1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,040 Speaker 1: Now, yesterday on the show, you might recall, just before 2 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:05,920 Speaker 1: we wrapped up for the morning, that I had told 3 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 1: you about a message that i'd received about a lady 4 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 1: and her mum. So, a lady and her mum who 5 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:21,240 Speaker 1: were involved in a car crash near Tenant Creek. Now, unbelievably, 6 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:25,120 Speaker 1: both women were well. They were obviously involved in this 7 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 1: terrible incident, this terrible crash. Now, then one of these ladies, 8 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:35,239 Speaker 1: the mom Jenny, was in hospital, as I understand it, 9 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 1: in Alice, and then had her belongings stolen. Now, Jenny, 10 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 1: I believe, joins me on the line right now. Good morning, Jenny, 11 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:48,239 Speaker 1: Good morning. Thanks now, Jenny, thank you so much for 12 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:52,839 Speaker 1: joining us this morning. Firstly, can you tell me about 13 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:55,279 Speaker 1: the crash that you and your daughter were involved in. 14 00:00:57,040 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 2: Yes, well, there we were driving back from Melbourns. Of course, 15 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 2: with all the flubbing and rain, there were a lot 16 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 2: of potholes and water across the road, and sadly it 17 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 2: was my turn to drive and I hit one of 18 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 2: those potholes and peered off to the wrong side of 19 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 2: the road. And at the point I made the wrong 20 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:19,559 Speaker 2: decision of thinking I'm best to drive round a post. 21 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 2: I was heading towards rather than stair sharply on the road, 22 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:27,119 Speaker 2: and that's unfortunately doing that. The ground was so soft 23 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 2: we just dug in immediately and rolled the car several times. 24 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 2: So we were both airlifted by sorry I'm hostel, not healthy. 25 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 2: We were both airlifted to Ala Springs Hospital and my 26 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 2: daughter subsequently forwarded onto Adelaide's Hospital because she required spine surgery. 27 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 2: But what has really made me angry and seriously hampered 28 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 2: my recovery, I guess is I don't tend to deliver 29 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 2: those things. I've been a public servant my whole and 30 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 2: I'm used to following protocol. But in this instance, I 31 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:08,919 Speaker 2: had someone come into my rooms and steal my bags, 32 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 2: steal all of my cards, and immediately spend them on 33 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 2: thoughts scared huge amounts of alcohol and the casino. I 34 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:21,799 Speaker 2: reported that matter to the police back on the thirteenth, 35 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 2: and I'm yet to have them ring me for the details, 36 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 2: which just astounds me. And what really sends me is, 37 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:32,360 Speaker 2: you know, I've worked in that original affairs my whole life, 38 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 2: so that I know what serious needs are out there. 39 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 2: This was not a juvenile, This was like a middle 40 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 2: aged woman just pretending to visit people and came into 41 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:46,639 Speaker 2: my room and stopped it. 42 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 1: Well, we're having some issues there with your phone, Jenny. 43 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 1: That is horrifying. 44 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 2: Yes, it's scary, isn't it. 45 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:57,359 Speaker 1: It's bloody scary. 46 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:02,079 Speaker 2: A lot of failure duty of care on several fronts. 47 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:04,959 Speaker 2: I guess, because if I'd realized that was a common 48 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 2: event in the hospital, I would have maybe my staff 49 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 2: the stuff, should have locked my things away because I 50 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 2: was still a bit concussed, and you know, not in 51 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 2: full done of no faculties. But even so, to have 52 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 2: that matter recorded that long ago and sill have nobody 53 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 2: do anything. So I rang one of the businesses concerned 54 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 2: to ask them to keep their tape their CCTV because 55 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 2: I wasn't sure if they back up weekly or you know, 56 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 2: people have all sorts of different methods for that process. Yeah, 57 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 2: so that at least there'd be some records kept. But 58 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 2: I've we've not had any contact whatsoever, and I've spent 59 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 2: considerable time on the phone just trying to wring Alice 60 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 2: brief Springs Police Station and you can't even get through. 61 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 2: I actually got my husband to do it yesterday because 62 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 2: I was exhausted to it but it just worries me, Katie, 63 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 2: because at the time I spoke to that shop, the 64 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 2: guy said I'll keep your CCTV that I doubt if 65 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 2: the police will even follow it up. So the fact 66 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 2: that there's that public view on what will happen is concerning. 67 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 2: And I think it's that kind of attitude that led 68 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 2: to the noso's in the referendum. You know, it's the 69 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:30,359 Speaker 2: crime and general public by myself seeing that nothing's being done, 70 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:35,480 Speaker 2: nothing's being follows us, that contributes to much broader political 71 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:39,159 Speaker 2: decisions side people. So you know, it as sends me 72 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 2: for that reason. 73 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:43,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, and Jenny, do you know what I would be. 74 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 1: I'd be so angry if I was you. But I 75 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 1: think the thing is you like to me, you know, 76 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 1: you're grappling with having to deal with your health issues. 77 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:56,600 Speaker 1: You had seventy four bruises, three fractures, and then you're 78 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 1: dealing with the mental anguish of the fact that your 79 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 1: daughter is quite seriously injured. And I've met you both, 80 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:05,039 Speaker 1: your beautiful people. I actually, if I remember correctly, I 81 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:08,919 Speaker 1: met you because your gorgeous grandson was out doing something 82 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 1: really wonderful in the community around this time last year. 83 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 1: I think it was with the greatest shave, so raising 84 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 1: money in the community, being a really good you know, 85 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 1: a good egg. You guys are long term territorians, you 86 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 1: are you know, doing it like doing like you said, 87 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 1: you've worked in Aboriginal affairs for a huge part of 88 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:35,599 Speaker 1: your career and the fact that there's fifty years, did 89 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 1: you say, Jenny, yep, fifty years. 90 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 2: So what of sends me about that is that everybody 91 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 2: judges the crimes by these unreasonable people and blame the 92 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 2: whole Aboriginal community for that. And I've worked with some 93 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 2: beautiful people, continue to work with some beautiful, hard working 94 00:05:55,480 --> 00:06:00,159 Speaker 2: Aboriginal people, and they're probably more offended than us on 95 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 2: that original pat Yeah, they all get branded with that, 96 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:06,159 Speaker 2: you know, with that reputation. 97 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 1: When it's simply not the case. You know, you have 98 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 1: got like honestly, there's so many wonderful, wonderful Aboriginal Territorians 99 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 1: and at the moment it's a small minority that are 100 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:20,479 Speaker 1: doing the wrong thing. But you know, for you, with 101 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:24,480 Speaker 1: your stuff being stolen, can I ask Jenny, if you're 102 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 1: prepared to say, like how much money have they spent 103 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:29,039 Speaker 1: on your cards? 104 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 2: They they spent two thousand dollars that i'd just received 105 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:37,599 Speaker 2: from someone i'd length months paid me back. They've taken 106 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 2: all of that. There's probably up towards four thousand dollars 107 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 2: on the four different cards. And this chance, I had 108 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:48,040 Speaker 2: five hundred dollars cash, which I never usually had that 109 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 2: kind of amount of money. But I've been contributing to 110 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 2: a present for somebody, and you know the matter had 111 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 2: fallen through when the lady had paid me back that 112 00:06:56,400 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 2: money in Melbourne, So meant I unusually had five hundred 113 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:05,040 Speaker 2: dollars cash. But you know the follow up issue of 114 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 2: having to chase all those cards and get them canceled, 115 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 2: and and then I had to get on a plane 116 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 2: to be brought home again. That person left me with 117 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 2: no identific case and no money, you know, no means 118 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 2: to do anything, and then spent it on drog and gambling. 119 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 2: If they'd spent it on some aboriginal relative that needed 120 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 2: some help, I might have been some forgiveness. That's grog 121 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 2: and gambling. 122 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 1: Well, that's the thing you're not. I would not be 123 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 1: happy at all, Jenny. Can I ask before I let 124 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 1: you go this morning, how's your daughter going at the moment? 125 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 2: She's unfortunately too well mentally, so she's making lots of 126 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 2: these calls, but she has to wear a brace on 127 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 2: her legs. She's got three broken disks in her spine, 128 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 2: so she's washed her job because she can't work. And 129 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 2: three eighteen, it just we're struggling a bit. 130 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 1: Oh, Jenny, I'm I'm really really sorry that this has 131 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 1: happened to your family and and I can't imagine how 132 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 1: tough you guys are going right now. Look, someone's already 133 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 1: messaged or called through and said, I want to give 134 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 1: I want to donate one hundred. 135 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 2: Dollars to Jenny. 136 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 1: And I know that's not what why are you're coming on? 137 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 1: You know, I know that's not you know what you're. 138 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 3: After, But people have people are wanting to Yeah, no, 139 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:34,680 Speaker 3: And but look, people are listening this morning and they're like, 140 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 3: they're really feeling heartbroken for you guys that you know, 141 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 3: when you're at that point where it's very bloody low, 142 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 3: after you go through something shocking like a car crash, 143 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 3: and then for somebody to go into your room at 144 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 3: the hospital, like surely the hospital has CCTV inside. 145 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 2: You would hope, wouldn't it. 146 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 1: You would hope, So let us follow it up for you, Jenny, 147 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 1: and let us also contact the Northern Territory Police. You know, 148 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 1: this matter does need to be followed up, particularly when 149 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 1: you've got thousands of your dollars. 150 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 2: To get away with it because of the broader implications 151 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 2: of it. Well, Jenny about getting my money back, because 152 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 2: I'll probably get some back through the bank. I'm not 153 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 2: sure how that works, but that these kind of people 154 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 2: need to be stopped because they just ruined reputations and 155 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 2: they contribute to bad decisions politically inside the rest of us. 156 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 1: Well, and you know, Jenny, the thing is like, if 157 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:35,560 Speaker 1: this person's gotten into your room and stolen your stuff, 158 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 1: who else a is have they gotten into? You know? 159 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 2: That's yeah, they should be back there today. I'd say, yeah, 160 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:42,559 Speaker 2: well look. 161 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 1: Let us let us try and follow it up at 162 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 1: the very least. I really appreciate you getting in contact 163 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 1: with us. Please pass on my love and well wishes 164 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 1: to Nicole Hope. I hope that she's on the end 165 00:09:57,720 --> 00:09:59,680 Speaker 1: and we will talk to you very soon. 166 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you. Appreciate the time, anytime, anytime,