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Speaker 1: Now, we know that the flooding around parts of the

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Speaker 1: But what some of you may not be aware of

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Speaker 1: Timber Creek resident Tristan he's known as Potter Holicumb.

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Speaker 2: Joins me on the line right now, Good morning to

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Speaker 3: How are you? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Really good mate? Now tell me how are you going

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Speaker 3: It's been a long haul and we're going all right,

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Speaker 3: I suppose we're not. We're very frustrated and angry more

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Speaker 3: than anything, but I'm tired. But we're getting there.

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Speaker 1: So talk me through how extensive the flooding has been

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Speaker 2: You know where what you're able to really do? At

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Speaker 1: You can't really move around or do anything, can you?

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Speaker 3: No? Neither is still cut in both directions, Sam West,

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Speaker 3: this is day seventeen. I've been cut off and as

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Speaker 3: far as that goes, we sort of yeah, So you

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Speaker 1: Now, you know, there's very obvious things are very obvious

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Speaker 1: concerns of not being able to get around. But how

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we've we've sort of lost all most of our

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Speaker 3: fences for ninety nine percent of our fences again for

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Speaker 3: the second second time in two years. And our cattle

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Speaker 3: account for all of them at all. Just the if

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Speaker 3: just hoping they're hoping they're packed up somewhere and alive.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, jeez, that's tough going for you guys.

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Speaker 1: I mean you spend your time, you know, making sure

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Speaker 1: And now to wind up in this situation through no

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Speaker 2: It makes it tough.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, most definitely, mostly it's a bit of bill to swallow,

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Speaker 3: again and just not knowing, not knowing, you know, you

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Speaker 3: And you know it's sort of yeah, you don't you

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Speaker 3: There's place so I can't get too. You just you

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Speaker 3: just have no idea horses. Horses are on the highway.

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Speaker 3: We saw some of them on the highway today. But

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Speaker 3: I've just I've got we don't get them back across

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Speaker 2: They Oh wow, I mean, I'll talk.

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Speaker 1: I'll ask him more about, you know, the work that

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Speaker 2: But I just want to ask you, in terms.

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Speaker 3: Pretty ordinary, to be honest, in Ufens, like our local

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Speaker 3: literally necessity. It was most of the trolleys were just nappies, bread, milk,

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Speaker 3: I wasn't shopping for caviar and CABANAA.

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Speaker 1: Put that one bet you weren't, mate, Like, has there

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Speaker 3: But the people in the township had nothing, no help whatsoever.

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Speaker 1: Well, if they're not prepared to help, how can they

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Speaker 3: See, Yeah, there was no no food drop for the

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Speaker 1: And so since you did that social media post, since

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we've had a fair bit of follow up. But

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Speaker 3: I've had a few excuses. I think even or someone

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Speaker 3: there has to be the one declared emergency. Yeah, we

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Speaker 1: Yeah sounds like it sounds like it was almost insulting

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like, but they don't get me wrong. There are

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Speaker 3: I'm not saying everyone has notice, but I'm saying that

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Speaker 1: Mate, it's the second and it's the second time you've

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it happened to us last year and the township

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Speaker 3: maybe it was this year. You're not going to get

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Speaker 3: So we're just like a lot of comments. In fact

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Speaker 3: this year. We've heard from a few different people in

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Speaker 3: be able to get fund and put into them. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well, and you know the thing is, if they're looking

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Speaker 1: you guys too, I mean, potter, what would you like

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Speaker 1: to see the government sort of step up and do?

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Speaker 1: At this point, what do you guys need out there.

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Speaker 3: We need. We need you need money, really, we need funding.

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Speaker 3: We need or just quickly for helicopters. Like I can't access,

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Speaker 3: I can't access all the country. I need helicopters to

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Speaker 3: Money to buy fencing here, gas, all that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I've heard there's a food delivery. There's meant

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Speaker 3: to be food coming by road, but that hasn't turned up.

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Speaker 1: Well, particularly if you're not able to access any you know,

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Speaker 1: like that's the thing if you've then had to hire

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Speaker 3: Daily My wife? Did my wife spoke to him yet? Right? Yep,

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Speaker 3: and a few other members. So I don't know if

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Speaker 3: right and actually speak to them. Well, we might more

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, look, we'll try and get in contact with

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Speaker 1: well and hear how they're going. But can I ask

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Speaker 1: Potter before I let you go, mate, in terms of

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Speaker 2: Does that work then take?

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Speaker 1: When you are in a situation where the creeks have

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Speaker 1: how long does that work then take?

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Speaker 2: It sounds like it's tough, hard work.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, literally, it took us twelve months. We put the

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Speaker 3: That was the last bit of fencing that we had

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Speaker 3: washed down that we put out last year. Many because

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Speaker 3: literally drop, you know, hundred thousand dollars in defencing equipment,

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Speaker 3: and we have jobs that you sort of had. We

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Speaker 1: Yeah, oh mate, I feel for you. I cannot you know,

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Speaker 1: that needs to go in after these waters subside. Please

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Speaker 1: keep in contact with us. We will do our best

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Speaker 1: But as I said, we're going to also be catching

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Speaker 2: Say, get adyr wife for me.

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Speaker 1: Please look after each other, and as I said, please

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Speaker 1: keep us up to date with how things are progressing.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate you having a chat with me today.

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Speaker 3: No worries. Thank you very much for your time.

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Speaker 2: Thanks mate,