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Speaker 1: Joining me live in the studio. Right now, the Lord

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Speaker 1: Mayor of Darwin convect scarlets.

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Speaker 2: Good morning to you.

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Speaker 3: Con Are you freezing?

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Speaker 1: Oh it's beautiful weather went below twenty degrees.

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Speaker 4: I've seen people wearing card against believing we must be

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Speaker 4: here for a long look.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, you're sautiful weather. We're so not like weather

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Speaker 2: or cool weather? Fish are we?

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Speaker 3: Their wedding is the nineteen seventies card against the.

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Speaker 1: Well. Look, I have got a long sleeve shirt on today,

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Speaker 1: but I always have a long sleeve shirt on in

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Speaker 1: here because it gets cold in this studio. Ironically not

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Speaker 1: cold today. Yeah, but anyway, beautiful weather, absolutely beautiful weather,

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Speaker 1: and so nice to have the dry season here.

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Speaker 4: Give you and the cur and will start complaining has

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Speaker 4: been too dry? When's their work coming back?

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Speaker 2: Exactly?

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Speaker 1: Exactly, smary, yes, exactly now plenty happening. I know the

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Speaker 1: final design for the revitalization of Chapel Lane.

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Speaker 2: It was released late last week.

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Speaker 1: So the design to transform that laneway focuses on connectivity,

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Speaker 1: safety and activation. It was informed by engagement with stakeholders.

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Speaker 2: So where exactly is this and how's it going to look?

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Speaker 4: Okay, you know what the Hills of Hotel Is in

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Speaker 4: Misis Street, yep, and you know what, the Korean restaurant

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Speaker 4: is there. All that area is going to be completely

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Speaker 4: down revitalized. It's going to be a pedestrian plaza. We're

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Speaker 4: going to have more shades. The Lane Waste is going

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Speaker 4: to be open area for people to sit down and

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Speaker 4: heat drinks and walk to the galleria. We're going to

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Speaker 4: put the soft lunch floor space, nice, more trees, more

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Speaker 4: pedestrial lighting, and that will be for one point three

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Speaker 4: million dollars.

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Speaker 3: Working together with the government.

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Speaker 4: It's something we actually want to do it because you

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Speaker 4: go to Man we see all the Lane Wheree activated

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Speaker 4: coffee shop restaurants here. The only one we've seen and

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Speaker 4: not activated yet is the West Lane, and now this

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Speaker 4: one is going to because it's already got restaurants. So

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Speaker 4: hopefully they will take advantage of this what we're creating

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Speaker 4: and have people sitting outside and enjoying the outdoors atmosphere.

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Speaker 2: I agree. I think it's a really nice thing to do.

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Speaker 2: I know when my kids were little as well.

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Speaker 1: If you've got sort of an area that has got

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Speaker 1: a little bit of space, it's a lot easier to

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Speaker 1: get out in the bouse.

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Speaker 4: You remember the old mahogany tree at the mall where

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Speaker 4: the fountains.

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Speaker 3: There used to be an outdoor area.

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Speaker 4: It was fantastic until it was cut down because myhoguans

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Speaker 4: are dangerous. But then you've got the other cops shop

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Speaker 4: on the top of the mall that put all the

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Speaker 4: plans out. What a beautiful place to sit down and

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Speaker 4: enjoy a cup of coffee. I want to see more

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Speaker 4: of that. This is the best place to sit outside

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Speaker 4: you in this time of the year, even if it's

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Speaker 4: a bit cold, but I I can live with it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree.

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Speaker 1: I think it's a good thing to do to get

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Speaker 1: those spaces activated. Corn One of the other areas where

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Speaker 1: I know the councils tried at different times have food

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Speaker 1: vats and things like that to keep the area activated

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Speaker 1: is the Espanade. What's going on there at the moment

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Speaker 1: In terms of that proposal to have the Espanade heritage listed, well, it.

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Speaker 4: Really puzzled me because Esplanite is actually a special open space.

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Speaker 4: It's got a special joining, a special gazetteing. So nobody

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Speaker 4: used right mind, will ever want to develop the Esplanade.

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Speaker 3: The only proper that we.

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Speaker 4: Had is actually to develop the lame bats, you know,

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Speaker 4: the bats at the bottom of the espy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: What the interesting thing is somebody.

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Speaker 4: Put a proposal to declare the esperanad. I don't know

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Speaker 4: why Heritage. That sat on the government's coffers for one

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Speaker 4: and a half year when the legislature is clearly you

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Speaker 4: months to advise the people to seek to seek comments.

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Speaker 4: That's sat there and all of a sudden appear in

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Speaker 3: We won't declare the explanat Heritage.

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Speaker 4: The other interesting thing is it stops just before the

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Speaker 3: It doesn't put anything else.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't include the levery baths.

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Speaker 3: Well, yes it does.

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Speaker 4: It goes five hundred meters into the sea, which for

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Speaker 3: Says why all of a.

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Speaker 4: Sudden you declare the explanat and you go five hundred

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Speaker 1: So you're questioning the government's motivational notes.

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Speaker 4: Question the motivation of the people they put it in.

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Speaker 4: And also now you the Action Planet, we're jumping up

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Speaker 4: and down about it. Alleging but the Council wants to

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Speaker 4: developed the esplant. No, no, no.

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Speaker 3: No intenship.

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Speaker 1: I actually think doing up the Lambrarui baths is a

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Speaker 3: It's its heritage because it used to be here seven

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Speaker 2: I did have to treat it with extreme care to

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Speaker 3: It was done with the waterfront area.

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Speaker 4: It called the same arguments when we're trying to do

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Speaker 4: the waterfront it will destroy Darwin.

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Speaker 3: It's heritage, you.

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Speaker 1: Know, making the esplanade like the waterfront absolutely not insan

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Speaker 1: even where are things at now? Because this went to court, didn't.

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Speaker 4: I well, it went to court because we're not arguing

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Speaker 4: about the declaration, were arguing about the process. You can't

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Speaker 4: just have the legislation that it stayed clearly how long

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Speaker 4: it has to go out for comments and then wait

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Speaker 4: a year and a half and come up it says

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Speaker 4: now this is it. I'm sorry, this is a legislation.

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Speaker 4: Pleasure for the follow legislation. I don't care if you're

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Speaker 4: the government or the Council. You have to comply with

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Speaker 1: And so corn I mean, does the Council have any

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Speaker 1: plans to do up the Lamaru buds or anything.

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Speaker 2: At this stage, I know there was a big time.

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Speaker 4: But it would depend on many factors. No intention of

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Speaker 4: actually touching the top of the esplanet. The interesting thing

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Speaker 4: is many years ago the Heritage Department assessed the whole

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Speaker 4: area where the old tunnels are and found there was

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Speaker 4: no heritage at all. The old tunnels, yes, the old tanks,

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Speaker 4: in the below the astronaut and then found not any issue.

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Speaker 4: The other thing that's interesting this heritage includes even the

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Speaker 2: So it's really so when are we going to find

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Speaker 4: Say if the whole process was legal or not, and

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Speaker 4: we're waiting for that. What the problem we've got is

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Speaker 4: not about development the espland because there's no intention a

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Speaker 4: toll to develop the espland a fantastic open space. We

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Speaker 4: want to keep it a fantastic open space. But the

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Speaker 4: other thing is if governments start not complying with their

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Speaker 2: So is it the government that you've taken a court

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Speaker 2: here or that, Well.

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Speaker 4: It actually is We're taking the government court because of

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Speaker 4: the declaration was out of it was out of time,

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Speaker 4: and it was a curious declaration waiting for a year

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Speaker 4: heritage came to the radio and says, oh I put

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Speaker 2: How bizarre.

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Speaker 4: I know, it's very bizarre, but that's the year before

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Speaker 4: the country has no intention of touching the esplanade. We

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Speaker 4: said that if the water from the expand the where

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Speaker 4: they promotionally explained, it would be a very good idea

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Speaker 4: to actually redevelop that area around the lamar U Bath

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Speaker 2: I think that that's a good idea.

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Speaker 1: I think the development of the Lamaru bads obviously respecting

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Speaker 1: the heritage. This thing is like the you know, the

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Speaker 1: history of the Lamaru baths. It would be a really

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Speaker 1: great thing to do. The other thing is, I don't

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Speaker 1: know if you've seen, but in cans with those with

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Speaker 1: and watch shows and it's phenomenal.

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Speaker 3: Come o care. You can't do things like that in Darwin.

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Speaker 2: Interesting literally in the Botanic Gardens.

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Speaker 4: Propause of this tank and the etera to become a

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Speaker 4: restaurant and for various regions did not happen. But you

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Speaker 4: know what, if you try to do something new in Darwin,

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Speaker 4: the whole old brigade of mimbis.

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Speaker 3: Will come out of pausing everything.

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Speaker 2: I get that people.

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Speaker 1: I get people have concerns and they want to make

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Speaker 2: But then I also think that's right.

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Speaker 1: They're not the only people, and you do need to

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Speaker 1: have You do need to make the city a vibrant,

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Speaker 1: think that sometimes you've got to look outside the box a.

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Speaker 4: Little absolutely, And I'm the only I'm the first one

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Speaker 4: left in Darwin after Cycle and Tracy. We have to

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Speaker 4: believe it or not. My origional idea about the War

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Speaker 4: the heavy construction of the old post office for verose

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Speaker 3: Now people come to me says it should be in town,

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Speaker 3: not in this point.

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Speaker 2: Corn.

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Speaker 1: A couple of quick ones to get through from our

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Speaker 1: listeners this morning. One here that says, can you please

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Speaker 1: ask the lord made when the toilet on the esplanade's

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Speaker 1: going to be fixed.

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Speaker 3: They're going to be fixed. We've got problem with the toilets.

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Speaker 3: They're affected by the salt water. We have similar problems

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Speaker 4: The electronic mechanism is affected and it's broken, so we're

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Speaker 4: trying to find a way to.

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Speaker 3: Actually do it.

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Speaker 4: Eventually they will be replaced because they give us a

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Speaker 4: lot of problem.

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Speaker 3: But now we're trying to fix them.

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Speaker 4: The atumatic mechanism that opens and closes automatically, and that

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Speaker 4: electronics are affected by the salt water.

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Speaker 1: Corn Judith's message through to say good morning Katie, thank

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Speaker 1: you to con the lane. Why ballards are being put

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Speaker 1: in today and in Moody Court and Judith's very happy

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Speaker 1: about that. By the sounds of us. One here from

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Speaker 1: flow from Lara Kia, good morning Katie. If the council

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Speaker 1: or government need advice on the var vines. Talk to

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Speaker 1: the folk at East Point Road. Their house is a

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Speaker 1: couple of doors down from Gorda Road outbound and they've

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Speaker 1: got a magnificent vine covering the total front of their

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Speaker 2: Now the Council's not in charge.

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Speaker 1: Of the vine over the over the side structure the vine.

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Speaker 4: I know the house you're talking about, it's a Greek

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Speaker 4: house and they've got the great vine.

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Speaker 3: Great vines are fantastic, believe it or not. I suggested

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Speaker 3: that as a joke for the structure and.

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Speaker 4: I think it might work actually, but we know we're

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Speaker 4: only the council and our boys don't know much about it.

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Speaker 3: That's why I'm not touching the structure monument. It can

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Speaker 3: stay there.

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Speaker 2: They have got to sort it out.

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Speaker 1: It is like a monument for things not working at

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Speaker 1: this point.

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Speaker 4: the Cavanagh Street is absolutely beautiful and the next the

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Speaker 4: new one we just did it will beautiful. But believe

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Speaker 4: it or not, Kate people complaining, why did you do

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Speaker 4: put the trees in the middle of the street.

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Speaker 3: How am I going took across the street? Yes? Well

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Speaker 3: please old people that no, you.

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Speaker 1: Can't convat Scolus, Lord Mayor of Darwin, good to catch

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Speaker 1: up with you.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk to you against.

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Speaker 3: Have a good morning, a stay warm you two.

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Speaker 2: Thank you