1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:02,840 Speaker 1: Before we get into today's episode, we want to send 2 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 1: our sincere condolences to those affected by the Bondi terror attack. 3 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:10,720 Speaker 1: We pre recorded today's episode before the attacks occurred. We're 4 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 1: in shock that something like this could happen in Australia. 5 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 1: The images coming out from the attack are horrific. If 6 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:19,440 Speaker 1: you're looking for a way to help, Life Blood has 7 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:22,760 Speaker 1: issued several orders for own negative blood Sending all our 8 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 1: love to the Jewish community and the people of Bondai. 9 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to Outspoken. It's your bite sized dose 10 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 1: of the hottest influencer and pop culture news this festive season. 11 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 1: I'm Sophie Torber and coming up on today's show, the 12 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 1: horrifying reality of Indy Clinton's nose reconstruction, the truth behind 13 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 1: a British TikTok's viral luxury advent calendar, and the Ossie 14 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 1: Farmer with a striking resemblance to an OG beauty influencer, 15 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 1: the first Tammy Hembro has revealed her social media hiatus 16 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 1: is over. The OG influencer has spent the last couple 17 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 1: of weeks offline to film for a new reality show 18 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 1: called Shark. So Tammy took to her Instagram Stories on 19 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 1: Friday to reveal she's easing herself back onto social media. 20 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:09,919 Speaker 1: She's actually been receiving a lot of messages from fans 21 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 1: being like, are you okay? Yeah, because she said it's 22 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 1: the longest time she's actually ever been off social media, 23 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 1: which is saying something. I can see why people are 24 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 1: concerned they need their Tammy content. I mean, last week, 25 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 1: I think it was one of the first episodes in 26 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 1: quite some time that did not include a topic about 27 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 1: Tammy hambro Well. She hasn't posted on TikTok since the 28 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 1: twentieth of November. She was a little bit more active 29 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 1: on Instagram, posting pre recorded ads for Black Friday, but 30 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 1: she properly hasn't been active for weeks now, so we 31 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 1: don't know what's going on in her life. I wonder 32 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 1: how this hiatus will affect her social media performance because 33 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 1: Tammy said it's the first time in ten years she's 34 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 1: been offline for this long. For those who aren't across 35 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 1: how the algorithm works, the more you post, the more 36 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 1: Instagram and TikTok rewards you. So when you do have 37 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 1: an off period but you're not posting, your post then 38 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 1: doesn't get put out to as many people. I have 39 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 1: noticed that slide note with my dog's Instagram account because 40 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 1: since having a child. Yes, I haven't been quite as 41 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 1: active on there six months iatus for you. No, actually 42 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 1: I've posted a bit here and there. But yeah, it's 43 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:12,359 Speaker 1: really crazy because he's got like over thirty five thousand followers, 44 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 1: but fishing for new followers sometimes, yeah, getting desert. Sometimes 45 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 1: I put a post out and I only get a 46 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 1: couple of hundred likes. I'm like, what's coming on? Well, 47 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:21,079 Speaker 1: you've really got to feed that algorithm. And I wonder 48 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 1: if it's worth it for Tammy to be appearing on 49 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 1: this TV show, if it's going to ruin how well 50 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 1: her post perform on social media? Because I say, bread 51 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 1: and butter really yeah, but once she's back, she'll be 52 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 1: posting every single day again, I'm sure, and I have 53 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 1: missed her content. Do you think maybe she might post 54 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:38,119 Speaker 1: something controversial? Because she said that, you know, once she's 55 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 1: back online, she's going to fill everyone in on everything 56 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 1: that's been going on. It was kind of a bit 57 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 1: of a hook to be like, well, what has been 58 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 1: going on? I mean, to be honest, I don't personally 59 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:47,399 Speaker 1: care about the TV show. I want to know what's 60 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 1: been going on in a private life. And I feel 61 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 1: like the hiatus came at a good time for her 62 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 1: because just before she went offline, she was spotted getting 63 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:58,360 Speaker 1: cozy with the owner of the management company that she 64 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:01,640 Speaker 1: is managed by. I feel like public sentiment was turning 65 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:03,359 Speaker 1: a little bit on her at that point. So maybe 66 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 1: it's good that she's been offline for a few weeks 67 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 1: and people are missing her now. 68 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. 69 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:10,639 Speaker 1: I think some influencers can definitely become too oversaturateed, and 70 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:12,519 Speaker 1: I think that's been the case for Tammy this year. 71 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 2: Where to start this if I'm even going to post this, 72 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 2: but I just need to get this off my chest 73 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 2: because I feel sick in the stomach. 74 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:24,239 Speaker 1: Indy Clinton has tearfully opened up about her corrective nose job, 75 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 1: saying she feels sick to her core about the impending surgery. 76 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: The popular TikToker is set to go under the knife 77 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 1: for a second time following a rhinoplasty in March which 78 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 1: left her with a nose She says she didn't ask 79 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 1: for so. In the tearful video, Indy said she had 80 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 1: PTSD from the first operation. Yeah, and it's not really 81 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 1: surprising to see why It's been a really tough twelve 82 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 1: months for Indy Clinton. Since she had her surgery in March. 83 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 1: She has been relentlessly trolled by low lives online who 84 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 1: have mocked the appearance of her new nose, and some 85 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 1: have even gone as far as saying that she ruined 86 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 1: her face, which it's been horrendous to see the things 87 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 1: that people think are perceptible to say online. It's shown 88 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 1: a really ugly side of TikTok. Yeah, And the reality is, 89 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 1: while Indy was copying this barrage of hate, she was 90 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 1: having to come to terms with the fact that something 91 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 1: drastically went wrong during this surgery. So Indy went in 92 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 1: to fix a small bump on her nose which she 93 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 1: sustained during a surfboarding accident, and she says that she 94 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 1: asked for some minor tweaks, but came out with a 95 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 1: nose that looked completely different and structurally has issues. This 96 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 1: is the first time that she has actually confirmed that 97 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 1: structurally something is wrong with her nose. In this TikTok video, 98 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 1: she revealed that her nose will have to be completely 99 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 1: reconstructed as she could no longer breathe through it properly. 100 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: Let's take a listen to some of what she said. 101 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 2: I haven't spoken about this on I guess at deeper 102 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 2: level because my coping mechanism is a joke about things 103 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 2: and that's what I do to kind of protect myself. 104 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 2: But now I'm getting it fixed, I feel like I 105 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 2: can speak a little bit easier, feel sick to my 106 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:56,279 Speaker 2: call about it, probably because I have PTSD from my 107 00:04:57,080 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 2: first operation that was this year in mind and earlier 108 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:03,919 Speaker 2: this year, I had a rhinoplastia and it resulted in 109 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 2: an outcome that I didn't want to ask for or 110 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 2: even sign off on, which has resulted in I guess 111 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:13,719 Speaker 2: I can't breathe through my nose anymore. Have to reconstruct 112 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 2: my nose now, which it really terrifies me. It's a 113 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 2: for hour surgery and we have to get cattlage from 114 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 2: my rib to support my nose again. Really hoping, praying, 115 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 2: wishing I have an incredible outcome and I'm in save hands. 116 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 2: I know I'm in save. Hans is an incredible surgeon 117 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 2: and he's one of Sydney's top surgeons for rhinoplastis and revisions. 118 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 2: It's more just internally what I'm dealing with, and I 119 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:47,359 Speaker 2: just I don't know. I don't know. 120 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:50,920 Speaker 1: You could sense a lot of fear in Indy's voice 121 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 1: when she was talking about this, and a lot of anxiety. 122 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 1: I mean, after the experience that she's had, you can 123 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 1: see why she's terrified to go back under the knife. 124 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 1: She would be putting so much trust in this new 125 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 1: surgeon's hands. What particularly shocked me was that they have 126 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 1: to get cartilage from her ribs to help reconstruct her nose. 127 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:10,159 Speaker 1: I saw some people in the comment saying, oh, why 128 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 1: can't they take it from your ear? And then other 129 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:14,280 Speaker 1: people were like, well, it must be a big job 130 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 1: if they're having to take it from her rib because 131 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 1: obviously that cartilage is bigger. That's absolutely horrifying. I didn't 132 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 1: even know that that was a thing. No, I didn't either. 133 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 1: I just was like, I can't even imagine having to 134 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:26,360 Speaker 1: go through it, particularly because she knows that there's going 135 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 1: to be a lot of commentary around what it looks 136 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 1: like next. There's going to be huge anticipation around what 137 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 1: the new nose looks like, whether the surgeon has been 138 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:38,919 Speaker 1: able to fix it, and I suppose whether it looks 139 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:41,719 Speaker 1: like what her original nose did. I mean, this video 140 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:44,599 Speaker 1: has already attracted a huge response online. At the time 141 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 1: of recording, it has over one point four million views 142 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:50,280 Speaker 1: and one hundred and sixty seven thousand likes. It has 143 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:53,600 Speaker 1: also elicited a huge response in the comment section, and 144 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 1: it points to a potential court case. So one user wrote, 145 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:00,720 Speaker 1: I would be suing that other place that met stit up, 146 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:03,720 Speaker 1: whilst another said I would be getting a lawyer if 147 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:06,839 Speaker 1: they have caused you so much pain physically and emotionally 148 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 1: all the bullying you have suffered. Isn't fair praying for 149 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 1: you take care now. It's quite telling because Indy liked 150 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 1: both of those comments, pointing to the fact that there 151 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 1: is a potential lawsuit that is being issued towards this 152 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 1: plastic surgeon who did the initial nose job. Well, she 153 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 1: also hinted at a lawsuit in a video she filmed 154 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 1: after the TikTok Awards when she was talking about her 155 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 1: behavior on the red carpet, and she mentioned how a 156 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 1: reporter had asked her about her nose and she said, 157 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 1: can't talk about it for legal reasons. Well, it's interesting 158 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 1: because she is clearly using her comment section to get 159 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 1: her message across, Because there was even another comment where 160 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 1: someone said, curious why you aren't allowed to mention the 161 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 1: first place. It can't be defamation if it's true and 162 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 1: your honest experience, and someone replied underneath saying she's most 163 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 1: likely in the midst of a lawsuit so is unable 164 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 1: to make comment on it online to protect the case. 165 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 1: And Indy also liked that comment, So it's like she's 166 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 1: using those comments to say, look, this is what's happening. 167 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 1: I mean, I think India has a very good case, 168 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 1: considering that not only is she not happy aesthetically with 169 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 1: the nose, but the fact that she can't breathe properly. 170 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 1: I mean, clearly something majorly wrong has gone on during 171 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 1: the surgery. I think this comment really encapsulated the whole situation. 172 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 1: One user wrote, doesn't help that everyone's been a c 173 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 1: to you either, which got over fifteen hundred likes, And 174 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 1: it's true. I mean, can you imagine going in for 175 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 1: surgery it essentially being botched, and then everyone poking fun 176 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 1: at you, and assuming that you were really happy with 177 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 1: the results. Yeah, it would be a very difficult pill 178 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 1: to swallow. Well, particularly because she has come out and 179 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 1: said that the surgeons kept telling her, oh, don't worry. 180 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 1: It's going to improve, It's going to look better. This 181 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:44,319 Speaker 1: is what happens. You've got to wait a year. Yeah, exactly. 182 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:47,679 Speaker 1: They were obviously gaslighting her a bit. Abby Chatfield also 183 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 1: weighed in on the comment section, writing this is so hard. 184 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:52,959 Speaker 1: I'm so sorry. This should not have happened. You look 185 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 1: incredible always, of course, but this is so morally wrong 186 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 1: that someone did this to you. Sending love and this 187 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 1: new surgeon will fix. I'm sure it's quite interesting because 188 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 1: I didn't know that they were friendly at all. Like, 189 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 1: it's weird. They seem to be from two very different 190 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 1: walks of TikTok, if that makes sense. Like it was 191 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 1: sort of nice to see Abby reaching out to her 192 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 1: in this way. When I read Abby's comment, I could 193 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 1: tell how carefully she must have written it, because it 194 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 1: is a really difficult topic to broach, because you've got 195 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:23,440 Speaker 1: all these horrible people online saying, oh, you know, Indy's 196 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 1: nose looks so bad, But then you've got Indy saying, well, 197 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 1: I'm also not happy with it. But you feel like 198 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 1: if you do acknowledge the fact that potentially it doesn't 199 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:34,440 Speaker 1: look like the way it's supposed to, your being a 200 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 1: troll as well, and it's such a difficult one. Yeah, 201 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 1: you want to be supportive, but you don't want to 202 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:41,319 Speaker 1: kick someone when they're down. But I think she, I 203 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 1: think Abby handled it pretty well. I mean, at the 204 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 1: end of the day, Indy Clinton is a beautiful woman, 205 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:48,080 Speaker 1: regardless of what her nose used to look like and 206 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 1: now looks like. But I just really hope that she 207 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:52,080 Speaker 1: gets a result this time that she's happy with that 208 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 1: makes her feel confident and beautiful in her own skin. 209 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 1: And I knows that she can breathe through exactly. Who's 210 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 1: Michael Finch? And what do a lot of you keep saying? 211 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:04,239 Speaker 1: Me and him are twin brothers or we got separated 212 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 1: from birth. An Aussie farmer by the name of Dallas 213 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:12,080 Speaker 1: Dwyer has gone viral on TikTok for bearing a striking 214 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 1: resemblance to oji beauty influencer Michael Finch. The young dad, 215 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 1: who has attracted over one hundred and seventeen thousand followers 216 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 1: on the app for sharing about his life on the farm, 217 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:26,080 Speaker 1: has recently been inundated with followers saying the pair are 218 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 1: long lost twins. Let's take a listen to what he said, Bruh, 219 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 1: I looked up Michael Finch and the first thing that 220 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 1: come up was Ken from Barbie's Dreamhouse or dream Well. 221 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 2: Whatever it is. 222 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 1: What do you mean I'm the roughest mother, you know, 223 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 1: I'm just rough as all gods. I'm a rough country fella. 224 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 1: That's a pretty boy, you know what I mean. Stop. 225 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 1: This popped up when I was scrolling TikTok and I 226 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 1: had to do a double take. It was so funny, 227 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 1: particularly the accent this guy has, because he's just your quintessential. 228 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 1: That's what I loved about this as well, that these 229 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 1: two men come from such different walks of life, yet 230 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:08,960 Speaker 1: they look exactly the same. I mean there's something about 231 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 1: their eyebrows. For those haven't seen the video, it's in 232 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 1: the eyes. I think. We reshared the video recently on 233 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 1: an Instagram story and we had so many people saying, 234 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 1: hang on, that is Michael Fincher. Isn't it like is 235 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 1: this just a parody, because I mean that's kind of 236 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 1: the vibe. You got. What I love about it is 237 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 1: as soon as people probably started commenting on his videos, 238 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 1: hey you look like Michael Finch, he would have done 239 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 1: the Google search and I had to type in Michael 240 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 1: Finch to see what photos he received, and of course 241 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 1: he got all of the ones from Michael's og beauty 242 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 1: days where he had obviously so much makeup on. Well, 243 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 1: I mean he looks like Michael Finch now in his 244 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:42,199 Speaker 1: cooking ear does. Yeah, but I love it because you 245 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 1: know when someone tells you, oh, you look like someone famous, 246 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:45,319 Speaker 1: and then you're gonna look them up and you're like 247 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 1: what the fuck? Like I reckon, he was like, what 248 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:49,960 Speaker 1: the hell? I love that Michael Finch has been getting 249 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 1: around in the comment, so he wrote under the initial video, 250 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 1: maybe it's the eye color brother with a laughing face. Now, 251 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 1: Dialas replied saying, potentially with two laughing faces. I just 252 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:02,680 Speaker 1: love that this video made it into Michael Finch's orbit. 253 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 1: I mean it has had half a million views. Well, 254 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:08,560 Speaker 1: surely people were taking it. Yeah, very true. One user 255 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:11,080 Speaker 1: actually pointed out that they think that Dallas looks like 256 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:14,319 Speaker 1: a mix between Michael Finch and Mitch Orville, which received 257 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:16,680 Speaker 1: close to seven hundred lives. So I can see that 258 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 1: these two need to do some sort of collaboration together. Yes, 259 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 1: they definitely do. Maybe he could do a cooking video 260 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:24,079 Speaker 1: with Mike on the farm. I feel like they also 261 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 1: need to do it to clear up any rumors that 262 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 1: they aren't two separate people. There, it's just Michael Fritz 263 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 1: putting on an act. So we have a surprise for you. 264 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 1: There's something I'm going to lie. Well, we have a 265 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 1: very special adving under you have one thing for every day. 266 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 1: The partner of a British TikToker is being touted husband 267 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:55,200 Speaker 1: of the Year after he set up a surprise luxury 268 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 1: advent calendar for his wife. However, as the days go 269 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 1: past and another designer give is unboxed, viewers are starting 270 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 1: to question whether it's just a big marketing ploy. Okay, 271 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 1: can you tell us more? Well, the recipient of this 272 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 1: austinageous advent calendar is thirty year old Leonora Smi So. 273 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:16,320 Speaker 1: She is a former competitive show jumper who moved into 274 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:19,960 Speaker 1: brand strategy and content creation after an accident ended her 275 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:25,200 Speaker 1: writing career. So her specialty is event curation and luxury 276 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:29,439 Speaker 1: brand strategy, which makes sense because she is filthy rich. 277 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:33,199 Speaker 1: So while she made her money representing Great Britain show jumping, 278 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:36,839 Speaker 1: she also comes from a very wealthy family. Well, as 279 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 1: soon as I heard show jumping, I just assumed that 280 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 1: she was rich Well. According to her website, she also 281 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 1: is a trained opera singer, So I mean that just 282 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 1: ticks another box, doesn't it. You kind of get the 283 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 1: picture of who she is if you haven't seen her content, 284 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:52,680 Speaker 1: she kind of has Lydia Millan vibes. She is a 285 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 1: UK influencer who we spoke about a couple of years 286 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 1: ago when she received backlash for checking into a luxury 287 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 1: London hotel when her boiler broke during the cost of 288 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:06,319 Speaker 1: living crisis. I remember that that was actually twenty twenty two. 289 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 1: If you believe it's that was a while ago. Now, 290 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 1: that is insane. Well, when you watch Leonora's content, it's 291 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:15,080 Speaker 1: pretty clear money is no problem, and it appears people 292 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 1: are pretty invested in her very privileged life because she's 293 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 1: attracted more than one hundred and thirty four thousand followers 294 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 1: on TikTok and sixty five thousand YouTube subscribers. Her content 295 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 1: is very polished. I've seen a couple of videos that 296 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 1: have clearly been shot by professional videographers. Well, the video 297 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 1: you're talking about is her vlogmus introduction, So she had 298 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 1: a professional camera crew down at her mansion shooting this content. 299 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 1: It's absolutely beautifully shot. It's quite ironic because in the 300 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 1: video her luxury car pulls up and it's got a 301 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 1: Christmas tree, like a live Christmas tree on top, and 302 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 1: they take it inside. However, she actually unboxed a nine 303 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 1: foot tall bout some hill tree, so it's kind of like, well, 304 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 1: which one is it? But if you're that rich, you're 305 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 1: going to have a couple of Christmas trees in your house. 306 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, you were absolutely correct. I'm wrong there, but 307 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 1: I mean people have bedroom Christmas trees. Mollly May has one. 308 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 1: She would have a number of living rooms. I'm sure 309 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 1: that all needs to be decorated with a Christmas tree. 310 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 1: That is completely true. I'm sorry, I'm not in my 311 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 1: rich mindset at the moment. If a faux part on 312 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 1: your own, it is well. In terms of this advent calendar, 313 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 1: at the start of December, Lenora went viral after she 314 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 1: shared her husband surprising her with it. Now, her husband's 315 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 1: name is Mark and they've been married since twenty twenty 316 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 1: one and they met in the equestrian world of course, 317 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 1: so he is the director of an equestrian company and 318 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 1: is believed to work in asset management. So what we've 319 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 1: been led to believe is apparently off his own back. 320 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 1: He created this advent calendar for Lenora. Now I say 321 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 1: advent calendar, but essentially he selected twenty five gifts for 322 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 1: her and put them under the bowsam Hill tree, and 323 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 1: every day she opens one of these gifts on camera. Now, 324 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 1: the first video of the unveiling of the idea went 325 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 1: absolutely viral. At the time of recording, it's had over 326 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 1: eight million views. When the caption of the TikTok, Lenora 327 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 1: gushed about how she had no idea how her husband 328 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 1: managed to pull it off without her realizing. However, a 329 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 1: sentence later, she tagged the designer brand where the present 330 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 1: came from. Now, for those playing at home, was a 331 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 1: silk scarf that retails for a couple of one hundred dollars. 332 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 1: Oh so, was that the cheapy item to kick the 333 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 1: month off? I mean, for me, what was a huge 334 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 1: red flag to begin with was the fact that all 335 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 1: of these presents were professionally wrapped. They had the most 336 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 1: beautiful red bows on top of them. I thought, this 337 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 1: guy hasn't organized this. Yeah, there's been a few clues 338 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 1: that he's had a lot of help. It's quite funny 339 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 1: because the general consensus from this first video was that 340 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 1: Lenora was a spoiled brat. The top comment on the 341 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 1: video read did you hear thank you? I didn't now. 342 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 1: This comment received over thirty seven thousand likes. There was 343 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 1: also a lot of confusion around her husband, Mark, because 344 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 1: many people assumed that he was her dad because there 345 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 1: is a bit of an age gap there. I'm glad 346 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 1: that got cleared up because people would have been particularly 347 00:16:57,320 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 1: confused on day ten of the Advent calendar when she 348 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:05,360 Speaker 1: unboxed Lingerie or disturbed. I think by the second video, though, 349 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 1: people were starting to become more invested, so one person wrote, 350 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 1: did anyone find this kind of annoying at the beginning? 351 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 1: But now fully invested every day? It's almost like a 352 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:17,239 Speaker 1: modern day gifting guide for men, for hopeless men who 353 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:19,680 Speaker 1: don't know what to get their partners in saying that 354 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:21,359 Speaker 1: I kind of feel like the lingerie is a present 355 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 1: for himself. I don't know if that's a present for her. 356 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 2: Well. 357 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 1: It was pretty gross because he's like, oh, after this one, 358 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 1: I hope I get lucky tonight, and she's like, you 359 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:29,639 Speaker 1: can't say that. It seems like she doesn't even like 360 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 1: him when she's a rapidly more present shut up. Yeah. Well, Interestingly, 361 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 1: in the caption of the second video, Lenora thanked her 362 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 1: quote husband, mother and team for pulling it together. And 363 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:46,119 Speaker 1: by day four, after Lenora unboxed a design address and 364 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 1: gloves for herself and then pet accessories for her four 365 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:52,639 Speaker 1: sausage dogs, it was becoming apparent this was all a 366 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 1: giant ad. No way. One person wrote, so, I'm a 367 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 1: bit slow picking up on this, but it's one big ad, 368 00:17:57,960 --> 00:17:58,360 Speaker 1: isn't it. 369 00:17:58,560 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 2: Now. 370 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:00,679 Speaker 1: In a bit to try and throw people off the 371 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 1: scent that this was in fact just twenty five days 372 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 1: of brand deals, it wasn't a surprise advent calendar like 373 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:08,920 Speaker 1: she claimed, Lenora put in a bit of a red 374 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:11,440 Speaker 1: herring into one of her videos. Yeah, so for day 375 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 1: five she had her mom sit and watch her on 376 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 1: box the gift. So in the video, Lenora started quizzing 377 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:19,880 Speaker 1: her mum, asking if she had helped her husband pick 378 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:23,639 Speaker 1: out all of these amazing gifts, and the mom goes, oh, no, 379 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 1: I said to him that you don't need anything. However, 380 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 1: he insisted that he really wanted to do this, so 381 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 1: she then helped him with some of the ideas. The 382 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 1: lingerie you got hope not. And it was really clear 383 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 1: that the mum, even though she's filthy rich, was trying 384 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:40,879 Speaker 1: to appeal to the masses because she said, I'm so 385 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 1: jealous because your dad just runs around a farm shop 386 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 1: on Christmas even buys me a wooly hat. It's like, 387 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 1: judging by the way this woman presented herself, there is 388 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 1: no way that actually happens. Like I am sure she 389 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 1: is absolutely spoilt, rotten like her daughter. Now, after Lenora 390 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 1: pumping up the fact that her mum had helped with 391 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:01,679 Speaker 1: Day five's gift and not a yeah and saying it 392 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 1: was so nostalgic, Lenora proceeded to open a piece of coal. 393 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 1: Well maybe that's what everyone in the comment section thought 394 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 1: she needed for being a bit of a brat. Yeah, Well, 395 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 1: it turns out that Lenora's parents gave her coal when 396 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:14,440 Speaker 1: she was seven because she was being a brat, which 397 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:17,359 Speaker 1: I thought spoke polumes and it was pretty funny. In 398 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:20,400 Speaker 1: the following video, Lenora said to her husband, why did 399 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 1: you let mummy get me coal? Her calling her mum 400 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 1: mummy at thirty years of age just tells me everything personality. Well, 401 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 1: the big question for me is what is she getting 402 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 1: on Christmas Day, Like, how do you top these extravagant gifts? 403 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:36,119 Speaker 1: Surely it's some holiday or something. No, well, she already 404 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 1: got given a trip to Paris a color weekend. Yeah, yeah, 405 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:41,639 Speaker 1: probably a car. Also, what's she buying her husband? A 406 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 1: lot of people have been asking, well, what are you 407 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 1: getting here, and she said she's working on it. So 408 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 1: are people picking up sort of sugar dad vibes? Is 409 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 1: that what's sort of going on here? So she's actually 410 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:52,880 Speaker 1: the one that appears to have the money in this relationship. 411 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:55,160 Speaker 1: So it points even more to the fact that this 412 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 1: is some massive brand deal. Also the fact that in 413 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 1: her Instagram buyer it reads that she's a luxury brand strategy. 414 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 1: Just like, this is clearly some big strategy she has 415 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 1: put together and it is really working. She's clearly good 416 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 1: at what she does. I mean, these videos have received 417 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:11,119 Speaker 1: so much engagement. It's a new way to get people 418 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:14,880 Speaker 1: excited about certain luxury gifts. It's pretty brilliant. I mean, 419 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,680 Speaker 1: she's got everyone hooked. And I know there's been mounting 420 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:21,160 Speaker 1: criticism that it's consumerism at its worse and she should 421 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 1: be donating gifts to children. But I do think we 422 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:26,159 Speaker 1: just need to enjoy it for what it is. It's 423 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:29,399 Speaker 1: a bit of Christmas escapism at its best. Well, I 424 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 1: think that is all we have time for today. Thank 425 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:33,879 Speaker 1: you so much for joining us for this special, bite 426 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 1: sized episode. We really enjoyed putting it together. If you 427 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:40,919 Speaker 1: are looking for more content, we drop new subscriber episodes 428 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:44,639 Speaker 1: every Thursday. It's basically an extension of this show, and 429 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:47,959 Speaker 1: I think it's much needed, particularly when every other podcast 430 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 1: is off on holidays. At the moment, there's nothing around 431 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 1: to listen to. So if you want to get a 432 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 1: dose of even more influenced from pop culture news, sign 433 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 1: up to Outspoken Plus. It's a great Christmas present. I 434 00:20:57,240 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 1: mean it is, and it's very cheap. It's the perfect 435 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:02,920 Speaker 1: i'd say a gift for yourself as well. It's five 436 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:05,400 Speaker 1: ninety nine a month. You get four episodes a month. 437 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 1: I mean, it's actually almost too cheap, i'd say. So 438 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 1: this is really a hard seller. Well, this episode was 439 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 1: recorded on the traditional land of the Ghana people of 440 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 1: the Adelaide Plains. We pay respect to Elder's past and present, 441 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 1: and I hope everyone is starting to feel a bit 442 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 1: more festive. I know I certainly am