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Speaker 2: Good morning to your Chief Minister Kenny.

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Speaker 1: Now you have this morning announced the government's going to

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Speaker 2: How's this going to work?

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Speaker 3: So we're going to essentially do a safe staged exit

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Speaker 3: It's a safe change. I understand it's not going as

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Speaker 1: So, has your announcement today been completely guided by health

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Speaker 3: To every decision we've made is based on the health advice.

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Speaker 1: It was reported on the weekend that the government's vaccine

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Speaker 2: By you, Chief Minister. How is this going to work?

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Speaker 3: So we're obviously a pro vax government will simply make

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Speaker 3: This applies to all future contracts. Anyone who's already got

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Speaker 1: required to have received at least one dose by November twelve,

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Speaker 1: I believe it is, and the second by December twenty four.

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Speaker 2: How is it going to be?

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Speaker 1: Police like our employers going to be expected to dab

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Speaker 1: in their employees.

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Speaker 3: So we will have obviously a register, so asking every

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Speaker 3: business to just keep a list of who's there. Absolutely,

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Speaker 3: I expect an employee judy of care. So our device

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Speaker 3: is this is probably captured under the work of and

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Speaker 3: safety legislation as judy of care. So we're saying if

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Speaker 3: we didn't do the choe directions, high likelihood you as

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Speaker 3: an employerer, we'll probably required to do this anyway. But

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Speaker 3: to make it really clear, really straightforward, have one spot

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Speaker 3: So absolutely you have a duty of care as an

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Speaker 3: employer to make sure that choe direction is enforced. And

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Speaker 3: there was a twenty five grand five for you as

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Speaker 3: a business. Don't enforce this, is it going to be.

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Speaker 1: Tough for them to try and actually, you know, enforce

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Speaker 1: this or are we going to see police out there

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Speaker 1: in the workforce or in the workplaces performing compliance checks.

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Speaker 3: So there's probably two things at first. Like everything, we'll

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Speaker 3: go to education first, so we've we've always done that.

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Speaker 3: We haven't led with enforcement with lead of education as

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Speaker 3: probably environmental health officers are more likely the ones to

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Speaker 3: be enforcing this, or you know, it'spot checking businesses. If

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Speaker 3: you have any concerns, we're happy to work it through

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Speaker 3: with you. My understanding is that this is a very straightforward,

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Speaker 3: fair work process to implement. It only is a problem

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Speaker 3: with someone's refusing to be vaccinated and as we know

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Speaker 3: night Dale and ninety percent first dough So it's going

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Speaker 3: to be a small only a small number of people affected.

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Speaker 2: So what about with government jobs?

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Speaker 1: If there are people within the public service who refuse

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Speaker 1: to get vaccinated, they will be stood down.

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Speaker 3: Yep. So we've also got a process we've got to

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Speaker 3: got to work through. So the advice I've got this is,

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Speaker 3: you know, always see a lawyer for specific advice, But

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Speaker 3: the advice I have in general is essentially, there has

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Speaker 3: to be a process. You can't just dismiss someone. You've

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Speaker 3: got to actually go through a process. And then at

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Speaker 3: the end of that process, there's really only two options

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Speaker 3: in this scenario. Can that person be a reassigned Is

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Speaker 3: there another task they can physically do within your business

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Speaker 3: or the public service that is legitimate, That is a

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Speaker 3: genuine thing that they can actually do. You can't make work.

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Speaker 3: It's got to be genuine. If there isn't, then really

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Speaker 3: dismissiles the only option.

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Speaker 1: And there are so many questions coming through. I might

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Speaker 1: just ask you one quick one about hot spots. I

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Speaker 1: know that's you know currently right now, I believe Victoria,

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Speaker 1: parts of Victoria and also New South Wales are declared

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Speaker 1: hot spots. Is there going to be a winding back

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Speaker 1: of any of those at this point?

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Speaker 3: So we have flag that we will move to what

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Speaker 3: we're calling orange zones, where we see the COVID risk

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Speaker 3: as lower. If you're coming from an orange zone, you

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Speaker 3: only test negative on arrival. So we haven't obviously declared

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Speaker 3: orange zones yet. That's a new thing as we've announced,

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Speaker 3: we talked about it. We haven't declared any yet, but

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Speaker 3: we're going to move to a position where if we

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Speaker 3: feel an area like regional Vick or something like that

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Speaker 3: will require from you when you arrive is a negative

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Speaker 2: What's going to differentiate between a red zone and an

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Speaker 2: orange zigone.

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Speaker 3: So it will be the work the chow does around

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Speaker 3: risk where the case is is it a household only

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Speaker 3: all the cases linked, what's the wastewater saying, So similar

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Speaker 3: to how we've done in the past, if we feel

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Speaker 3: that's an area of load medium risk, will declare it

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Speaker 3: an orange zone. Then all the double dose persons doing

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Speaker 3: a arrivals test negative.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So for those orange signs, but for the red zones.

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Speaker 1: Presumably the likes of Victoria and New South Wales would

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Speaker 1: stay as they are right now as red zone.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I mean, and obviously more likely the capital cities.

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Speaker 3: If you look over the last eighty months, what's been

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Speaker 3: the hot spots? More likely capitals. We'll obviously keep at

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Speaker 3: the moment Victorians have Wales. But if you're going to

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Speaker 3: look in an area that will become orange, is more

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Speaker 3: likely be regional areas that will go orange, and not

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Speaker 3: capitals have been more likely to be hot.

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Speaker 1: Chief Minister Michael Gunner, we are going to have to

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Speaker 1: leave it there. Appreciate your time this morning. Thanks very

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Speaker 1: much for chatting with us.

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Speaker 3: Thank you,