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Speaker 2: Good morning and welcome to the Daily os. It's Tuesday,

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Speaker 2: the twentieth of December. I'm Sam, I'm zara. An a

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Speaker 2: league men's game was abandoned over the weekend after fans

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Speaker 3: Foreign Affairs Minister Penny Wong will travel to Beijing today

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Speaker 2: The Bass Straight off the Victorian region of Gippsland will

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Speaker 2: be home to Australia's first offshore wind zone, following an

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Speaker 2: This is an interesting one to chat about. There's been

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Speaker 2: Well, Melbourne Victory have been issued with what's called a

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Speaker 2: the A League men's and women's competitions will remain in Sydney.

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Speaker 2: There's been no change in the decision and it seems

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Speaker 2: there doesn't seem to be a shift from officials. But

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Speaker 2: I guess for the future of football, you've got to

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Speaker 2: understand that football fans and football in Australia hasn't always

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Speaker 2: world stage to keep up investment in the young talent

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Speaker 2: and into the grassroots game. But something has turned this year,

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Speaker 2: and looking ahead to the absolutely wonderful event of a

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Speaker 2: Women's World Cup on our home turf next year, it

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Speaker 2: did feel like the tide was beginning to term. I

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