1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,760 Speaker 1: And it does seem like the Dog Operations Unit have 2 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 1: been deployed a lot recently, arresting a prison ESKP this 3 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:08,960 Speaker 1: week as well as a group of offenders in Berry 4 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 1: Springs in relation. 5 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 2: To a car theft. 6 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 1: I believe there was another incident as well where the 7 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:18,640 Speaker 1: Dog Operations Unit were of assistance and an offender ended 8 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:19,239 Speaker 1: up being. 9 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 2: Caught on the roof of a of a home. 10 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:24,800 Speaker 1: Now joining me in the studio right now to talk 11 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 1: a little bit more about the Dog Option Unit and 12 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:29,480 Speaker 1: the wonderful work that they are doing. 13 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 2: Is Sergeant Stephen Dalrymple, Good morning to you. 14 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:35,159 Speaker 1: Morning, lovely to have you in the studio, and of 15 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 1: course Senior Constable Matthew Hohagen, good morning to you. 16 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:44,159 Speaker 2: And we have also got patrol dog Dras. Good morning Drags. 17 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 2: I don't know if he's going to uh, it's not 18 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 2: going to talk for me, is he? 19 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 1: Oh? 20 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 2: There we go. Good morning to Dras. 21 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 1: I tell you what to those out there listening this morning, 22 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 1: Drax is an absolutely beautiful looking dog. 23 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 2: He's glorious, Stephen. Is he a German Shepherd, isn't he? 24 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 3: Yes? 25 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a very large German shepherd. And I tell 26 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 1: you what I would not want to be on the 27 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 1: wrong side of drax. 28 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 2: No, not many do, now, can you both. 29 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 1: I know that there's been quite a few situations where 30 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 1: the patrol dogs have been required in recent days and weeks, 31 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 1: I mean ongoing, like it's something that they are obviously 32 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 1: doing all the time, catching criminals and catching those that 33 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:25,959 Speaker 1: are doing. 34 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 2: The wrong thing. But this week or the last week 35 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 2: or so, it seems as though it's been a really 36 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:33,040 Speaker 2: busy one for our patrol dogs and for you guys 37 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 2: of late. 38 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 4: I think it's been busy all year pretty much realistically. 39 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 4: Now that we've got three patrol dogs operating in Down 40 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 4: there's drags, there's Wedge, and now Daily, I think we 41 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 4: come to attention because we're out there more and more, 42 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 4: whereas previously we were struggling for numbers and things like that. 43 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 3: We've got another fellow that's due to graduate. 44 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 4: In September with Arnie. Yep, he should be out in 45 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 4: the road come mid September. 46 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 3: So yeah, we'll have a full compliment of four of us. 47 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 2: Is Arnie a big units Daily's brother? 48 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so similar size. 49 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:13,679 Speaker 1: And now Daily's just sort of just graduated or just 50 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 1: finished training. 51 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 2: Tell us about his training. 52 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 1: Tell us what he had to do to, you know, 53 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 1: to get to the point where he is out there 54 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 1: apprehending offenders. 55 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 5: Yeah. Well, it's been a long, a long process. You 56 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:27,640 Speaker 5: had him from eight weeks of age and he's now 57 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 5: just over eighteen months and he's h hit the ground 58 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:31,799 Speaker 5: run and so it's been the best part of two 59 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 5: years and we're both just super excited to be able 60 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 5: to get out there and actually contribute to our team 61 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 5: and also to the community. 62 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 2: And it's amazing work. 63 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 1: The work that you guys as handlers and also the 64 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 1: dogs do incredibly helpful. I would suspect, you know, say, 65 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 1: when Strikeforce Trident is working to apprehend you know, people 66 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 1: around property offenses, and sometimes it can be a little 67 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:56,360 Speaker 1: bit difficult if those offenders try to escape. 68 00:02:57,480 --> 00:02:58,079 Speaker 3: Yeah. 69 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 4: Correct, So as ERIONA has tried and as there go 70 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 4: to properly offending team, they look after most of you 71 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:08,800 Speaker 4: or all your unlawful entries and your most of the 72 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 4: cars that are stolen around and there's been quite a 73 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:13,239 Speaker 4: few of them, especially the highlux riety in the Langres 74 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:14,080 Speaker 4: variety of late. 75 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 3: We generally work. 76 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:19,639 Speaker 4: Arm in arm with them or HANDI Paul, Yeah, let's 77 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 4: call it and when people are on the run, you know, 78 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 4: we do whatever we can to try and apprehend them 79 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 4: and bring them forward. 80 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, we'd heard a little bit earlier 81 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 1: in the week, or I think it was yesterday a 82 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 1: situation where I think it might have been Wedge who'd 83 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 1: been instrumental in helping to offend or to apprehended offender 84 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 1: who'd ended up up on a roof. The handler, I 85 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 1: think ended up having to obviously apprehend that person, but 86 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 1: very much with the assistance of Wedge. 87 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 3: That's correct, That's correct. 88 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 4: By the time the handler actually you put the dog 89 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 4: in the down and he climbed up to see whether 90 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 4: anyone was on the roof as he was going up 91 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 4: the roof, they were coming down the roof, and then 92 00:03:57,840 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 4: they tracked him across the road towards a bowling club 93 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 4: and located to very scared little people. 94 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 1: Well, this is the thing, you know, the dogs they 95 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 1: are amazing dogs. You know, they're glorious looking dogs. But 96 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 1: once they turn it on, they certainly know how. 97 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 2: To do their work. 98 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 1: Like, how difficult is it in terms of that training. 99 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 1: Because it's something I've spoken to you guys about before, 100 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 1: where in years gone by, the police dogs sort of 101 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 1: weren't so friendly when you know, when they are out 102 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 1: and about. Whereas it can see from drags this morning, 103 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 1: he's happy as to be in here in the studio. 104 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:34,720 Speaker 1: But then once it comes time to actually, you know, 105 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 1: to apprehend someone, I'm assuming that his personality changes to 106 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 1: some degree. 107 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 3: Our methodology has changed significantly. 108 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:44,280 Speaker 4: We used to have the land sharks is what they 109 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:45,599 Speaker 4: used to call them, which would go and by and 110 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 4: anything any time. 111 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:46,840 Speaker 1: Yep. 112 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:52,040 Speaker 4: That doesn't really instill any confidence in the community because 113 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 4: everyone sees you are scared of you and things like that. 114 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:56,039 Speaker 3: We're not about scaring people and things like that. 115 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 4: We're just about taking people into custody as safely as 116 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:00,280 Speaker 4: you can. 117 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 1: Now, can you tell me what's it like being a 118 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:05,839 Speaker 1: handler of these dogs? Do you have to be super fit? 119 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 1: Have you got to be able to run with them. 120 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 2: To keep up. 121 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 3: Because I'm carrying a couple of. 122 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, there is certainly a level of fitness that you 123 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 5: have to maintain, and you have to keep up with 124 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 5: the dogs, and you don't want them getting away from you, 125 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 5: that's for sure. 126 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. Now, Drax has got a green toy there. What 127 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:25,720 Speaker 2: is that? 128 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 3: That's his tug? 129 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:29,719 Speaker 4: That's his reward for the ultimate reward for him will 130 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 4: be that yep, as opposed to previously. It might be 131 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:36,479 Speaker 4: a bit during an apprehension and things like that, but 132 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 4: at the end of the day, he loves a game 133 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 4: with me and this toy. 134 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 1: Now, how valuable are the three police dogs that we've 135 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:46,480 Speaker 1: got in terms of being able to do your jobs? 136 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:47,479 Speaker 3: Priceless? 137 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:50,600 Speaker 4: Absolutely, Well, that's a little bit of vice there, but 138 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 4: as far as i'm can turn, their priceless because they 139 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 4: can de escalate a violent situation pretty quickly. As we 140 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:01,160 Speaker 4: saw with Hoagues and daily to day there was that 141 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 4: eskp not saying that he was violent towards us at all, 142 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:07,919 Speaker 4: but he's attitude quickly changed from wanting to run away 143 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:11,839 Speaker 4: to I'll be submissive because of and simply because the 144 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:12,600 Speaker 4: dog was presented. 145 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, and we've spoken before as well about that incredible 146 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 1: situation where there was an elderly woman who'd been lost 147 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 1: near the waterfront. This was a year or so ago now, 148 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:25,040 Speaker 1: and I believe it was Widge who'd helped to find her. So, 149 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 1: you know, not even just in apprehending people, but the 150 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 1: search and rescue so skills I would imagine as well 151 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 1: are quite amazing. 152 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, the dogs are very good at what we do 153 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 4: or what they do. Sorry, we spent a lot of 154 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:44,840 Speaker 4: time training and things like that. So they just with 155 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:47,480 Speaker 4: the dog with the correct amount of drive, it actually 156 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 4: ends up being relatively easy. So yeah, probably taking credit 157 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 4: for something that is a natural. 158 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:58,160 Speaker 1: No, I mean, obviously they do require a lot of training, 159 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 1: how like, So it takes about eighteen months really to 160 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:02,599 Speaker 1: train them to get to this point. 161 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 4: Well, it depends again on the maturity of the dog. 162 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 4: Arnie's a little bit slow with his maturity to Daily. 163 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 4: That's why Daily is out in the road now. So 164 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 4: you've got to recognize what the dog is putting out 165 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 4: and what is capable of the time. Because the other 166 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 4: thing is you don't want to throw a young dog 167 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 4: into a situation that is going to overwhelm him and 168 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 4: have him have an adverse reaction from the dog where 169 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 4: he goes. 170 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 3: Oh, you know what, I don't want to work anymore. 171 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 3: This is not my thing. 172 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 4: And especially if you're at that eighteen month mark or 173 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 4: twenty month mark, now that Matt's out in the road, 174 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 4: if he comes across the situation, he might have to 175 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 4: de escalated by removing himself from the situation so that 176 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 4: there's no adverse reaction to the dog. 177 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 1: And what is the working life span of our police dogs. 178 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 4: We try and get five years of working life out 179 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 4: of the dog. It's very difficult to climatic conditions up here, 180 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 4: so you find history has shown us that we don't 181 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 4: generally get that. 182 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 3: The only one that we've had working here from go 183 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 3: to way was Lupo. Yeah, my old dog. 184 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 4: He's still going luckily enough, but yeah, he got six 185 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 4: years of working life. 186 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, and they work incredibly hard. What a good boy. 187 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 2: Drax is being over there, Hey, just sitting keeping an 188 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 2: eye on you, Matthew, making sure that everyone's saving. Now, 189 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 2: tell me, do the dogs have a special diet? 190 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 3: Black book is without selling the brand, but that's pretty 191 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 3: much what were dogs shoreing? 192 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, yep. 193 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 1: Well, we really appreciate you bringing Dracs in this morning. 194 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 1: I know that you all work incredibly hard, but so 195 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 1: the dog in it. At the moment, three three of 196 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 1: our patrol dogs, but that's going to increase to four, correct, Yeah, 197 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:47,680 Speaker 1: amazing stuff. I think the work they do is amazing. 198 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 1: I think the training that happens now as well, the 199 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:52,319 Speaker 1: way that they're able to interact with the community, when 200 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 1: they're not sort of you know, switched on to apprehending 201 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 1: someone is phenomenal. You know, the way that he can 202 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:01,559 Speaker 1: just come in here, be friendly with everybody, then when 203 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 1: he's got to do his job, he knows he's got 204 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:06,679 Speaker 1: to do his job. It's amazing stuff. Thank you so 205 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 1: much to all three of you for coming in this morning. 206 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 1: Sergeant Stephen Dalrymple of course, and Senior Constable Matthew ho 207 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 1: haagen Bush also patrol dog Drax. Thank you so much 208 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 1: for being in the studio with us this morning. 209 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:20,679 Speaker 2: Thank you. 210 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:23,319 Speaker 1: It is just after ten thirty, and we will make 211 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:24,960 Speaker 1: sure that we get a photo with Drags as well, 212 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 1: because I know all of you probably wanting to see Drax.