's the point she goes and makes
Speaker 1: a sandwich. It's literally just what do we do? We
Speaker 1: need to get her out of the bedroom, have it,
Speaker 1: go make a sandwich.
Speaker 3: And then Sarah kind of calls from the nightclub and
Speaker 3: basically gives the address and phone number.
Speaker 1: Yes, that's bad, right, what if you do don't give
Speaker 1: this to the serial killer? Now I'm at three three five. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you need to contact me here. I have a bung
Speaker 1: right knee, so please make sure no one chases me.
Speaker 1: Gives all the time, she does it twice. Well.
Speaker 3: One of the interesting facts I saw was the when
Speaker 3: they kind of reverse engineered something. When they knew the
Speaker 3: skeleton termot couldn't walk, you's got to creep. So basically
Speaker 3: they put a story pointing when Arnie your the terminators
Speaker 3: in the truck that explodes, it comes out with a limp.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was to kind of explain why the skeletal.
Speaker 1: If your worst injury after a petrol truck explodes with
Speaker 1: you in it is a limp. You're doing fine.
Speaker 2: You reckon if you can you know, survive these bullets.
Speaker 1: Yeah, a leg though. Yeah, but even that was that
Speaker 1: was an interesting chase sequence because they're walking and he's
Speaker 1: walking backwards and they're like within a meter of each other,
Speaker 1: and like there's no intensity and this right now like
Speaker 1: run run, you know he can't run. Run. It's funny.
Speaker 3: I feel like the first half of this film is
Speaker 3: like a lot of bloodshed, body cam high, it's like Rambo.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a cat and Mouse film.
Speaker 3: And then the second half feels my jaws in a
Speaker 3: way like it is a like a you know, it's
Speaker 3: the Predator, Predator movie. It's it's trying to run from this,
Speaker 3: you know, this force that you just can't see a
Speaker 3: way they're going to actually win the day.
Speaker 1: I feel like that's what threw me because, as I said,
Speaker 1: I've seen clips of T two and maybe even some
Speaker 1: of the more modern day Terminators, and I've seen the
Speaker 1: machines moving in that, and then I was just so
Speaker 1: caught off guard when I saw the stop motion for
Speaker 1: this one I was.
Speaker 6: It was it's laughably bad.
Speaker 1: Yeah, even when he loses his eye and they've just
Speaker 1: got like a shot of Arnie and then they go
Speaker 1: to a shot of his eye and it's an animatronic
Speaker 1: head with like Arnie's face put on it and it's
Speaker 1: so fake.
Speaker 6: Put him sunglasses on and then it's Arnie again. The
Speaker 6: sunglasses are badass, by the way.
Speaker 3: And they should have had him in the sunglasses the
Speaker 3: whole film earlier and in largely memory. In T two,
Speaker 3: he's got him on a lot. Right, I'm pretty sure
Speaker 3: maybe he writes he's a good guy from now on, right, Yeah,
Speaker 3: it was so Yeah. In T two he's there to protect.
Speaker 3: So it's funny when you see Sarah Conna see.
Speaker 6: I'm watching it today. I've got I went and bought
Speaker 6: it on Blu ray and go watch it today.
Speaker 2: T Too.
Speaker 3: Oh fantastic because when he arrives and Sarah seas if
Speaker 3: you can imagine, oh she freak out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so it's it's great.
Speaker 3: But the original idea was that there were two terminators
Speaker 3: that were going to come back, and there was one
Speaker 3: was protecting and one was which is basically T Too. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but they the budget to do two to terminate it,
Speaker 3: so they arrived at the plot for terminated with just
Speaker 3: a one terminator. But the animatronic, it's so I think
Speaker 3: I think that's why he loses his eyebrows.
Speaker 1: Right, So when does that happen?
Speaker 3: Well, the first time he basically goes through fire is
Speaker 3: that with the the You might be right.
Speaker 1: Because I only noticed it when he's driving in the
Speaker 1: cop car looking for them, and it's he just has
Speaker 1: the same left right head motion like when of those
Speaker 1: clowns at a fair with the mouth open and he's
Speaker 1: just doing this.
Speaker 6: I'm like, why is this?
Speaker 1: Where's his eyebrows? And you could tell that they've just
Speaker 1: covered them though they haven't shaved this. You can see
Speaker 1: them this makeup special effects covering them And I was like,
Speaker 1: why is he When did he lose that?
Speaker 3: But it must have been at the pipe bombs, you
Speaker 3: know quite a bit, and I reckon they've they've made
Speaker 3: it so he loses his eyebrows. I'm going to did
Speaker 3: the animatronic because hair would be harder.
Speaker 6: Good, very good point.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but they have way too many close ups of
Speaker 1: that animal tronic, Like we understand the eye, but it's
Speaker 1: so obviously not Arnie. So one shot of it, that's
Speaker 1: all you needed. But they keep coming back to it.
Speaker 1: I really, I really would have thought good on them
Speaker 1: for doing it though. That would have been amazing back then. Well,
Speaker 1: but there's a shot absolutely, I completely agree.
Speaker 3: There's a shot when he gets in the car where
Speaker 3: he's got more of his face and he's got part
Speaker 3: of the Scalton robot under his cheek visible, and it's
Speaker 3: it looks like Arnie, it looks like it's him, Like
Speaker 3: there's no animatronics, Yeah, yeah, yeah, so what how could
Speaker 3: they use it? That's then I didn't Noticetand and then
Speaker 3: when he's in the mirror, heck, like why go to
Speaker 3: the animatronics?
Speaker 2: Like mirror scene? Interesting?
Speaker 1: Was it that one where he just shows up in
Speaker 1: a random warehouse and there just happens to be surgical
Speaker 1: tools there that he uses to fix his arm and
Speaker 1: his eye and stuff. I've got to rewatch that bit,
Speaker 1: but it just feels like that's very convenient that there's
Speaker 1: a scalpel there and that like some mechanic shed.
Speaker 2: I can also that happened a lot in the eighties.
Speaker 2: Yeah films, Yeah, convenience.
Speaker 3: But the yeah, when he when he put his sungloss
Speaker 3: and also it's just his hair as well as.
Speaker 6: It's so vain even robots.
Speaker 1: Maybe he came.
Speaker 6: Back to swow Sarah as well. You never know, you
Speaker 6: want to look good for it.
Speaker 3: I didn't got to wonder why he does, believe, but
Speaker 3: they do kind of explain that they do take on
Speaker 3: they do almost farm skin and flesh.
Speaker 1: They say the machine is underneath living organism. That's why
Speaker 1: he could travel back.
Speaker 3: Yeah, which which which And it's a really good move
Speaker 3: because you kind of want to see a bit of
Speaker 3: blood in these movies.
Speaker 2: You want to see it too wounded.
Speaker 6: You really do.
Speaker 1: And like special effects and everything aside, I mean the budgets. Obviously,
Speaker 1: you're not going to give a young Jimmy Cameron one
Speaker 1: hundred million dollars, you got it.
Speaker 6: He's got to earn it.
Speaker 1: And it's it's very interesting the importance of this movie,
Speaker 1: because without this movie, what other movies don't we get,
Speaker 1: Like what James Cameron's career doesn't go to T two,
Speaker 1: doesn't go to Titanic or Avatar? You know, you know,
Speaker 1: And that's the other thing we're talking about. He said
Speaker 1: he sold the thing for a dollar. I read I
Speaker 1: saw an interview with I think it was ban athletic. No, sorry,
Speaker 1: Matt Damon was offered ten percent of Avatar to play
Speaker 1: the lead role and he turned it down. Oh, it's
Speaker 1: like one hundred million dollars, the highest grossing film of
Speaker 1: all time. He could have had ten percent of and
Speaker 1: he turned it down, And then Sam Worthington got it.
Speaker 6: You just sit there.
Speaker 1: I mean he doesn't need the money. It's fine, but.
Speaker 2: No, I know, still a lot of money.
Speaker 1: That's Yeah, and even George Lucas with keeping the rights
Speaker 1: to the merchandise for Star Wars. I'm really interested in
Speaker 1: these old business decisions that worked out for the better. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but the ones that didn't work out are also hilarious too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there was one recently that somebody missed out on
Speaker 3: a shit you hear it a lot.
Speaker 1: With bitcoin, there's so many people like, oh, I had
Speaker 1: this bitcoin back then, but I sold it and it's
Speaker 1: now worth a trillion dollars And.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was me.
Speaker 1: Let's have it.
Speaker 2: Let's go back.
Speaker 3: Let's there's a point obviously where he expled Wanes who
Speaker 3: John Connor is and his history or the future with
Speaker 3: John Connor.
Speaker 2: Let's have it all.
Speaker 8: Listen to that, but there was one man the title
Speaker 8: us to fight, to storm the wire of the camps
Speaker 8: and to smash those meddle the fuckers in a junk.
Speaker 5: He turned it around. He brought us back from the brink.
Speaker 5: His name is Connor, John Connor, your son, Sir John
Speaker 5: Boorn's son.
Speaker 6: He's so dramatic.
Speaker 1: Everything through his teeth.
Speaker 2: He really does.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of I mean he I think he
Speaker 3: does everything he's supposed to do.
Speaker 2: But it's very nonnaty for.
Speaker 6: Did that actor go on to too much?
Speaker 1: He actually was.
Speaker 3: He is really great in Tombstone. Yeah, okay, it's a
Speaker 3: great movie. Val Kilmer, that's right.
Speaker 6: Wow.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he's uh, he's actually quite good.
Speaker 4: He is.
Speaker 3: I'm this actually bringing up he's sing now. He's actually
Speaker 3: in the Mandalorian funnily enough, Oh my god, he is
Speaker 3: too You played lang.
Speaker 1: He is too well, he's still going. He's still going.
Speaker 1: Can we talk about how Val Kim we're in top secret?
Speaker 1: Just for ten seconds? Yeah, that was probably one of
Speaker 1: the most attractive men I've ever seen.
Speaker 2: This has come up before.
Speaker 1: He is unbelievable and in the comedic timing he was
Speaker 1: just like you could see like his agent at that time,
Speaker 1: was like, this guy is going to be a star, Yeah,
Speaker 1: because he is everything that we need.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and the fact that his first movie was Top Secret,
Speaker 3: the fact that he did a comedy.
Speaker 2: Okay, he can do comedy. Yeah, he looks like that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, we.
Speaker 3: Know he can do drama, you know, the top gun
Speaker 3: and he's just walking profit at that point.
Speaker 2: Have you seen Maverick?
Speaker 6: Yeah, other new one. No, I haven't, no, no, no good.
Speaker 1: It's pretty good.
Speaker 2: It's pretty bloody good.
Speaker 6: Cis just like, give the guy credit.
Speaker 1: Really, so many people rip on him, but like he
Speaker 1: is very talented at everything he does.
Speaker 2: I am pro cruise.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I had a chance of interviewing recently, and
Speaker 3: I've been on the record. I've written an article or
Speaker 3: an article for a filmic magazine many years ago, the
Speaker 3: saying exactly that he is the film star of our generation. Yeah.
Speaker 3: He's always really great. Yeah, talking about oscars should be
Speaker 3: a category for stunt. Yeah, because he does stuff like
Speaker 3: he's flying that jet fighter, he's hanging off the side
Speaker 3: of a building. You're like, no, I'm not coming out
Speaker 3: of my trailer until I need to be on set.
Speaker 1: You know. It's a difference in acting.
Speaker 3: He is just so committed and and good on him,
Speaker 3: completely committed. I thought it was a great use of
Speaker 3: like a great tool is the point of view from
Speaker 3: the terminator going to that red one of just from
Speaker 3: a from when you're in the edit room. They have
Speaker 3: the access to that where you can just kind of go,
Speaker 3: you know, and it's kind of it's a bit like
Speaker 3: it's a bit scary, you know, it's a bit kind of.
Speaker 6: Like a first person shooter.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, absolutely so I thought that.
Speaker 1: Was And like, you don't it doesn't explain what's happening,
Speaker 1: but there's just it's just he's just crunching numbers. There's
Speaker 1: just like just going across the screen and they're like,
Speaker 1: just go with it. It's just a computer crunching numbers.
Speaker 1: Don't don't overthink.
Speaker 3: And they use that a lot more in T two
Speaker 3: and I assume the movie is going forward.
Speaker 1: It shows you how cold and robotic he is as
Speaker 1: a character too, from his point of view.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 3: The in all these movies, of course you've got to
Speaker 3: kill the villain at least three times and any times,
Speaker 3: but did you you know what one thing I was
Speaker 3: because the first time is.
Speaker 2: They the big the big explosion. He's running.
Speaker 3: He's been run over by mac By now but he
Speaker 3: survived that. But the big explosion, he dies and he
Speaker 3: basically melts. The human flesh melts off him.
Speaker 2: And I mean, did you did you think it was over? Then?
Speaker 7: No?
Speaker 1: I didn't because because we hadn't seen the robotic version
Speaker 1: of the character. I knew that we were going to
Speaker 1: get that at one point, because as it's such an
Speaker 1: iconic I didn't think it was just showing up on
Speaker 1: the second. I knew that there was going to be
Speaker 1: you had to see the skeleton at some point, but
Speaker 1: I didn't think there was.
Speaker 6: Going to be a third.
Speaker 3: Well, one thing, one thing that I thought I would
Speaker 3: have liked to have seen. And who am I to
Speaker 3: tell James Cameron to how to make a movie, But.
Speaker 1: I would have behind him with, hey, do you not
Speaker 1: got a note?
Speaker 2: Do you mind that?
Speaker 3: Well, my friend Brennan cow just made Avatar the Sequels
Speaker 3: with mister Cameron, so maybe I'll get this note to
Speaker 3: him and tell me if I'm wrong. But I would
Speaker 3: have loved for Arnie's voice to be still part of
Speaker 3: that skeleton, yeah.
Speaker 1: Because he's he's still the voice, but the fleshes.
Speaker 3: Come off, but the voyce should still be there. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and I think that ad even if it was like
Speaker 3: kind of slight lot almost like you're slightly melted him
Speaker 3: something in posts scari, I think they would have added
Speaker 3: even and kept Arnie as part of.
Speaker 1: It, so synonymous that he is this character and it's
Speaker 1: not a robot, it's Arnie is Yeah, you're so right,
Speaker 1: Like I would have loved to have seen that too,
Speaker 1: And yeah, you'd think that the voice box isn't the
Speaker 1: flesh and tissue like causing that it's got it's it's
Speaker 1: all digital, it's all into digital, it's all there.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: If it's like if they just for fun they made
Speaker 1: it Gilbert Godfrey's voice or something instead, you know, instead
Speaker 1: of Arnie get back. Yeah, I don't do a Gilbert Godfrey.
Speaker 1: Oh imagine it was fat fast. I'm gonna eat your baby,
Speaker 1: Sarah Connor, Sarah Connor, where's your shit up? See?
Speaker 6: I got a turtle hand funking out?
Speaker 1: I love that. And yes, it was just it was
Speaker 1: just so interesting to see the third Like you go
Speaker 1: to a point, it's most movies these days too. Unless
Speaker 1: you see the character die, they're not dead, you know,
Speaker 1: an explosion or something. You have to see them die though,
Speaker 1: because it's so easy to bring characters back, and thank
Speaker 1: god they did, and I'm interested to see how they
Speaker 1: do it in T two, but no, the third one
Speaker 1: on my all right, we've had enough, let's just kill it.
Speaker 1: And the way it does they do kill him by
Speaker 1: just pressure crushing him is that's interesting and that's hard
Speaker 1: to come back from. And we know, you know that
Speaker 1: Sarah Connor does need to kill it. It can't be
Speaker 1: Kyle Reese can't kill the Terminatory. It needs to be
Speaker 1: Sarah Conon.
Speaker 6: She has to be the hero.
Speaker 3: And I think it's really nicely done. Like you know,
Speaker 3: it's literally got the robotic Hannock over a throat.
Speaker 1: And the eye slowly goes out. That's how you know
Speaker 1: he's dead. The red Eye slowly, slowly diffuses.
Speaker 2: Here's some about fun facts.
Speaker 3: The movie was delayed nine months because at the last
Speaker 3: minute the makers of Cone and the Barbarian had an
Speaker 3: option on Arnie to use him in a sequel, and
Speaker 3: they quickly I think I think they saw that Arnie
Speaker 3: was becoming a massive star and real he whipped together
Speaker 3: Cone and the Destroyer, so he gave James Cameron and
Speaker 3: the extra nine Muster twist script, and.
Speaker 1: He had all the time in the world to figure
Speaker 1: out that time travel loopholes was.
Speaker 3: I mean, him and George Lucas kind of exist in
Speaker 3: the same kind of world where they're absolute visionaries, geniuses,
Speaker 3: and so maybe dialogue is not the absolute thing. Not
Speaker 3: that that's fine, not that it doesn't really bother you
Speaker 3: that much in Star Wars at all.
Speaker 2: It's probably maybe the prequels.
Speaker 1: The prequels bothered people were the really Shakespearean type dialogue.
Speaker 2: But yeah, what are you going to do?
Speaker 3: But then he also wrote because he was still like,
Speaker 3: you know, he wasn't James Cameron yet, as we mentioned earlier,
Speaker 3: So he wrote I had no idea.
Speaker 2: He wrote Rambo.
Speaker 1: Too, did he really? Yeah? Yeah, huh.
Speaker 3: So he writes that, and then he also pictures an
Speaker 3: idea for the sequel for Aliens, so I forgot that
Speaker 3: he wasn't involved in the original Alien He took over
Speaker 3: and and the Aliens, so that was his.
Speaker 6: We utilized that nine months. Yeah, yeah, I get.
Speaker 2: The impression he works.
Speaker 1: Yea.
Speaker 3: And just just a quick shout out to nineteen eighty
Speaker 3: four as a movie year and for the you know,
Speaker 3: for a lot of the movies that I think, certainly
Speaker 3: people of my generation love has this for a bunch
Speaker 3: of movies released in the same year Jackson Toza, Beverly Hills, Cop, Ghostbusters,
Speaker 3: You're Joking, Indiana Jones and The Temple of Doom Way,
Speaker 3: Karate Kid, Gremlin's Police Academy, Romancing the Stone, much underrated film, Yeah,
Speaker 3: and Footloots, You're Joking all in the one in the
Speaker 3: one year and Whack Terminator on that year as well.
Speaker 1: What a year.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's crazy. And I was nine when Yeah,
Speaker 3: in eighty four.
Speaker 1: Some of those films define that whole generation.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, and I remember like going through the movies being
Speaker 3: so excited. I mean, these action comedies were were so
Speaker 3: bloody great. And I had the pleasure of chatting to
Speaker 3: Sandra bullickin Daniel Radcliffe for their movie The Lost City
Speaker 3: of z which was it's okay, It's okay, but it
Speaker 3: was certainly going for that, and we spoke about going
Speaker 3: for that. Those films like Romance in the Stone and
Speaker 3: where it was action comedies, you know, and with the
Speaker 3: action has done really well.
Speaker 1: Comedy is such an ultimate action comedy though.
Speaker 2: It's one of the best.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it was one of the ones I mentioned
Speaker 3: my favorite. The third was it really yeah, So when
Speaker 3: I watched first, that's why it's so funny, because in
Speaker 3: my mind it's like they get worse.
Speaker 1: But it's the nostalgia, it's exactly. It's the grease thing, right.
Speaker 1: I watched it as a kid, so I love it
Speaker 1: as an adult. It's our Star Wars. We judge fandom menace.
Speaker 3: Someone of my age will judge fandom menace differently what
Speaker 3: you might judge it.
Speaker 1: I watched the three original trilogy on VHS, and Return
Speaker 1: of the Jedo is my favorite. Because I was quite young,
Speaker 1: I didn't understand all the other themes that were happening.
Speaker 1: I love the Green Lights ever. I think that's what
Speaker 1: made me. But I was at a I was at
Speaker 1: a teenage what would have been two thousand ish somewhere
Speaker 1: when it came out, So I was I was old
Speaker 1: enough to then appreciate the prequels a lot more, and
Speaker 1: I loved them growing up, and I don't understand the
Speaker 1: backlash they get now, but it's the same as how
Speaker 1: we would probably shot on this on the sequel trilogy. Now,
Speaker 1: I'm sure this generation now love those because they're personal
Speaker 1: to them.
Speaker 3: I mean personally, I love I love this well, I
Speaker 3: love the Force Awakens. I I thought the last Jedi.
Speaker 3: I was surprised there wasn't enough maybe discussion between JJ
Speaker 3: Abrams and Ryan Johnson, and then I admired that I
Speaker 3: really liked the writer Skywalker actually, and I love all
Speaker 3: the spinoffs. I just love being in the Star Wars world.
Speaker 1: It's the thing, like the people the people who hate
Speaker 1: Star Wars the most are Star Wars fans, and it's ridiculous.
Speaker 6: But what is better than no.
Speaker 1: Star Wars getting Star Wars Jays Book of Bobafitt doesn't
Speaker 1: leave up to Mandalorian. It's still we're getting more content
Speaker 1: in this world. Isn't that better than nothing? I completely
Speaker 1: Disney have ruined. It's like, no, we've got there's gonna
Speaker 1: be nothing there. We now have an infinite amount of
Speaker 1: content that's going to still come.
Speaker 3: Exactly when when they announce this they can lay out
Speaker 3: of the plan for the films. I was like, oh
Speaker 3: my god, we're gonna get like a Star Wars film
Speaker 3: every year for the rest of my life.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it hasn't quite worked out.
Speaker 1: Like that, but but but if you add the TV
Speaker 1: series Force Awaken comes out and everyone goes, it's too
Speaker 1: similar to the new Hope, do something original, and then
Speaker 1: last Jedo goes, all right, we'll do something originally. Go
Speaker 1: that's too original. It doesn't make any sense. Find a
Speaker 1: perfect balance.
Speaker 6: They're just they're not going to be happy. You can't
Speaker 6: satisfy everyone.
Speaker 3: Hey, mate, would you come back next season and discuss
Speaker 3: Terminator to judgment data?
Speaker 1: There is nothing I would rather do. Well, we will
Speaker 1: start making notes this afternoon.
Speaker 3: We will do that, and I look for like, if
Speaker 3: you enjoy Terminator, it's impossible that you want to enjoy
Speaker 3: Terminator to I can't wait.
Speaker 6: I really can't wait.
Speaker 3: Mate, Thank you so much. You have a short film
Speaker 3: called Hatchback. Yeah, that's wow. Them at the same killed
Speaker 3: at Short Film Festival, did.
Speaker 1: Very well, very very overwhelmed with the response with the
Speaker 1: film has gotten with the great mate Steve Curry.
Speaker 2: Was he a kay on set? Was he in the mood?
Speaker 1: He was a bit of a diver at first, but
Speaker 1: we broke him down. No, he's you know him, He's
Speaker 1: an appolute He just makes everybody feel like you're you've
Speaker 1: been best mates for thirty years and it's just I
Speaker 1: thought you are I was best mate.
Speaker 6: No, No, he made me feel like I was.
Speaker 1: He's very good, but he was just playing time. It's
Speaker 1: just a silly's fun it's and it's a great it's
Speaker 1: a great fun time.
Speaker 3: That short film excellent mate. Well you you've been a delightful.
Speaker 3: We worked on something called Welfare where I met you, mate.
Speaker 3: Steve Bestoni was putting together and you were very funny.
Speaker 3: You're one of those people who were on that set.
Speaker 3: I thought a bit like when I saw Lit McGregor
Speaker 3: on Channel thirty one. I thought that guy is fucking funny,
Speaker 3: and I had a very similar kind of reaction to
Speaker 3: you on that And appreciate I have enjoyed watching your
Speaker 3: career take off and the constant roles that are challenging you.
Speaker 2: And you're great to watch, mate.
Speaker 6: I appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Great to hang out with.
Speaker 3: That is Pete right, Yeah, yeah, thank project and host
Speaker 3: of this podcast and some other stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I cast you and how to Say Married.
Speaker 1: You're on the Cold Show on the coll Remember that
Speaker 1: number one. It doesn't matter, it's just a number.
Speaker 2: Next calls, it's the first one.
Speaker 3: Listen that was number one. Anyway, it doesn't matter that
Speaker 3: numbers nobody even knows what they mean. Mate, Thank you
Speaker 3: so much. This podcast comes with homework and we'll see
Speaker 3: you next season to look at Judgment Day Terminator.
Speaker 2: To appreciate it.
Speaker 6: Thanks having me on.
Speaker 3: That was Jackson Tozer and the Terminator. Great fun. Jackson
Speaker 3: is delightful to hang out with. Really enjoyed catching up
Speaker 3: with him and talking about Arnie and what a landmark
Speaker 3: film Arnie, Linda Hamilton, James Cameron.
Speaker 2: And this bawned.
Speaker 3: You know so many films, obviously T two, Judgment Day
Speaker 3: and the later films they made.
Speaker 1: Not everybody's cup of tea, but some people love them.
Speaker 3: Also, TV series, books, comics, unbelievable. Derek Meyers, Cassaway Studios,
Speaker 3: the man who helps you put this together.
Speaker 2: You would have seen Terminator.
Speaker 1: Derek absolutely all over it. Do you love it? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I must.
Speaker 3: I think I mentioned it in the podcast. I did
Speaker 3: see T two before I saw Terminator. Did you see
Speaker 3: the term in the right order?
Speaker 1: Absolutely? Yeah.
Speaker 3: This was my my HC so still a schoolboy, but
Speaker 3: still free to go to the movies whenever with the crew.
Speaker 2: You were target audience absolutely right.
Speaker 3: In Narnie's Gun you were Hey, we're loving some of
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Speaker 1: All right, here we go, Hi, great podcast.
Speaker 4: Would love to hear about Twister. Maybe Kitty Flannigan or
Speaker 4: mel Buttle just to thought, keep up good work.
Speaker 2: Bye, Thank you Kirston.
Speaker 3: Yes, we've had Kitty Flanninghan came on and spoke about
Speaker 3: the matrix and that was a lot of fun. We
Speaker 3: both try to navigate the matrix together. I'd love to
Speaker 3: have her on again. There's no reason why we won't
Speaker 3: be having return guests down the track. So we all
Speaker 3: love Kitty Haggle was Fist by the way, absolutely brilliant.
Speaker 3: And mel Buttle. We have not had Melbutle on before,
Speaker 3: so we'll get onto that and Twist. I think Twister
Speaker 3: comes under kind of classic, kind of beloved, somewhere in between.
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm not sure. Man, Then I just mix it
Speaker 1: up with Sharknado. I think they're a bit different.
Speaker 3: But I think Twister does it does deserve its place
Speaker 3: because it I'm not sure how big desire the movies
Speaker 3: were pre Twister. You know it's Halen Harnt. Of course
Speaker 3: Bill Paxton. Again, I love a Bill Paxton film. So yeah,
Speaker 3: maybe we'll put Twist on the list. I'll add it
Speaker 3: to the list and see if there's any bites for you. Kisston,
Speaker 3: thanks for the speak pipe and now we also have
Speaker 3: one wet with doubling up today Dale Robins once at
Speaker 3: Saturday PD PDPD.
Speaker 9: Yeah, listen, I'll watch some movie there the other night.
Speaker 9: It's called The Lovely Bones pole ease, if you could
Speaker 9: get get onto that. That was a it was a
Speaker 9: really good movie. It's not it wasn't my genre at all,
Speaker 9: but it hit me pretty hard. I thought it was
Speaker 9: a really good movie, really good one. I love to
Speaker 9: love to hear review on it. Let me know how
Speaker 9: you go, jeez.
Speaker 3: The Lovely Bones, Yes, directed by Peter Jackson and yeah,
Speaker 3: Mart Wohlberg, Rachel Wise, Susan Sarandon, Stanley Tucci. Yeah, it's
Speaker 3: it's I have seen that. It's a really good film.
Speaker 3: I when he said Lovely Lovely Bones my mind for
Speaker 3: some reason seeing Heavenly Creatures with Kate Winslett, another Peter
Speaker 3: Jackson film. I think we'll put it on the list
Speaker 3: as well. Twister and Lovely Bones going on.
Speaker 1: That's a good suggestion.
Speaker 2: I like that.
Speaker 1: Have you seen Lovely Bones Strey? No, I've never even
Speaker 1: heard of it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it didn't necessarily set the world on fire. I
Speaker 3: had no idea what if it was considered a hit
Speaker 3: or not. I mean it's a darkness, a certain darkness
Speaker 3: to it. It does involve a murder I think from
Speaker 3: memory of a girl. Yeah, and it's got like kind
Speaker 3: of a sense of spirituality to it. I think as well.
Speaker 3: All right, I'll put Lovely Bones and Twist, two very
Speaker 3: different movies on our list and see if somebody wants
Speaker 3: to jump in there. But thank you, Dale, I should say, Dale, Dale, Dale,
Speaker 3: for your message. You really appreciate it. And keep listening
Speaker 3: and maybe you'll hear Lovely Bones on our podcast very soon.
Speaker 3: We've got a few more episodes to go for season four.
Speaker 3: I you ain't seen nothing yet. We are closing in
Speaker 3: on the one hundred episode mark that will happen next season.
Speaker 3: But we've got about four episodes ago, I think for
Speaker 3: this season and next week on the show, a returning guest,
Speaker 3: the One, the Only, a great mate. You know him
Speaker 3: from rose Haven, lukewarm Sex. Have you been paying attention
Speaker 3: the project? He's the one, the Only. Luke mcgreg returns
Speaker 3: to complete the trilogy that is The Godfather Part three.
Speaker 3: Now he slightly Some people might think this is contentious.
Speaker 1: Is The Godfather Part three a classic?
Speaker 3: It's certainly part of a classic trilogy, and I absolutely
Speaker 3: think this is a great time for all of you
Speaker 3: who have maybe written off The Godfather Part three to
Speaker 3: revisit it.
Speaker 2: It is I've said this before, it is a very
Speaker 2: good film.
Speaker 3: It's not in the conversation as the best film ever made,
Speaker 3: like its predecessor's Godfather Part one and Part two, but
Speaker 3: it is still a very good film. And I think
Speaker 3: the changes fantasy for a couple are made about a
Speaker 3: year ago. So if you want to go, if you're
Speaker 3: watching it, will be reviewing The Godfather Part three. The
Speaker 3: death of Michael collon the coder. Okay, so that's the
Speaker 3: one we'll be watching, So check that out. Revisit it
Speaker 3: if you haven't. If you haven't seen it before, and
Speaker 3: you've been put off by watching it.
Speaker 2: Check it out. It's gonna be a lot of fun
Speaker 2: next week.
Speaker 3: And you ain't seen nothing yet Luc McGregor and The
Speaker 3: Godfather Part three. And so we leave old Pete save Lancel,
Speaker 3: and to our friends of the radio audience, we've been
Speaker 3: a pleasant good name.