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Speaker 1: Are you a mayonnaise person. Chances are if you are,

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Speaker 1: you have your absolute favorite and as one of the

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Speaker 1: most popular dressings or even spreads. We reached forward a

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Speaker 1: flavor of our salads and sandwiches. We thought it was

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Speaker 1: time for a review of mayonnaise. Hi, I'm Susie Barrow

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Speaker 1: and I'm Liam Wood, and as two of us days

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Speaker 1: leading dieticians who specialize in evidence based nutrition, we bring

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Speaker 1: you the Nutrition Couch product review well weekly chat on

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Speaker 1: new products and old favorites you can find in the

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Speaker 1: supermarket solely mayonnaise. Now, I have to be honest with you,

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Speaker 1: I am not a mayonnaise fan, except I love chicken sandwiches,

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Speaker 1: and so if I find like one of those amazing

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Speaker 1: chicken sandwiches that's got the celery and the nuts cut

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Speaker 1: in and it's like in a mayo mix, like, I

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Speaker 1: adore that. Like if I could learn how to make those,

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Speaker 1: I would be a very happy person. But I actually

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Speaker 1: don't really use or buy mayonnaise. So I'm coming into

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Speaker 1: this a little bit left wing. I guess it's not

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Speaker 1: something I'm overly familiar with. So I was interested to

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Speaker 1: see the products we've picked today. But are you are

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Speaker 1: you into mayo?

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Speaker 2: Nah, I'm not really a Maya go. I'm like you,

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Speaker 2: like if I've got a fresh chicken sanger, and this

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Speaker 2: is like as oussy as we can get. I think,

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Speaker 2: like you know, fresh nice hot chicken breasts and fresh salad,

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Speaker 2: a really nice fresh roll. Of course I put some

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Speaker 2: mayonnaise on there, but I don't even have mayonnaise in

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Speaker 2: my fridge. Like, it's just not something that I use routinely.

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Speaker 2: I know, I've got a lot of clients who just

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Speaker 2: love it. They put it on everything. My brother loves mayonnaise,

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Speaker 2: he puts it on everything. But I'm just not I

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Speaker 2: think it's not really a big sandwich person as well,

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Speaker 2: Like I would rarely eat a sandwich and less I

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Speaker 2: was out somewhere and it was a convenient kind of

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Speaker 2: lunch option. Do you know, It's not really my thing.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm not really a big Maya person. But

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Speaker 2: we have got a lot of requests for it, so

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Speaker 2: we thought we should we should definitely cover it because

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Speaker 2: it is a sort of oussy cult favorite.

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Speaker 1: It's so popular. I like, there's so many, So we've

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Speaker 1: got three we're going to have a look at today,

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Speaker 1: and the first one is the Coal's mayonnaise, which is

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Speaker 1: listed as ninety seven percent fat free now retails for

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Speaker 1: three dollars. The first thing I will say, which might

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Speaker 1: be a little bit I don't know, maybe it's a

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Speaker 1: bit naive or a bit silly, but as soon as

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Speaker 1: I see ninety seven percent fat free in a mayo,

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's real mayonnaise because mayonnaise is high fat.

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Speaker 1: That's the mix of it. So I'm always a little

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Speaker 1: bit like, well, it's kind of not really proper mayonnaise,

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Speaker 1: that would be my first takeaway from it. But you know,

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Speaker 1: it is lower in fat and calories because of that.

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Speaker 1: But ye know, in my mind it's not true kind

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Speaker 1: of mayo when it's low fat. But obviously from a

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Speaker 1: health perspective, it makes a difference. So let's have a

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Speaker 1: look at the numbers. So I service twenty five grams,

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Speaker 1: so that would be a good heaped tablespoon one hundred

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Speaker 1: and almost one hundred and fifty killo duels per serve,

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Speaker 1: or thirty five calories, not much protein, very little fat.

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Speaker 1: There's a low fat food with less than three percent fat,

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Speaker 1: nothing saturated, quite a lot of carbohydrate seven grams, so

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Speaker 1: of that is sugar, is almost at four point seven

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Speaker 1: gram so you're getting like a teaspoon of sugar in

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Speaker 1: that product, which is a little bit of lumming. One

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Speaker 1: hundred and seventy five milligrams of sodium, which is not

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Speaker 1: overly and significant given that it's a small amount. We

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Speaker 1: almost a tenth of that in one tablespoon. So it

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Speaker 1: does add up ingredients water, white, vinegar, sugar, may start,

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Speaker 1: canola oil, antioxidant, salt, egg, lemon juice, vegetable gum, preservative,

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Speaker 1: veggie powder, food acid, spicex strikes herbax structs, natural color.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, it's a low fat product. They're basically mixing

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Speaker 1: a range of different ingredients to give the sour flavor

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Speaker 1: of mayonnaise without the whole egg base that was giving

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Speaker 1: the fat load that we see in sort of a

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Speaker 1: high fat regular mayonnaise. Pretty processed, a lot of bits

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Speaker 1: and pieces in it, but it's made in Australia, at

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Speaker 1: least eighty nine percent of Australian ingredients. You know, i'd

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Speaker 1: like a low fat dressing, you know, a little bit.

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Speaker 1: It's not going to harm you, and the grand scheme

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Speaker 1: I'd give it a six out of ten. You know,

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Speaker 2: This is one where i'm because it's such a small

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Speaker 2: loved Mayo, I work with ladies predominantly for fat loss,

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Speaker 2: and I've got to keep the calories in check, so

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Speaker 2: I don't really want them having, you know, one hundred

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Speaker 2: going to put in a sandwich. So this is probably

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Speaker 2: something that I personally would recommend for my clients if

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Speaker 2: for me, you know, it's energy density. It's probably half,

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Speaker 2: if not more, you know, half the calories of some

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Speaker 2: grand scheme of things, I think, considering how little we

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Speaker 2: I would probably be pretty happy to recommend there's even

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Speaker 2: though it is a little bit more processed. I'm probably

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Speaker 2: and the lower calorie option in the grade scheme of things.

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Speaker 2: That's my personal view.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a fair call. If you're keeping calories control,

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Speaker 1: don't mind the flavor.

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Speaker 2: And I've tried it, it's actually not bad either. It's

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Speaker 2: not like it tastes like to me. It just kind

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Speaker 1: Well, it's just not creamy, you know, when you have

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Speaker 1: the full fat I do use sometimes mayonnaise in a pie,

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Speaker 1: Like I've got a recipe for a pie that you

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Speaker 1: mayo and it creates a creamy texture. So it is

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Speaker 1: So you know, it's got a much richer mouthfeel. Whereas

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Speaker 1: I have tried the low fat ones, they're sort of

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Speaker 1: which is the QP Japanese Mayonnaise, three hundred grams four

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Speaker 1: doll Is this like a well known product that people like,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, full disclosure. We threw it in there because this

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Speaker 2: is like cult favorite. And shout out to our student Amy,

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Speaker 2: This is something that I think, I think they use

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Speaker 2: it in a lot of like sushi places in Japanese places,

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Speaker 2: a QP mayo. It's something that a lot of client's

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Speaker 2: enemy like, I love mayo. I will only have this one.

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Speaker 2: sort of like a cult favorite. The mayonnaise love was

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Speaker 2: it is pretty calorie dens. It packs a punch, so

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Speaker 2: this is good.

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Speaker 1: This is real mayonnaise. So this is soybean oil, egg

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Speaker 1: yolk nine point five percent to still a vinegar salt, rice,

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Speaker 1: vinegar water flavor in hants to sixty one, so a

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Speaker 1: nice smash of MSG, and they're just a flavor it

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Speaker 1: up and a preservative. So but you're right calorie wise,

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Speaker 1: so you're looking at about one hundred calories per serve,

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Speaker 1: be getting close to two hundred calories in this mayonnaise. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's like five six times the amount calorie wise then

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Speaker 1: favorite mayo, use it very very very sparingly. That's eleven

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Speaker 1: grams of fat in fifteen grams. It's basically all fat packs.

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Speaker 1: So if you've got with thirty grams a heap tablespoon,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna get like twenty two grams of fat. Let's

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Speaker 1: packing a big pipe plus a MSG plus two. I

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Speaker 1: wonder people like the taste of it, yeah, because it's

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Speaker 1: got all that fat plus and MSG to go along delicious.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's funny. That makes sense why they use it

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Speaker 2: But it's interesting that soybooan oil is the first ingredient, Like,

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Speaker 2: I find that quite interesting, Like I've never really heard

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Speaker 2: of soybean oil before. Yeah, I guess it's quite traditional

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Speaker 2: how they make that Japanese mayonnaise.

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Speaker 1: And I'm just having a look at the list of

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Speaker 1: we should have done this before. Actually the ingredient list

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Speaker 1: of like a, there's sort of ones they use in

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Speaker 1: and smoked salmon. They've got a couple of mayos that

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Speaker 1: MSG is an interesting one.

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Speaker 2: Hey, well you do that, I'll go through the nutrition panel.

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Speaker 2: So this one, it actually says on the ingredient list

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Speaker 2: contains egg, mustard, preservatives, soy and soy bean, so a

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Speaker 2: few you know, allergies there to be aware of. And

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Speaker 2: in terms of the nutrition panel, as Susi mentioned, it's

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Speaker 2: only fifteen grams serving size, so compared to the Coal's

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Speaker 2: low fat one that was twenty five grams, you get

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Speaker 2: significantly less serving size, significantly more calories. So you got

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Speaker 2: four hundred and forty kilo gills per fifteen grand serving,

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Speaker 2: which is, you know, sort of one hundred calories. You've

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Speaker 2: got basically no protein in the eleven point four grams

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Speaker 2: only one point eight grams of that are saturated fat,

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Speaker 2: so the fat balance isn't actually too bad. Very minimal

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Speaker 2: carbohydrate less than a gram of carbs basically the mayos

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Speaker 2: or fat. There's no ruler for carbs, zero grams of sugar,

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Speaker 2: zero dietary fiber and they're obviously and one hundred milligrams

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Speaker 2: I'd never give mayonnaise a ten out of ten, no

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Speaker 2: matter how good it was. But I think in terms

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Speaker 2: maybe a six or seven. When it comes to mayonnaise,

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Speaker 2: the QP mayor or SUSI, it'd be hard pressed to

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Speaker 2: even get two stars to two out of ten from me.

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Speaker 2: How do you feel? I'm a I'm a bit harsh

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Speaker 2: taste wise, probably ten out of ten, let's be honest.

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Speaker 2: But nutrition panel wise, there's nothing really in there that

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Speaker 2: does it for me.

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Speaker 1: Well, I don't like the MSG well the S and

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Speaker 1: W Mayo, which is a very well known brand as well.

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Speaker 1: They are also using soybean oil and also nine percent eggs,

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Speaker 1: so that's obviously a bit of our just recipe. But

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Speaker 1: the one I'm thinking of is Helman's Helmans is the

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Speaker 1: really famous one that a lot of people will only

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Speaker 1: have Helmans, and that's listed as vegetable oil seventy seven percent,

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Speaker 1: so then disclosing what type, which is alarming, and that's

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Speaker 2: And if you're someone that loves the sushi that is

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Speaker 1: And if you ever have the chance to ask for

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