Speaker 1: Hey, Legends, Welcome back to The Mason Cox Show. Big episode. Today,
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about show voting, yay or nay. We're
Speaker 1: gonna go into that. There's a lot of comebacks this
Speaker 1: week too. Is this one of the craziest seasons yet?
Speaker 1: I'm not too sure. I thought Carlton was on the
Speaker 1: top two. Like last week it's insane and last we
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about that Collingwood versus Sydney game and
Speaker 1: dissect a bit of what happened. There's a lot in
Speaker 1: this episode, so settle in because we're starting the podcast now.
Speaker 1: All right, legend, it is a big podcast. We're gonna
Speaker 1: get straight into this one. Welcome Brandon.
Speaker 2: Oh, I get as I want to jump into my
Speaker 2: clanger because it's a beautiful I want to say. Every
Speaker 2: team in the AFL is getting the clang this week
Speaker 2: because no one wants to win the flag.
Speaker 1: Oh, come on, not one.
Speaker 2: Team in this competition wants to win the flag because
Speaker 2: no one is willing to step up and grab it.
Speaker 2: At the moment, we're looking at someone like a GWS.
Speaker 2: Maybe Port's going okay, but you know, like their coaches
Speaker 2: were going to get sacked half way through the year.
Speaker 2: Now we're looking at the teams that were flying and
Speaker 2: they're crap. They're all out of the eight. Collingwood, Essendon
Speaker 2: and Carlton were top four a few weeks ago. Now
Speaker 2: where are they. We're looking at Freo. Freo could have
Speaker 2: been second thirty times this year and now I know
Speaker 2: there's not even thirty rounds in it. And that's how
Speaker 2: crap they've managed to be. I just don't understand it.
Speaker 2: People are saying how exciting the year is and how
Speaker 2: exciting the season is, but it's not for any good reason.
Speaker 2: Every team is falling down. We're seeing like the least
Speaker 2: clut Essendon. They go and do a massive comeback last week.
Speaker 2: And I know if you, if you're an Essendon fan,
Speaker 2: I gave you shit last week and there's going to
Speaker 2: be a heap more heaped on you this week because
Speaker 2: bloody how you had a crappy game on the weekend
Speaker 2: And crap is going to be a word I use
Speaker 2: a lot in this podcast. But you go out, you
Speaker 2: come back and you beat Freo last week, We're oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: we're still a chance for finals, and then you kick
Speaker 2: one nine in the last quarter to lose by a
Speaker 2: point after the siren. Oh my goodness, talk about whatever.
Speaker 2: The opposite of clutches, they're the break, they're the break.
Speaker 2: There's the accelerator, there's the clutch, and then there's the break.
Speaker 2: All these teams are just falling off, choking, fumbling the bag.
Speaker 2: No one wants to win the Grand Final this year.
Speaker 2: We should just call it off. We should call it off.
Speaker 2: Sydney has just scraped through on the top of the
Speaker 2: ladder and they've been losing for the last month.
Speaker 1: Are you okay?
Speaker 2: I just grab what's the point of this? What are
Speaker 2: we doing? Why are we here? Go grab a couple
Speaker 2: of sandful teams, a couple of waffle sides and see
Speaker 2: if they want it.
Speaker 1: That's what is coming in.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Tachy could come in and sweep this.
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness.
Speaker 1: Oh it's good to see you're having a great day, Brandon.
Speaker 2: And all these comebacks and stuff, there's like fumbling the bag.
Speaker 2: Inside of fumbling the bag. It's like these teams don't
Speaker 2: want to win the game, but they're also losing from
Speaker 2: thirty points up.
Speaker 1: It's a very unpredictable year, very unpredictable year.
Speaker 2: Crap year, mates, But we sit here and we wait
Speaker 2: till finals and hope that it all turns around in finals,
Speaker 2: because you look at finals and you look at the
Speaker 2: teams that are in there, and you go, I don't
Speaker 2: know who's going to take this thing, but hopefully, hopefully
Speaker 2: it works out for the best. I hope they all
Speaker 2: get it together all in finals and they all stand up,
Speaker 2: because they're all falling over at the moment.
Speaker 1: If you're kicking one to nine and a quarter in finals,
Speaker 1: how are you feeling?
Speaker 2: Oh my, imagine that. I imagine that I couldn't contain
Speaker 2: myself to my seat. I would have to you the
Speaker 2: place I don't have to go and do something. But yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't know. I feel like some fans we give
Speaker 2: them stick for the other week for booing or whatever.
Speaker 2: I think booing is, Like that's showing a fair amount
Speaker 2: of restraints. Like how angry I would be kicking one
Speaker 2: to nine and going down by the OPO team kicking
Speaker 2: two straight goals one after the siren.
Speaker 1: I loved Max Skull. I'm I'm off for as a
Speaker 1: Gold Coast guy. I just I love it.
Speaker 2: You know what he did and he kicked four four
Speaker 2: for the game.
Speaker 1: Absolutely love to talk.
Speaker 2: About clutch, Big Mac, the big Fella.
Speaker 1: Anyway, Well, that's great. Great to know your clanger is
Speaker 1: essentially everyone in the IFL. You're loving the season so far,
Speaker 1: it's been great. I'm assuming a lot of your multis
Speaker 1: have lost. I'm assuming there's some financial for months.
Speaker 2: I haven't been putting them on.
Speaker 1: Well, good, good guy. It's that's that's a great start.
Speaker 1: I'm all going to go with My klanger is not
Speaker 1: going to be IFL. It's actually gonna be related to
Speaker 1: the Olympics. Now in the Olympics all closing ceremonial obviously
Speaker 1: the any of this week, and France had some incredible opportunities.
Speaker 1: Obviously it's in Paris, it's in their big, big city
Speaker 1: there in Paris, and they had men's basketball, they had
Speaker 1: women's basketball, they had the break dancing, which they brought in.
Speaker 1: They decided to say, you know what, we're pretty good
Speaker 1: at this. We're going to actually bring the sport into
Speaker 1: the Olympics so we can guarantee your gold. And then
Speaker 1: they all so had men's soccer, so four of like
Speaker 1: the big team sports that everyone watches, they have like
Speaker 1: very good players and all those different events. They go
Speaker 1: to the Grand Final or the final game of all
Speaker 1: of them. In all four of those they lose, they
Speaker 1: get silver's in. They had a chance to just go
Speaker 1: out on a high out in one of any of
Speaker 1: those four, and they just like you would say, fumbled
Speaker 1: the bag. Yeah, absolutely fumbled the bag. For me, Oh,
Speaker 1: you can't pick a sport.
Speaker 2: It's like when it comes to Australia in a couple
Speaker 2: of Olympics time, if we put afl in there and
Speaker 2: they stitched us up, Bloody Barly beats us.
Speaker 1: Or something.
Speaker 2: Goes yea, they live playing for him. But yeah, I
Speaker 2: don't know. You can't bring in your own sport. And
Speaker 2: while we're on it, the soccer, what's the point of
Speaker 2: that in the Olympics because it's not all the big
Speaker 2: stars are in there. It's like the under twenty ones
Speaker 2: men's B reserve team, like.
Speaker 1: A few stars. There's a few stars, but.
Speaker 2: There's like it's not you're not watching like you know.
Speaker 1: It's the World Cups. They're pinnacle. I do understand that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's kind of like the X Games with the skateboarders.
Speaker 1: I think X Games is probably a bit more than
Speaker 1: gold medals. But anyway, that's mine. France, your suck.
Speaker 2: Most people can get around France. We'll get around that.
Speaker 2: Let's jump into some results. Bad one off the top
Speaker 2: Friday Night forty is Sydney getting the job done over Collingwood.
Speaker 2: We will talk talk about that later, dissected deep dive
Speaker 2: in it. Just live through the pain. Brisbane. Harrow in
Speaker 2: the booth loves this one. Brisbane getting done at home. GWS,
Speaker 2: He's given us the finger behind the scenes. North Melbourne,
Speaker 2: Oh my god, talk about fumbling the bag, but no
Speaker 2: one really caring. North lost to West Coast in tazzy
Speaker 2: talk about the most irrelevant thing you've ever heard in
Speaker 2: your life. Fremantle dropped another one at home, this time
Speaker 2: against the geriatric Geelong team over there. Essendon. I'm just
Speaker 2: so sorry to all the Essendon supporters out there because
Speaker 2: it's going to be another twenty years. Gold Coast get
Speaker 2: their first away win for the year.
Speaker 1: Huge. You did say it was an important one for us.
Speaker 2: I think gold Coast just waited until like this has
Speaker 2: got a Dimmer's got to just be kicking himself in
Speaker 2: the shins because it's like, oh, when can we not
Speaker 2: make finals? All right? Now? Yeah, okay, now we'll win
Speaker 2: an away game. Like do it when it matters anyway. Melbourne,
Speaker 2: Oh my god, kick them. There's fifty one to fifty three,
Speaker 2: go down to Port Adelaide. Not a very exciting shoot
Speaker 2: out that one.
Speaker 1: Carlton, Oh, Carlton, this was wild and it's some die
Speaker 1: or circumstances over there.
Speaker 2: Carlton absolutely flogged by eighty odd points against Hawthorne Hawk
Speaker 2: ball up and about. They replaced them in the top eight,
Speaker 2: Carlton out of the top eight. They were second. The
Speaker 2: other way. Richmond getting flogged by Saint Kilda. We all
Speaker 2: know they've knocked off, which is fine. It's a long
Speaker 2: year knockoff. You just recover Adelaide getting the job done
Speaker 2: over Western Bulldogs. It's not like expect that one. It's
Speaker 2: not like a crazy result because Adelaide's been good this year.
Speaker 2: It's just we thought Western Bulldogs were on a tear.
Speaker 2: So that's a costly little speed bump in the season.
Speaker 1: It was my cock clock of the wig last week.
Speaker 1: So you're welcome everyone out there.
Speaker 2: What did I I don't even remember what I said,
Speaker 2: but it would have been something good.
Speaker 1: Probably. Yeah, let's get into the hot topics. What do
Speaker 1: you got for us? Oh?
Speaker 2: Is this season the wildest end or slash shitt at
Speaker 2: season we've ever seen in footy. I'll let you.
Speaker 1: Just optimism here. This season is wild. I think ever
Speaker 1: since I've come to this country ten years ago, this
Speaker 1: has been the closest I've seen it for the whole
Speaker 1: time I've been here. Like it's just to see, like
Speaker 1: you said, like Carlton was too, I feel like a
Speaker 1: week ago and now they're out of the eight and
Speaker 1: then you're looking at other teams that around the virgin
Speaker 1: Eston you know, there they're not there, then there they're
Speaker 1: not there. And at the beginning of the year they
Speaker 1: were like pretty much a lock. People were saying of
Speaker 1: like top eight were fine making finals, and now people
Speaker 1: are going, I don't know, I don't know. It is
Speaker 1: such an interesting and I'm like, if you just sit
Speaker 1: there and say, like, you know, out of the top
Speaker 1: eight teams right now, you know, obviously we hope that
Speaker 1: Collingwood makes into the eight mex Finals. If you were
Speaker 1: to take us out of there, if I were to say,
Speaker 1: who's going to win besides us, like I have no idea.
Speaker 1: There is not a clear cut favorite like the Sydney
Speaker 1: at the top. They've lost quite a few games as
Speaker 1: of very sense. So you want to have form gone
Speaker 1: in the finals. What's what's got on.
Speaker 2: Like power rankings? If you had like a top five,
Speaker 2: let's go top five power rankings right now, you've got
Speaker 2: to take Collingwood out of it, which is going to
Speaker 2: be hard if you take them out of it. But
Speaker 2: let's take Collingwood out of it, and you've got to
Speaker 2: pick top five.
Speaker 1: Cheez. I would say Brisbane's probably one at the moment.
Speaker 1: Now that's a controversial one because.
Speaker 2: They GWS, who's on a massive.
Speaker 1: Straight they did. I put GWS at two. But the
Speaker 1: thing is WS like they have to play at mcg
Speaker 1: which is an interesting the pretty good travel team, I
Speaker 1: will say, But like I think they're Yeah, they've they've
Speaker 1: lost a few times in finals, you know, and like
Speaker 1: you kind of you look at like Geelong Geelong. I
Speaker 1: almost put like Geelong kind of even with them because
Speaker 1: they kind of got the experience of being able to
Speaker 1: play on the big stage and in finals. So I
Speaker 1: think those are kind of like the teams I'm looking
Speaker 1: up there, probably the top four there and yeah maybe
Speaker 1: that order maybe if you shifted around, But I think
Speaker 1: those are the ones you're looking at going Port Adelaide too.
Speaker 1: I got adelet's port out, let's go to be in there.
Speaker 2: What about Hawthorn.
Speaker 1: They look Hawthorns the most probably momentum team right now
Speaker 1: you can say that comfortably, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well they're beating good teams by big margins.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you'll you'll be interested to find out if
Speaker 1: there's a certain point where their youth becomes a little
Speaker 1: bit detrimental. And you wonder if a team like Geelong
Speaker 1: plays them in the finals or something like that, and
Speaker 1: you go, Okay, Gelong's been here before. I understands the experience,
Speaker 1: understands what to expect and uses that to the advantage.
Speaker 1: I think hawkball's just wild at the moment, Like it's
Speaker 1: not the score of Carlton. Over the weekend, like I was,
Speaker 1: I kind of went to go see a friend on
Speaker 1: Saturday for lunch with one of my mates and he
Speaker 1: he's like sitting there. I got to his place and
Speaker 1: I was riding my bike. I totally messed it up
Speaker 1: and I had to ride my bike through the MCG
Speaker 1: and it was literally probably fifteen twenty minutes before the
Speaker 1: game started. So you can imagine me in about fifty
Speaker 1: to sixty thousand, like Carlton fans going there, and I'm
Speaker 1: just sitting there swerving in and out of these Carlton
Speaker 1: fans and making double looks. Gone like shit, they're gone.
Speaker 1: If you might go back to America, yeh, brick like
Speaker 1: it was just the worst route I probably could have taken. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I stuck to it. I fought the fought the
Speaker 1: season Carlton fans. I got to my destination. But yeah,
Speaker 1: it's Jesus an interesting one. It is one of the
Speaker 1: craziest seasons. I honestly have no idea how it's going
Speaker 1: to finish, which makes it I think great for the AFL.
Speaker 1: Probably not great for their bank account, but great for
Speaker 1: the AFL in that sense to have. You know, I
Speaker 1: think I was looking at the top eight and there's
Speaker 1: quite a few other kind of teams that are outside
Speaker 1: of Melbourne that they probably want to try to promote,
Speaker 1: Like you look at Sydney Port, Adelaide, j w as
Speaker 1: these that they've camp has been, you know, teams they
Speaker 1: want to kind of show that their expansion through the
Speaker 1: rest of the country is successful.
Speaker 2: It's going to be a wild result because like if
Speaker 2: you look at the combinations as it stands as the
Speaker 2: top eight stands right now, which is probably not how
Speaker 2: it's going to finish. There's some shocking combos in there
Speaker 2: for attendance for like a prelim or a Grand Final.
Speaker 2: Like yeah, I don't know, I don't know if they're
Speaker 2: happy or upset they get to grow the game outside
Speaker 2: of Victoria because there's not a lot of like great
Speaker 2: Victorian representation in there, but something like a Sydney GWS
Speaker 2: Granny they would probably be happy with to grow it
Speaker 2: up there. I can't imagine like a Port GWS or
Speaker 2: like a Port Hawthorne or something would be doing good numbers.
Speaker 1: But I will see how so man time will tell, We'll.
Speaker 2: See how it goes. This weekend was the weekend of
Speaker 2: the comeback and we've been seeing it a lot, but
Speaker 2: a lot of teams coming from behind. We saw Brisbane
Speaker 2: get run over by GWS they were up by five goals.
Speaker 2: Obviously the Collingwood game. There was a lot of these
Speaker 2: comeback wins by massive margins, big five six goal margins
Speaker 2: over the past few weeks. Why are we seeing more
Speaker 2: and more of this in the game.
Speaker 1: I think probably since the six six to six change.
Speaker 1: You can kind of see it because it's a lot
Speaker 1: of it's like center balance momentum, Like if you can
Speaker 1: gain territory from center bounce very quickly and you kind
Speaker 1: of get on top of that area for a chunk
Speaker 1: of time, it just allows you to gain territories so quickly.
Speaker 1: And then because it's even numbers, you kind of have
Speaker 1: that that chance of being able to score pretty quickly.
Speaker 1: So like back in the day, you used to just
Speaker 1: flood ten people in the back lines, like well, good luck.
Speaker 1: It's almost impossible to try to get a decent kick
Speaker 1: of the ball with you that many people around you.
Speaker 1: But now I feel like if you score one and
Speaker 1: then you get out of the center butts again, you
Speaker 1: can get like two, three pretty quickly, and it just
Speaker 1: kind of gives you the opportunity where back in the
Speaker 1: day it was like you just kind of flood people
Speaker 1: behind and the more the game is like stopped and stuff,
Speaker 1: the more people they kind of put behind the ball,
Speaker 1: and the harder it is to actually score. So I
Speaker 1: think once you kind of have that stop age, you
Speaker 1: go six x' six, and it's like if you don't
Speaker 1: score bang right after that, then might slow down the
Speaker 1: pace a bit. But these teams are going like bang score,
Speaker 1: bang score, bank score. It's because they're getting out of
Speaker 1: the center balance and getting into the forward line with
Speaker 1: I guess a better chance of scoring with less defenders
Speaker 1: there than whenever a team you know, is trying to
Speaker 1: flood back flood back numbers. So I think that's the
Speaker 1: reason why. Obviously over the weekend we kind of felt
Speaker 1: that and weren't able to get over the line. But
Speaker 1: it lasts from exciting football, I think, which is a
Speaker 1: good thing but frustrating for me at the moment.
Speaker 2: And I think Sydney are one of the best at it.
Speaker 2: They got so many dynamic midfielders that are just brute
Speaker 2: force and pace. Well we talk about like Warner and
Speaker 2: Heeny and these guys who had massive last quarters for Sydney. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and it feels like a lot of the stars like
Speaker 2: Zach Butters and Horny Frank, like some of those port
Speaker 2: players like they stick in my mind. A lot of
Speaker 2: these players straight from the rock tap, coming straight out
Speaker 2: of the front of stoppage and can just like pump
Speaker 2: it in. It's yeah. That and I feel like the
Speaker 2: stand rule has just put so much speed on the game.
Speaker 2: So you've got to be able to run out games teams,
Speaker 2: can you know. I thought Collingwood on the weekend really
Speaker 2: busted us early to put on that pressure, and as
Speaker 2: the game went on, I was like, like, I hope
Speaker 2: they can maintain it throughout the whole game.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you are just absolutely gassed or what,
Speaker 2: but it like we just see it more and more
Speaker 2: and more if you're under the pump later.
Speaker 1: In games, like there's just to turn the momentum now, yeah,
Speaker 1: it really is. The best you can do is mostly
Speaker 1: is just stim it and then try to change it
Speaker 1: in your direction. But it's not like I don't feel
Speaker 1: like your team scores four and then it's like the
Speaker 1: other team scores four again against right up after them,
Speaker 1: right Like it's kind of for maybe one or two
Speaker 1: and then one, then one or two. It's not like
Speaker 1: four goals, four goals, five goals, five goals. It's yeah too,
Speaker 1: you're kicking a bunch and the other team's not kicking macho,
Speaker 1: you're somewhat even pale.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And yeah, that's why if Carlton could somehow make finals. Now,
Speaker 2: if they rally and win these last two, make it
Speaker 2: back in there. As we saw last year. It just
Speaker 2: they can be out of it and then their fans,
Speaker 2: the cheer, the roar of the Carlton fans can just
Speaker 2: bring them straight back into it. We saw it with
Speaker 2: Collingwood moving on though, because there's a lot of old
Speaker 2: dogs getting around the competition playing some really good footy
Speaker 2: at the moment. And we see games increasing overall, big numbers,
Speaker 2: a lot of two hundred and fifty game celebration, Pendal's
Speaker 2: four hundred game celebration. Is the age of players on
Speaker 2: average just going to keep increasing over time?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's I don't think just in the AFL,
Speaker 1: I think in support in general. Yeah, I mean, I
Speaker 1: think you look at the availability of kind of a
Speaker 1: and the knowledge that we're getting around bodies and how
Speaker 1: to kind of you know, have supplements to help you
Speaker 1: kind of you know, with your aches and pains and
Speaker 1: things like that. Like there's so much I think, like
Speaker 1: medically we've been able to further ourselves. There's a society
Speaker 1: and anything else to be able to help people, you know,
Speaker 1: live longer. I think, like just a general, like the
Speaker 1: life expectancy of people is actually longer and longer and
Speaker 1: longer every year ago, So I think it's kind of
Speaker 1: similar and probably aligns with you know, people's athletic you know,
Speaker 1: journeys and how long that lasts. So yeah, I think
Speaker 1: it would be pretty normal to be seeing people, you know,
Speaker 1: playing three hundred games in a career. A lot of
Speaker 1: it comes down to a little like quite a bit
Speaker 1: of luck and like injuries that are long term, like
Speaker 1: some people have like an ACL or you know, other
Speaker 1: people just have. Yeah, there's there's some that you know,
Speaker 1: like just don't get injured, and there's some people that
Speaker 1: just can't not get injured. Right. I think of like
Speaker 1: so many people that I've known throughout my career. It's
Speaker 1: like you hear about all the great stories, right, you
Speaker 1: hear about all the people that play the Moliple games,
Speaker 1: and you know, all the milestones and stuff. But every
Speaker 1: one of those, there's probably twenty people that just like
Speaker 1: never got a good run at it and just kept
Speaker 1: getting injuries at the wrong time or whatever it was,
Speaker 1: or maybe wasn't under the coaching staff or whatever it
Speaker 1: may be. And for every one successful one, there's probably
Speaker 1: twenty that just don't really pay out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the professionalism of the kids coming through
Speaker 2: now is like next level because you think of back
Speaker 2: when Pendles first started in the game, kids coming through
Speaker 2: weren't prepared for it at all. I remember Tim Burman,
Speaker 2: form a teammate of yours, when they would take the
Speaker 2: draftees to the supermarket to grab They said, you go
Speaker 2: out there and grab what you think is a good, responsible,
Speaker 2: nutritious meal and then we'll course correct. And he came
Speaker 2: back with like a full trolley full of like fiery
Speaker 2: Cheetos and sufdern And it's like howiry cheetahs that bar
Speaker 2: off And it's just like, yeah, I feel like kids
Speaker 2: now are coming in so well, I reckon there'll be
Speaker 2: a bit of a lag period from like Pendle's time,
Speaker 2: and then as as these kids come in and they're
Speaker 2: just you know, rare and to go, the same players
Speaker 2: hit the scene like and playing great Foot in year
Speaker 2: one and two, like.
Speaker 1: There's not there's there's less people that can just get
Speaker 1: away with, you know, doing the minimum like it is
Speaker 1: is getting to that point where if you're not fully
Speaker 1: like committed to it, you're just gonna get spat out
Speaker 1: of the system. Whereas like back in the day, I
Speaker 1: feel like if you're just that good of a talent
Speaker 1: you can just kind of get by with it probably yeah,
Speaker 1: but nowadays with you know, well you said, like everyone
Speaker 1: that's able to kind of get these one percents from
Speaker 1: you know, different things that now are able to have
Speaker 1: knowledge of They're able to extend their you know, their
Speaker 1: lifetime in the league and you know, maybe be able
Speaker 1: to jump over the guys that are just naturally gifted.
Speaker 2: Talking about kids, I want to speak about taunting and
Speaker 2: show voting in the AFL. I for one love it.
Speaker 2: It's not only the kids. We see a lot of
Speaker 2: Sam Draper did the hand in the Talker's man, the
Speaker 2: Turkish Man. There was I think there was like three
Speaker 2: of them over the course of the weekend. Even Pendals,
Speaker 2: old dog Pendals is doing a little taunts and.
Speaker 1: High school team coaching I think or whatever.
Speaker 2: But it's like more and more is coming into the AFL.
Speaker 2: It's it's it's crazy, but it's awesome that the kids
Speaker 2: feel comfortable to do it, like from game one, like
Speaker 2: to see him out there, like just bringing excitement to
Speaker 2: the game. Do you reckon? Do you reckon? The taunting
Speaker 2: and the showboating post goal and all that stuff. We'll
Speaker 2: only see more and more of it as as we
Speaker 2: go along. It seems very American culture driven.
Speaker 1: I love it. I definitely do. I think the AFL
Speaker 1: probably you know, enjoys it, but the top dogs of
Speaker 1: the AFL probably don't. I think there's like like, at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, we are entertainers. We got
Speaker 1: there to entertain people, and like that is part of entertainment.
Speaker 1: Is like doing things that are different outside of just
Speaker 1: the normal like kicking a go walk back to center bouts, right, Like,
Speaker 1: I just think there's so much more and there's so
Speaker 1: much passion with the players and involved, and it just
Speaker 1: adds to the game, like it adds to it. Like
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people look at Guinea right
Speaker 1: and they go, oh, well, you know, I know who
Speaker 1: Jack Inovan is, And I'm like, do you know them
Speaker 1: because of the way it plays, are because of the
Speaker 1: aura that is Jack in it. And I think people
Speaker 1: probably don't really realize that, like they follow him because
Speaker 1: of the aura that he is. And I'm all formal.
Speaker 1: I think it's like it just adds to the whole experience.
Speaker 1: And yeah, you get taunted every single game over the
Speaker 1: fence and it's like, why can't you give it back?
Speaker 1: Like I just don't as long as it's within like
Speaker 1: societal yeah, okayness whenever it comes to these things, right,
Speaker 1: there's obviously things you can't say and do, but there's
Speaker 1: so much that goes on beyond the fence, and you're
Speaker 1: sitting there and you're supposed to just cop it and
Speaker 1: just sit there in your box and not do anything.
Speaker 1: It's like, no, I can give it back to him,
Speaker 1: like they're gonna be assholes, like screw it stuff, give
Speaker 1: it back to it. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think it really speaks to the kids watching the game.
Speaker 2: They love it, they know it, they learn it from school,
Speaker 2: they have access to social media where they see it
Speaker 2: every day. So I feel like it'll it'll be a
Speaker 2: chance to grow the game. You speak about Jack Ginevan
Speaker 2: and knowing him outside of footy, there's people that wouldn't
Speaker 2: watch footy and would know Jack Ginevan. There's people that
Speaker 2: are outside footy and would know Bailey Smith like that.
Speaker 2: It's a great way to make the AFL superstars even
Speaker 2: bigger and like broader than just the game of AFL.
Speaker 1: So I think, like Durzma from likes like bonn Era, Yeah,
Speaker 1: like there's not detrimental to anyone. There's nothing to doing else,
Speaker 1: but you know who celebration that is, Yeah, and that's cool.
Speaker 1: It's cool to have something that's like purely specific to you,
Speaker 1: Like I think people do the USA chance. It's like
Speaker 1: that's very specific to myself. And like someone that goes
Speaker 1: to a game is going to go, oh, like he
Speaker 1: must have kicked the goal because they're chanting that, or
Speaker 1: like that must have been Dursmo because he did there
Speaker 1: like bown Era, right, Like it's kind of cool to
Speaker 1: have like individual uniqueness about each player that's playing out there,
Speaker 1: and hopefully the AFL continues to encourage it.
Speaker 2: Now, speaking about the AFL, we did talk about Malais
Speaker 2: last week, and we weren't big on the promotion of
Speaker 2: them after the fact because the fine system is brought
Speaker 2: in to d incentivized players from getting into malas. Now,
Speaker 2: there was another big one on the weekend, A great one,
Speaker 2: A juicy one, juicy one. I know it was juicy
Speaker 2: because it was up there on the AFL website, so
Speaker 2: I watched it because I missed it in the game,
Speaker 2: so I got to watch it on the website and
Speaker 2: then I just went around Molven just shaking people and
Speaker 2: jumper punching them.
Speaker 1: No, I didn't.
Speaker 2: I didn't do that. I haven't taken it off into
Speaker 2: everyday life. But you come from a lot of big
Speaker 2: fins dished out, So forty two and a half thousand dollars.
Speaker 1: In fines, forty two and a half thousand dollars.
Speaker 2: That'll come down to a nice small, neat little number
Speaker 2: twenty seven thousand, five hundred dollars if they all played guilty.
Speaker 2: So obviously another big kickback. But we did ask where
Speaker 2: the money goes, because you know, we assume it goes
Speaker 2: straight to the Christmas party. To have my doubts, but
Speaker 2: there was an article written a couple of weeks ago
Speaker 2: on the AFL website that did say that all fines
Speaker 2: donations to the AFL, and they're given to concussion research
Speaker 2: on behalf of the players. So to look after yourself,
Speaker 2: you're doing your own concussion research by donating money back
Speaker 2: into concussion research off the fine.
Speaker 1: I would love to know how much they're donating the
Speaker 1: concussion research.
Speaker 2: Last year it was over two hundred thousand dollars.
Speaker 1: Now, according to this we're donating forty two and a
Speaker 1: half thousand dollars in one round that might just be
Speaker 1: us covering their bill.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I wonder how much they need. It's one
Speaker 2: of those like when you're like, order, who's.
Speaker 1: More invested technically? If you're taking fines from us and
Speaker 1: putting in towards it, who's more invested in concussions?
Speaker 2: Go, I watch your budget for this, and it's like, oh,
Speaker 2: we've got two hundred thousand. Oh yeah, it's going to
Speaker 2: cost two hundred thousand. That's one of those jobs. But
Speaker 2: just for those people wondering where the money does go,
Speaker 2: it actually.
Speaker 1: Actually goes a good thing. It goes, so I appreciate, right,
Speaker 1: which is good. Yeah, we don't get to choose the spot,
Speaker 1: but yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's good. It's good. Anyway, we move on to
Speaker 2: the we move on to the big winners, and I
Speaker 2: don't there's a couple of big winners this week. I
Speaker 2: don't know if there was a bigger one than Hawthorne.
Speaker 2: They moved into the eighth after being on quite a
Speaker 2: win streak. Obviously, they went zero to five or whatever
Speaker 2: at the start of the season, so they're on the
Speaker 2: back foot. Gave everyone in the competition a head start.
Speaker 2: Now they're in the eight after knocking Carlton out by
Speaker 2: beating them by eighty odd points, absolutely annihilated them both
Speaker 2: on the scoreboard, and you know they're playing list Carldon
Speaker 2: came out of that with a hell of a lot
Speaker 2: of injuries. I want to know, do you think that
Speaker 2: they're the scariest team outside the top four at the moment.
Speaker 1: I think they're the scariest team that teams might look past.
Speaker 2: Like if you were in the top four, you lose
Speaker 2: your first final, you have to go into the second
Speaker 2: semi or whatever the hell it's called noway yea, and
Speaker 2: you had the verse hawthor.
Speaker 1: On, you be gone. I hope that they don't get
Speaker 1: on top of us early. They're oh my gosh, hell yeah,
Speaker 1: they're scary. Like if you're sitting there at this team
Speaker 1: that's just lost a bit of confidence and momentum from
Speaker 1: you know, losing you know, a top four match, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you'd be a bit nervous going into that game because
Speaker 1: they are the team that's inform, Like they're the ones
Speaker 1: that have this momentum going and there's anything as possible
Speaker 1: and they have the utmost confidence right now. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: it's it's great to see, Like I'd love to say
Speaker 1: it's entertaining as hell. Yeah if you yeah, if you're
Speaker 1: lining up against them, like you're going into that team
Speaker 1: meeting as a coach, going do not take these guys
Speaker 1: for granted.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, it's going to be very interesting because obviously
Speaker 2: we don't know. They're obviously a young ass team, a
Speaker 2: lot of inexperience, so we don't know how they will
Speaker 2: perform on the final stage. At this point in time,
Speaker 2: they've answered most of the questions asked of them.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, ya over the weekend. That was the
Speaker 1: BIGGES statement. I think they've had all you Yeah.
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's going to be interesting to see if
Speaker 2: they you know, if they shine under the bright lights
Speaker 2: of finals or not. But you know they're going to
Speaker 2: make it first. But they're in a pretty good position
Speaker 2: as it stands GWS. Another big winner from the weekend
Speaker 2: went to Brisbane and beat Brisbane who was on a
Speaker 2: nine game winning streak. They came from behind again. Giants
Speaker 2: have done that a couple of times now to end
Speaker 2: the streak at nine.
Speaker 1: Pretty impressive. Are they like away game? Like I said,
Speaker 1: jerrys actually plays really well away.
Speaker 2: And they flag favorites for me at the moment you
Speaker 2: said you've got Brisbane as your number one seed. I'd
Speaker 2: have to challenge that with GWS. They won. They just
Speaker 2: beat them at the Gabba to knock off their nine
Speaker 2: game win streak. Brisbane they're still like shaky a little
Speaker 2: bit in their back half and then GWS fourd half
Speaker 2: Jesse Hogan, you could do anything. Toby Grant's coming in
Speaker 2: to form the Cadman. They said, the cad boy turned
Speaker 2: into the Cadman over the weekend. It was. It was
Speaker 2: a very impressive win and ended up doing it semi comfortably,
Speaker 2: like they were behind by a few. They kicked what
Speaker 2: was it, how many goals in the last quarter. It
Speaker 2: was one goal, two or something to six goals or
Speaker 2: four goals or something late in the last. So yeah,
Speaker 2: they ended up running over Brisbane late in the last
Speaker 2: I feel like I've got them as flag favorites. They've
Speaker 2: had enough.
Speaker 1: Halfway through the year. You were about to jump off
Speaker 1: the band.
Speaker 2: Which you were so almost isn't jumping off? I gave
Speaker 2: them a rocket. And what you should be this is you.
Speaker 2: This is the journalist in you, This is the AFL
Speaker 2: media journalist in you. What the article headline should stay
Speaker 2: is loyal Cox sticks with gs Grady Sydney Western. Anyway,
Speaker 2: my boys, the Greater Western Sydney Giants, the big, big
Speaker 2: sound I reckon they're the scariest team in the camp
Speaker 2: right now and if they can do it at the
Speaker 2: Gabber against Brisbane, I feel like they can do it
Speaker 2: against anyone anywhere, anytime.
Speaker 1: They're going to be a force, that's for sure. Over
Speaker 1: the next month they're going to be an absolute force.
Speaker 1: The biggest thing is just staying healthy going into it
Speaker 1: so they can just continue to do that. Am I
Speaker 1: putting the chinks out there?
Speaker 2: No of the headline because we moved straight into Geelong
Speaker 2: and it's very Collingwood esque. Ah, Geelong too old, too slow?
Speaker 2: Are they going to do damage in finals? Because at
Speaker 2: the moment they're in decent form yep. But if you're
Speaker 2: watching the games, you're looking at Jeremy Cameron just absolutely
Speaker 2: dragging them across the line, and you're looking at Dangerfield
Speaker 2: doing it from the midfield and sneaking forward, kicking some
Speaker 2: clutch goals. Old dogs now we know geting them along.
Speaker 2: We know Danger has some injury concerns and he's kind
Speaker 2: of hopefully he's gotten over that he could take his
Speaker 2: time this year and get his get himself back well.
Speaker 2: Jeremy Cameron start the year pretty good, then had a
Speaker 2: slow patch, but he's well and truly back into form
Speaker 2: at the moment. So I feel like it's closely tied
Speaker 2: to those two senior players.
Speaker 1: You could say so, yeah, but do you reckon they
Speaker 1: can go all the way? Yes? I think their biggest
Speaker 1: kind of advantage between them and the rest of the
Speaker 1: competition is their experience, obviously, and I think when it
Speaker 1: comes to those big games, big game moments, being able
Speaker 1: to handle the pressure of a close game in a
Speaker 1: winner go home would definitely put them in good I
Speaker 1: mean like that that's you know, if Jazz goes down
Speaker 1: like yeah, I mean call it like you're done, I
Speaker 1: don't know how they're going to be able to recover
Speaker 1: from that. So it's kind of one of those things
Speaker 1: where it is. I mean, they're obviously a very good
Speaker 1: team at the top eight right now and in playing well,
Speaker 1: but they're one step for injury away from like the
Speaker 1: whole thing being shaken up. So as long as they
Speaker 1: stay healthy, their chance to yeah, their chances anyone else.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what about Tom Hawkins interesting situation they've got, he's
Speaker 2: fighting for fitness, he's back at training now. We know
Speaker 2: it's his last year, but he's not calling it immediately
Speaker 2: like Dusty. So there's a few things to go into this.
Speaker 2: If he's not one hundred percent, say he's eighty percent. Firstly,
Speaker 2: do you play him in that last game in Geelong
Speaker 2: against West Coast for a potential sendoff game?
Speaker 1: M No, No, I've wait till finals.
Speaker 2: Okay, so you're waiting till finals, but.
Speaker 1: Then you had the sendoff thing, yeah, because you won't
Speaker 1: play it. You might not play another home game.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Interesting, Yeah, and he might get up for finals.
Speaker 2: Do you bring him back for finals? What percentage does
Speaker 2: he have to be out for you to bring him
Speaker 2: back for finals? Hawkins at eighty percent? Is Hawkins at
Speaker 2: ninety percent good enough to get back into the team
Speaker 2: for finals?
Speaker 1: I think seventy five? Honest with you, I mean, like,
Speaker 1: he's not a guy that's, you know, doing what Jess
Speaker 1: is doing, going all the way up the ground and
Speaker 1: coming all the way back. Like he's a person that
Speaker 1: like if he isn't one hundred percent, you can still
Speaker 1: put him as the deepest man. Just tell him to
Speaker 1: like body up whoever it is, and he can be
Speaker 1: dangerous in that sense, right, So I think you look
Speaker 1: at like seventy five percent, you'd be like, yeah, like
Speaker 1: you at seventy or five percent, or he'll probably give
Speaker 1: us enough for us to find it worthwhile to play you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he would be a scary opponent. They've got some
Speaker 2: young forwards up there. But if you're going into a
Speaker 2: final and you're standing next to big Tom Hawkins, big hulking.
Speaker 1: Dude, he's got to bring the biggest defender. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: then I allow someone else maybe open up Like it's
Speaker 1: he causes an issue because he is so large like
Speaker 1: and how he can be able to manipulate his body
Speaker 1: to be able to kind of get to the drop
Speaker 1: of the ball and push people off it. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I lookly like seventy five percent. You're playing him, and
Speaker 1: then it.
Speaker 2: Comes to matchups because if you can see weakness, if
Speaker 2: he can't run and you can run and spread off him,
Speaker 2: that's just another thing that you've got to take into consideration.
Speaker 2: It's going to be an interesting final series. We talk
Speaker 2: about Port Adelaide now they are going so low under
Speaker 2: the radar. No one's talking about Port Ken Hinkley's over there,
Speaker 2: just getting it done. They were very loud when Port
Speaker 2: were shit. They all the media. Everyone loves to call
Speaker 2: for people's heads. But as soon as they're good, and
Speaker 2: they are absolutely cherry ripe and flying at the moment.
Speaker 2: They just came over here and they beat Melbourne. I
Speaker 2: know Melbourne's a bit banged up and low, but this
Speaker 2: was Melbourne season on the line and they got the
Speaker 2: job done. So they are prime for a good run
Speaker 2: at it. They got the valuable win at the MCG
Speaker 2: because not a lot of these interstate teams get games
Speaker 2: at the MCG full stop. Let alone come over here
Speaker 2: and win one. But they just seem to have the
Speaker 2: players that have the urgency to win these games, to
Speaker 2: stand up. You got Butters, you got Horny Frank, You've
Speaker 2: got a bunch in there, Rosie and whoever there's The board.
Speaker 2: Line's pretty stacked. Yeah, so they bolstered their defense as well.
Speaker 2: They got Alira Lear back there a while back. Now,
Speaker 2: they got Zurch thatcher, so they're pretty much set around
Speaker 2: the ground and they've got a fair bit of experience.
Speaker 2: They're not a young team. They're more of a middle
Speaker 2: team based with the other teams that are running around
Speaker 2: out there. So I feel like Kenny Hinckley's got these
Speaker 2: boys up and firing at the perfect time to have
Speaker 2: him cherry right going into fun.
Speaker 1: And we love it. Weally love Ken Hinkley. It's just
Speaker 1: like there's something about it because it's just I think
Speaker 1: I love it even more because Port fans are just
Speaker 1: so fricking ruthless, like just absolutely assholes to their team,
Speaker 1: Like if they lose, they're one of the worst supporter
Speaker 1: base as far as like supporting through thick and thin.
Speaker 1: I feel like and the fact that they're going, Wow,
Speaker 1: it's just kind of like this whole thing of everyone
Speaker 1: was like on the back, like, man, we got fire,
Speaker 1: can we gotta do this? We gotta redo the whole place,
Speaker 1: you know, we got what's his name, KOCHI left, you know,
Speaker 1: and we're like, oh, it's a new we gotta do
Speaker 1: a new generation and shit whatever it is. And now
Speaker 1: they're winning and they're like, oh, well, maybe I was wrong,
Speaker 1: Maybe just maybe they jumped again a little bit too.
Speaker 2: And I feel like you look at Port fans and
Speaker 2: they're frustrated, they don't have anything to be shitty.
Speaker 1: Yes, they're mad that they don't have something to be
Speaker 1: mad about. And I'm like, mate, you live an Adelaide Gee, sorry,
Speaker 1: sorry Adelaid people. It's a lovely place, just beautiful places.
Speaker 2: Still the big winners, so you've got to be grinning
Speaker 2: at the moment. We talk about the big losers because
Speaker 2: there's none bigger loser this weekend than the obvious and
Speaker 2: we talked about them last week because they haven't played
Speaker 2: a final, they haven't won a final. And you know,
Speaker 2: half over half my life, there's been players that are
Speaker 2: running out there that have never seen them win a final.
Speaker 2: We talk about it every week. But Essendon they find
Speaker 2: a new way to disappoint their fan base every single week.
Speaker 2: And this one was an absolute pearlo because if you
Speaker 2: had to script it beforehand, you couldn't have written this
Speaker 2: because they go into the last quarter they're doing well.
Speaker 2: They kick one goal nine, they have ten shots at goal.
Speaker 2: They probably had more, they probably kicked more out in
Speaker 2: the full but they kicked one nine. We had Stringer
Speaker 2: kicked three points in the last quarter. Oh my goodness.
Speaker 2: They were looking so good before that and all the
Speaker 2: Gold Coast had to do was kicked two goals in
Speaker 2: the last quarter and one They couldn't even keep it
Speaker 2: in between the sirens. They had to kick one after
Speaker 2: the siren to get the job done. Big Mac Andrew
Speaker 2: goes back, takes a Mark goes back. The best part
Speaker 2: about it is it looks like it's missing early. People
Speaker 2: in the top tier go up celebrating and then it
Speaker 2: bends straight back in. It gives them the shush running
Speaker 2: into the pocket and I just I don't even know.
Speaker 2: We talked about it last week that they are normally
Speaker 2: just devoid of old joy and anything going into these games.
Speaker 2: I don't even think any of them were surprised it happened.
Speaker 2: It cut to the crowd and they were like, oh, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's pretty standard. Then they're like packing up their bags
Speaker 2: and stuff and on their way home.
Speaker 1: It's so sad. You have to feel for us, and
Speaker 1: in fans you have to feel for them, like it's
Speaker 1: so it would be so frustrating. So frush are you
Speaker 1: get into the last quarter and have that that score
Speaker 1: of one nine to two zero and you're thinking, like
Speaker 1: it's the hope. I think it's the hope that gets
Speaker 1: you run. It's the oh man, like this is our year.
Speaker 1: Every time, every start of the year, this is our
Speaker 1: year and they've got this just unbiased, just like go
Speaker 1: go for it, hope, and then you just see it
Speaker 1: just get cut down and cut down and cut down
Speaker 1: until you get to this time of year and they've
Speaker 1: just lost all self respect. They're throwing their scarf out
Speaker 1: on the on the field. It's they're burning their memberships.
Speaker 1: And then the funny thing that it always gets me
Speaker 1: next year, it's back, baby, It's back to yourself. Do
Speaker 1: you know to blame but yourself?
Speaker 2: How do you get that membership pack in the mail?
Speaker 2: You pull out that nice crisp sticker that's gonna say
Speaker 2: Essendon Season twenty twenty five. How do you appeel the
Speaker 2: back off that bad boy and stick it to the
Speaker 2: back of your car and then drive around with that
Speaker 2: thing on all year knowing it's gonna.
Speaker 1: Be big off the stickers if the team goes bad.
Speaker 1: I don't know, people just go, oh, maybe I don't
Speaker 1: want to promote that I'm a member.
Speaker 2: This year I saw someone rolling around with twenty Essendon
Speaker 2: stickers on the back of their car.
Speaker 1: One.
Speaker 2: They've got a very durable car, car's gone a lot
Speaker 2: of years, that's done a lot.
Speaker 1: Of clicks too.
Speaker 2: That is a very resilient person driving that thing. So
Speaker 2: I don't know, I feel bad for you guys. There
Speaker 2: was an extra one. Draper was kicking them from everywhere.
Speaker 2: He ran from a stoppage, took a bounce, kicked one
Speaker 2: from fifty, great celebration, another one just after, kicked a
Speaker 2: set shot, did the Turkish Man gun celebration. Then went
Speaker 2: on to miss two absolute sodas in the last quarter.
Speaker 2: Just all these things that add up the last one,
Speaker 2: we can't not talk about it. Gresham pushed his opponent
Speaker 2: in the back, ball fell to him. He didn't hear
Speaker 2: the whistle. He runs right into the goals, kicks it
Speaker 2: through the goal, celebrates his high five and all the
Speaker 2: blokes in the crowd and they call it back push
Speaker 2: in the back? What are you doing? Lucky not to
Speaker 2: get a fifty pen didn't matter in the end, because
Speaker 2: big Mac Andrew goes down the other end.
Speaker 1: Kicks It's Mac Andrew. He's a legend. He's a great story.
Speaker 1: Incredible stories to go from patal story, Yeah, back to Ford.
Speaker 1: I remember playing on it. He's an athletic freak. He
Speaker 1: can jump out of the ship. I'm that man, And yeah,
Speaker 1: it was it was great to see him own that
Speaker 1: moment and be able to make the most of it.
Speaker 1: And once again, Sorryident.
Speaker 2: Now that we've got that out of the way, let's
Speaker 2: speed run a couple of these other losers free. Oh,
Speaker 2: the ultimate bag fumblers this year, they could have been
Speaker 2: second probably around three times, at least two, and they
Speaker 2: gone on to lose. They lost to Essen and then
Speaker 2: they go Geelong at home lose to them. Now they
Speaker 2: make it very high themselves to even make finals, which
Speaker 2: is crazy to think. They have to beat GWS next
Speaker 2: week in Sydney, which is no easy feat, and then
Speaker 2: they have to beat Port in Perth last round that
Speaker 2: could be to make finals.
Speaker 1: That's wild.
Speaker 2: That's not a situation you want to be putting yourself in.
Speaker 2: So not only did they fumble the bag and screw
Speaker 2: up a home finals chance and a double chance at finals,
Speaker 2: they've really cost themselves and could be losing their spot
Speaker 2: inside the eight. Brisbane. You know, it's pretty hard to
Speaker 2: give them the big losers, but I'm going to give
Speaker 2: it to them just because the slide. They went from
Speaker 2: second to fifth, so they dropped out of the top
Speaker 2: four and they kicked one goal four to six goals
Speaker 2: in the last to get overrun. Lost by three goals.
Speaker 2: So that's a real unfortunate one for Brisbane. But they
Speaker 2: still are. They're up there. They're a strong team. West
Speaker 2: In Bulldogs. Not a crazy loss, but just costly for
Speaker 2: their ladder position. Could have done great things, could have
Speaker 2: jumped up the team.
Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of people have said they're
Speaker 1: an easy win, but I was looking at all the
Speaker 1: games of stuff, most of them are like within ten points. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it is actually like they're not a walkover team that
Speaker 1: people think they are.
Speaker 2: And I feel like they're so close to getting it
Speaker 2: to click right. I thought this season was going to
Speaker 2: be better, a bit inconsistent, but it's just another season
Speaker 2: under their belt. They still got really young players outside
Speaker 2: of text Walker, who's one hundred and fifty years old
Speaker 2: but still doing good things. But yeah, the fog. I
Speaker 2: saw the fog play on the weekend and I there's
Speaker 2: some good There's some good things. Is like cracking the
Speaker 2: first tin on like a sunny Sunday afternoon, one of
Speaker 2: the great things out there.
Speaker 1: Mowing the lawn, nailing a parallel park.
Speaker 2: Just all of those things, and then above all of
Speaker 2: those watching the fog kick a set shot goal. He's
Speaker 2: just crispy flewid action, doesn't even look like he kicks
Speaker 2: it hard and it goes sixty meters. It's just a
Speaker 2: delicious thing to just watch from afar and admire. I
Speaker 2: couldn't kick over a jamped in. I saw some of
Speaker 2: your kicks on the weekend. Jeez, jamped In. I don't know.
Speaker 2: You couldn't kick over an a four piece of paper.
Speaker 2: Let's jump straight into this because instead of just calling
Speaker 2: him a big loser, we'll go straight into the Collingwood
Speaker 2: segment because it was rough for everyone. It's rough for everyone.
Speaker 2: I want to just off the top. Let's go into therapy.
Speaker 1: Let's go to therapy. What happened, ah man? We played
Speaker 1: well for three quarters and then Sydney came home hat
Speaker 1: and Isaac Keeney just decided to be everywhere everywhere legitimately,
Speaker 1: I don't know how. I don't know he multiplied, had
Speaker 1: a few twins out there or something or what. But
Speaker 1: every time I looked up, somehow the balls sitting there
Speaker 1: right next to him just getting into his hands.
Speaker 2: So and like in the midfield and then like he's
Speaker 2: in the goal square. It's like that's not possible. That's tealiportation.
Speaker 1: Oh he's doing this. It was crazy. He's the incredible player.
Speaker 1: Him and Chad Warner obviously played really well over the weekend.
Speaker 1: And yeah, we just we struggled to be able to
Speaker 1: hold the lead in the fourth quarter and they came
Speaker 1: home very very strong. And yeah, rough. I I want
Speaker 1: to say so much, so much, Braiden, But you know
Speaker 1: how this works.
Speaker 2: It's sometimes it's good to just suppress.
Speaker 1: Something collar on from the AFL.
Speaker 2: Sometimes it's good to just suppress some things. So we'll
Speaker 2: keep going through our list of things and I might draw.
Speaker 1: Some out of you.
Speaker 2: I want to start with the positive because you did
Speaker 2: kick a goal. And then you know, one of the
Speaker 2: more unfortunate celebrations to give a crowd when you end
Speaker 2: up losing the game is the shush.
Speaker 1: It's gone pretty well at that point.
Speaker 2: Ah, but yeah, what was the shush about? Were you
Speaker 2: getting stick from the crowd? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I mean Sydney's an interesting place, right the MCG, like
Speaker 1: behind the bench stuff is all oh, you know, the MCG.
Speaker 1: It's all it's all media and stuff. You don't get
Speaker 1: too many hecklers. But like at the SEG it is
Speaker 1: literally as soon as you sit up out of the
Speaker 1: like off the bench, it's like people huckleing yeah, and
Speaker 1: you're sitting there like okay, mate, come on, like we're
Speaker 1: in Sydney, bro ge back. So yeah, there's just people
Speaker 1: talking trash up there, and they do have a this
Speaker 1: a hostile crowd. I think like there's been a bit
Speaker 1: of Oh there's been some really big games I think
Speaker 1: between us and Sydney. Obviously the prelium up there and
Speaker 1: stuff like that. So injured jack in Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: there's some stuff that Sydney's done. I don't think they.
Speaker 1: I mean, last I heard there's like dating meetups and
Speaker 1: stuff going on in these games, like I don't know, whatever,
Speaker 1: you know, to get fans there, I'm off for it.
Speaker 1: But the next Sydney game, yeah, I know we need
Speaker 1: to we should actually join that. There's a lot going
Speaker 1: on up there. But yeah, you couple a little bit
Speaker 1: over the over the boundary, I guess in Sydney. So
Speaker 1: you know, like I said, if someone's willing to give
Speaker 1: it to me, I'm happy to give it back to them.
Speaker 2: I like that, Like I like it. I'll break it
Speaker 2: down just a real like quick let's look at this
Speaker 2: in a nutshell. The things I like, I like player taunting.
Speaker 2: I also like the ability to give it back to
Speaker 2: a player within reason. And then I like the player
Speaker 2: not only taunting like other players and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: I like them being able to taunt the crowd. We've
Speaker 2: seen a couple of good ones. As long as no
Speaker 2: one oversteps a line. I like it all. So say like,
Speaker 2: you shush the crowd and then and then you kick
Speaker 2: that other one that you did kick that was a shocker.
Speaker 2: If they're shushing you back, I think that's great banter.
Speaker 2: That's great banter both sides.
Speaker 1: It's usually the USA champ back screw something out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, stuff like that. I like that. It can obviously
Speaker 2: cross a line, but before I like it. For the
Speaker 2: most part. Across the board, there's a lot of people
Speaker 2: that I feel like, you know, eighty percent of people
Speaker 2: are probably on board with the let's not go wild stuff,
Speaker 2: and then there's another twenty percent that think they're joining
Speaker 2: in but taking it way too far way.
Speaker 1: We just need to be reeled back in, just reel
Speaker 1: it back in.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I do, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I wish we still could be able to tunt on
Speaker 1: the mark. Oh man, that was That was one of
Speaker 1: the coolest things about AFL And my first side I
Speaker 1: was like, people are doing handstands and like pulling their
Speaker 1: shirt up and like throwing grass at the person. I
Speaker 1: was like, this is fine, this is great entertainment.
Speaker 2: The fake grass toss. How is that pulled out?
Speaker 1: It was real? It was real grass.
Speaker 2: Like the guys will take out their mouthguard and pretend
Speaker 2: to throw their mouthguard, Like, who's that hurting? Bring that back?
Speaker 2: All those ones are fine, you think, I think that's
Speaker 2: what's he gonna I thought he was going to throw
Speaker 2: a mouthguard at me a lot, like a little piece
Speaker 2: of rubber. Mate. You get like hip and shouldered to
Speaker 2: the dome and you come anyway anyway. I like the
Speaker 2: thought of bringing it back. I do want to stop
Speaker 2: on it a tiny bit because you did it.
Speaker 1: We got to.
Speaker 2: Clarify this, and anyone we clarify. We know our We
Speaker 2: know our podcast audience is the more sophisticated all of course,
Speaker 2: like our audience. We know it, and we discussed it
Speaker 2: last week. But there's still some idiots out there. You
Speaker 2: jumping up and down on the mark. You did it
Speaker 2: again on the weekend. And I think that was saying
Speaker 2: it on the commentary. I'm pretty sure I'm not calling
Speaker 2: BT an idiot. We love BT, but he was saying, Oh,
Speaker 2: you can't jump up and down. We got told that
Speaker 2: it's to stand. You got to stand. The whole commentary
Speaker 2: Box was about standing.
Speaker 1: It's just as clear on rules as we are exactly.
Speaker 2: So that's what this is. Why there's more confusion. So
Speaker 2: you can jump up and down on the spot.
Speaker 1: Yes, you can jump down on the spot. Can't go forward,
Speaker 1: can't go back, can't move side to side, what's up
Speaker 1: and down? You can't go anywhere else.
Speaker 2: Late, you did kind of jump off to the side,
Speaker 2: but we'll ignore that because the umpire somehow didn't see it.
Speaker 2: So I think maybe that's it's a big call. Anyway,
Speaker 2: as soon.
Speaker 1: As he kicks it, you can kind of like, as
Speaker 1: long as the ball hits I mean, as soon as
Speaker 1: the ball hits its foot as play on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and if he comes off his line you can't
Speaker 2: and Gray Arias, we love Gray Arias. Anyway, let's jump
Speaker 2: into it. Because you did play against one of your
Speaker 2: good mates, Brody Grundy, there's a fair bit of by play.
Speaker 2: It was a pretty even contest across the board. I'm
Speaker 2: not going to say who won, and last we don't
Speaker 2: need together. Yeah, but there was a moment where you
Speaker 2: took a mark in front of Brody Grundy, which is
Speaker 2: pretty wild. One grabber too big, one grab pluck, and
Speaker 2: it cut to Brody and Brody had a big smile
Speaker 2: on his face, And when you were going on back
Speaker 2: on the mark, you had a big smile on your face.
Speaker 2: And I want to know what the bye play of
Speaker 2: all of that was.
Speaker 1: It's like it's playing a professional sport against one of
Speaker 1: your like really good friends. It's weird to think that,
Speaker 1: like you've played together for like eight years and nine
Speaker 1: years whatever it was, and then now you're like it's
Speaker 1: supposed to like hate each other. It's like look man like,
Speaker 1: and you know, you want each person wants the other
Speaker 1: one to be successful. Obviously whenever you're playing them like
Speaker 1: the total opposite of what you want because you're obviously
Speaker 1: like their direct matchup. So I think it was just
Speaker 1: kind of funny because like, as rockman, there's a bit
Speaker 1: of a rockman club. You know, you have a bit
Speaker 1: of a chatter out on the field because you're kind
Speaker 1: of running next to each other for most of the game,
Speaker 1: and there's a bit of respect towards each other. You
Speaker 1: could say, right, that's a big man, and you know, Brodie,
Speaker 1: you kind of have a little chat yeah around just
Speaker 1: say how you going, what's up? This is a bit
Speaker 1: weird experience, you know, and yeah, like you just you
Speaker 1: talk a bit of trash to each other and yeah,
Speaker 1: someone does something good, it's something the end of the world.
Speaker 1: You know, you're just gonna have a bit of a
Speaker 1: laugh about it. And yeah, you can win every single contest,
Speaker 1: so you know, you you say, well done, I can
Speaker 1: go out to whatever it is and get fucked the time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's quite funny. I think. I foind it was like
Speaker 1: a unique experience and one that I really enjoy because
Speaker 1: you want to play against some of the best people
Speaker 1: and Brodie's like one of the best rockmen in the camp. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I think there's just like a real kind of
Speaker 1: respect between the people at the same time and in
Speaker 1: a real enjoyment playing each other. Knowing like you've trained
Speaker 1: against each other for eight years, so you know each
Speaker 1: one of them's like little habits and little things that
Speaker 1: they do, and you know, you probably have a bit
Speaker 1: more of an understanding of every kind of thing they're
Speaker 1: going to do on a game day rather than someone
Speaker 1: who's just looking at film. Yeah, and you understand their
Speaker 1: mental headspace and like what gets them off and like
Speaker 1: that sounded really gross, what throws them off and things
Speaker 1: like that, you know. So it's kind of like this
Speaker 1: whole kind of game against each other and it's it's
Speaker 1: quite fun just to screw with each other around it.
Speaker 1: And that's yeah. Over the weekend, it was. It was
Speaker 1: quite funny.
Speaker 2: I thought he was surprised that you took a one
Speaker 2: grab mark on him. He probably was, but he did
Speaker 2: go back and I had complete and art of confidence
Speaker 2: in your kicking ability. The little graphic popped up on
Speaker 2: the screen said five to four from set shots. I
Speaker 2: was like, that's not as good as it once was.
Speaker 2: And then you went back and I don't know what
Speaker 2: you did here because it went not high, not far,
Speaker 2: and skewed heavily right. But it was a very nice
Speaker 2: assist in the air.
Speaker 1: It didn't count for a color behind Brenden, so fire
Speaker 1: for still standing when.
Speaker 2: You're like, oh, pop it to the top of the
Speaker 2: square when you're like five meters out from the top
Speaker 2: of the square, it's.
Speaker 1: A bit different. Yeah, it was. It was one of
Speaker 1: the SEG's a very wide ground, and I think I
Speaker 1: pulled off the mic and I like kind of looked
Speaker 1: up and realized they could barely see a sliver of
Speaker 1: space between the two big posts. So I was kind
Speaker 1: of like, it should probably be snapping this, but there
Speaker 1: was not enough like time to be able to go
Speaker 1: back and then set up a snap, so you just
Speaker 1: had to commit to the process. And yeah, I didn't
Speaker 1: go so well, I mean luckily when we scored off it.
Speaker 1: So who's to say that wasn't what I was meaning
Speaker 1: to do, except it was my intention for us to
Speaker 1: get six points out of that play.
Speaker 2: And we did Brandon set play every week, set play,
Speaker 2: watch out for it next week because it'll come back again.
Speaker 2: We may as well just keep riffing on you because
Speaker 2: there was a moment where you gave away a ruck
Speaker 2: free kick. Now, whether it was there or not, that's
Speaker 2: that's already decided, and it's in the book.
Speaker 1: You lost your shit.
Speaker 2: You were like, you can't be you're bending over in
Speaker 2: half or whatever, and then it cuts to the wide
Speaker 2: shot and you're just staring bullets through the.
Speaker 1: Umpire explain what's going on. I feel like.
Speaker 2: That's probably a better move is to just shut your
Speaker 2: mouth and just stare as hard as you can at
Speaker 2: him because you can't really get in trouble for steering right.
Speaker 2: And then anyway it goes hope, not anyway, it goes
Speaker 2: further down the field and you thought you gave away
Speaker 2: another free kick?
Speaker 1: True, yes, Well Brodie like goes back to like get
Speaker 1: the balls if he was like coming off the mark
Speaker 1: and I was like, I have just give up. I
Speaker 1: have no idea. I have no, absolutely no idea how
Speaker 1: that could have been a free kick. And then he's like, hey,
Speaker 1: you could get the ball, and I was like, good,
Speaker 1: chat was enjoying the footy. The first one I was
Speaker 1: living on and then to call it and I was like,
Speaker 1: what happened? He's just like not free kicking. I'm like, no,
Speaker 1: explain what happened because I have no idea what I did.
Speaker 1: And then you kind of get used to get explanation
Speaker 1: from the umpire later on whatever maybe, but then yeah,
Speaker 1: and then the second one, I was just like it
Speaker 1: was within like a minute of each other, and I
Speaker 1: was just already on edge. I was mate, oh boy,
Speaker 1: you were just wow.
Speaker 2: You were just reving up to really give both barrels.
Speaker 2: There was a fifty meter penalty just on the precipice,
Speaker 2: just on the horizon, and then it was peeny, it's yours,
Speaker 2: and you're just.
Speaker 1: Oh, yep, okay, good chat, good call.
Speaker 2: He was held for sure. Oh my god. So then
Speaker 2: we move on from there. Now this one, I'm sure
Speaker 2: you would have copt no criticism over this incident at all.
Speaker 2: Late in the game Rock Contest, you didn't have an
Speaker 2: opponent in the rock deep inside your forward line game
Speaker 2: in the balance, you had an opportunity to either take
Speaker 2: the ball out of the ruck or tap it, set
Speaker 2: plays to teammates running whatever routes, and you decided to
Speaker 2: go to the tap. Yeah, what went through your head
Speaker 2: in that moment?
Speaker 1: Yeah, when it ever says no no Rock Sydney or
Speaker 1: wherever it was, that does go through mind like, oh, like,
Speaker 1: kind of how much space do I have around me?
Speaker 1: Can I kind of pull this out and be able
Speaker 1: to kick, you know, be able to get good contact
Speaker 1: on a ball and get in the direction that is
Speaker 1: between the two big ones. It's very hard to do
Speaker 1: because usually you maybe have half a second before like
Speaker 1: once they realized that there's no one there, usually defenders
Speaker 1: probably bang right on you pretty quickly and you get tackled.
Speaker 1: So the mind kind of they did cross my mind
Speaker 1: as soon as you said it, But I think you
Speaker 1: kind of like, we're pretty good Ford fifty stoppage team,
Speaker 1: so you kind of, you know, back that in. And
Speaker 1: to be honest with you, you got, you know, people
Speaker 1: like Nick Decoss run around. It's pretty tough not to
Speaker 1: be giving them a you know, a head out. So yeah,
Speaker 1: you're back in. Yeah, there's that play that you have
Speaker 1: running and they had they had to behind the ball.
Speaker 1: I think it was Nick bake Lye. Honestly, they took
Speaker 1: it out and kicked it out and that was kind
Speaker 1: of the end of it. But yeah, you definitely think
Speaker 1: about it as a rock. If it was a different
Speaker 1: time of the game, in a different score, you'd probably
Speaker 1: be more willing to do it. But I think in
Speaker 1: such a close game, given the percentages of it actually
Speaker 1: being successful and not being so high, you probably don't
Speaker 1: err on doing it. If you're like first quarter, you're
Speaker 1: up by fifteen, maybe twenty points, you would might think
Speaker 1: about doing it right or maybe take it out of
Speaker 1: the rock and like have someone come to tackle you,
Speaker 1: handball to his man and then you try to get
Speaker 1: a goal out of it. But in that moment, I
Speaker 1: don't think it's probably the percentage play, if that makes sense,
Speaker 1: and the highest percentage play is probably try to kick
Speaker 1: a goal.
Speaker 2: It does cross your mind, Well, it's all hindsight stuff.
Speaker 2: If you had at tapped it and went to a
Speaker 2: teammate and you kicked the goal, you're a legend. If
Speaker 2: you had to taken it out of the rock and
Speaker 2: got tackled straight away, you're a bigger villain because look
Speaker 2: at you trying to win the game off your own boot.
Speaker 2: Very hard situation to put yourself in, because you've also
Speaker 2: got and I'm not sure in that moment that it
Speaker 2: could quickly go through your head. But like what your
Speaker 2: coach would say, what your teammates would.
Speaker 1: Right, Like, you want to play your role on the team,
Speaker 1: and that's that's my role.
Speaker 2: S I do like a lot of people have put
Speaker 2: your ability on such a pedestal that they think that
Speaker 2: the two point one meter tall block can snatch it
Speaker 2: out of the ruck and quickly get it on his
Speaker 2: boots snap it through. But did they see the search
Speaker 2: up before looking back at the replay, there was two
Speaker 2: Sydney blokes that identified really quick that you were one
Speaker 2: out in the ruck and got to you straight away.
Speaker 1: So obvious Sidney, no rock.
Speaker 2: Sydney shut down quick. But it was just one to
Speaker 2: bring up. Now. Your coach did speak on this post game,
Speaker 2: got a nice little warning from the NFL to say, hey,
Speaker 2: stop showing personality out there and telling us what you think.
Speaker 2: Was it a fifty meter penalty in the Dan mixtaye,
Speaker 2: Tom McCartin kind of mark in the middle of the ground.
Speaker 1: What do you think, Braden? I'm going to ask you.
Speaker 2: I will give you my opinion on it, because I'm
Speaker 2: probably the only one again and for mine, I get
Speaker 2: that the North Melbourne one earlier in the year that
Speaker 2: people are you know, tying it to I feel like
Speaker 2: that was probably a fifty as well, so I don't
Speaker 2: see how that's any different. But going into this one,
Speaker 2: I feel like McCartin wasn't in the market, it wasn't
Speaker 2: a marketing contest, so he was kind of their second.
Speaker 2: Dan took the mark. There is a bit of leeway
Speaker 2: for momentum, but I feel like he went beyond that
Speaker 2: momentum point. There was about three or four steps. There
Speaker 2: was a point where you could see that he could
Speaker 2: have pulled up, and he didn't. And then he went
Speaker 2: another three or four steps and then Dan turned around pointed,
Speaker 2: and then that's where I feel like that's the fifty.
Speaker 2: Then beyond that, umpires calling him back. He takes two steps,
Speaker 2: but Dan's already played on. I think it's like wild that,
Speaker 2: like if he had got a smother on that like
Speaker 2: that shouldn't be able to happen. Like it's he's taken
Speaker 2: a mark, he's gone like ten meters over the mark,
Speaker 2: and then gets a smother on. He gets to kick
Speaker 2: around and it doesn't really result in anything. But yeah,
Speaker 2: I think it's probably a fifty by the letter of
Speaker 2: the law. And then on top of comments around, you know,
Speaker 2: if it was at the MCG, I think you get
Speaker 2: that bias if it's in your home city, I don't
Speaker 2: think it's I don't think it's a you know, the
Speaker 2: stadium or the umpiring or anything plays a result in that.
Speaker 2: You see it a lot when it goes to like
Speaker 2: West Coast playing in Perth, they get a lot of
Speaker 2: momentum and they get the umpires across the line. There
Speaker 2: was a lot of deliberates paid. When the Sydney fans
Speaker 2: got full voice, I thought you were really hard done
Speaker 2: by because you tapped yours around your opponent and it
Speaker 2: was going so slowly to the boundary. You could have
Speaker 2: got back to it and picked it up, but you
Speaker 2: were blocked and tackled off the ball, and then when
Speaker 2: it slowly trickled across the boundary line, you got done
Speaker 2: for deliberate. Now, I think that's a bit harsh. Darcy
Speaker 2: Moore to Darcy Cameron. I thought that was a bit
Speaker 2: harsh because he's clearly trying to get it around his
Speaker 2: opponent to Darcy Cameron and it goes out of bounds.
Speaker 2: I thought those two were pretty harsh. But then I
Speaker 2: thought there was a lot. I don't know if you
Speaker 2: realized this at the time, but there was a bloody
Speaker 2: heck of a lot of deliberates. There were so many deliberates,
Speaker 2: and I think not all of them were there, but
Speaker 2: I feel like there was a lot of them there.
Speaker 2: All in all, I think it was pretty well adjudicated
Speaker 2: in terms of the match, but there was very costly ones,
Speaker 2: and there's been a lot of very costly ones this
Speaker 2: year where the AFL to that credit, not that it
Speaker 2: helps it all have come out and said, whoopsie, yeah,
Speaker 2: we cost you that game probably about five six times
Speaker 2: this year. So I don't know where I sit on that,
Speaker 2: but you know, maybe we should just get better and
Speaker 2: we will try to get better. As podcasters, they try
Speaker 2: to get better at what they do. Everyone should just improve.
Speaker 2: So that's all I'm going to say on it.
Speaker 1: All valid points, bro, That's all I'm going to valid
Speaker 1: fifth on most of that, but all valid points.
Speaker 2: We all got to get better. If you come out
Speaker 2: and say that you don't want to improve as a human,
Speaker 2: what are you doing? You need to look in the
Speaker 2: mirror and look at yourself. I do want to jump
Speaker 2: into this one. We need to get a bit of praise. Lastly,
Speaker 2: we'll say, Heni Warner, massive congratulations for how well you
Speaker 2: played in the last quarter. Very well done. Fuck me.
Speaker 1: Good on yes.
Speaker 2: Anyway, Jeremy how two hundred and fiftieth game. Absolute legend
Speaker 2: of a bloke, nicest bloke out there. Cool to see
Speaker 2: him out there with Xander running through the banner doing
Speaker 2: all the nice stuff that we like. For two fifties,
Speaker 2: I feel like a lot of two fifties. Got kind
Speaker 2: of zoned out when Pendals was doing his four hundred.
Speaker 2: But we've seen a few two fifties in recent weeks,
Speaker 2: and none more deserving than how we who obviously come
Speaker 2: across from Melbourne, moved from Ford to back, been great
Speaker 2: in defense, came back from a really really serious broken arm.
Speaker 2: We heard the story on our podcast if you haven't
Speaker 2: heard it, got infected, had to go through that whole process,
Speaker 2: didn't know if he was going to get back, has
Speaker 2: come back and played some really good footies.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we had him on the podcast and got the
Speaker 1: interview him, but all that kind of stuff. So if
Speaker 1: you haven't listened to it, go back and look it up.
Speaker 1: But incredible human being. One of the people I think
Speaker 1: that I've looked at probably is you know, for advice,
Speaker 1: and just the way he lives his life and like
Speaker 1: the way he interacts with people and everything else is
Speaker 1: just so positive and so loving, I think, And you
Speaker 1: look at that and you're like, man, if I can
Speaker 1: take a leaf out of his book, you know, I'll
Speaker 1: be a better human for it. So for him to
Speaker 1: get two fifty awesome, awesome accomplishment and to have his
Speaker 1: family there with his wife and kid at the game.
Speaker 1: Was just so cool to see. And yeah, he's been
Speaker 1: through a lot of you know, tough times in his career.
Speaker 1: It was all AFL players. I feel like, I kind
Speaker 1: of do that get to that, to that kind of milestone,
Speaker 1: and it's a credit to him and zilience to be
Speaker 1: able to kind of fight through that and be able
Speaker 1: to get out the other side and you know, I'll
Speaker 1: be playing such good football still. You know, like you said,
Speaker 1: he had the arm injury that was so serious, like
Speaker 1: it was insane some of that stuff he went through,
Speaker 1: and he said some other stuff that's been really you know,
Speaker 1: tough to kind of get through. And it's crazy to
Speaker 1: me because I think like if I were in the
Speaker 1: same situation and some of the same stuff happened to me,
Speaker 1: I don't know that I'd be able to kind of
Speaker 1: fight through that. And you know, his his ability to
Speaker 1: just rock up with a smile every single day still
Speaker 1: and just be the happy, go lucky eye that he is.
Speaker 1: It's just one of those things you just kind of
Speaker 1: admire and you're like, man, I wish I could. I
Speaker 1: wish I could be like that, you know, and have
Speaker 1: that every single day and be able to have such
Speaker 1: a positive attitude, And I think that's one thing that
Speaker 1: I'll forever be grateful when of her. You know, you
Speaker 1: sit there and say, like I played with that guy Jeremy,
Speaker 1: how you'd be like? Man? That was That was one
Speaker 1: of the people I really like, kind of looked up
Speaker 1: to and admired during my playing days.
Speaker 2: Absolute ripper, nicest guy. He would always, you know, go
Speaker 2: the extra mile for us when we're in the media department. Yeah,
Speaker 2: met him a few times on other podcasts outside of Footy.
Speaker 2: Had a couple of beers with him. He's just a
Speaker 2: ripping black I had twelve, he had probably a responsible
Speaker 2: one or two. And before we go into our preview,
Speaker 2: I did want to bring up one more incident from
Speaker 2: the weekend text walker, you know, massive legend of the game.
Speaker 2: Big text went off subbed bad I poke bad ipoke,
Speaker 2: So he was sitting on the back of the bench, miserable.
Speaker 2: We don't like im for getting a phone call.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and hold the wrong wayting.
Speaker 2: A little brigade together the I poke all Australian list.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well you got Roy Sloan had a real big
Speaker 1: issue with it throughout his kind of career. So yeah,
Speaker 1: we'll see, we'll see kind of that pans out, but hey,
Speaker 1: pros up hopefully. All right, it's quite serious.
Speaker 2: We don't like I pokes at all. Let's go into
Speaker 2: the preview for the week Essen and Sydney here in Melbourne.
Speaker 2: There's no way that I can look at Esmond and
Speaker 2: get around them at all.
Speaker 1: I can't yeh, yeah, No, Sydney. I've got this feeling
Speaker 1: in the next two games to finish off the year,
Speaker 1: Sydney's going to go on a terror.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they kind of have to go back to being
Speaker 2: the fight on top of the ladder. You've got to
Speaker 2: get that momentum back. Let's talk about Gold Coast Melbourne.
Speaker 2: I think Melbourne's packed her up for the year. Gold
Speaker 2: Coast still seems to be punching, still seems to be fighting.
Speaker 2: They've got a bit of excitement around the team and
Speaker 2: around the list.
Speaker 1: What you after last week beating in by one point?
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, big gold Coast, Gold Coast over Melbourne.
Speaker 1: I picked that one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, GWS FREEO. This is going to be my lock
Speaker 2: because I looked at it. There's too many easy locks
Speaker 2: this week, and we don't like easy locks. We like
Speaker 2: putting the putting the balls on the line for the
Speaker 2: cuck lock.
Speaker 1: Ah we go.
Speaker 2: I'm going to go GWS to get this win against Freo.
Speaker 2: Frio is fighting for finals, so they're going to be desperate.
Speaker 2: But I just feel like GWS are going to be
Speaker 2: that good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I have to go g WS for free
Speaker 1: on Freo. Like you said, it's got an interesting little
Speaker 1: finish to the season. It's going to be unique to
Speaker 1: see kind of what happens with them. That's a big
Speaker 1: watch to have a little watch out for free. I'm
Speaker 1: going to check the stats and the scores, have a
Speaker 1: have a lookout for how they're going. Let's go to
Speaker 1: the next one we got. They got WS No. One.
Speaker 2: We've got the Showdown up next Port v Adelaide, so
Speaker 2: anything can happen in this one. Obviously Adelaide coming off
Speaker 2: a big win last week and Porte doing port things
Speaker 2: at the moment.
Speaker 1: Yeah, port going really well. Adelaide also, like I said,
Speaker 1: taking teams to the line. Obviously got to win over
Speaker 1: the weekend against the Western Bulldogs. Big w. I think
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a lot closer gain than people probably think.
Speaker 1: I've still got Port Adelaide winning at Adelaide at Oval.
Speaker 1: I think it'd be a good game. I think the
Speaker 1: showdown might be like the game of the round as
Speaker 1: far as how close it's going to be. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: happy to Yeah, I'm happy to make that statement.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll give it to Adelaide just because, like you
Speaker 2: really can't pick it. And I know Port needs to
Speaker 2: be Cherry Wright, but I feel like Adelaide, you know,
Speaker 2: the season's done, what can you get up for for
Speaker 2: the rest of the year. Them fully rallied for this game,
Speaker 2: and it'd be like the idea of spoiling finals for
Speaker 2: porn will motivate them more than anything, and they're an
Speaker 2: exciting team when they get up and running. When you
Speaker 2: have nothing to lose, you just attack with absolute freedom.
Speaker 2: So let's see how that goes. Saint Kilda Geelong. Now
Speaker 2: I don't see Saint Kilda doing this, but you know,
Speaker 2: I'd love to see it, but I just don't see it.
Speaker 1: I'm going to make a controversial statement here, what go
Speaker 1: to Saint Kildo win in this game. I've got this feeling,
Speaker 1: I've just got this feeling that Saint Kilda just kind
Speaker 1: of bobs up out of nowhere and just says, you
Speaker 1: know what, Gelong, you've looked past us. We're gonna we're
Speaker 1: gonna have a little We're to have a care. I'll
Speaker 1: throw that one because it's a statement. But like I
Speaker 1: think Saint Kilda will at least have a quarter, maybe
Speaker 1: the first or second quarter, which along will be a
Speaker 1: bit oh wow, we should probably turn things on now.
Speaker 2: It does make sense. You know, they built themselves up
Speaker 2: for the Perth game against Freo, went across there, got
Speaker 2: the win. You got to travel all the way back.
Speaker 2: You got to readjust your time. Not only do you
Speaker 2: have to travel, you've got to travel back to Melbourne
Speaker 2: and then travel all the way back to Geelong, which
Speaker 2: is another you know thing in itself.
Speaker 1: But I'm going to something that's different. I like that
Speaker 1: one they killed getting over Jaelong.
Speaker 2: I like that Western Bulldogs beaten North. Yeah, that's that's
Speaker 2: an easy dub log Richmond, Oh my god, West Coast Carlton.
Speaker 1: Carlton on the terms of yeah, that was like four
Speaker 1: or five, Like, so did a hamstring?
Speaker 2: I want to say something, Well, as we record this,
Speaker 2: we don't know what Harry McKay is doing. Kono is
Speaker 2: cooked with his ankle.
Speaker 1: Injured. There's two others on so they got injured too, Jack,
Speaker 1: I yeah, West Coast, Yeah, I feel the West Coast.
Speaker 1: I feel like the West Coast versus Carleton.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Man, that's going to be a dagger for Carlton fans
Speaker 1: if that happens. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I feel like and players get that same momentum that
Speaker 2: some fans do. Now. I love hate watching teams almost
Speaker 2: as much as I like supporting teams. So like, I
Speaker 2: do like a Collingwood game, but I like seeing the
Speaker 2: teams I don't like perform poorly.
Speaker 1: That's literally you're every fan, but just in the reverse
Speaker 1: for Collingwood. Yeah, every fan loves lose se.
Speaker 2: So like, I love a team that's on the precipice
Speaker 2: of the eighty and if they get this win against
Speaker 2: the lowly team, they'll make the eight. But then the
Speaker 2: lowly team, the underdog, gets the job done. There's just
Speaker 2: nothing better than it. It's pure theatrics, and I want
Speaker 2: West Coast to win this game.
Speaker 1: West Coast hardly ready to take a hangar, That's what
Speaker 1: I must say.
Speaker 2: The mud flat Waterman to kick four and Oscar Alan to.
Speaker 1: Kick Fourt's jump in Erman still playing that making it
Speaker 1: in things like that.
Speaker 2: Don't Collingwood Brisbane the Grand Final rematch probably not the
Speaker 2: billing that it's you know, built up that we'd expect
Speaker 2: at the MCG. Can you spoil them? Can you spoil
Speaker 2: their run to the top four and finals?
Speaker 1: That's the plan? Is the plan stand at the MCG.
Speaker 1: It'd be a yeah, a Grand Final rematch. It's kind
Speaker 1: of interesting to kind of see how both teams have
Speaker 1: kind of panned out throughout the year after being in
Speaker 1: the Grand Final last year. But yeah, Brisbane's a quality
Speaker 1: opposition that's going really well. I know they lost last week,
Speaker 1: but like you said, I think they had won nine
Speaker 1: in a row previously, so it's going to be a
Speaker 1: challenge for us. And statistically, I think we're still a
Speaker 1: chance to make the eight. So you know, as long
Speaker 1: as that's a you know out there and availability, we're
Speaker 1: going to put one foot in front of the other
Speaker 1: and you do as much as we can try to
Speaker 1: get as many wins on the board.
Speaker 2: Love that one foot in front of the other. Good cliche.
Speaker 2: All right, that's it. That's our podcast which cock Lock
Speaker 2: I gave mine to GWe.
Speaker 1: Got gold coaster from Melbourne.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just good enough.
Speaker 1: It's just good enough Mac Andrew to kick four. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm on the Mac Andrew train. Baby, let's go. Oh man,
Speaker 1: let them have it, let him have it. Well, that
Speaker 1: is it for the podcast. Everyone, Thank you so much
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Speaker 2: Yeah,