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Speaker 1: This is Outspoken the podcast. It's not afraid to say

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Speaker 1: exactly what you're thinking. Our names are Amy Kate and

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Speaker 1: Sophie Torba. We're identical triplets, but we often don't have

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Speaker 1: identical opinions, so sometimes things can get heated. Outspoken covers

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Speaker 1: all things reality TV, influences, entertainment, and issues facing women.

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Speaker 1: That is so fat thank you. I am literally at

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Speaker 1: the end of mine, Heather, at the moment. For the

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Speaker 1: whole week, I have had construction work going on outside

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Speaker 1: is it. No, Because I've just been alerted by my

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Speaker 1: landlord that they are building a childcare center next to

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Speaker 1: my house. And I don't know what is worse, whether

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Speaker 1: the tearing down of the old house is worse, or

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Speaker 1: whether about two hundred children packed into a small childcare

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Speaker 1: center and they're chattering is worse. It's so funny because

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Speaker 1: Sophie has been winging about this all week to me,

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Speaker 1: and I pulled up yesterday thinking, oh, maybe it's just

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Speaker 1: these workmen. They'd rip down her fence. Well, the worst

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Speaker 1: don't know. They're going to put some temporary fence in.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how that's supposed to keep a dog inside.

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Speaker 1: Maybe I need to get our dad onto this. Well,

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Speaker 1: we're really running out of places to record this podcast

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Speaker 1: because Amy, you've got a barking dog next door that

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Speaker 1: you can hear any construction work. We are now trying

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Speaker 1: to find a new place to record the podcast and

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Speaker 1: potentially a new place to live. Yeah, if anyone's got

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Speaker 1: any rentals or houses Sophie's you know, looking for on

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Speaker 2: But I should actually be here or something or nothing,

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Speaker 2: whole thing up and what I thot you've known nothing

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Speaker 1: On Thursday, Kate Middleton celebrated her tenth wedding anniversary with

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Speaker 1: Prince William. The relationship has been touted to be the

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Speaker 1: Royal family's saving grace. But what do we really know

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Speaker 1: about the apparent fairytale romance and the future queen to

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Speaker 1: be From cheating scandals to a forty million dollar party

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Speaker 1: planning business. We're ready to dissect it all, So can

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Speaker 1: you kick us off by telling us about Kate's early life. Well,

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Speaker 1: it's really hard to believe that Kate Middleton has been

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Speaker 1: on the scene for almost twenty years now. She was

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Speaker 1: born on January ninth, nineteen eighty two in Berkshire, England,

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Speaker 1: and a bit of a fun fact, her real name

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Speaker 1: it seems she was destined to be part of the

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Speaker 1: thing I can't believe is the fact that Kate celebrated

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Speaker 1: But that thing said, even though they are referred to

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Speaker 1: So obviously there are click key reasons she would want

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Speaker 1: What I find really interesting is the way we talk

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Speaker 1: And the thing that everyone's forgetting is that Kate actually

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Speaker 1: that moved in. Now, if we are using a journalistic

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Speaker 1: was nearing thirty and still had no ring on her finger,

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Speaker 1: and she really hated the cruel nicknames that the media

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Speaker 1: had come up with her. Can you imagine what life

432
00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:21,760
Speaker 1: would have been like for Kate because even at thirty two,

433
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Speaker 1: the amount of times we all get asked, when are

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Speaker 1: you getting married? When are you having children? And this

435
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Speaker 1: is in the newspaper. This would have been strangers asking

436
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Speaker 1: Kate these questions. I want about talk about pressure for thanks, William,

437
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Speaker 1: you feel like if you were Kate kind of like,

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Speaker 1: can everyone just keep it down there? I mean there's

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Speaker 1: it's so clear that there were so many pressures on

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Speaker 1: William and there were so many reasons why he really

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Speaker 1: wanted to wait to get it right. I think William

442
00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:48,080
Speaker 1: was well within his right to want to wait that

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Speaker 1: long to make sure that they were both ready for marriage.

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Speaker 1: Not only were there extreme pressures on him, but also Kate.

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Speaker 1: He wanted to make sure that Kate was comfortable with

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Speaker 1: this new life she was going to be leading, because

447
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Speaker 1: really she had to say goodbye to her whole past

448
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Speaker 1: life and become future queen. Yeah. Well, Prince William actually

449
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Speaker 1: spoke about it in their engagement interview, and he said,

450
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Speaker 1: I really wanted to make sure that they and he's

451
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Speaker 1: talking about Kate and her family have the best guidance

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Speaker 1: and chance to see what life is like in the family.

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Speaker 1: And that's kind of why I have been waiting this long.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to give her a chance to see and

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Speaker 1: back out if she needed to before it all got

456
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Speaker 1: too much, because I'm trying to learn from lessons done

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Speaker 1: in the past, and I just wanted to give her

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Speaker 1: the best chance to settle in and see what happens

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Speaker 1: on the other side. And I think that was quite

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Speaker 1: poignant because it seems like the lessons Prince Charles learned

461
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Speaker 1: around Camilla and Diana were very much ringing in Prince

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Speaker 1: William's years. At the time, there was also a rumor

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Speaker 1: that the Queen had voice concerns that William shouldn't announce

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Speaker 1: an engagement to Kate until she had secured herself a

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Speaker 1: full time job. Now. So for you mentioned a bit

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Speaker 1: earlier that Kate's first job straight out of university was

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Speaker 1: working in London as an accessory buyer for Jigsaw, and

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Speaker 1: Kate's old boss recent came out and told the media

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Speaker 1: what a hard worker Kate was. And it's quite interesting

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Speaker 1: she's come out and said this because, as I said,

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Speaker 1: the Queen was really concerned about the image Kate was

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Speaker 1: putting across. Because Kate had asked her boss when she

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Speaker 1: was at Jigsaw if she could only work three days

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Speaker 1: a week because she said she needed to have some

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Speaker 1: flexibility so she could go and visit Prince William. Well,

476
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Speaker 1: this is where the press began to form a new

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Speaker 1: title for Kate. They moved away from waity Katie and

478
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Speaker 1: started to call her Lazy Katie and also they have

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Speaker 1: subsequently called her the Duchess of Doolittle and that, as

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Speaker 1: you said, is because she quit her job. Will went

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Speaker 1: part time in order to prepare herself for future life.

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Speaker 1: So I mean, I think a little bit naive in

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Speaker 1: thinking that Kate could just walk into any normal office

484
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Speaker 1: job and just she was getting pounded by the paparazzi

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Speaker 1: at the stay. Yeah, well that's what her boss said,

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Speaker 1: that every day there were paparazzi waiting outside the office.

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Speaker 1: But she did say that Kate's job wasn't as glamorous

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Speaker 1: as it may have appeared. She said that Kate was

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Speaker 1: often getting other workers' coffees and she'd often be sent

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Speaker 1: out to do some of the shit tasks around the office.

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Speaker 1: I love that she was a little bit of a

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Speaker 1: shit kicker at Jigsaw. Well, their boss also said that

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Speaker 1: she wasn't big headed at all, despite the fact that

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Speaker 1: the media were camped outside. She said she'd sit down

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Speaker 1: with any of her colleagues and have a chat in

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Speaker 1: the lunch room. But so if you mentioned how the

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Speaker 1: media had labeled her as lazy and people were questioning

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Speaker 1: her worth ethic and this was down to the fact

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Speaker 1: that she decided to leave Jigsaw and she went to

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Speaker 1: work at her parents' party planning business, but she didn't

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Speaker 1: want to publicize that fact because she was concerned that

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Speaker 1: the paparazzi would hound her there, So the Queen didn't

503
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Speaker 1: realize that she was actually working for her parents' store.

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00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:44,040
Speaker 1: I feel like the communication is absolutely terrible in this family.

505
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Speaker 1: Surely William could have said, oh, hey, Grandma, Kate's actually

506
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Speaker 1: working at her family's business. Well, apparently, when Kate's mum

507
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Speaker 1: caught win that maybe the Queen thought Kate was lazy,

508
00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:56,200
Speaker 1: she quickly updated Party Pieces website to include a photo

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Speaker 1: of Kate and listed her as an Employee's funny though,

510
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Speaker 1: because it probably is a bit of a stigma for

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Speaker 1: people that do work at their family business that they

512
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Speaker 1: don't do much. But it seems like she really was.

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Speaker 1: She even discussed how hard she was working in the

514
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Speaker 1: engagement interview, and I really do get the vibe that

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Speaker 1: she is very much a hard worker and an intelligent woman. Yeah. Well,

516
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,199
Speaker 1: she was photographing their whole catalog, which is really interesting

517
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Speaker 1: because she's now become the royal family's sort of official

518
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Speaker 1: royal photographer. If you have a look at all the

519
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Speaker 1: recent photos of her children, she's listed as the photographer.

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Speaker 1: Did she not take a really amazing picture of Prince

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Speaker 1: Philip as well? Yeah, she did. She took a photo

522
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Speaker 1: of the Queen and Prince Philip and it was released

523
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Speaker 1: after Prince Philip's death. Well, moving on to their engagement,

524
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Speaker 1: So Prince William proposed to Kate Middleton on October twentieth,

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Speaker 1: twenty ten. So he did so when the pair were

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Speaker 1: on a holiday in Kenya with friends. However, it wasn't

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Speaker 1: announced until November sixteen. Now I found it really cute

528
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:59,080
Speaker 1: because in their engagement interview, Prince William kept making comments

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Speaker 1: about how he was it's so romantic. However, he didn't

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Speaker 1: actually go into detail of how he proposed. Kate said

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00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 1: she was actually very surprised because they were with friends

532
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,359
Speaker 1: on the trip and she didn't see it coming. However,

533
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 1: it was quite clear it was an issue they'd spoken

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Speaker 1: a lot about before. Prince William said he spent most

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Speaker 1: of the trip trying to make sure that the ring

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Speaker 1: was hidden and safe. I mean, I can see why,

537
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 1: because the ring was worth six hundred and eighty thousand

538
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Speaker 1: dollars and it actually belonged to his mother, Princess Diana.

539
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Speaker 1: Now it was Princess Diana's very famous blue sapphire engagement ring,

540
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Speaker 1: and I, as a child, grew up loving this ring.

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Speaker 1: It's absolutely stunning. Do you remember at the time of

542
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 1: Prince William and Kate's engagement they started selling knockoffs of

543
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:44,640
Speaker 1: the ring at Diva? Yes, I do. I actually think

544
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Speaker 1: one of us born. Yeah, I reckon, I bought it. Well,

545
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 1: what I found most interesting about this ring is that

546
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Speaker 1: Princess Diana's butler, Paul Burrell, actually revealed recently in a

547
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Speaker 1: documentary that Harry actually owned the ring. So after his

548
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Speaker 1: mother passed away, Harry was allowed to pick out his

549
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:04,200
Speaker 1: favorite piece of Diana's jewelry, and he picked his mum's

550
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:07,919
Speaker 1: engagement ring. So instead of holding off and waiting for

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Speaker 1: his own wife to propose to with the ring, Harry

552
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 1: was that close with Kate and William that he said

553
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Speaker 1: to William, I want you to give this to Kate.

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Speaker 1: I think it would be a really nice idea that

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00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:21,880
Speaker 1: she wore mum's ring. I found this so cute. Well,

556
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 1: it's really clear that Kate's entrance into the royal family

557
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:27,879
Speaker 1: was framed in such a way to connect her with

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Speaker 1: Princess Diana. I didn't know this before, but the photographer

559
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Speaker 1: who took William and Kate's engagement photos he also shot

560
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 1: the iconic final portrait of Princess Diana. Oh wow. So

561
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Speaker 1: I feel like it's very clear from the get go,

562
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Speaker 1: because Princess Diana had so much love from the public,

563
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:46,160
Speaker 1: they wanted to frame Kate in a very similar way,

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Speaker 1: despite the fact that obviously there was some sort of

565
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:52,480
Speaker 1: an uneasiness with Princess Diana's legacy. I think it's important

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Speaker 1: to point out that Megan Mirkale did not miss out

567
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Speaker 1: on a piece of jewelry from Princess Diana's collection, because

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Speaker 1: I know a few people would be like, oh my gosh,

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Speaker 1: why didn't have keep it for her? So Harry actually

570
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:06,280
Speaker 1: had her engagement ring custom made. He was involved in

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Speaker 1: the designing process, and it actually includes two diamonds from

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Speaker 1: Princess Diana's collection. So it's really nice that both Harry

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Speaker 1: and William's wives do wear a little bit of Princess

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Speaker 1: Diana's jewelry. I feel like we have to finally get

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Speaker 1: into the wedding because this was a hugely anticipated ceremony.

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Speaker 1: The couple got married at Westminster Abbey on April twenty ninth,

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Speaker 1: twenty eleven. I cannot believe it was ten years ago.

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Speaker 1: I remember watching this and I sadly remember driving to

579
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:36,480
Speaker 1: McDonald's after it. It wasn't such a fairy tale event for myself.

580
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 1: I just remember really being excited to see Kate's dress

581
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Speaker 1: and thinking that she truly looked like such a classy

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Speaker 1: and sophisticated princess. It was just stunning. Amy, you actually

583
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 1: dressed up as Kate Middleton the bride Halloween. That was Halloween.

584
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 1: But just on the dress Kate, did you know her

585
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 1: parents actually bought that really? Yeah? And it cost four

586
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Speaker 1: hundred thousand. Wow. Well, I mean, well that's not huge

587
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 1: in comparison to the whole event. Yeah, but when you're

588
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:08,200
Speaker 1: when they're labeled as commoners, it's quite hilarious that they

589
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 1: actually paid four hundred thousand for a gown. Amy, I

590
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 1: think you have to share a picture in our community

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00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 1: of you dressed as Kate Middleton, because you were wearing

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Speaker 1: our mum's dress, which was kind of a little bit

593
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:21,480
Speaker 1: Kate Middleton esque, had the long lace sleeves. I really

594
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 1: think it was a very iconic moment and I feel

595
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 1: like ten years on, the dress really hasn't dated badly,

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00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 1: it still looks really good. Well. The gown was actually

597
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 1: designed by Sarah Burton for Alexander McQueen. As you said, Amy,

598
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 1: it costs four over four hundred thousand dollars. She also

599
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 1: wore the Cartier Halo Tiara, which was lent to her

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00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 1: by the Queen. And I found this really fascinating because

601
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Speaker 1: the queen will pick out what piece of jewelry the

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Speaker 1: bride gets to that. I was listening to a podcast

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00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 1: called Even the Rich and they were talking about how

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00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 1: Megan Markel had selected a piece of jewelry that belonged

605
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 1: to the queen. However, the Queen put her foot down

606
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 1: and said she is not wearing that. Wow. Prince Harry

607
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 1: went back and said, no, Megan will get what Meghan wants. Wow.

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00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 1: The Queen made the ultimate Powell move and refused to

609
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Speaker 1: allow her to wear and said I'm in charge. She'll

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00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 1: be wearing this, I suppose. Sadly, the thing other than

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Speaker 1: the dress that I most recall from the wedding is

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Speaker 1: Kate's sister, Pipper Middleton, stealing the show with her amazing ass,

613
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 1: her royal hotness. She was described as yeah, I feel

614
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 1: like that photo of her ass just went viral and

615
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 1: everyone like imagine being like, oh, your sister's got a

616
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 1: hot ass, Like we weren't actually looking at you. To

617
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:34,320
Speaker 1: be honest, I didn't really notice her ass at all.

618
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 1: I think it must have been the men sitting at

619
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 1: home who were forced to watch the royal wedding that

620
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 1: just sort of were like, well, she's all right, Well

621
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 1: that's the thing. I personally didn't notice Pipper Middleton's ass,

622
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 1: but it was just played up to be such a

623
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 1: big thing. But one thing I didn't really remember that

624
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 1: I found out when I was doing a bit of

625
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 1: research is that William and Kate actually chose to drive

626
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 1: their own wedding car back to the Powace I supposed,

627
00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 1: and they picked out this amazing blue Aston Martin and

628
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 1: there is this absolute iconic photo of them driving along.

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Speaker 1: They just look so happy. Kate looks like she's like cheering.

630
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 1: It's a beautiful shot. While the photo captured Prince William

631
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 1: and Kate riding off into the sunset for their happily

632
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 1: ever after. When you're a part of the royal family,

633
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 1: that's just not it. We actually end up hearing a

634
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 1: lot about you in the press, and sadly one thing

635
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 1: that has been documented in the press over their ten

636
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 1: year marriage is a cheating rumor. So in twenty nineteen,

637
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 1: it was alleged that Prince William had an affair with

638
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 1: Kate Middleton's close friend Rose Hanbury, who is very much

639
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 1: in the inner circle of the royal family. Now, according

640
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 1: to these rumors, Prince William allegedly had an affair with

641
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 1: Rose when Kate Middleton was pregnant with their third child,

642
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 1: Prince Louis, in twenty and eighteen. So let's first go

643
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 1: into what we know about Rose. So, before she became

644
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 1: part of Kate Middleton's circle of friends, she worked as

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Speaker 1: a model and was signed to a model agency that

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Speaker 1: discovered Kate Moss. She also briefly worked in Parliament. Now,

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Speaker 1: she married her husband back in two thousand and nine

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Speaker 1: when she was pregnant with their first child, and at

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Speaker 1: the time of their marriage, her husband was this very

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Speaker 1: famous aristocrat who was considered to be one of the

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Speaker 1: most eligible bachelors in the country, and Kate and will

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Speaker 1: quickly became friends with the couple because they actually only

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Speaker 1: live a couple of minutes down the road and they

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Speaker 1: are very connected. So Rose's grandmother actually was a bridesmaid

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Speaker 1: in the Queen's wedding. That's how connected they are. It

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Speaker 1: seems like there are very much Camilla Parker Bowles vibes

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Speaker 1: happening here one hundred percent. And this is why I

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Speaker 1: think the UK press really loved this story. But what's

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Speaker 1: really interesting is that Kate and Rose were pitted against

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Speaker 1: each other before these cheating rumors even came out. So

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Speaker 1: in two thousand and sixteen, the media played them off

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Speaker 1: against each other, implying that they were frenemies and that

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Speaker 1: Kate was very jealous of Rose's lavish lifestyle and that

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Speaker 1: she was very envious of her. They don't get the

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Speaker 1: media because if anything, wouldn't this friend Rose be jealous

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Speaker 1: of Kate Middleton. They're both living really lavish lifestyles, but

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Speaker 1: Kate is the one getting all the attention now, Kate.

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Speaker 1: Going back to these rumors of cheating, while many people

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Speaker 1: in the public were willing to believe that Prince William

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Speaker 1: was following in his father's footsteps, majority of people actually

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Speaker 1: weren't quite sure what to believe because it really wasn't

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Speaker 1: reported as heavily in the media as one of these

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Speaker 1: incidentss usually would, and that has a lot to do

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Speaker 1: with the fact that the Royal Family control a lot

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Speaker 1: of what the media reports, and they did not want

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Speaker 1: the scenario revolving around Prince Charles repeating itself because they

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Speaker 1: want Prince William and Kate to remain very likable. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: exactly right. It would be a very big blow to

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Speaker 1: the Royal Family of Kate and will weren't still together.

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Speaker 1: I think also, I remember hearing this rumor in twenty nineteen,

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Speaker 1: but there are so much bullshit written about the Royal

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Speaker 1: Family and Women's Weekly and New Idea that you know,

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Speaker 1: you see every time it's like Meghan Michaels having triplets,

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Speaker 1: You're just like, so I kind of just assumed that

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Speaker 1: this was some bullshit as well. Well. Meghan Michael came

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Speaker 1: out in that famous Oprah interview and said that she

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Speaker 1: believed the Royal Family were putting out stories about her

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Speaker 1: to take the heat off all of these rumors that

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Speaker 1: were circulating around Kate and Williams. I definitely think that

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Speaker 1: there is a lot of validity in what I said.

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Speaker 1: Can I just say though, in saying that I actually

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Speaker 1: don't believe these rumors for a second. For starters, there

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Speaker 1: was a distinct lack of evidence about the affair, and

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Speaker 1: no one was no one connected to the royal family

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Speaker 1: publicly commented on this affair at all. Why we say,

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Speaker 1: because generally a lot of the people in the inner

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Speaker 1: circle repeat information to the press. That's how they make

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Speaker 1: it funny. But to people who repeat the information and

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Speaker 1: all the workers that you know, the butlers and the people,

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Speaker 1: they know what's going on behind the scenes. Fortunately for

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Speaker 1: Kate and Will, Paul Burrell wasn't working at the family

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Speaker 1: that well. From my understanding, the media knew about Prince

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Speaker 1: Charles and Camilla. I feel like a lot of people did. However,

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Speaker 1: that story remained protected and not put out to the

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Speaker 1: general public for a long time. It was only really

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Speaker 1: when Martin Bashier's interview with Diana went live that all

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Speaker 1: the media attention turned to Prince Charles and Camilla and

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Speaker 1: the affair. Yeah, so I feel like this potentially could

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Speaker 1: be truth to this way, can I decide? I completely disagree.

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Speaker 1: I think there is a distinct lack of evidence about

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Speaker 1: this affair. That they seem to just genuinely be good friends,

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Speaker 1: their kids played with each other. I think what the

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Speaker 1: media more is trying to do here is build Prince

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Speaker 1: William up to be exactly like his father. This affair

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Speaker 1: with Camilla would have sold mass papers. The paparazzi if

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Speaker 1: they had their opportunity to get a photo and print this,

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Speaker 1: they would have done so. But what you're forgetting is

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Speaker 1: the hold that the firm has over the media, and

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Speaker 1: that's really been highlighted in lots of press coverage since

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Speaker 1: Meghan Markel and Harry's explosive interview. The Royal family have

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Speaker 1: connections with different media and they're not Some of the

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Speaker 1: media are such great friends with the Royal family. They're

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Speaker 1: not going to be putting out these stories because I

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Speaker 1: don't want to piss them off, especially when they're feeding

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Speaker 1: them gold about Megan Markele, who everyone obviously does not

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Speaker 1: like well. These rumors became vicious enough that Prince William's

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Speaker 1: lawyers threatened legal action against the media outlets spreading these rumors,

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Speaker 1: and Duncan Larcom, who previously worked as a royal editor

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Speaker 1: of the Sun, told newspapers that taking legal action is

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Speaker 1: very much a move, a last resort move, and it's

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Speaker 1: really breaking from tradition of what the royal family would

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Speaker 1: usually do. But in saying that He said that William

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Speaker 1: and Harry are very willing to do things on their

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Speaker 1: own terms and take these sort of actions. We're talking

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Speaker 1: about doing things on their own terms. On Thursday, Kate

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Speaker 1: and William shared a very rare behind the seams glimpse

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Speaker 1: into their private lives now. They released a forty second

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Speaker 1: video on Twitter to commemorate their tenth wedding anniversary. And

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Speaker 1: this was very unusual for the Royal family and it

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00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 1: was shot by British filmmaker Will Wore and shows the

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Speaker 1: family of five playing beach and roasting marshmallows. It felt

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Speaker 1: like it was literally an ad for the Royal family

743
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 1: saying how bloody great it is. And I feel like

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00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 1: it was very strategic, especially after Harry put out claims

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00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:14,840
Speaker 1: that his brother is trapped within the Royal family. It

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00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:18,359
Speaker 1: looked bloody beautiful. We so nicely shot that video. What

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Speaker 1: do you guys think? Do you think it was used

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Speaker 1: as a method to debunk Harry's claims. This is definitely

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Speaker 1: what this video was about. The way that they showed

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00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 1: the family running through fields and you know, taking in

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00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 1: the beauty of where they lived. It was clearly trying

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00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:37,919
Speaker 1: to show how free they are, how lucky they are

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Speaker 1: to be in this family and overall how happy they are.

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Speaker 1: It's funny you say that because The Daily Mail had

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Speaker 1: a body language expert analyzed the video and they said

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00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 1: the playful outdoor behavior here is all about freedom of

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00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 1: both actions and emotions, and they also noted that the

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00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 1: three children looked wonderfully uninhibited. I really loved the inclusion

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00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:01,760
Speaker 1: of their children. They were it's so cute. Prince George

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00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 1: literally looks like a spitting image of Prince William and

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Speaker 1: I think it was really lovely to see those genuine

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Speaker 1: family moments and I don't care if it was a

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00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:13,880
Speaker 1: pr strategy. I loved the forty second video. I watched

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Speaker 1: it quite a few times. Kate Middleton's hair was looking

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Speaker 1: on points lashes, very lash's hair. I love the two

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Speaker 1: portraits they also revealed for their anniversary, which were shot

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00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 1: by photographer Chris Floyd, and the photos really showed them

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00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:29,400
Speaker 1: looking very relaxed. Kate and William were holding hands and

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Speaker 1: hugging in the grounds of their Kensington home and I

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00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:36,399
Speaker 1: just think that they have played it perfectly. Yeah. I

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00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:40,840
Speaker 1: am really interested to see how Kate Middleton continues to evolve.

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Speaker 1: I mean I'm shocked that she is turning forty next year.

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Speaker 1: I think that will be a real milestone and it

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00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 1: will be really interesting to see what path she continues

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Speaker 1: to take. We saw at Prince Philip's funeral that Kate

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00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 1: was very much being touted as the peacemaker and the

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00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:01,240
Speaker 1: glue holding the family together, because we saw her quickly

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Speaker 1: walk ahead to allow Prince Harry and William time to

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00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:08,279
Speaker 1: speak after the funeral. And I do think that Kate

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Speaker 1: Middleton really is a very important piece in the Royal

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00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 1: family's puzzle. I totally agree, and I do feel like

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Speaker 1: the future of the monarchy really does depend on Kate

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Speaker 1: and William's love story like it has for the Queen.

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Speaker 1: I mean, everyone loves the Queen. They loved the Queen

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Speaker 1: and Prince Philip together and that amazing relationship, and sadly,

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Speaker 1: I think everyone wants to believe in that fairy tale.

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Speaker 2: You can't taste anything, not a Gillian cigarettes, a date.

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Speaker 1: What's up?

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Speaker 3: What? What do you need to It's some sort of

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00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 3: delicious biscuit.

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Speaker 1: It's a coaster. Let's get into the influencer wrap and

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00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:52,360
Speaker 1: Sammy Robinson's latest makeup tutorial made me realize how behind

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00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 1: the trends, I actually am so In the video, she

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00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:58,319
Speaker 1: proceeded to put on liquid blush and she put it

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Speaker 1: on her cheeks but then also on her nose, and

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Speaker 1: she said that she really was going for that sunbird

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Speaker 1: embarrassed flush look. Now, Sophy, do you do this with

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Speaker 1: your makeup? Well, I go for very mad look. So

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Speaker 1: I actually don't use liquid products. I mean it's not

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Speaker 1: out of choice. I'd try and conceal my frogles most

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Speaker 1: of the time, so the liquid stuff does not work

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Speaker 1: for me. However, I am a big one for blush.

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Speaker 1: I mean I never stopped using blush when the whole

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00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 1: bronzer trend came in fashion. But I think she looks great.

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Speaker 1: She could literally put anything on and look fabulous. And

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00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:36,239
Speaker 1: apparently this trend has been inspired by kaa Wee anime girls. Now.

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Speaker 1: I shared this video in our Facebook community, and I

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Speaker 1: felt ostracized because it seems like I'm very late to

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Speaker 1: this trend. A lot of the girls are like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: We've been wearing it for a while. Actually, when I

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Speaker 1: got ready this morning, I made sure to put extra

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Speaker 1: blush or after seeing this, because apparently people were saying, oh,

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Speaker 1: it looks very youthful. Well, I'm down for this trend.

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Speaker 1: I always love a bit of blush. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if I'm cool enough to wear it on my nose

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00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 1: just yet, like I've or I mean quite funny because

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Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of girls always try and

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Speaker 1: hide the redness on their face, so it seems very

819
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,839
Speaker 1: foreign to actually be trying to add it. But maybe

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Speaker 1: I'll have to try it out, especially if I want

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Speaker 1: to look young. I loved him.

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Speaker 3: You're so many mixed me all my life. You don't

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00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:19,480
Speaker 3: even care. You are such a big I'm not gonna

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00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:22,399
Speaker 3: fucking calm down. I come home, I have the work

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00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:24,360
Speaker 3: day of my life and you come in and you

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Speaker 3: have nothing. You give me no fucking support, you have

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Speaker 3: no It's just a dumb, fucking fat bitch.

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Speaker 1: So fuck now. Following on from our expose about the

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Speaker 1: Calaisle Hotel or, we spoke to Britney Daisy about her

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Speaker 1: experience with being asked to take her post down. It

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Speaker 1: seems that Britney Saunus has fallen victim to the Calai

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Speaker 1: Hotel social media policy. So the OG influencer enjoyed a

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00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 1: staycation at the hotel this weekend and on Friday, she

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Speaker 1: uploaded some photos where she posed inside her hotel room

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Speaker 1: and tagged her brand Fate the label, as well as

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Speaker 1: a shoe brand. Now, it wasn't long until these tags

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Speaker 1: were removed. Well, she was also posting about her stay

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Speaker 1: on her Instagram story and she shared a picture of

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Speaker 1: her drink. Now, she originally tagged the hotel, but then

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00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 1: quickly removed this tag, and I wonder if she realized,

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00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 1: oh shit, I've probably alerted the hotel that I'm staying

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00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 1: here and now they're going to be watching everything I do,

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00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 1: so then she quickly deleted it. Now, for those who

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Speaker 1: are curious or new listeners, we will leave the episode

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Speaker 1: where we discussed the Calisle Hotel's social media policy in

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00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 1: more detail in the show notes. Yeah. Interestingly, though, people

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00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:35,360
Speaker 1: notice that when you try and reply to Brittany's comments

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Speaker 1: on the photo and try and tag the Carlisle Hotel,

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Speaker 1: you can't. So I don't know if that's something that

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00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 1: she's implemented or potentially the hotel. I'm not sure. Last year,

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Speaker 1: ID to go with the horse rading and it was

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Speaker 1: just fantastic. I didn't know you could ride horses, but

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Speaker 1: it wasn't a real horse aad like it. It was

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Speaker 1: this old fellow with a sad lunum.

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Speaker 2: It must have been about eighty you know. Of course

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Speaker 2: he couldn't go very fast.

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Speaker 1: Like you know, it was kind of lashing them with

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Speaker 1: the weaponar one.

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Speaker 2: I couldn't get much of a response out of them.

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Speaker 1: You know, how long were you up on them? I

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Speaker 1: would say, it was about I don't know now. I

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Speaker 1: never thought that I would find myself in a situation

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Speaker 1: where I related to Lily Brown so much so. Lily

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Speaker 1: Brown and her mother were at Audi supermarkets looking to

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Speaker 1: buy a couple of bottles of wine. Now Lily is

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Speaker 1: twenty three years old, and she realized that she did

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Speaker 1: not have her ID with her, so she said to

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Speaker 1: her mom she'd wait out the front of the store

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Speaker 1: while my mum purchased the wine. So her mother went

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Speaker 1: through the checkout and was served by quite a rude

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Speaker 1: girl who told her I need to see your daughter's

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Speaker 1: ID in order to allow me to sell you this alcohol.

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Speaker 1: And her mother said, I've got my idea here I'm

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Speaker 1: showing you. And she said no, because you're with her,

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Speaker 1: you may be supplying her with the alcohol and she

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Speaker 1: may be un but isn't that the parent's prerogative anyway, Well,

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Speaker 1: you would think so, so Lily and her mum had

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Speaker 1: to leave with no alcohol. Her mum then decided to

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Speaker 1: return to the store an hour later, and she went

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Speaker 1: through the checkout and there was now a man serving her,

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Speaker 1: and she thought, okay, this should be fine. The man

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Speaker 1: then said to her, oh, we're not serving you. You

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Speaker 1: were here before with your daughter. That woman's alerted me

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Speaker 1: before that I'm not to serve you for the rest

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Speaker 1: of the day. What, Oh my gosh, do you think

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Speaker 1: that the girl knew it was Lily Brown and doesn't

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Speaker 1: like her. Perhaps so this has actually happened to Amy

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00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 1: and I before. For one of the Christmas parties, we

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Speaker 1: went down with our little cousin Stuart, who was fifteen

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Speaker 1: at the time, and we bought the most girly drinks

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Speaker 1: you could think about, and he was sitting in the

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Speaker 1: car and we showed our idea and the same thing

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Speaker 1: happened to us. So we were told that we cannot

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Speaker 1: purchase the alcohol with him in the car, as we

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Speaker 1: look like we're supplying him with alcohol. The absolute joke,

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Speaker 1: if it was. We then sent our other cousin down

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Speaker 1: who was under age but looked about twenty five with

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Speaker 1: his girlfriend. They didn't get id'd at all and got

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Speaker 1: supplied with the alcohol. It's really strange, Like I can

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Speaker 1: kind of more understand the situation where you were barred

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Speaker 1: from buying alcohol because it was like, you know, a

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Speaker 1: group of young people. However, you would think when a

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Speaker 1: mother was trying to buy some alcohol with her daughter, like,

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Speaker 1: does that mean if you're shopping with your seven year

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Speaker 1: old that you have to you know, like you're not

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Speaker 1: allowed to buy alcohol. It doesn't really make sense exactly.

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Speaker 1: Lily Brown and her mum actually raised that argument as well,

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Speaker 1: and they were going to return to Audi just for

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Speaker 1: the sake of it with Lily's ID and say, are

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Speaker 1: we allowed a shop now? However, they'd actually purchased wine

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Speaker 1: from a different store and were too drunk to drive bag.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. I can totally see where the frustration

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Speaker 1: comes from, because again I had an experience where I

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Speaker 1: was making a gingerbread house at Christmas time. This was like,

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Speaker 1: I think it was early twenties, and I tried to

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Speaker 1: buy vanilla essence and apparently I needed an ID for

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Speaker 1: because at the time, there was like a tax on alcopops,

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Speaker 1: and there were thoughts that like young people were buying

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Speaker 1: vanilla essence to put in their coke and stuff because

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00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:14,440
Speaker 1: like Coca cola, because it was cheaper. And yeah, so

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Speaker 1: I got idea trying to buy vanilla essence and I

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Speaker 1: was so offended because they wouldn't let me have it.

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Speaker 1: And I was like, it's quite clear, I'm trying to

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Speaker 1: build a gingerbread house. It was like, you know, icing

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Speaker 1: and lollies and all these things. That's made sense. There

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Speaker 1: needs to be a bit more common sense with these things. Oh,

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Speaker 1: exactly right. Well, I think that's all we've got time

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Speaker 1: for today. Thank you so much for joining us. We

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Speaker 1: hope you enjoyed today's episode, and if you did, we

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Speaker 1: and also can you please tag us where you're listening from.

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Speaker 1: I really enjoyed seeing the post pop up last week.

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Speaker 1: I'm also so sorry if you guys have been hearing

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Speaker 1: the very annoying construction sounds. I'm actually about to blow

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Speaker 1: my top of the people next week. We're recording this

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Speaker 1: on a Saturday, and this is still going on. The

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Speaker 1: house is bloody shaking. I actually thought there might be

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Speaker 1: an earthquake, and I was quite worried, but yes, thank

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Speaker 1: you for joining us, and we will be back in

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Speaker 1: your ears on Friday,