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Speaker 1: Jum mission with Jonesy and Amanda Well.

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Speaker 2: I know that here in New South Wales have been

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Speaker 2: in lockdown for three and a half months and there

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Speaker 2: have been some very dark days. And if ever I

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Speaker 2: felt down, I thought of this woman, Meldo Zelde. She

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Speaker 2: has an incredible story to tell. She's been terminali il

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Speaker 2: four times, she's had cancer, steel battles with all of that.

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Speaker 2: In the midst of that, gets diagnosed with motor ner

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Speaker 2: own disease. Yet she is one of the happiest people

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Speaker 2: I have ever met. She's impressed Oprah, who insisted that

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Speaker 2: she write about what she calls her terminal happiness, and

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Speaker 2: she joins us now mel dea ZELDI, Hello.

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Speaker 1: Hello, good morning, Happy freedom.

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Speaker 2: Day, Freedom Day, Happy freedom Day. And as I said,

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Speaker 2: in the midst of some dark days, I thought of

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Speaker 2: you and how you see happiness as a choice, and

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Speaker 2: that's what you've chosen to do.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely why not choose that? It's there for us all?

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Speaker 2: So, how did have you always been this, Sonny or

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Speaker 2: was there a moment of an epiphany where you thought

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Speaker 2: this is how I going to deal with this.

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Speaker 1: Look, I think I have always been this sunny Apparently

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Speaker 1: Mum used to put me out in the crib in

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Speaker 1: the front yard when I was a little girl, and

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Speaker 1: she'd go inside and turn around there'd behalf a neighborhood

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Speaker 1: hanging around my crib because I'd called them in. So

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Speaker 1: I think I've kind of always been a bit like this,

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Speaker 1: but I do choose it intentionally.

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Speaker 2: So tell us about your story and how you became

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Speaker 2: ill and how you've dealt with all of that.

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Speaker 1: Well, I've been with an ongoing battle with cancer now

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Speaker 1: since twenty seventeen. It kind of actually happened originally when

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Speaker 1: I was pregnant with my youngest child, who turns twenty

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Speaker 1: one this weekend. So it's been going on for a

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Speaker 1: very long time, and it's been quite grueling Stage four

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Speaker 1: rectal cancer. I've had nine surgeries to date, lots of chemotherapy,

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Speaker 1: lots of radiotherapy, and during the hard times, I decided

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Speaker 1: that I had to go to a happy place to cope.

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Speaker 1: So even when I couldn't lift my head off the pillow,

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Speaker 1: I would take myself off to my happy place, and

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Speaker 1: I actually wrote a children's book whilst I was doing that. Well,

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Speaker 1: I've got to do something positive out of this, and

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Speaker 1: so that's the sort of thing I did to keep

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Speaker 1: myself in a high vibe.

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Speaker 2: How do you do it? There's an indigo a girl's

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Speaker 2: song called Closer to Find that I love, and there's

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Speaker 2: a line in it that says, darkness has a hunger

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Speaker 2: that's insatiable, and lightness has a call that's hard to hear.

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Speaker 2: It's very hard for us to see the light. And

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Speaker 2: you're just saying you go to a happy place. It

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Speaker 2: can't be just that.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think you do have to do it intentionally,

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Speaker 1: and I really do. It's like exercising a muscle. I

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Speaker 1: do daily practices. I actually intentionally make myself happy. So

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Speaker 1: if something happens like I've got to have some radiotherapy

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Speaker 1: this week, I am really actively doing the things that

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Speaker 1: lifts my vibration to a high, happy vibration, because that's

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Speaker 1: where the healing is. If I stay in my sickness,

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to find my wellness. So I really

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Speaker 1: know that, and so it's a choice. So I do

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Speaker 1: different things every day, and you do whatever it is

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Speaker 1: that makes you happy. For me, it's music, it's being

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Speaker 1: around happy people, it's color, it's giving to other people.

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Speaker 1: Things like that keep me happy.

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Speaker 2: The book that you're referring to is called Azura, and

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Speaker 2: you sent me a copy and I started reading it,

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Speaker 2: and it's all beautiful colors and illustrations, and it took

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Speaker 2: me a few pages to realize the story is of

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Speaker 2: a young girl who's got cancer.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right. It is a picture book. It is

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Speaker 1: a children's book, but it's a picture book with a difference.

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Speaker 1: I think, why can't adults have picture books as well?

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Speaker 1: And so it's not your typical children's story that you're

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Speaker 1: just buying and then let them go off to their

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Speaker 1: bedrooms and read by themselves. I think it's something you

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Speaker 1: need to do together with the kids. You don't need

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Speaker 1: to read it all in one go. I think, as

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Speaker 1: you notice, there's lots of words in each page, it's

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Speaker 1: not just a few sentences. And also the illustrations are

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Speaker 1: absolutely beautiful. So it's a high vibe story. I know,

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Speaker 1: what's the story about a little girl with cancer, But

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Speaker 1: it's a story about hope, and it's a story about

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Speaker 1: her finding her in a dragon, in a strength.

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Speaker 2: And if anyone gives us hope, it's you Mail. I

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Speaker 2: just think, whatever I've got going in my life, I

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Speaker 2: just think of you and I go, man, come on. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: as you say, if happiness is a choice, we can

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Speaker 2: all choose it, if we choose to exactly, you choose

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Speaker 2: your own adventure. That's what it's about.

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Speaker 1: Every day, every morning we wake up. We're blessed to

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Speaker 1: have each day, and you choose. How are you going

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Speaker 1: to cope with whatever's going on in your life? You know,

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Speaker 1: are you going to sink below it or you're gonna

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Speaker 1: rise above it? You choose, That's the way, Mel.

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Speaker 2: It's always great to talk to you. Good luck with

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Speaker 2: the radio radiation therapy. The new book Azura is available

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Speaker 2: from book topia dot com dot au today. Meldozeldie, thank

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Speaker 2: you for joining us.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for having me. I love you guys.

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Speaker 2: Lovely to talk to you. Mail you take care.

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Speaker 1: Jonesy and Amanda's