WEBVTT - Ask Uncut -My Train Of Thought Is Not Normal

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<v Speaker 1>This episode was recorded on Cameragle Land.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi, guys, and welcome back to another episode of Life

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<v Speaker 2>on Cut. I'm Laura, I'm Brittany, and this is ask

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<v Speaker 2>Kunk Cut where we answer You're deep, You're dark, and

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<v Speaker 2>you're burning questions and I.

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<v Speaker 3>Am so broken. You're so broken. I'm more broken than

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<v Speaker 3>I've ever been. So I'm more broken this week than

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<v Speaker 3>last week.

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<v Speaker 1>There's only a few more days left. Were dancing with

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<v Speaker 1>the Stars.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if I'm allowed to say about but

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<v Speaker 3>you just said it.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't sign an nda.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sitting here in the hot water Fuck, I'm a wattle.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sitting here. I'm sitting on a piece of wattles.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm waddling. I do wattle. Actually, my natural path said

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<v Speaker 3>it would be good for me. So for the last

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<v Speaker 3>couple of months, you guys know, I've been doing Dancing

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<v Speaker 3>with the Stars. But I'm at my tether, Like I'm

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<v Speaker 3>at my wits end. My body is screaming out for her.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like it is sing. So I have to walk

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<v Speaker 3>around everywhere now with the hot water bottle basically tape

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<v Speaker 3>to me. I drive in the car with it on

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<v Speaker 3>my groin and I wish that was for a different reason,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's absolutely not. I strap it to my back

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<v Speaker 3>at every moment I can. Every part of my body

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<v Speaker 3>is like screaming on fire.

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<v Speaker 2>You only have a couple of days. You're gonna make

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<v Speaker 2>it to the end. You're gonna be amazing.

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<v Speaker 3>Tell you what if this, If this comes and I

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<v Speaker 3>make it to the end of Dancing with the Stars.

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<v Speaker 3>If I make it to the end and I'm there

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<v Speaker 3>and you guys don't vote for me, so what are

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<v Speaker 3>you gonna do?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm quitting the podcast, Britty's I'm gonna take back all

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<v Speaker 2>those puppies I promised you and never gave you.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm quitting. I've left that much blood, sweat and tears. Literally,

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<v Speaker 3>there's blood on Craig, my dance partner. Craig leaves with

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<v Speaker 3>blood on his shirt. That's because you use a mental car.

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<v Speaker 3>What do you? Oh? Yeah, true, my groin is on

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<v Speaker 3>his shirt. I will that's true.

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<v Speaker 2>I also just want to like remind you that Dancing

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<v Speaker 2>with the Stars isn't also like a separate thing to

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<v Speaker 2>the podcast, so that you can't quit the podcast because

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<v Speaker 2>people don't vote for.

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<v Speaker 3>You and they're two different entity.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm glad that you've like it's taken over every

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<v Speaker 2>facet of your life.

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<v Speaker 3>Laura, I am blackmailing our life is So we.

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<v Speaker 2>Were just talking about this. I mean, obviously you've come

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<v Speaker 2>here for us to answer your questions. We'll get to that, guys,

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<v Speaker 2>don't worry, it's coming. But we were just talking about this.

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<v Speaker 2>So Britz started doing a new thing which we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to create a compilation.

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<v Speaker 3>For you complaining yet hang on, I'm still complaining.

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<v Speaker 2>This complains so recently. I don't know whether you've noticed it.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's because Kish does an incredible job of editing

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<v Speaker 2>out like every single one of these opens.

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<v Speaker 4>That puts me in a position that makes me uncomfortable

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<v Speaker 4>because I do my absolute best. Sometimes I isolate audio.

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<v Speaker 4>Sometimes I use AI to try and reduce them.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know where this is going, but I don't

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<v Speaker 3>like it.

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<v Speaker 2>So yesterday I get a message from Keisha and she says,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, but we need to have an intervention.

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<v Speaker 3>So so hang on, let me get this straight. We

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<v Speaker 3>have a group chat. You left the group chat to

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<v Speaker 3>talk about.

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<v Speaker 4>She said, I don't know what to do. I'm at

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<v Speaker 4>breaking point. I don't know how to make this. I've

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<v Speaker 4>brought it up. I've shown her examples. I don't know

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<v Speaker 4>how to get.

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<v Speaker 3>Rid of it. The snort has to go. I didn't

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<v Speaker 3>listen to the examples. I saw that. I saw the

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<v Speaker 3>voice came through, and I was like, I'm not changing

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<v Speaker 3>who I am, and I deleted it. We've noticed recently

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<v Speaker 3>they're Brittany's.

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<v Speaker 1>We love your laugh, it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Amazing, but you're you're snorting is something that everybody has

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<v Speaker 2>a person we feel personally victimized by it.

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<v Speaker 3>What I will say is in my defense, yes, my laugh.

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<v Speaker 3>What I will say is in my defense I will

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<v Speaker 3>What I will say is I am aware that my

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<v Speaker 3>laugh has evolved why. I can't be sure how. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know. I don't know where it's come from, but

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<v Speaker 3>I know the snort has entered my life. It seems

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<v Speaker 3>to be on an upwards trajectory. I know one used

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<v Speaker 3>to sneak in every now and then.

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<v Speaker 4>To be honest, they actually used to come from Laura

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<v Speaker 4>More and yours have disappeared.

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<v Speaker 3>You're no longer in the recording. I want everyone that

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<v Speaker 3>me just doing that hurt my really strong what though, like,

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<v Speaker 3>We're gonna let you guys into a real insight. We

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<v Speaker 3>obviously edit the podcast, which try and keep it as

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<v Speaker 3>natural as possible, right, but we edit things. If one

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<v Speaker 3>of us does something like snorts too much, we will

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<v Speaker 3>edit that. What I want to say is what you

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<v Speaker 3>guys aren't aware of. And I hate that this is

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<v Speaker 3>throwing each other on the bus. Welcome to Welcome to

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<v Speaker 3>the Pug. We love each other, but this is the

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<v Speaker 3>slay episode.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, sorry for getting out of the group chat and

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<v Speaker 4>directly contacting Laura, But I'm.

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<v Speaker 3>Sorry for throwing you under the basket. Yeah, when I'm

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<v Speaker 3>throwing you under the bus, Laura for six years. What

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<v Speaker 3>you don't know is our very own Laura Burne snorts.

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<v Speaker 3>I reckon one hundred times an episode because she has

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<v Speaker 3>breathing problems like a little pug. You're like a little

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<v Speaker 3>French bulldog. They can't breathe properly, and we edit it

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<v Speaker 3>out to make you sound better. So now you're coming

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<v Speaker 3>from but you don't even know you do it because

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<v Speaker 3>it's so natural for you.

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<v Speaker 2>I do it in conversation, but I stop, so it's

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<v Speaker 2>an easy edit. Keisha, how often do I snort and record?

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<v Speaker 4>Though it has reduced significant this is what I'm concerned about,

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<v Speaker 4>which this is.

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<v Speaker 3>Like a group meeting.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, what places, And BRIT's trajectory is increasing. Yours is

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<v Speaker 4>decre so much that I hardly even notice it anymore.

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<v Speaker 4>And I used to have a problem with the mouth sounds.

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<v Speaker 4>Everyone knows I'm a bit sensitive to the the snorting

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<v Speaker 4>has taken on a level where like the wavelength of it.

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<v Speaker 4>When I can when I'm coming through the audio and

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<v Speaker 4>I can see it coming up, I almost brace myself

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<v Speaker 4>because I'm like, it's coming.

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<v Speaker 3>The high personally, the high purble, because if you listen

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<v Speaker 3>with headphones in, it's an assault on the years. And

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<v Speaker 3>I love your laugh. I am so supportive of your laugh.

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<v Speaker 4>I am sorry that I've gone behind your back to

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<v Speaker 4>try and rectify this, but the snort has got to go.

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<v Speaker 3>This is it.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe this is the episode that we do insert the

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<v Speaker 2>compilation here just so everyone can hear.

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<v Speaker 1>All of a sudden, just mean she came and.

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<v Speaker 3>Sees me doing you know on the Simpsons, that dog

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<v Speaker 3>that does the squinty eyes when you looks. That's what

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<v Speaker 3>I'm doing. Is I'm Homer going back into the bush.

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<v Speaker 2>Now it is time for vibes and unsubscribed so that

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<v Speaker 2>we can get into.

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<v Speaker 3>We're just pretending that attacks. Well, I've done one unsubscribed,

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<v Speaker 3>my unsubscribers.

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<v Speaker 1>Your snort, Well, let's put.

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<v Speaker 3>It out to the people. Let's put a pole on.

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<v Speaker 3>Actually don't. That'll make it worse. Put on. Let's move on.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to try my best not to snort. I'm upset.

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<v Speaker 3>I said about a lot of things in my life

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<v Speaker 3>right now. We love you, we love every time about you.

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<v Speaker 3>We don't we do, I love most things. We'll put

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<v Speaker 3>me back in the group chat. Then, all right, vibes down, subscribes.

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<v Speaker 3>At least we're so in sync. We've got the same

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<v Speaker 3>vibe this.

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<v Speaker 2>Week we do okay, So I'll just say my own

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<v Speaker 2>subscriber is to snort, and then it feels like we've

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<v Speaker 2>got something different.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, my unsubscribes equally your sort. Go and get surgery.

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<v Speaker 1>I know I do. I've spoken about this before, though.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't go and get surgery now because people will

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<v Speaker 2>think I'm just getting like a rhiner plasty, and they'll

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<v Speaker 2>think I'm doing it for that reason.

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<v Speaker 3>You've got a two in Actually you can do a

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<v Speaker 3>three and one. I have a time's in the laber

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<v Speaker 3>hair transplant new sinus three and one, I reckon, there's

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<v Speaker 3>someone in Turkey that would do that.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, you can get the side of surgery without

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<v Speaker 4>altering the appearance.

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<v Speaker 3>Why would you go Laura would come out looking like

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<v Speaker 3>halle Berry should be like a different person. She'd be like,

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<v Speaker 3>while we're there, I didn't change my skin color. At

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<v Speaker 3>the same time, it just meant you come out like

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<v Speaker 3>looking like a different person.

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<v Speaker 2>You're like, just trim here here, let's fix her here

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<v Speaker 2>and also sign me up for those melotonin injections saying

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<v Speaker 2>if you're gonna go under all right, look, let's get

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<v Speaker 2>serious vibes and unsubscribes. Brittan I do have the same vibe.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's because it's rare these days that I get

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<v Speaker 2>sucked into a TV show or a documentary or anything

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm able to watch every single episode in one sitting.

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<v Speaker 2>But that is how incredibly interesting this doc or is

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<v Speaker 2>that we're about to recommend. It's on Disney Plus, it's

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<v Speaker 2>Devil in the Family. The Fall of Ruby Frankie. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>so many of you will know the influencer Ruby Frankie.

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<v Speaker 2>She had their Channel eight passengers on YouTube, who was

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<v Speaker 2>convicted of child abuse in the US.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and We've also spoken about her few times over

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<v Speaker 3>the last year or two as her case progress was

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<v Speaker 3>spoken about her daughter, Shari, so you may have heard

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<v Speaker 3>us talk about it on the podcast before.

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<v Speaker 2>The reason why I found this so interesting is because

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<v Speaker 2>we knew a lot about the basic facts around the story,

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<v Speaker 2>the facts around the case, the opinions of the children

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<v Speaker 2>who have come out publicly to speak about it, Shari

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<v Speaker 2>and Chad namely. But there was so much in this documentary.

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<v Speaker 2>It's three episodes, I know about fifty minutes each, and

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<v Speaker 2>it is fascinating to me. The father sits down and

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<v Speaker 2>he does quite a lengthy interview around his involvement, around.

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<v Speaker 1>How he was complicit, what he did and didn't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it really raises so many questions around the

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<v Speaker 2>legalities and responsibilities that need to be put into place

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<v Speaker 2>to better safeguard children from family vlogging situations.

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<v Speaker 3>I had really mixed feelings about the father's version. I

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<v Speaker 3>completely believe him that he knew nothing about it, but

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<v Speaker 3>that doesn't mean I think it's okay, because I think

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<v Speaker 3>what he did was so wrong, and I understand that

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<v Speaker 3>he was and you'll have to formulate your own opinion.

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<v Speaker 3>I understand that he was brainwashed to an extent, but

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<v Speaker 3>he still made some pretty interesting decisions to abandon his family.

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<v Speaker 3>His reasoning for it to him was justified at the time,

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<v Speaker 3>but for me it wasn't enough. I think he really

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<v Speaker 3>let his family down.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's so many facets. So Kevin Frankie is the husband.

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<v Speaker 2>Jodie Hildebrandt was Ruby's business partner. She's also serving up

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<v Speaker 2>to thirty years imprisonment for child abuse. Because they were

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<v Speaker 2>very entwined, and it also centers around the Later Day

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<v Speaker 2>Saints and the Mormon community of which they are all

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<v Speaker 2>members of. I found it truly, truly fascinating, and I

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<v Speaker 2>also was enraged watching Kevin Frankie because I felt as

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<v Speaker 2>a father he was able to completely absolve himself with

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<v Speaker 2>the responsibilities. But to me, he was the weakest version

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<v Speaker 2>of a man, the weakest version of a father figure,

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<v Speaker 2>of someone who should have been there to take care

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<v Speaker 2>of their family and to protect them.

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<v Speaker 1>He cared so much.

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<v Speaker 2>About his faith but also about this family unit at

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<v Speaker 2>the cost of the absolute expense of their children.

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<v Speaker 3>Would you go as far as saying that you think

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<v Speaker 3>he enabled the abuse one hundred percent? And also, what

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<v Speaker 3>I don't like is.

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<v Speaker 2>He's come out and spoken about how quite confronting some

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<v Speaker 2>of the behind the scenes footage is because you've got

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<v Speaker 2>to remember, like Ruby Frankie had filmed thousands and thousands

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<v Speaker 2>of hours of herself and her children, and so this

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<v Speaker 2>is all unseen footage that didn't make it, so the

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<v Speaker 2>takes that didn't make it to her YouTube channel, and

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<v Speaker 2>there's moments where she grabbed her child by the mouth

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<v Speaker 2>to shut her child up. There's moments where she's screaming

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<v Speaker 2>at the kids from the other room. And I read

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<v Speaker 2>a statement from Kevin Frankie and he said, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>this is the reality of vlogging out of people who

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<v Speaker 2>share their children online. And I was like, you know

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<v Speaker 2>what it might be for some families, but they're abusive families.

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<v Speaker 2>And the fact that you think that this is so

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<v Speaker 2>normal just shows that this was systemic throughout the whole

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<v Speaker 2>time of your relationship, and it was only when you

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<v Speaker 2>removed yourself from the household that the abuse escalated.

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<v Speaker 3>But she was always abusive.

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<v Speaker 4>That's the thing that I've been very interested in with

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<v Speaker 4>seeing this play out across media now now that she's

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<v Speaker 4>been convicted and stuff, I feel like people are equating

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<v Speaker 4>vlogging with child abuse, and it's so important to distinguish

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<v Speaker 4>the difference because there are going to be versions of

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<v Speaker 4>both of those things.

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<v Speaker 3>That do coexist.

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<v Speaker 4>But a lot of the time those things are not

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<v Speaker 4>going to totalists. You know, most child abuses don't vlog it.

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<v Speaker 4>They don't have the evidence, they don't have it on film.

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<v Speaker 4>And most vlogging families are.

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<v Speaker 3>Not abusing their children. They might be exploiting them in

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<v Speaker 3>some way, but there is a difference. You know. It

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<v Speaker 3>does highlight so many different interesting aspects this documentary that

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<v Speaker 3>we've seen before, but also one of the big things

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<v Speaker 3>for me was just seeing the level of coercive control

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<v Speaker 3>that Ruby had towards her husband, Like it was quite

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<v Speaker 3>the role reversal in that sense to what we're used to.

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<v Speaker 3>Was he quite a weak and pathetic man, and I

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<v Speaker 3>hate saying that. That is how he comes across the

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<v Speaker 3>whole show. He even says it himself at the end

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<v Speaker 3>of the final questions, you know, or like, she's in

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<v Speaker 3>prison for thirty years for child abuse, she did these

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<v Speaker 3>horrific things to your son, She brainwashed you, she wouldn't

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<v Speaker 3>let you see your kids free, all of these things.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you love her? And he's like, yeah, I do, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Always will, I'll always love her.

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<v Speaker 3>That's his final statement, and I was just like, eh, yeah, absolutely,

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<v Speaker 3>look like I said.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, there is so no matter how much you

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<v Speaker 2>know about this story fascinating, there is so much more

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<v Speaker 2>in this STOCKO definitely give it a watch. It's on

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<v Speaker 2>Disney Plas. I highly recommend it. Honestly could not stop watching.

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<v Speaker 4>My vibe for the week is seemingly much more what's

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<v Speaker 4>the word I'm after? Flippant?

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<v Speaker 3>After that deep.

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<v Speaker 1>Unpacked, we can the light and shade.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't worry. It's a mattress.

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<v Speaker 4>So the reason I've been thinking that I should vibe

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<v Speaker 4>this on the podcast is because often in our Facebook group,

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<v Speaker 4>so the Life on Cut discussion.

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<v Speaker 3>Group, and I'm talking like probably.

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<v Speaker 4>Three to four times a week minimum, people are putting

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<v Speaker 4>questions in there, being like, hey, who has this mattress?

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<v Speaker 3>Do you recommend it?

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<v Speaker 4>Blah blah blah, And often it's a question between like

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<v Speaker 4>this one versus this one. And I obviously can't compare

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<v Speaker 4>it because I haven't had multiple but I purchased the

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<v Speaker 4>Koala Lux mattress on the boxing day sales, so I

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<v Speaker 4>did get at thirty percent off, which was a nice

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<v Speaker 4>little little treat for myself. And I am so deeply

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<v Speaker 4>obsessed with it that my brother and sister in law

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<v Speaker 4>spent one night on this mattress when they came to

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<v Speaker 4>stay in our house.

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<v Speaker 3>And they and they've moved in. They have now ordered

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<v Speaker 3>their own, like or that's all it took for them.

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<v Speaker 2>So I mean that if there's ever been a review,

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<v Speaker 2>that's it right there.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, I really really love this mattress. I realized

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<v Speaker 4>that my mattress for someone who's as obsessed with sleep

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<v Speaker 4>is what I am. My mattress was terrible before this.

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<v Speaker 4>So this is their top of the range one, so

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<v Speaker 4>it's the most expensive one. The Queen retails for two

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<v Speaker 4>thy three hundred and ninety. They do have sales quite regularly,

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<v Speaker 4>so you maybe get on sale wait for one of those.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's amazing. It comes in a box. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>not really a mattress a box mattress person, until.

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<v Speaker 3>Now I am completely converted. I have had their mattress.

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<v Speaker 3>I bought it probably three years ago, and I won't

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<v Speaker 3>go back. I really really love it. And everybody always

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<v Speaker 3>talks about how comfy my bed is too, because I

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<v Speaker 3>have people in multiple times a week. You know that's

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<v Speaker 3>a joke. She was left in your bed a little

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<v Speaker 3>All three people that have ever slept in my pitness.

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<v Speaker 4>In terms of like softness, that is the other question

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<v Speaker 4>that people tend to ask in Facebook group.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's probably.

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<v Speaker 4>Medium to soft range of memory foam styles. So if

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<v Speaker 4>you like a firm one, I'm sure that they've got

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<v Speaker 4>versions that you can kind of make it more firm.

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<v Speaker 4>But I think it's yeah, it's really good. The Koala

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<v Speaker 4>Lux mattress is my vibe for the week. I've been

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<v Speaker 4>sleeping like a queen.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, Well, let's get into the questions.

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<v Speaker 2>Question number one My question is how do you find

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<v Speaker 2>your identity after becoming a mum. My youngest is twelve

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<v Speaker 2>weeks old and my oldest is only two right now,

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<v Speaker 2>and my life is just consumed with being a mum.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel a bit lost, and I find myself missing

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<v Speaker 2>who I was before. I avoid mirrors when I can,

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<v Speaker 2>because I don't recognize the person looking back at me.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to be the best role model for my girls,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm worried if I can't find myself again, I

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<v Speaker 2>won't be able to do this for them. During the

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<v Speaker 2>labor of my second child. This is viewbritt During the

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<v Speaker 2>labor of my second child, I was listening to some

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<v Speaker 2>random episodes of the podcast to take my mind off.

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<v Speaker 1>The con actions.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't realize I still had my headphones on when

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<v Speaker 2>I started to push and my daughter was born to

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<v Speaker 2>the sound of Britney's laugh. Oh my god, that's your

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<v Speaker 2>problem right there. That's where it's all stemmed from.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's where it started. On what laugh that laugh?

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<v Speaker 3>Will snort laugh?

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<v Speaker 2>Probably that laugh because we've met at the snort laugh

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<v Speaker 2>out as we've established.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you think did that means if a baby's actually

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<v Speaker 3>do you know what? Fuck it? That's good laugh? Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>That kids, it's like getting shut on by a bird like.

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<v Speaker 3>A cooko ra. Yeah. We could liken it to that.

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<v Speaker 3>That's gonna be good luck, I think for your child. Congratulations.

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<v Speaker 3>That's really tough, because this one's definitely probably more for you. Laura.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not a mum and I've never been through it,

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<v Speaker 3>and I know there's so many different aspects of postpartum

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<v Speaker 3>depression and trying to find who you are again and

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<v Speaker 3>your life completely changes. I've seen that through so many people.

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<v Speaker 3>I've seen that through Laura my family. You know, I've

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<v Speaker 3>got so many nieces and if you have so many friends,

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<v Speaker 3>but I personally haven't experienced it.

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<v Speaker 2>Firstly, I think it's really important to acknowledge that so

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<v Speaker 2>many mums feel like this, Like there are so many

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<v Speaker 2>women who go through motherhood and you have two under two,

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<v Speaker 2>you have a three month old baby, you are in

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<v Speaker 2>the trenches. I mean, they also call it the fourth

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<v Speaker 2>trimester when you have a when you have a newborn

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<v Speaker 2>baby and you go through those first three months. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think we talk about the fourth trimester enough because

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<v Speaker 2>there's almost this expectation that once the baby's out, you're

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<v Speaker 2>going to be able to get back to the way

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<v Speaker 2>that you were, And I don't know if you ever

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<v Speaker 2>really get back to the way that you were. You're

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<v Speaker 2>a new version of yourself. But that new version doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>have to be a worse version by any means.

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<v Speaker 3>It's evolution, it is.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's not just it's not just the big changes,

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<v Speaker 2>and sometimes like they're the things that we talk about,

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<v Speaker 2>like you know that sleep is hard, that managing your

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<v Speaker 2>time is hard, that your touch dad and you always have,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, a baby, you're a person to tend to

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<v Speaker 2>the responsibilities are high, but it's also the small things

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<v Speaker 2>as well. It's the getting up in the morning and

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<v Speaker 2>not feeling like any of your clothes are right on

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<v Speaker 2>you because you can't wear the clothes that you used

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<v Speaker 2>to wear before you're pregnant, and you don't necessarily want

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<v Speaker 2>to wear your maternity clothes because you're not pregnant anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>It is a shift that takes over every part of

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<v Speaker 2>your life.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and I remember us having that conversation, Laura. I

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<v Speaker 3>remember back like first pregnancy, Marley, where your whole life changed,

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<v Speaker 3>And I remember sitting down and you saying, this sounds silly,

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<v Speaker 3>but I don't know who I am and what to

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<v Speaker 3>wear now. I don't know what fits me. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know what looks right. Even though my old coats fit me,

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<v Speaker 3>they don't feel right. Yeah, you just didn't know. And

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<v Speaker 3>it wasn't an identity crisis as such, but I guess

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<v Speaker 3>it was a mini one because you are trying to

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<v Speaker 3>figure out this next chapter that you haven't ever put

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<v Speaker 3>a foot in before. Like it's such a new experience

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<v Speaker 3>for everyone.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and when you've had two under two, like, you've

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<v Speaker 2>probably been off work for quite some time and so like,

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<v Speaker 2>the things that were normal from your day to day

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<v Speaker 2>are just not normal anymore. I still look back on

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<v Speaker 2>photos of me after Maley and Laula were born, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, what am I wearing?

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<v Speaker 3>Like? But it was it was the only thing that

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<v Speaker 3>kind of felt like it fit.

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<v Speaker 2>Me, fit me right then. But I don't know, I

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<v Speaker 2>just I look back on those and I don't recognize

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<v Speaker 2>I mean not everything about that period was bad. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't want anyone to think of this as like a

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<v Speaker 2>motherhood slamming conversation.

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<v Speaker 3>And there were way worse things than what Laura had

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<v Speaker 3>to wear. But yeah, when I.

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<v Speaker 2>Look at that and I'm like, what the fuck was

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<v Speaker 2>going on? Like that was okay, that was an interesting

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<v Speaker 2>time in the evolution of Laura Burns.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, it was fashion choices.

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<v Speaker 2>But I and the reason why I'm focusing on the clothes,

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<v Speaker 2>and I know that clothes makes up the smallest part

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<v Speaker 2>of it, but it's like the reason why I'm saying

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<v Speaker 2>that is because it really does affect everything from the

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<v Speaker 2>top down. I would say, right now, your three months postpartum,

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<v Speaker 2>give yourself so much grace.

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<v Speaker 1>Like you do.

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<v Speaker 2>You're in the trenches and you do crawl out of

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<v Speaker 2>the trenches like you do. One day you wake up

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<v Speaker 2>and you'll be like, oh my god, I had time

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<v Speaker 2>to like wipe my ass without my child screaming at

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<v Speaker 2>me today, And then I was able to go for

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<v Speaker 2>a walk and I went to pilates. And I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's when you're able to start doing things for yourself

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<v Speaker 2>and also having some moments of time that are on

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<v Speaker 2>your own, you start to gain a little bit of

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<v Speaker 2>sense of yourself again.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's also really important.

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<v Speaker 2>That you have support in order for that to happen,

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<v Speaker 2>because what can sometimes happen is that even though you

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<v Speaker 2>might go and have your shower or go and do

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<v Speaker 2>the things that you feel like you're doing for yourself,

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<v Speaker 2>you might be on high alert still for when your

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<v Speaker 2>baby's crying or for if there's a problem. Whereas like

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<v Speaker 2>what I found worked really well for me is like

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<v Speaker 2>in the mornings, Matt wants he'd had his shower and

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<v Speaker 2>he was already I would give him Lola Andmali, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'd be like, I'm having my shower, Do not interrupt me.

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<v Speaker 1>Do he come to me?

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<v Speaker 3>Do not? I don't, I do not solve the problems

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<v Speaker 3>for an hour, Like that's my shower for an hour.

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<v Speaker 2>There's water, no like shower, get ready, Like have an

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<v Speaker 2>hour to yourself, like if your baby's fed, Like you

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<v Speaker 2>can take that time. And it might not be feasible

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<v Speaker 2>in the morning because maybe your partner's got to go

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<v Speaker 2>to work, whatever that looks like. But there absolutely has

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<v Speaker 2>to be time carved out in the day where you

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<v Speaker 2>are able to have solo time so that you can

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<v Speaker 2>sit and have a coffee, or you can call a

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<v Speaker 2>girlfriend or do whatever it is that you want to do.

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<v Speaker 3>That's undistracted time. Oh, she literally says here at the end,

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<v Speaker 3>thank you for bringing so much joy and laughter to

0:19:54.000 --> 0:19:56.320
<v Speaker 3>this world. I've only had one night out since becoming

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<v Speaker 3>a mum, and that was to your live show in Melbourne.

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<v Speaker 2>See that's two years. No wonder, you don't have a

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<v Speaker 2>sense of who the hell you are. You're not anyone

0:20:04.760 --> 0:20:06.800
<v Speaker 2>right now except a mom, except a mum, and like

0:20:06.920 --> 0:20:09.320
<v Speaker 2>it's I mean, I'm so glad that you spent that

0:20:09.440 --> 0:20:11.640
<v Speaker 2>night coming to hang out with us. But like, when

0:20:11.640 --> 0:20:14.600
<v Speaker 2>you have two kids under two, I understand that there

0:20:14.680 --> 0:20:18.040
<v Speaker 2>is a big priority, but you are also still a priority,

0:20:18.400 --> 0:20:21.080
<v Speaker 2>and your partner is also still a priority. You have

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<v Speaker 2>to be able to give each other time to have

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<v Speaker 2>moments in life which are about you as a person

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<v Speaker 2>separate to being a parent. And maybe that means getting

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<v Speaker 2>a babysitter. If that's not able because it's too expensive,

0:20:32.680 --> 0:20:34.720
<v Speaker 2>maybe a friend can come and help. Or maybe it

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<v Speaker 2>just means your partner steps up to the plate takes

0:20:37.119 --> 0:20:38.399
<v Speaker 2>care of the kids so that you can go out

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<v Speaker 2>with your girlfriends for dinner once a month. You know,

0:20:40.880 --> 0:20:41.960
<v Speaker 2>that's not a big expectation.

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<v Speaker 3>You've got to cut yourself some slack. And realistically you're saying,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I feel like I'm just a mum right now,

0:20:47.800 --> 0:20:50.080
<v Speaker 3>but that's because you also are. You have a three

0:20:50.080 --> 0:20:52.040
<v Speaker 3>month old. At the end of the day, you are

0:20:52.160 --> 0:20:56.440
<v Speaker 3>keeping a small, helpless being alive, like that is your

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<v Speaker 3>job right now as well. So you are going to

0:20:58.760 --> 0:21:00.879
<v Speaker 3>feel like that is all in COmON because it is

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<v Speaker 3>all encompassing. But you do need to be able to

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<v Speaker 3>put that little bit of balance in. I don't know

0:21:05.480 --> 0:21:07.280
<v Speaker 3>if you can do it once a week, once a month,

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<v Speaker 3>but definitely more than one night in two years. That's

0:21:10.359 --> 0:21:12.960
<v Speaker 3>something that you need to prioritize. And I understand it's

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<v Speaker 3>not for everyone to be able to go out once

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<v Speaker 3>a week, in your household, with your children, with your partner,

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<v Speaker 3>whatever it is. But there's got to be something else

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<v Speaker 3>you carve out at some stage.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it doesn't have to be like it doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>have to be a night out. That's not what we're suggesting.

0:21:25.440 --> 0:21:28.960
<v Speaker 2>Maybe it could be pilates. It could be going for

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<v Speaker 2>a swim like whatever that looks like for you. Maybe

0:21:31.840 --> 0:21:33.600
<v Speaker 2>you go and you do a pilates class. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know why I keep saying polarates, but whatever, it could

0:21:35.359 --> 0:21:37.119
<v Speaker 2>be that with a girlfriend, you know, and that's the

0:21:37.160 --> 0:21:39.240
<v Speaker 2>person that you hang out with. But there has to

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<v Speaker 2>be something else in your life that is beyond just

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<v Speaker 2>being a mum for you to feel like you have

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<v Speaker 2>a sense of identity, because it's very fulfilling. We love

0:21:47.400 --> 0:21:50.840
<v Speaker 2>being mum's kids are amazing all of that stuff, but

0:21:50.960 --> 0:21:53.000
<v Speaker 2>it is not the only thing that you will put

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<v Speaker 2>on this earth to do after birthing children.

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<v Speaker 4>It's just not.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think, give yourself some grace and have some

0:21:59.600 --> 0:22:02.879
<v Speaker 2>big compass with your partner around how you're feeling so

0:22:02.960 --> 0:22:05.359
<v Speaker 2>that they can better support you and they can better

0:22:05.440 --> 0:22:08.359
<v Speaker 2>carry the load, so that you can actually prioritize yourself

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit.

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<v Speaker 3>All right question number two. My ex and I broke

0:22:11.119 --> 0:22:13.800
<v Speaker 3>up in October. Recently we've been reconnecting for a bit

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<v Speaker 3>of company in casual fun. Last weekend, I popped over

0:22:17.000 --> 0:22:21.600
<v Speaker 3>to his place for just like a super chill lunch hangout, which, of.

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<v Speaker 1>Course I don't know why that was funny.

0:22:23.480 --> 0:22:25.440
<v Speaker 3>I know, because like, you know, you're gonna fuck. It's

0:22:25.480 --> 0:22:28.360
<v Speaker 3>just a super chill light hangout. Is your exit lunchtime.

0:22:28.400 --> 0:22:30.199
<v Speaker 3>You're having a lunch break. You're not going over to

0:22:30.240 --> 0:22:32.399
<v Speaker 3>have a ham sandwich. But maybe they did, and then

0:22:32.400 --> 0:22:35.280
<v Speaker 3>they fuck for sure? Well they did. That's the end

0:22:35.440 --> 0:22:40.200
<v Speaker 3>spoil on, okay, which of course eventually led to some

0:22:40.240 --> 0:22:43.120
<v Speaker 3>steamy playtime. It was one of those really hot days,

0:22:43.200 --> 0:22:46.200
<v Speaker 3>so we decided to have a shower session. Things got

0:22:46.240 --> 0:22:48.600
<v Speaker 3>hot and steamy, and as he started touching me in

0:22:48.640 --> 0:22:51.080
<v Speaker 3>all the right places with his hand, things started to

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<v Speaker 3>heat up and I said, oh, fuck me. I don't

0:22:54.200 --> 0:22:56.160
<v Speaker 3>know why that was imperative to the conversation and why

0:22:56.160 --> 0:22:57.439
<v Speaker 3>I had to say it, like I was there. I

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<v Speaker 3>like it though, okay, he replied, the cautious babe. When

0:23:03.000 --> 0:23:05.119
<v Speaker 3>I turned back, I was hit with a shock that

0:23:05.160 --> 0:23:08.120
<v Speaker 3>I'll never forget. His finger was covered in a thick

0:23:08.200 --> 0:23:12.720
<v Speaker 3>smear of diarrhea. Oh it was it was my first

0:23:12.760 --> 0:23:15.720
<v Speaker 3>time experiencing such an unsexy disaster.

0:23:15.960 --> 0:23:17.120
<v Speaker 1>Then, God, you're in the shower.

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<v Speaker 3>Needless to say, I was mortified. We quickly washed it off,

0:23:20.840 --> 0:23:24.200
<v Speaker 3>agreeing that we just can't come back from this one. Ah,

0:23:24.320 --> 0:23:27.040
<v Speaker 3>that's so brutal. You just shit yourself. And he says,

0:23:27.080 --> 0:23:29.720
<v Speaker 3>we can't come back from this. Now it's become a

0:23:29.720 --> 0:23:31.440
<v Speaker 3>bit of a core memory and I can't shake it.

0:23:31.480 --> 0:23:34.919
<v Speaker 3>Here is my diarrhea, I mean, my dilemma. Should I

0:23:35.040 --> 0:23:37.800
<v Speaker 3>put the brakes on our casual escapades or mite a

0:23:37.920 --> 0:23:41.040
<v Speaker 3>second round with a strategic bathroom break this time help

0:23:41.119 --> 0:23:44.119
<v Speaker 3>us with a clean slate. I am so confused what

0:23:44.119 --> 0:23:46.560
<v Speaker 3>this question is? Wait? Can she live again?

0:23:46.800 --> 0:23:49.000
<v Speaker 4>I would just like to point out that I did

0:23:49.040 --> 0:23:50.840
<v Speaker 4>not put this question after unhit.

0:23:51.040 --> 0:23:54.680
<v Speaker 3>Brittany chose solely to put this one in. It was

0:23:54.720 --> 0:23:55.639
<v Speaker 3>a little too hectic.

0:23:55.680 --> 0:23:58.360
<v Speaker 2>Wait, you dated someone for it. It broke a prolong

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<v Speaker 2>period of time.

0:23:59.040 --> 0:23:59.480
<v Speaker 3>It broke up.

0:23:59.480 --> 0:24:02.840
<v Speaker 2>They broke up, you know, hangs and bangs accidentally shut

0:24:02.920 --> 0:24:03.679
<v Speaker 2>on him, and now.

0:24:03.560 --> 0:24:04.919
<v Speaker 3>She wants to know if she needs to leave it.

0:24:05.040 --> 0:24:06.440
<v Speaker 3>He put his finger in there.

0:24:07.080 --> 0:24:08.320
<v Speaker 1>Oh, he's stuck his finger in your arm.

0:24:08.400 --> 0:24:10.800
<v Speaker 3>No, we don't know that his hands were down there.

0:24:10.960 --> 0:24:13.040
<v Speaker 3>She she just says, my hands are down there, and

0:24:13.080 --> 0:24:15.080
<v Speaker 3>then she got diarrhea.

0:24:15.240 --> 0:24:17.360
<v Speaker 2>I think he must have put his fingers in her backside,

0:24:17.359 --> 0:24:19.240
<v Speaker 2>because I don't think that someone just unless you've had

0:24:19.600 --> 0:24:21.520
<v Speaker 2>something going on with you.

0:24:21.520 --> 0:24:23.399
<v Speaker 3>You got to check that out if you just accidentally,

0:24:23.880 --> 0:24:26.040
<v Speaker 3>because if he's put no, because if he's put his

0:24:26.040 --> 0:24:28.359
<v Speaker 3>finger up there and it's coming out with Pooh, that's

0:24:28.359 --> 0:24:30.479
<v Speaker 3>something you have to accept could happen if you are

0:24:30.520 --> 0:24:33.040
<v Speaker 3>not prepared for it. That's a home. That's where it belongs.

0:24:33.160 --> 0:24:35.399
<v Speaker 3>That's my point. That belongs there more than a finger do.

0:24:35.720 --> 0:24:37.680
<v Speaker 3>That's why I think she'said exactly. That's why I think

0:24:37.680 --> 0:24:40.239
<v Speaker 3>it's been an accident, because that's an expectation. If you're

0:24:40.280 --> 0:24:42.280
<v Speaker 3>going to go willy nilly, no pun intended, if you're

0:24:42.280 --> 0:24:43.680
<v Speaker 3>gonna go willy nilly and put a finger off the

0:24:43.720 --> 0:24:46.440
<v Speaker 3>butthole without it being prepped or talked about, then you've

0:24:46.440 --> 0:24:48.600
<v Speaker 3>got to expect something to be on there. The Pooh

0:24:48.720 --> 0:24:49.600
<v Speaker 3>lives in the but hole.

0:24:49.680 --> 0:24:52.200
<v Speaker 2>I think it's fine. I think you can just laugh

0:24:52.280 --> 0:24:54.440
<v Speaker 2>it off and be like that was awkward. You don't

0:24:54.480 --> 0:24:55.880
<v Speaker 2>even have to you don't even have to talk about

0:24:55.920 --> 0:24:57.560
<v Speaker 2>it again. But him saying like, we can't come back

0:24:57.560 --> 0:24:58.360
<v Speaker 2>from this, because.

0:24:58.119 --> 0:24:58.880
<v Speaker 3>They both said that.

0:24:59.720 --> 0:25:01.320
<v Speaker 2>I think you can come back from it. It's your

0:25:01.359 --> 0:25:03.920
<v Speaker 2>ex boyfriend, it's fine. If it was just a hangs

0:25:03.920 --> 0:25:05.639
<v Speaker 2>and bangs guy that you did not care about, I

0:25:05.640 --> 0:25:06.840
<v Speaker 2>would not come back from it.

0:25:07.000 --> 0:25:08.760
<v Speaker 3>I think you can come back. But I absolutely think

0:25:08.800 --> 0:25:09.639
<v Speaker 3>you can come back from it.

0:25:09.720 --> 0:25:11.680
<v Speaker 2>I think it's not whatever you were in the shower,

0:25:11.760 --> 0:25:13.640
<v Speaker 2>you were right there near the soap washhand.

0:25:14.160 --> 0:25:16.119
<v Speaker 3>No, if it's a one night you just met the guy,

0:25:16.160 --> 0:25:18.199
<v Speaker 3>you shit on him, I wouldn't have gone back. I

0:25:18.240 --> 0:25:19.960
<v Speaker 3>think you'd leave that one if it was if you're

0:25:19.960 --> 0:25:21.400
<v Speaker 3>on tinder block delete Yeah.

0:25:21.440 --> 0:25:23.200
<v Speaker 2>But like this match, this is a guy that you've

0:25:23.280 --> 0:25:25.359
<v Speaker 2>dated for a considerable amount of time by the sounds

0:25:25.359 --> 0:25:27.520
<v Speaker 2>of things, and now you're like quite happily having hangs

0:25:27.520 --> 0:25:29.760
<v Speaker 2>and bangs and you're in the shower, and you know what,

0:25:29.800 --> 0:25:31.680
<v Speaker 2>if he can't take you at your worst, he doesn't

0:25:31.680 --> 0:25:32.600
<v Speaker 2>deserve you at your best.

0:25:32.880 --> 0:25:36.639
<v Speaker 3>It depends. I just it depends. I just had so

0:25:36.760 --> 0:25:39.560
<v Speaker 3>many mental images going through what this situation could look

0:25:39.560 --> 0:25:41.560
<v Speaker 3>back in the shower, Like imagine the diary just pouring

0:25:41.600 --> 0:25:43.080
<v Speaker 3>out or down the shower. But I don't think it

0:25:43.119 --> 0:25:46.040
<v Speaker 3>was that. I take it there, Brittany, because that's where

0:25:46.040 --> 0:25:48.159
<v Speaker 3>we are. I'm a visual person, so I needed to

0:25:48.160 --> 0:25:52.760
<v Speaker 3>play this scene out. I don't like the fact that

0:25:52.800 --> 0:25:54.960
<v Speaker 3>I think this is so funny. I know, I don't

0:25:55.040 --> 0:25:56.879
<v Speaker 3>like the fact I just picture him looking like this,

0:25:57.040 --> 0:25:58.920
<v Speaker 3>holding his finger up, being like, we can't come back

0:25:58.920 --> 0:26:01.640
<v Speaker 3>from this, And I think that's cooked. You can come

0:26:01.680 --> 0:26:03.359
<v Speaker 3>back from it. It's a bit of poop. Tell him

0:26:03.400 --> 0:26:05.400
<v Speaker 3>to man up. Yeah, he wants to have sex with you.

0:26:06.040 --> 0:26:08.119
<v Speaker 3>A little accident in the shower is fine.

0:26:08.200 --> 0:26:11.199
<v Speaker 2>But if you did just totally accidentally shot yourself, like

0:26:11.280 --> 0:26:13.199
<v Speaker 2>and you had no idea that you did it, I

0:26:13.240 --> 0:26:15.560
<v Speaker 2>really think you should probably get that checked out because

0:26:15.560 --> 0:26:19.480
<v Speaker 2>that doesn't sound normal, Like that's not like but you

0:26:19.560 --> 0:26:22.480
<v Speaker 2>also know you no one like but you know if

0:26:22.480 --> 0:26:26.800
<v Speaker 2>you've you know, like, no one okay, man, but you

0:26:26.840 --> 0:26:29.280
<v Speaker 2>know you do a shot, you know, like you've at

0:26:29.320 --> 0:26:32.280
<v Speaker 2>some point discover you don't have someone be like, hold on,

0:26:32.359 --> 0:26:35.920
<v Speaker 2>look at what's here unless you have like a lack

0:26:35.960 --> 0:26:38.040
<v Speaker 2>of sense or feeling and that's something that you know

0:26:38.200 --> 0:26:39.800
<v Speaker 2>you experience or deal with.

0:26:40.000 --> 0:26:41.080
<v Speaker 3>I don't think we have to tell she's got a

0:26:41.119 --> 0:26:45.000
<v Speaker 3>health problem. Some people do just poop. Some people have this, No,

0:26:45.119 --> 0:26:47.320
<v Speaker 3>I'm being serious, some people do have loose bowels, and

0:26:47.359 --> 0:26:49.680
<v Speaker 3>if you're in the shower and it slipped out, you're

0:26:49.680 --> 0:26:51.719
<v Speaker 3>not going to feel it as much, right because people

0:26:51.760 --> 0:26:53.879
<v Speaker 3>when they shot and I'm not saying people I have

0:26:54.000 --> 0:26:56.560
<v Speaker 3>not shouted on record, but well please you don't.

0:26:56.560 --> 0:26:58.560
<v Speaker 1>You also don't need that caveat everyone's shouted.

0:26:59.200 --> 0:27:02.040
<v Speaker 3>No, they haven't. That is such a blanket statement. Everyone

0:27:02.080 --> 0:27:04.760
<v Speaker 3>has not shot it. But my point is people do.

0:27:05.119 --> 0:27:06.920
<v Speaker 3>The reason you know you've done it is because usually

0:27:06.920 --> 0:27:08.480
<v Speaker 3>you have pants on and you feel it. But if

0:27:08.480 --> 0:27:11.000
<v Speaker 3>she has accidentally done that in the shower, she's not

0:27:11.040 --> 0:27:13.120
<v Speaker 3>going to have known because there's water and it's loose

0:27:13.160 --> 0:27:15.960
<v Speaker 3>and it's coming out. So I just think, at the

0:27:16.040 --> 0:27:17.960
<v Speaker 3>end of the day, hang on, just stop this. Why

0:27:18.040 --> 0:27:20.800
<v Speaker 3>fucking your ex anyway, you've shot on him, he's your ex.

0:27:20.880 --> 0:27:22.879
<v Speaker 3>Let's move on. I don't think you actually need to

0:27:22.920 --> 0:27:25.960
<v Speaker 3>go back there. Technically you can. It shouldn't be an issue.

0:27:26.040 --> 0:27:27.600
<v Speaker 3>But I'm just going to take this as a sign

0:27:27.640 --> 0:27:30.400
<v Speaker 3>from the universe. He's an ex's in the past. Let's

0:27:30.440 --> 0:27:32.320
<v Speaker 3>move forward and hopefully not shit on anywhere even in

0:27:32.359 --> 0:27:34.520
<v Speaker 3>the universe. Is like, this is shit, stop taking it.

0:27:34.680 --> 0:27:36.439
<v Speaker 3>The universe is like, what do I need to do

0:27:36.560 --> 0:27:38.720
<v Speaker 3>to stop this from happening? I know you can shit

0:27:38.800 --> 0:27:41.200
<v Speaker 3>on him, like I think, let's move on.

0:27:41.359 --> 0:27:42.080
<v Speaker 1>Interesting question.

0:27:42.880 --> 0:27:44.800
<v Speaker 2>I would just like to end it with I do

0:27:44.880 --> 0:27:46.840
<v Speaker 2>think you can come back from this. I don't think

0:27:46.840 --> 0:27:50.120
<v Speaker 2>that it's a big deal. Everybody goes to the toilet.

0:27:50.440 --> 0:27:52.440
<v Speaker 2>If he's that weird out by it and wigged out

0:27:52.440 --> 0:27:54.120
<v Speaker 2>by it, then that says a lot more about him.

0:27:54.320 --> 0:27:57.440
<v Speaker 3>It's but also it is easy to say that if

0:27:57.520 --> 0:27:59.639
<v Speaker 3>I was getting hot and steamy and I actually pooed

0:27:59.640 --> 0:28:02.320
<v Speaker 3>on someone's hand, I would also be mortified, but I

0:28:02.359 --> 0:28:04.359
<v Speaker 3>would I would laugh it off. I would just be

0:28:04.440 --> 0:28:07.320
<v Speaker 3>like wow, like that's gonna go down in history. Crazy,

0:28:08.280 --> 0:28:10.679
<v Speaker 3>so crazy, Oh my god, could you believe that that

0:28:10.800 --> 0:28:14.879
<v Speaker 3>just happened? Okay, question number three? Please, let's move on.

0:28:16.200 --> 0:28:19.440
<v Speaker 3>Question number three. I am a female, married and deem

0:28:19.480 --> 0:28:22.239
<v Speaker 3>in my late twenties. I've always enjoyed sex, but as

0:28:22.240 --> 0:28:25.360
<v Speaker 3>I've gotten older, my sex drive has declined. This has

0:28:25.359 --> 0:28:27.200
<v Speaker 3>become a point of tension in my marriage, as my

0:28:27.280 --> 0:28:30.440
<v Speaker 3>husband has always maintained his sex drive. In an effort

0:28:30.480 --> 0:28:32.920
<v Speaker 3>to reconnect with my body and bring some excitement back

0:28:32.960 --> 0:28:35.760
<v Speaker 3>into our sex life, I recently bought my first vibrator.

0:28:36.280 --> 0:28:40.640
<v Speaker 3>While exploring, I made an embarrassing discovery. I've never actually

0:28:40.760 --> 0:28:45.320
<v Speaker 3>orgasms from my husband or most past partners. I've always

0:28:45.320 --> 0:28:48.840
<v Speaker 3>wondered if I even could orgasm. However, I did experience

0:28:48.840 --> 0:28:51.400
<v Speaker 3>it once with a previous partner, which has made this

0:28:51.440 --> 0:28:55.000
<v Speaker 3>realization even more confusing. Now I've learned that I can

0:28:55.000 --> 0:28:57.200
<v Speaker 3>do it myself, and I don't quite know how to

0:28:57.240 --> 0:29:00.280
<v Speaker 3>process that. I loved my husband deeply, and I know

0:29:00.360 --> 0:29:03.160
<v Speaker 3>this revelation will really hurt him. I don't want him

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<v Speaker 3>to feel inadequate, but I also want to be honest

0:29:05.480 --> 0:29:08.400
<v Speaker 3>so that we can improve our intimacy together. How do

0:29:08.440 --> 0:29:12.320
<v Speaker 3>I approach the conversation? That is a very tricky discovery.

0:29:12.920 --> 0:29:17.000
<v Speaker 3>It's a great discovery. Yeah, I'm really fuck I am

0:29:17.120 --> 0:29:18.240
<v Speaker 3>very please.

0:29:18.040 --> 0:29:19.320
<v Speaker 1>Here's lots of time on your own.

0:29:19.640 --> 0:29:22.520
<v Speaker 2>No, but it's a tricky discovery when you assumed that

0:29:22.640 --> 0:29:26.200
<v Speaker 2>you were having orgasms or reaching like some sort of

0:29:26.480 --> 0:29:29.400
<v Speaker 2>peak with your partner, to then discover, oh, actually, like

0:29:29.480 --> 0:29:32.960
<v Speaker 2>that's not and potentially it's why you don't have the

0:29:33.000 --> 0:29:35.400
<v Speaker 2>same sex drive, and that's kind of declined because you're

0:29:35.400 --> 0:29:38.720
<v Speaker 2>not actually sexually satisfied. And I mean, like, there's probably

0:29:38.760 --> 0:29:40.880
<v Speaker 2>a few ways that you can navigate this, But if

0:29:40.880 --> 0:29:44.760
<v Speaker 2>this was me, I would not tell my partner.

0:29:44.520 --> 0:29:45.880
<v Speaker 1>That he's never made me orgasm.

0:29:45.920 --> 0:29:47.640
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if that's going to be like the

0:29:47.720 --> 0:29:50.240
<v Speaker 2>right way of attacking the situation to start with, especially

0:29:50.280 --> 0:29:53.640
<v Speaker 2>when he thinks he has. But I would maybe have

0:29:53.680 --> 0:29:57.160
<v Speaker 2>a conversation and say, hey, I recently bought a vibrator

0:29:57.480 --> 0:30:02.360
<v Speaker 2>and I have done X Y and it's really really

0:30:02.440 --> 0:30:05.280
<v Speaker 2>great and it feels really amazing. Is there a way

0:30:05.320 --> 0:30:08.520
<v Speaker 2>that we can try and replicate that or bring it

0:30:08.520 --> 0:30:10.640
<v Speaker 2>into the bedroom, you know, when we're having sex.

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<v Speaker 1>I would love for you to be able to be

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<v Speaker 1>included in that. I don't know is that offensive?

0:30:15.440 --> 0:30:16.880
<v Speaker 3>Is that going to make him turn around and be like,

0:30:16.920 --> 0:30:17.560
<v Speaker 3>what are you mean?

0:30:18.200 --> 0:30:19.959
<v Speaker 2>I think that there's a way that you can include

0:30:19.960 --> 0:30:24.080
<v Speaker 2>the vibrator into your relationship so that maybe you can

0:30:24.120 --> 0:30:26.280
<v Speaker 2>get an oh, but he can be the one facilitating it.

0:30:26.880 --> 0:30:30.640
<v Speaker 3>I don't know how I feel about it, because I

0:30:30.880 --> 0:30:33.400
<v Speaker 3>do think you need to move forward with honesty and

0:30:33.440 --> 0:30:37.720
<v Speaker 3>I'm really thinking through this. I don't think the conversation

0:30:37.880 --> 0:30:41.480
<v Speaker 3>necessarily has to be you've never made me orgasm.

0:30:41.560 --> 0:30:43.240
<v Speaker 1>No, I think that that's too too harsh.

0:30:43.360 --> 0:30:45.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think the conversation can be different, But I

0:30:45.120 --> 0:30:47.320
<v Speaker 3>think I don't know how you'd navigate this without telling

0:30:47.400 --> 0:30:51.800
<v Speaker 3>him the truth in a way. Now, firstly, ten to

0:30:51.800 --> 0:30:55.240
<v Speaker 3>fifteen percent of women, so we're told with the internet,

0:30:55.320 --> 0:30:58.640
<v Speaker 3>actually don't or can't orgasm, So not every single woman can. Now,

0:30:58.680 --> 0:31:01.800
<v Speaker 3>we have had some sex ologiers before that have disputed that.

0:31:01.840 --> 0:31:03.800
<v Speaker 3>There are people that say that they don't believe those

0:31:03.840 --> 0:31:07.720
<v Speaker 3>facts that everybody can learn to orgasm. So I'm not sure,

0:31:07.760 --> 0:31:10.120
<v Speaker 3>but we are led to believe that there are some women,

0:31:10.200 --> 0:31:12.440
<v Speaker 3>and I know women in my own life that have

0:31:12.560 --> 0:31:14.680
<v Speaker 3>never had an orgasm, Like I know people in the

0:31:14.720 --> 0:31:17.360
<v Speaker 3>medical professional that have done all the research they can,

0:31:17.480 --> 0:31:19.480
<v Speaker 3>have tried everything, and they just can't. So there are

0:31:19.520 --> 0:31:22.960
<v Speaker 3>some people that can't. It sounds like you thought maybe

0:31:22.960 --> 0:31:24.520
<v Speaker 3>you were one of those people, and then you've made

0:31:24.520 --> 0:31:26.600
<v Speaker 3>this discovery. Well I hang on, maybe it just takes

0:31:26.600 --> 0:31:28.680
<v Speaker 3>something a little bit different for me to get there.

0:31:28.680 --> 0:31:30.920
<v Speaker 3>And I think that that's an amazing discovery because your

0:31:30.960 --> 0:31:33.440
<v Speaker 3>whole life is going to change now. But I don't

0:31:33.480 --> 0:31:35.360
<v Speaker 3>see why that can't be a conversation you can have

0:31:35.440 --> 0:31:39.040
<v Speaker 3>with your partner where you've said, hey, sex has always

0:31:39.080 --> 0:31:42.680
<v Speaker 3>been amazing with you. But I think I have had

0:31:42.720 --> 0:31:46.040
<v Speaker 3>a realization where I don't think I have reached my

0:31:46.160 --> 0:31:49.560
<v Speaker 3>full capacity with intimacy because I did have this moment.

0:31:50.120 --> 0:31:52.440
<v Speaker 3>But I think that, like it's instead of saying, hey,

0:31:53.000 --> 0:31:55.600
<v Speaker 3>I've never had an orgasm, it's like I felt something

0:31:55.640 --> 0:31:58.120
<v Speaker 3>I haven't quite felt before. Can we discover that? Can

0:31:59.000 --> 0:32:00.680
<v Speaker 3>we play with this a little bit? Because if you've

0:32:00.720 --> 0:32:04.600
<v Speaker 3>never introduced that stimulation before into your sex life as

0:32:04.640 --> 0:32:07.680
<v Speaker 3>a couple or alone, you won't to know. So that's

0:32:07.680 --> 0:32:11.840
<v Speaker 3>not necessarily a reflection on your husband's performance, your performance,

0:32:11.920 --> 0:32:14.160
<v Speaker 3>or anything else. It's just a difference with your body

0:32:14.160 --> 0:32:15.120
<v Speaker 3>and what your body needs.

0:32:15.200 --> 0:32:17.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and also on that it's been I mean, it's

0:32:17.160 --> 0:32:20.600
<v Speaker 2>well documented that a lot of people who have volvers

0:32:20.680 --> 0:32:23.680
<v Speaker 2>can't orgasm or climax from penetrative sex.

0:32:23.480 --> 0:32:24.560
<v Speaker 3>Right, Like those people can't.

0:32:24.920 --> 0:32:26.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, most people can't.

0:32:26.120 --> 0:32:28.520
<v Speaker 2>And there are a lot of women out there who

0:32:28.800 --> 0:32:32.400
<v Speaker 2>aren't able to come unless they're using vibrators. Like, I

0:32:32.400 --> 0:32:34.920
<v Speaker 2>don't think that this is an unusual thing, but I

0:32:34.960 --> 0:32:37.480
<v Speaker 2>don't think it should be stigmatized that that is the

0:32:37.520 --> 0:32:39.760
<v Speaker 2>way that you're able to reach climax, Like you shouldn't

0:32:39.800 --> 0:32:42.600
<v Speaker 2>be penalized or punished because your partner's ego is going

0:32:42.680 --> 0:32:43.080
<v Speaker 2>to be hurt.

0:32:43.360 --> 0:32:44.400
<v Speaker 1>I think there has to be a.

0:32:44.400 --> 0:32:46.560
<v Speaker 2>Way to be able to incorporate it into your sex

0:32:46.600 --> 0:32:48.600
<v Speaker 2>life so that you're able to reach the same level

0:32:48.640 --> 0:32:52.560
<v Speaker 2>of climax. And I don't think it should be I mean,

0:32:52.600 --> 0:32:54.800
<v Speaker 2>it's tricky because I know that we are saying it

0:32:54.840 --> 0:32:57.320
<v Speaker 2>shouldn't be seen as something that should be like ego hurt,

0:32:58.120 --> 0:33:00.280
<v Speaker 2>but that doesn't necessarily mean that that's how it's going

0:33:00.320 --> 0:33:01.920
<v Speaker 2>to play out when you have the conversation. So I

0:33:01.960 --> 0:33:05.120
<v Speaker 2>do think be careful around making sure that it's an

0:33:05.200 --> 0:33:08.640
<v Speaker 2>inclusive conversation around like how you can both get more

0:33:08.720 --> 0:33:09.560
<v Speaker 2>enjoyment out of.

0:33:09.560 --> 0:33:10.400
<v Speaker 1>Your sex together.

0:33:11.000 --> 0:33:16.000
<v Speaker 2>But I don't think you're alone in discovering that you

0:33:16.080 --> 0:33:18.760
<v Speaker 2>have a better climax when you do it to yourself

0:33:18.840 --> 0:33:21.280
<v Speaker 2>with a vibrator than what you do with a partner,

0:33:21.640 --> 0:33:25.400
<v Speaker 2>because like you also control everything, you know exactly where

0:33:25.440 --> 0:33:28.240
<v Speaker 2>and what to do as you're in the midst of it,

0:33:28.560 --> 0:33:30.640
<v Speaker 2>whereas like your partner's not a mind reader and doesn't

0:33:30.680 --> 0:33:33.000
<v Speaker 2>have that same sort of ability or understanding.

0:33:33.360 --> 0:33:35.720
<v Speaker 3>A man could be the best fucker in the world

0:33:36.160 --> 0:33:38.440
<v Speaker 3>and you could like he could win a competition that's like, hey,

0:33:38.440 --> 0:33:41.240
<v Speaker 3>I'm the best lover. You could still introduce a vibrator

0:33:41.240 --> 0:33:42.840
<v Speaker 3>on top of that and it will be better. Like

0:33:42.880 --> 0:33:45.320
<v Speaker 3>it doesn't have to be an ego hit. And it's

0:33:45.400 --> 0:33:47.440
<v Speaker 3>just that saying you don't know until you know, And

0:33:47.440 --> 0:33:49.880
<v Speaker 3>that's what's happened for you. You haven't known until you've known.

0:33:49.960 --> 0:33:52.080
<v Speaker 3>Now you know, and he needs to know that you

0:33:52.200 --> 0:33:53.360
<v Speaker 3>know that you don't know till you know.

0:33:53.560 --> 0:33:56.440
<v Speaker 2>There's an article from a sexologist named Tracy Cox right,

0:33:56.480 --> 0:33:58.760
<v Speaker 2>and she's said that there are lots of women who

0:33:58.800 --> 0:34:01.960
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't have orgasms all if it wasn't for the humble vibrator.

0:34:02.360 --> 0:34:05.120
<v Speaker 2>And it's more about finding ways that can bring you

0:34:05.160 --> 0:34:08.040
<v Speaker 2>to climax, rather than expecting that your partner is the

0:34:08.080 --> 0:34:09.799
<v Speaker 2>only person or only thing that would be able to

0:34:09.800 --> 0:34:12.680
<v Speaker 2>do that. So like teaching them or teaching yourself another

0:34:12.719 --> 0:34:15.719
<v Speaker 2>way is something that absolutely should be normalized. It's just

0:34:15.760 --> 0:34:17.560
<v Speaker 2>approaching the conversation in the right way.

0:34:17.760 --> 0:34:20.080
<v Speaker 3>I always think about it in reverse too, like if

0:34:20.200 --> 0:34:24.120
<v Speaker 3>my partner came to me and said, hey, I tried

0:34:24.120 --> 0:34:27.279
<v Speaker 3>this sex tweet. Oh my god, sex feels ten times better.

0:34:27.800 --> 0:34:30.280
<v Speaker 3>I'd be excited by that. I'd be like, awesome.

0:34:30.360 --> 0:34:32.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think you wouldn't say sex fells ten times better.

0:34:32.440 --> 0:34:34.080
<v Speaker 2>I think you'd say it felt really intense.

0:34:34.239 --> 0:34:35.719
<v Speaker 3>But that's what I mean. If if my partner came

0:34:35.719 --> 0:34:39.400
<v Speaker 3>to me and said this increases my feeling, that wouldn't

0:34:39.400 --> 0:34:41.640
<v Speaker 3>offend me. I'd be like, how cool that we found

0:34:41.680 --> 0:34:44.440
<v Speaker 3>something that makes you feel better. Like, and I understand

0:34:44.560 --> 0:34:46.440
<v Speaker 3>egos are different for men and women or whatever, but

0:34:46.480 --> 0:34:48.440
<v Speaker 3>I just think that's should way. When you approach it

0:34:48.440 --> 0:34:50.160
<v Speaker 3>that way, it shouldn't be But I think it's the

0:34:50.200 --> 0:34:52.719
<v Speaker 3>way you say it. It's the way you bring it

0:34:52.719 --> 0:34:54.560
<v Speaker 3>to him. And if you've never used it before, you

0:34:54.640 --> 0:34:57.360
<v Speaker 3>haven't known. Now you have new information and new education.

0:34:57.440 --> 0:34:59.520
<v Speaker 3>You can incorporate that to your life. But definitely do

0:34:59.640 --> 0:35:01.799
<v Speaker 3>not mean out on orgasms and better sex for your

0:35:01.840 --> 0:35:03.600
<v Speaker 3>partner because you're too worried about what he's going to think.

0:35:03.600 --> 0:35:05.280
<v Speaker 3>Because you're going to be married for another forty fifty

0:35:05.320 --> 0:35:08.160
<v Speaker 3>six years. You need to live your best life, all right.

0:35:08.280 --> 0:35:09.280
<v Speaker 1>Last question.

0:35:10.080 --> 0:35:12.360
<v Speaker 2>Last year, I went on a UNI exchange and in

0:35:12.400 --> 0:35:14.319
<v Speaker 2>the last few weeks there I met a British guy

0:35:14.360 --> 0:35:16.200
<v Speaker 2>who I genuinely believe.

0:35:15.880 --> 0:35:16.840
<v Speaker 1>Could be my person.

0:35:17.360 --> 0:35:19.360
<v Speaker 2>Since then, we have kept in contact and I have

0:35:19.480 --> 0:35:21.919
<v Speaker 2>met him in Bali and again back in the UK

0:35:22.040 --> 0:35:24.640
<v Speaker 2>for a few weeks later in the year. My dilemma

0:35:24.680 --> 0:35:26.360
<v Speaker 2>now is that I have agreed to go on a

0:35:26.400 --> 0:35:29.960
<v Speaker 2>cruise with my friend in April for contacts with this friend.

0:35:30.200 --> 0:35:32.400
<v Speaker 2>She has been my best friend for a few years,

0:35:32.440 --> 0:35:34.799
<v Speaker 2>but because of some things that happened last year, she

0:35:34.880 --> 0:35:38.640
<v Speaker 2>now lives with my ex boyfriend of four years that's random,

0:35:39.040 --> 0:35:40.960
<v Speaker 2>and a few other people who don't run in my

0:35:41.000 --> 0:35:44.000
<v Speaker 2>circles anymore. This has made our relationship a little bit

0:35:44.080 --> 0:35:47.879
<v Speaker 2>challenging recently, and this cruise with her entire family could

0:35:47.880 --> 0:35:51.160
<v Speaker 2>really be a make or break situation for us. However,

0:35:51.640 --> 0:35:53.920
<v Speaker 2>I have just found out that this is the only

0:35:54.040 --> 0:35:57.480
<v Speaker 2>time in the entire year, because he studies medicine and

0:35:57.520 --> 0:35:59.920
<v Speaker 2>gets little holidays, that my British boy would be a

0:36:00.040 --> 0:36:02.080
<v Speaker 2>were to come out to visit me for a few weeks.

0:36:02.640 --> 0:36:05.160
<v Speaker 2>Having this cruise smack bang in the middle of these

0:36:05.200 --> 0:36:07.400
<v Speaker 2>weeks means that the trip wouldn't be worth the money

0:36:07.400 --> 0:36:09.360
<v Speaker 2>for him if I'm only going to be there for

0:36:09.440 --> 0:36:10.080
<v Speaker 2>half the time.

0:36:10.560 --> 0:36:13.080
<v Speaker 1>So my question is how terrible of a friend am I?

0:36:13.400 --> 0:36:16.719
<v Speaker 2>And or will this ruin my friendship if I prioritize

0:36:16.719 --> 0:36:19.560
<v Speaker 2>seeing the potential love of my life over this cruise

0:36:19.600 --> 0:36:22.200
<v Speaker 2>with my best friend. Also a little bit more context.

0:36:22.480 --> 0:36:25.759
<v Speaker 2>She was so excited when I told her I was

0:36:25.800 --> 0:36:27.839
<v Speaker 2>going to come on the cruise and has not been

0:36:27.920 --> 0:36:31.000
<v Speaker 2>overly supportive of this British man I've been obsessing over.

0:36:31.400 --> 0:36:33.799
<v Speaker 2>So I really feel like me doing this would be

0:36:33.880 --> 0:36:37.359
<v Speaker 2>taken very personally, and I'm worried that we potentially won't

0:36:37.360 --> 0:36:39.719
<v Speaker 2>fully come back from it. But it also feels like

0:36:39.760 --> 0:36:41.839
<v Speaker 2>if I can take the opportunity to see him, then

0:36:41.840 --> 0:36:42.320
<v Speaker 2>I should.

0:36:43.760 --> 0:36:45.120
<v Speaker 1>No one has a mirror ball.

0:36:45.440 --> 0:36:50.880
<v Speaker 3>I have two very different opinions. It's hard because, like you,

0:36:51.120 --> 0:36:53.440
<v Speaker 3>I did it. Yes, no, I didn't do it. You

0:36:53.440 --> 0:36:55.640
<v Speaker 3>didn't cancel something on me? But yes, no, but Ben

0:36:55.719 --> 0:36:59.520
<v Speaker 3>did it? So okay, hear me out straight up. Is

0:36:59.560 --> 0:37:02.200
<v Speaker 3>this going to jeopardize your friendship? Probably? Yeah, And you've

0:37:02.200 --> 0:37:04.000
<v Speaker 3>said that we don't know that. You've said that.

0:37:04.239 --> 0:37:07.399
<v Speaker 2>Yes, you have written that she was so excited, she's

0:37:07.440 --> 0:37:09.040
<v Speaker 2>already got to be in a bonnet about the guy

0:37:09.200 --> 0:37:09.680
<v Speaker 2>she is.

0:37:09.880 --> 0:37:11.160
<v Speaker 1>It's going to change your friendship.

0:37:11.239 --> 0:37:12.320
<v Speaker 3>The only thing here.

0:37:12.280 --> 0:37:14.480
<v Speaker 1>Is hope with your ex. Yeah, that's weird.

0:37:14.640 --> 0:37:16.080
<v Speaker 3>The only thing is here? Why the fuck is she

0:37:16.120 --> 0:37:18.239
<v Speaker 3>with your egg? No, but it would be different. There's

0:37:18.239 --> 0:37:20.600
<v Speaker 3>a few variables. It'd be different for me if this

0:37:20.719 --> 0:37:22.359
<v Speaker 3>was a holiday that they were going on as two

0:37:22.360 --> 0:37:25.040
<v Speaker 3>friends and she bailed. Her whole family is going Did

0:37:25.080 --> 0:37:27.080
<v Speaker 3>I hear that right? Like she's on a trip with her.

0:37:27.000 --> 0:37:29.080
<v Speaker 1>Family, yes, and she's invited her friend to come.

0:37:29.200 --> 0:37:31.239
<v Speaker 3>Yep. So she's like, Hey, I'm on this trip with

0:37:31.280 --> 0:37:32.680
<v Speaker 3>my family. Do you want to come? And you're like, yeah,

0:37:32.719 --> 0:37:35.239
<v Speaker 3>you know what, got nothing else to do? Sure? Now

0:37:35.280 --> 0:37:38.320
<v Speaker 3>you do have something else to do. Which it's tricky

0:37:38.360 --> 0:37:40.799
<v Speaker 3>because you're only leaving her where she started. She never

0:37:40.840 --> 0:37:42.799
<v Speaker 3>started the trip with you. She was on a family trip.

0:37:42.800 --> 0:37:44.279
<v Speaker 3>You're going to come. You're not so there that I

0:37:44.360 --> 0:37:46.520
<v Speaker 3>don't think she will see it like that. She won't,

0:37:46.560 --> 0:37:48.560
<v Speaker 3>but let hear me out. This is why it's slightly

0:37:48.560 --> 0:37:51.279
<v Speaker 3>different for me. If you had a trip just with her,

0:37:51.760 --> 0:37:57.240
<v Speaker 3>you two, then I would say you absolutely cannot cancel.

0:37:57.680 --> 0:38:00.760
<v Speaker 3>But you're talking to somebody who is marrying the person

0:38:01.040 --> 0:38:03.000
<v Speaker 3>that she took a risk on, a guy she met

0:38:03.000 --> 0:38:05.400
<v Speaker 3>for three days and I took a risk, so my

0:38:05.400 --> 0:38:07.439
<v Speaker 3>my train of thought is not normal. And you guys

0:38:07.520 --> 0:38:11.319
<v Speaker 3>might remember if you passed your mind back, my train

0:38:11.400 --> 0:38:12.640
<v Speaker 3>of thought is not normal.

0:38:12.800 --> 0:38:13.240
<v Speaker 1>It's true.

0:38:13.280 --> 0:38:15.480
<v Speaker 3>Take that as a quote. But if you cast your

0:38:15.480 --> 0:38:18.399
<v Speaker 3>guys mind back a couple of years. In the first

0:38:18.520 --> 0:38:20.400
<v Speaker 3>year that Ben and I were together, there was a

0:38:20.440 --> 0:38:22.640
<v Speaker 3>moment that we did talk about in the podcast, but

0:38:22.640 --> 0:38:25.719
<v Speaker 3>if you missed it, which highly likely did, Ben had

0:38:25.800 --> 0:38:29.480
<v Speaker 3>like a friend's wedding that he was invited to, and

0:38:29.600 --> 0:38:32.480
<v Speaker 3>it was the one time in six months that he

0:38:32.520 --> 0:38:34.560
<v Speaker 3>and I could see each other because of our holidays,

0:38:34.600 --> 0:38:37.400
<v Speaker 3>and so we were still in the early stages of

0:38:37.440 --> 0:38:39.920
<v Speaker 3>getting to know each other. We were in a relationship,

0:38:40.239 --> 0:38:41.839
<v Speaker 3>but like you didn't know you're going to marry each

0:38:41.840 --> 0:38:45.160
<v Speaker 3>other yet, yeah, And he ended up making a really

0:38:45.160 --> 0:38:49.320
<v Speaker 3>difficult decision to see me instead. It was a really

0:38:49.360 --> 0:38:51.600
<v Speaker 3>tough decision because he's like, this is my friend's wedding,

0:38:51.640 --> 0:38:55.360
<v Speaker 3>but he's like he inside was like there is something

0:38:55.360 --> 0:38:57.839
<v Speaker 3>about this girl. Okay me, but he's like the saying

0:38:57.840 --> 0:38:59.400
<v Speaker 3>about this girl. And this is the way he explained

0:38:59.400 --> 0:39:00.920
<v Speaker 3>it to his friend. He said, I think if I

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<v Speaker 3>don't go and see this girl, it could be a

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<v Speaker 3>really bad decision. He's like, I really think that she's

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<v Speaker 3>going to be a part of my future. And he

0:39:07.600 --> 0:39:09.960
<v Speaker 3>had a really sit down conversation and said, like, she's

0:39:10.040 --> 0:39:13.120
<v Speaker 3>really important to me, and if I don't see her now,

0:39:13.160 --> 0:39:14.920
<v Speaker 3>the relationship won't work because I won't see her for

0:39:14.960 --> 0:39:17.080
<v Speaker 3>like a year. And I didn't want him to say that.

0:39:17.520 --> 0:39:19.640
<v Speaker 3>I left it completely in his court, and I actually

0:39:19.680 --> 0:39:22.960
<v Speaker 3>felt really guilty. But he's still really great friends with

0:39:23.000 --> 0:39:24.880
<v Speaker 3>that person, and he and I are getting married. And

0:39:24.920 --> 0:39:28.400
<v Speaker 3>I know that's not a normal example, but it's the

0:39:28.480 --> 0:39:30.640
<v Speaker 3>first thing I thought about. When you're saying I really

0:39:30.719 --> 0:39:32.839
<v Speaker 3>like this guy that I've met and we might not

0:39:32.840 --> 0:39:35.880
<v Speaker 3>see each other. It's super tricky, but I think we

0:39:36.000 --> 0:39:38.479
<v Speaker 3>can't answer it because we don't know how you feel

0:39:38.480 --> 0:39:40.040
<v Speaker 3>and we don't know what this guy means to you.

0:39:40.880 --> 0:39:43.759
<v Speaker 3>But how important is your friendship because she's gonna be

0:39:43.800 --> 0:39:45.200
<v Speaker 3>if she's gonna be upset and it is going to

0:39:45.280 --> 0:39:48.120
<v Speaker 3>cancel your friendship, that's a different question. Ben had the

0:39:48.160 --> 0:39:51.320
<v Speaker 3>conversation with his friend and they understood and they moved forward,

0:39:51.719 --> 0:39:52.440
<v Speaker 3>but she might not.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, this is such a hard one because, like Britt,

0:39:54.800 --> 0:39:59.120
<v Speaker 2>you are the exception. What you guys have experienced. Is

0:39:59.200 --> 0:40:02.359
<v Speaker 2>not standard, you know. And I think the other part

0:40:02.400 --> 0:40:05.080
<v Speaker 2>of this to keep in mind is you said that

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<v Speaker 2>this is the only time in a year.

0:40:07.160 --> 0:40:09.000
<v Speaker 1>I think it was that you'd be able to see him.

0:40:09.360 --> 0:40:12.439
<v Speaker 2>Are you going to be able to sustain a year

0:40:12.800 --> 0:40:16.200
<v Speaker 2>of long distance with only two weeks together. I just

0:40:16.239 --> 0:40:19.160
<v Speaker 2>think that there's some big conversations to have with him first,

0:40:19.239 --> 0:40:21.520
<v Speaker 2>because you've obviously been to Bally to see him, You've

0:40:21.520 --> 0:40:23.359
<v Speaker 2>gone to the UK to see him, like you are

0:40:23.400 --> 0:40:26.000
<v Speaker 2>making effort and you guys are keeping in contact and

0:40:26.040 --> 0:40:29.160
<v Speaker 2>everything else, like you will know what is happening. But

0:40:29.200 --> 0:40:31.440
<v Speaker 2>I think that there should be some big conversations around

0:40:31.480 --> 0:40:33.280
<v Speaker 2>like are you in a relationship together?

0:40:33.320 --> 0:40:35.719
<v Speaker 3>Like are you actually exclusive? Is that what's happening again?

0:40:35.800 --> 0:40:36.600
<v Speaker 3>Do you just have a crush?

0:40:36.600 --> 0:40:38.399
<v Speaker 2>Because the difference for you, Britt is like you guys

0:40:38.400 --> 0:40:40.840
<v Speaker 2>were exclusive at least at that point in time and obsessed,

0:40:41.360 --> 0:40:44.280
<v Speaker 2>You had a close relationship, you were a boyfriend and girlfriend.

0:40:44.280 --> 0:40:47.520
<v Speaker 2>You'd already made that commitment to each other. I don't know,

0:40:47.600 --> 0:40:49.400
<v Speaker 2>and it doesn't to me, doesn't sound like that's the

0:40:49.440 --> 0:40:51.319
<v Speaker 2>case here. It sounds like it's two people who are

0:40:51.320 --> 0:40:53.960
<v Speaker 2>infatuated with each other and you've you know, you've still

0:40:54.000 --> 0:40:56.040
<v Speaker 2>got your own things going on in your lives, but

0:40:56.080 --> 0:40:59.560
<v Speaker 2>you haven't really had those big conversations yet. So the

0:40:59.680 --> 0:41:04.600
<v Speaker 2>question is, potentially have those conversations with him. Is he

0:41:04.800 --> 0:41:09.040
<v Speaker 2>serious about the relationship being a relationship, about closing the relationship,

0:41:09.120 --> 0:41:12.400
<v Speaker 2>about looking to what the future looks like, what is

0:41:12.600 --> 0:41:15.320
<v Speaker 2>a bit of a plan there? And if that's the case,

0:41:15.360 --> 0:41:17.920
<v Speaker 2>then maybe here's someone that you are okay with risking

0:41:17.920 --> 0:41:20.560
<v Speaker 2>a friendship on. But it does sound like you want

0:41:20.640 --> 0:41:23.000
<v Speaker 2>us to tell you that it's okay to go and

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<v Speaker 2>do this. The thing is is you can do whatever

0:41:25.800 --> 0:41:28.839
<v Speaker 2>you want to, but you will have the fallout from

0:41:28.840 --> 0:41:30.640
<v Speaker 2>your friendship. If it sounds like your friend is going

0:41:30.719 --> 0:41:32.240
<v Speaker 2>to take that really personally.

0:41:31.880 --> 0:41:34.040
<v Speaker 3>He needs to one hundred You need to be together. Yeah,

0:41:34.200 --> 0:41:36.400
<v Speaker 3>this shouldn't eve even Aye, Sorry I just made that assumption.

0:41:36.440 --> 0:41:38.440
<v Speaker 3>This shouldn't even be a conversation if you're not together.

0:41:38.560 --> 0:41:40.440
<v Speaker 2>I don't think they are. I think that they're still.

0:41:40.880 --> 0:41:42.920
<v Speaker 2>I mean, who knows. But it's like, this is the

0:41:42.920 --> 0:41:45.399
<v Speaker 2>boy that I'm obsessed with, But she hasn't actually said

0:41:45.400 --> 0:41:47.120
<v Speaker 2>that this is her partner, this is what she's in

0:41:47.160 --> 0:41:47.880
<v Speaker 2>a relationship with.

0:41:48.040 --> 0:41:51.240
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, this is my genuine response. And there is zero

0:41:51.360 --> 0:41:54.680
<v Speaker 3>reason that this can't happen. I think he comes to

0:41:54.719 --> 0:41:57.640
<v Speaker 3>see you. You both go on the cruise together. They're

0:41:57.640 --> 0:42:00.359
<v Speaker 3>with their family, you're with your friend. He's there seeing

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<v Speaker 3>something else.

0:42:00.880 --> 0:42:02.360
<v Speaker 1>No, that's weird. You can't invite it.

0:42:02.440 --> 0:42:05.799
<v Speaker 3>Weird. Also the cruise ship. Sorry, this girl and her

0:42:05.840 --> 0:42:07.279
<v Speaker 3>family don't own the cruise ship.

0:42:07.360 --> 0:42:08.200
<v Speaker 1>It's not that though.

0:42:08.239 --> 0:42:10.160
<v Speaker 2>It's about inviting your friend to come and have a

0:42:10.160 --> 0:42:12.440
<v Speaker 2>holiday with you, and then they've brought their new boyfriend.

0:42:12.440 --> 0:42:13.799
<v Speaker 1>They're not gonna spend time with you.

0:42:14.160 --> 0:42:16.160
<v Speaker 3>Yes, you will, you have Well, that would be that,

0:42:16.160 --> 0:42:18.480
<v Speaker 3>That would be what I would do if one hundred percent,

0:42:18.560 --> 0:42:20.720
<v Speaker 3>I would say, hey, can we come on the cruise.

0:42:20.800 --> 0:42:22.919
<v Speaker 3>She's got her family, she's got her whole group. There's

0:42:23.040 --> 0:42:25.239
<v Speaker 3>zero reason you can't also say, hey, do you know

0:42:25.280 --> 0:42:26.799
<v Speaker 3>what this could be really cool? You can get to

0:42:26.840 --> 0:42:29.719
<v Speaker 3>know a guy that's important to me. You're important to me.

0:42:29.920 --> 0:42:32.640
<v Speaker 3>There's ways to spin this. I ways to spin this.

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<v Speaker 2>I do not think that that will be well received.

0:42:36.000 --> 0:42:40.280
<v Speaker 3>FI gross cross. Hang on, is it a neutist orgie cruise?

0:42:40.280 --> 0:42:42.920
<v Speaker 3>You know those like sex cruises, pie cruissm No, I.

0:42:42.840 --> 0:42:45.279
<v Speaker 2>Think it's probably just a carnival and they're just gonna

0:42:45.280 --> 0:42:47.560
<v Speaker 2>go and have a nice little times Peanuts. It's probably

0:42:47.600 --> 0:42:50.600
<v Speaker 2>a Disney cruise, Okay, I don't know. I don't think

0:42:50.600 --> 0:42:52.399
<v Speaker 2>that you can take the boy that you barely see,

0:42:52.400 --> 0:42:53.879
<v Speaker 2>because you guys are just gonna want to have sex

0:42:53.920 --> 0:42:55.600
<v Speaker 2>twenty four hours a day. Like you're not gonna want

0:42:55.600 --> 0:42:58.040
<v Speaker 2>to hang out with your friend's mum. So like, I

0:42:58.080 --> 0:43:00.960
<v Speaker 2>don't think that that's gonna be a fair holiday for

0:43:01.040 --> 0:43:04.120
<v Speaker 2>everyone because your friend is going to get very jealous

0:43:04.120 --> 0:43:06.040
<v Speaker 2>that you've brought this person who you want to see

0:43:06.040 --> 0:43:06.600
<v Speaker 2>more than her.

0:43:06.680 --> 0:43:08.960
<v Speaker 3>Like that's going to create a weird dynamic. I don't know.

0:43:09.000 --> 0:43:10.960
<v Speaker 3>It goes two ways because if you were I don't

0:43:10.960 --> 0:43:12.400
<v Speaker 3>want to say if you're a real friend, but if

0:43:12.400 --> 0:43:15.000
<v Speaker 3>you had a really close friendship close enough to go away,

0:43:15.239 --> 0:43:17.919
<v Speaker 3>you can have that conversation where you're like, hey, hey,

0:43:17.920 --> 0:43:20.040
<v Speaker 3>this is what's happening. I really like this guy. It's

0:43:20.080 --> 0:43:22.359
<v Speaker 3>the only time he can come on holiday, do you reckon?

0:43:22.400 --> 0:43:24.120
<v Speaker 3>He can come on the cruise. Like, it's not like

0:43:24.160 --> 0:43:26.320
<v Speaker 3>you're sleeping in a bed with her, she's with her family.

0:43:26.840 --> 0:43:30.560
<v Speaker 3>You can definitely all hang out. You're adults, you're not kids.

0:43:31.120 --> 0:43:33.560
<v Speaker 3>You cannot be in a situation where as grown women

0:43:33.640 --> 0:43:36.399
<v Speaker 3>you are jealous that your friend wants to bring her

0:43:36.440 --> 0:43:38.520
<v Speaker 3>partner to your family holiday.

0:43:38.560 --> 0:43:42.200
<v Speaker 2>That's why trying to tell me, honestly, that if Ben

0:43:42.239 --> 0:43:44.200
<v Speaker 2>came over, if he was coming here for three weeks

0:43:44.280 --> 0:43:46.759
<v Speaker 2>or two weeks or whatever, and we were going away

0:43:46.760 --> 0:43:49.640
<v Speaker 2>on a holiday with my family and you were like, Okay,

0:43:49.680 --> 0:43:51.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to bring Ben on the cruise with you,

0:43:51.800 --> 0:43:54.880
<v Speaker 2>that you would still prioritize time with me and my family.

0:43:55.640 --> 0:43:58.520
<v Speaker 3>You'd hang out all day long. You would.

0:43:58.520 --> 0:44:01.080
<v Speaker 2>I'd be like, where's You'd be like into the reception

0:44:01.200 --> 0:44:03.360
<v Speaker 2>is bad down and the drudges, but of course you

0:44:03.440 --> 0:44:03.839
<v Speaker 2>still have.

0:44:03.960 --> 0:44:06.080
<v Speaker 3>She's still gonna have her moments with her family. You're

0:44:06.120 --> 0:44:08.440
<v Speaker 3>not gonna you don't want to hang out with your friends,

0:44:08.480 --> 0:44:11.640
<v Speaker 3>parents and brothers and sisters for a fucking crew whole cruise.

0:44:11.960 --> 0:44:14.239
<v Speaker 3>It's different. It's not you're not going to a really

0:44:14.320 --> 0:44:17.120
<v Speaker 3>romantic airbnb where it's secluded on a private beach and

0:44:17.120 --> 0:44:20.120
<v Speaker 3>it's just a family. It's a cruise with thousands of people,

0:44:20.480 --> 0:44:24.120
<v Speaker 3>thousands of restaurants, entertainment like these thousands I don't know,

0:44:24.200 --> 0:44:26.440
<v Speaker 3>but you know what I mean. These cruise ships are humongous.

0:44:26.840 --> 0:44:29.719
<v Speaker 3>They're absolutely insane. There's water parks on them. I don't

0:44:29.719 --> 0:44:32.040
<v Speaker 3>think it's the biggest deal to meet in the middle

0:44:32.120 --> 0:44:35.360
<v Speaker 3>and say, like, I really want you to also call opportunity.

0:44:35.600 --> 0:44:37.239
<v Speaker 3>You can all still hang, but you will have to

0:44:37.280 --> 0:44:39.600
<v Speaker 3>make the effort to hang out with her on the crew.

0:44:39.760 --> 0:44:41.560
<v Speaker 2>The reason is, let me give you one more spanner

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<v Speaker 2>as to why that won't work, because the reason why

0:44:43.680 --> 0:44:45.960
<v Speaker 2>she's invited her is because she's probably got a room,

0:44:46.040 --> 0:44:47.320
<v Speaker 2>so they will share a bed together.

0:44:47.400 --> 0:44:50.400
<v Speaker 3>We don't know that with speculation, but I speculation.

0:44:50.000 --> 0:44:53.040
<v Speaker 2>Cruises sell out very quickly and it's very okay cruise

0:44:53.120 --> 0:44:56.280
<v Speaker 2>they do, they do. But it's also like she's probably

0:44:56.280 --> 0:44:58.520
<v Speaker 2>invited her because she's got a spare, like she's got

0:44:58.520 --> 0:44:59.960
<v Speaker 2>the double bed and it's a twin room.

0:45:00.120 --> 0:45:01.560
<v Speaker 3>She's invited it because she doesn't want to be on

0:45:01.600 --> 0:45:04.279
<v Speaker 3>a holiday with a family. No, but there's space for her.

0:45:04.320 --> 0:45:06.120
<v Speaker 2>I doubt that she said, hey, come on this cruise

0:45:06.160 --> 0:45:08.560
<v Speaker 2>and completely book yourself your own bedroom, because if it

0:45:08.640 --> 0:45:10.120
<v Speaker 2>was that was the case, and I'd be like, sure,

0:45:10.160 --> 0:45:12.560
<v Speaker 2>it's different, she's booked entirely or her own room. What

0:45:12.600 --> 0:45:14.560
<v Speaker 2>I'm reducing from what she said, is that she's been

0:45:14.600 --> 0:45:17.440
<v Speaker 2>invited because it probably makes sense from a numbers perspective

0:45:17.480 --> 0:45:19.319
<v Speaker 2>for her to have a friend there. I don't know

0:45:19.560 --> 0:45:22.120
<v Speaker 2>the only way to answer this is that you have

0:45:22.160 --> 0:45:24.759
<v Speaker 2>to make a decision around what's more important, and if

0:45:24.760 --> 0:45:27.640
<v Speaker 2>it's taking a punt on this relationship or it's your friendship,

0:45:28.000 --> 0:45:29.680
<v Speaker 2>one of them is going to be affected by the

0:45:29.719 --> 0:45:30.560
<v Speaker 2>decision that you make.

0:45:30.680 --> 0:45:32.400
<v Speaker 1>And so if you are at a point.

0:45:32.160 --> 0:45:35.880
<v Speaker 2>Where you're like, okay, I'm okay with the friendship being

0:45:35.960 --> 0:45:39.000
<v Speaker 2>damaged and potentially never coming back from this, then that's

0:45:39.040 --> 0:45:41.080
<v Speaker 2>the decision to make. But I think be careful because

0:45:41.120 --> 0:45:43.279
<v Speaker 2>I think often relationships are not the exception that you

0:45:43.280 --> 0:45:44.880
<v Speaker 2>think they are, and so you could throw away a

0:45:44.920 --> 0:45:47.879
<v Speaker 2>really important friendship for someone who might not be ready

0:45:47.920 --> 0:45:49.640
<v Speaker 2>to make the commitments that you are if you haven't

0:45:49.680 --> 0:45:50.880
<v Speaker 2>had those conversations first.

0:45:51.040 --> 0:45:53.719
<v Speaker 3>If you think that this could be your person and

0:45:53.760 --> 0:45:55.920
<v Speaker 3>you guys are together, then I think it's a different

0:45:55.920 --> 0:45:59.480
<v Speaker 3>conversation because at some point you do have to prioritize yourself.

0:46:00.440 --> 0:46:02.880
<v Speaker 3>You weren't going on the cruise just with your friend.

0:46:03.200 --> 0:46:05.480
<v Speaker 3>She was already going with her family. You were invited

0:46:05.600 --> 0:46:07.480
<v Speaker 3>as an extra to make it a bit more fun.

0:46:07.640 --> 0:46:11.799
<v Speaker 3>That to me is different. But unless I know how

0:46:11.840 --> 0:46:14.120
<v Speaker 3>important this person is to you, And again, I'm not

0:46:14.280 --> 0:46:17.120
<v Speaker 3>normal because that's how I met the love of my life,

0:46:17.160 --> 0:46:20.920
<v Speaker 3>like my husband. Is this situation that you're explaining you

0:46:21.000 --> 0:46:24.520
<v Speaker 3>met someone from a different country, you've become infatuated, and

0:46:24.560 --> 0:46:26.560
<v Speaker 3>you're falling in love, and you're trying to make it work,

0:46:26.560 --> 0:46:28.839
<v Speaker 3>and trying to make it work as someone that's done

0:46:28.880 --> 0:46:30.680
<v Speaker 3>it for two and a half years now, is fucking

0:46:30.840 --> 0:46:34.120
<v Speaker 3>so hard. And I will never now that I've lived it,

0:46:34.160 --> 0:46:36.640
<v Speaker 3>I will never tell someone again, oh, you've only known

0:46:36.680 --> 0:46:40.000
<v Speaker 3>them for four days, that you don't know they mean nothing. Sure,

0:46:40.040 --> 0:46:42.120
<v Speaker 3>you've only known them for four days, you don't know them,

0:46:42.600 --> 0:46:44.279
<v Speaker 3>but it doesn't mean they don't mean anything to you

0:46:44.320 --> 0:46:46.200
<v Speaker 3>and that you don't want to make something work. But

0:46:46.280 --> 0:46:49.560
<v Speaker 3>if you truly think that this could be your penguin

0:46:49.960 --> 0:46:51.759
<v Speaker 3>and you're trying so hard to make it work, and

0:46:51.800 --> 0:46:54.439
<v Speaker 3>it really is the only time of the entire year

0:46:54.480 --> 0:46:56.799
<v Speaker 3>you can possibly spend any time together, then I would

0:46:56.800 --> 0:46:59.160
<v Speaker 3>have a sit down with my friend. I wouldn't tell her.

0:46:59.600 --> 0:47:02.560
<v Speaker 3>I would have the conversation, Hey, this is the predicament

0:47:02.560 --> 0:47:05.839
<v Speaker 3>I've found myself in I really value our friendship. I

0:47:05.880 --> 0:47:08.000
<v Speaker 3>think this could be my person though, like I've just

0:47:08.040 --> 0:47:10.879
<v Speaker 3>never felt anything like this. I'm really trying to find

0:47:10.880 --> 0:47:12.680
<v Speaker 3>a way to make both work. Like how would you

0:47:12.680 --> 0:47:14.759
<v Speaker 3>feel if I did that? And if she really said

0:47:14.800 --> 0:47:17.480
<v Speaker 3>to you like I wouldn't forgive you, then that's something

0:47:17.480 --> 0:47:19.440
<v Speaker 3>that you need to decide on your own. But I

0:47:19.440 --> 0:47:21.520
<v Speaker 3>wouldn't go to her and just say, hey, I'm doing this,

0:47:21.560 --> 0:47:24.400
<v Speaker 3>I'm not coming anymore. But after math this one, please

0:47:24.520 --> 0:47:26.439
<v Speaker 3>please let us know what happens in this, because it's

0:47:26.520 --> 0:47:27.239
<v Speaker 3>really true.

0:47:27.280 --> 0:47:28.600
<v Speaker 2>The only other thing to add to it is, I

0:47:28.600 --> 0:47:30.040
<v Speaker 2>know you've said this is the only three weeks that

0:47:30.080 --> 0:47:32.400
<v Speaker 2>he can come over here, but is there not the

0:47:32.400 --> 0:47:35.000
<v Speaker 2>possibility for you to go back over there to spend

0:47:35.080 --> 0:47:37.520
<v Speaker 2>time with him, and maybe he can pay for those flights.

0:47:37.600 --> 0:47:39.680
<v Speaker 2>If it's about you, guys, being together, then it shouldn't

0:47:39.680 --> 0:47:41.640
<v Speaker 2>be whether he travels here or you travel there. But yeah,

0:47:41.680 --> 0:47:43.680
<v Speaker 2>I think you absolutely should only be doing this, so

0:47:43.719 --> 0:47:45.320
<v Speaker 2>making these sacrifices for someone who's.

0:47:45.160 --> 0:47:45.680
<v Speaker 1>Committed to you.

0:47:45.719 --> 0:47:48.160
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