1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:03,240 Speaker 1: Everybody. 2 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 2: It's Jonesy and the Man Floor. 3 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 3: As the song said, there's a fine line between pleasure 4 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 3: and pain. 5 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 1: What do you remember? A couple of weeks ago on 6 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:17,919 Speaker 1: our radio show, we spoke about a guy called so 7 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 1: Coyote Peterson. Harley's become obsessed with watching him on YouTube. 8 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:25,119 Speaker 1: He's the star of a show called Brave Wilderness where 9 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 1: he gets up close and personal and gets stung, bitten, 10 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:33,240 Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff by really venomous creatures. He's 11 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 1: looked at the executioner wasp yep, the Japanese giant hornet yep, 12 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:41,240 Speaker 1: the bullet ant and warrior wasps. He says, the giant 13 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 1: desert centipede is among the worst bites. And I've seen 14 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:48,279 Speaker 1: him being bitten by stonefish. But why well, just to 15 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 1: be able to, he says, I'll describe the pain. And 16 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 1: what he does is he goes ow ow yeah yeah, yeah, okay, 17 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 1: yeah yeah yeah. So you don't actually get much insight 18 00:00:57,600 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: into it. Yeah, I think he just gets off. 19 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 2: He's just in it for the pain. 20 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 1: Speaking of which, been reading about a woman who has 21 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:09,959 Speaker 1: been using the sting of a bee to relieve pain, 22 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 1: and she's become obsessed with it. To the point that 23 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 1: now she has a full blown addiction to bee stings. 24 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 1: She said she has she's got arthritis. I think that's 25 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 1: what it is. And she said she'd read somewhere that 26 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 1: there's some kind of folk medicine to injecting yourself with 27 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 1: bee venom. She said it not only helps the pain, 28 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:31,679 Speaker 1: it boosts her sex life. 29 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 2: Where does she get stung? 30 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 1: She said she's been stinging herself with bees for a decade, 31 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:42,559 Speaker 1: one hundred times a week. And she said, I sting 32 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 1: myself with bees addictively in my hip, and she says, 33 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 1: taken between fifteen and twenty in her left hip, my elbows, 34 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 1: on a finger, on my ankle, my forehead. Everyone gets 35 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 1: arthritis in their forehead and the tip of my nose. 36 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 1: She said, I really love stinging myself with bees. 37 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 2: Right, So how does she attract the bee? 38 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 1: I don't think she goes outside and just lets wild 39 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 1: bees get her. I think she must harvest her own. 40 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 1: She'd have to have a hive, and she'd have to 41 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 1: pull one out one at a time, like that guy 42 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:16,079 Speaker 1: does Coyote Peterson. It doesn't does wander around until a 43 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 1: stonefish gets him, but he isolates it and then deliberately 44 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 1: puts it on him. 45 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:21,519 Speaker 2: But a bee dies. 46 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:23,799 Speaker 1: She must be going through a lot of bees. 47 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 2: That's me. 48 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 3: He comes a bee, Lady, you got bloody Gavin last 49 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 3: week around gets off on it free. 50 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 1: Well, they're saying that there's a reason that people enjoy 51 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:41,920 Speaker 1: the pain. Pain causes a central nervous system to release endorphins, 52 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 1: and these are proteins that act to block pain. Pain 53 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 1: causes the central nervous system to release indorphins or proteins 54 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 1: which act to block pain. And we're in a similar 55 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:55,639 Speaker 1: way to opiates like morphine. And it gives you a 56 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 1: feeling of euphoria. So that helps you get through that moment. 57 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:01,519 Speaker 1: Your body's not expecting Margaret, for example, to do itself. 58 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 1: Do it to itself one hundred times a week. Come on, Margaret, 59 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 1: give it a rest. 60 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 2: Do you like pain? 61 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 3: You know? 62 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:12,080 Speaker 1: I fantasize about being tasted, not for pain, or maybe 63 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 1: maybe for and then it's over. Like you see an 64 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 1: electric fence, I'd be so tempted to put my hand on. 65 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 2: Have you touched an electric fence? 66 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 1: No? 67 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 3: Have you? 68 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:18,959 Speaker 2: Yeah? 69 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 1: Is it painful? 70 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 3: It gives you it's quite disconcerting. It gives you a 71 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 3: pulse runs through your body. It's a mild electric shock. 72 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 3: Well for a cow, it's a mild electric shock. For 73 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 3: a human, it's quite bigger. 74 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a bit bigger. 75 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 1: Did you like it? 76 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 2: No? No? 77 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 3: No. 78 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 1: Did you think I'll go back for more? 79 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 2: No? I didn't go back for more. No. I will 80 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 2: say this thing. Here we go. 81 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 3: When I was a kid, I'm old enough to remember 82 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 3: the days of a Corporal punishment is where they used 83 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 3: to beat. 84 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 2: You at school. 85 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 1: I get that in capital punishments. 86 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 2: That's more vital corporal punishment. 87 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 1: Corporal is where you get whacked at school. 88 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 2: Yep. Capital is when you get killed. 89 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, you went to a tough school, of course, sitting. 90 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 2: Down, lazy, you didn't finish shy periodic table. So that's 91 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 2: what you're going to do. 92 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 1: I'm not electric chair. I'm going to make you stand 93 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 1: up to electric ute you. 94 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 2: So we get the strap at school was a less strap. 95 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 3: Our school got it two foot long and you get 96 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:20,720 Speaker 3: it on the hands. 97 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:21,280 Speaker 1: Like a ruler. 98 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 2: But I think a thick bootstrap. 99 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 3: It was actually made by the local boot maker, so 100 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:27,840 Speaker 3: he knew what he was. 101 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 2: He was making. Yeah, weird. 102 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 3: Anyway, you get the strap, you get four or six and. 103 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 1: You'd hold your hands and you'd get it your palm up. 104 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:41,119 Speaker 2: Yeap, sort of across then on the hand. 105 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 3: And it was interesting. There was there was a few 106 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 3: brothers because I went to a Catholic school. There were 107 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 3: brothers there that were just right bastards with it. They 108 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 3: really got off on it. Then there was a lot 109 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 3: of teachers because towards the end of my. 110 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 1: Schooling starting to change a bit. 111 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 3: They was stopping corporal punishment, and in nineteen eighty four 112 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 3: they OUTLA so it wasn't gonna happen anymore. And so 113 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:04,479 Speaker 3: there was a couple of teachers that weren't into it, 114 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:07,039 Speaker 3: but they still so they do. They Okay, come up here, 115 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 3: you're gonna and they give you an option. You can 116 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 3: write out a thousand times I won't smoke in class, 117 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 3: or you can get four of the best I want 118 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 3: to take. I just give you the four, brother would 119 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 3: you yeah, that's easy, do that on my head. 120 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 1: You'd get one, and would your hand would invariably close up? 121 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:23,480 Speaker 2: No, No, you keep your hand. 122 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 3: If you close your hand up, there was a possibility 123 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:28,599 Speaker 3: when it came back to the second he break your knuckles. 124 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 1: Oh my god. So he would say to you keep 125 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:32,039 Speaker 1: your hand open. 126 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 3: So bang bang bang. And then I started to get 127 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 3: used to that, and i'd get it. I can't imagine why, 128 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 3: but i'd get it a fair bit, and at first 129 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 3: it would hurt like the blazers, but then after a 130 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:46,679 Speaker 3: bit there'd be a nice warm feeling in your hands, 131 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 3: and then I think I became a little. 132 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:51,600 Speaker 2: Bit addicted to it. Possibly that's why I was terrible 133 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 2: at school. 134 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 1: So maybe I should reintroduce it here to stop your 135 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 1: terrible behavior. Maybe you're goading me into doing it. 136 00:05:57,120 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 3: Maybe if you dressed up in say a black PVS 137 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 3: like the priest did at your school. 138 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:05,480 Speaker 2: Just like just like the brothers did. 139 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 1: It is weird you think back that you could whack 140 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 1: kids like that at school, and were there rules they 141 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:11,280 Speaker 1: could only do four or they could do twenty if 142 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:12,160 Speaker 1: they felt like no, it. 143 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:15,359 Speaker 3: Was only four or six six of the best, So 144 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 3: four was like a misdemeanor. 145 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:20,160 Speaker 2: Six was you've cocked up fairly fairly largely. 146 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 1: I mean sixes? Did you get I got a lie? 147 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:22,720 Speaker 2: I reckoon. 148 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 3: There was a period there where I was getting it 149 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 3: pretty much every day, No, seriously, every day. 150 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:29,920 Speaker 1: See the whole point, you try and shape your behavior. 151 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: It obviously didn't work. 152 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 3: I think from the year from year five up to 153 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:37,280 Speaker 3: year eight, No, yeah, I pretty much got it. 154 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 1: Was this when you're getting off, sir, Look what I've done. 155 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 1: I've set fire to my own head. 156 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 2: Look I've gone them weed on your car? What are 157 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 2: you gonna do about it? 158 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 3: That seems to me that's a pretty pretty I think 159 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 3: you go more than six that. 160 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:55,480 Speaker 2: If you wanted to put in eight there, that'd be okay. 161 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 1: And would you go to be down at the local 162 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: boot maker saying mate and put some nails in them? 163 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:03,039 Speaker 3: Matey, I'm not a weider, aren't okay? 164 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 2: Kids? That's it for today. That was Jones and the 165 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 2: man that's cutting room floor. Come back Tom for some 166 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 2: more