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Speaker 1: This is jam Nation with jonesy Amanda.

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Speaker 2: Well, you'd think that the federal election on May twenty

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Speaker 2: one is probably the most important date in Anthony Albanese's calendar,

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Speaker 2: but he's also looking forward to tomorrow. That's when he

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Speaker 2: is free from isolation after contracting coronavirus in the midst

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Speaker 2: of an election campaign. We're going live to his COVID

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Speaker 2: headquarters now I e his home. Anthony Albanezi, Hello.

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Speaker 1: Good morning, greetings from.

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Speaker 3: Marrick fall right, and you're okay, Yeah, I am.

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Speaker 1: It's it's been a dippic awk week, but my symptoms

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Speaker 1: have been much milder than many other people have had,

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Speaker 1: so I am looking forward to getting out. My doctor

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Speaker 1: tells me I have to take things easy, particularly in

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Speaker 1: the first few days, to not do the sixteen and

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Speaker 1: twenty hour days that I was doing. But it will

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Speaker 1: be good to be out and about. And the first

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Speaker 1: thing I'm doing is heading to Western Australia where we

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Speaker 1: have our campaign launched this Sunday.

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Speaker 2: There's never a great time to get COVID. But how

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Speaker 2: did you feel when you saw those two lines come

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Speaker 2: up in the midst of a campaign?

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Speaker 1: Well, pretty shocked. It was a PCR. So I got

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Speaker 1: a technic message from the Health authorities and it was

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Speaker 1: a shock because I was feeling fine. It was the

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Speaker 1: day after the debate and I had a win in

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Speaker 1: the first debate with Scott Morrison, and I'd been busy.

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Speaker 1: I'd flown from Brisbane down to naam vomit Ay and

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Speaker 1: spent time there at the Manildrea plant, and then i'd

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Speaker 1: flown back up to Sydney and I'd been at Top

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Speaker 1: Ride shopping center with your own lexlele in your local

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Speaker 1: community there from where you are, and I felt fine.

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Speaker 1: I got a routine test because I was traveling to

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Speaker 1: Perth the next day and test positive, and then the

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Speaker 1: symptoms started to appear the next day.

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Speaker 2: Look, I've heard some people say that the Labor government

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Speaker 2: and the Coalition are pretty similar. What would you say

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Speaker 2: to them, what are your big points of difference.

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Speaker 1: I'd say there are big points of difference of this election.

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Speaker 1: We want to strengthen medicare, the government's undermined Medicare. We

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Speaker 1: want cheaper childcare. They say we can't afford it. We

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Speaker 1: think that investing in women's workforce participation and productivity and

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Speaker 1: working families is a worthwhile investment that produces a return.

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Speaker 1: We want to take action on climate change. This government

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Speaker 1: had twenty two policies and haven't landed one. And we

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Speaker 1: want to learn the lessons of the pandemic and build

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Speaker 1: back stronger. The lessons are we need to be more resilient,

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Speaker 1: we need to make more things in Australia. But the

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Speaker 1: big thing is cost of living. This government is the

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Speaker 1: closest webe. Would come to a government that can be

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Speaker 1: defined by the dog ate my homework. I mean yesterday

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Speaker 1: we had that massive inflation figure, which just confirm what

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Speaker 1: people are feeling out there. The cost of everything is

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Speaker 1: going up.

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Speaker 2: And what would you do to counter Yeah, the wages

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Speaker 2: aren't so but you can't control people's wages. That's a

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Speaker 2: business decision. So how would your government combat the cost

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Speaker 2: of living rises.

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Speaker 1: What you can do is invest in things that boost productivity.

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Speaker 1: So if you invest in clean energy, which is our plan,

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Speaker 1: it will boost business, it will boost the economy. If

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Speaker 1: you invest in the National Broadband Network and go back

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Speaker 1: to five or what it was supposed to be, you

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Speaker 1: will boost the economy. You can take pressure off costs

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Speaker 1: of living by having cheaper electricity and cheaper childcare you

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Speaker 1: can have all of these measures that will make a

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Speaker 1: difference to people. You can invest in skills and education

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Speaker 1: so that they can get the better jobs that are

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Speaker 1: available at the moment. The problem for this government is

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Speaker 1: that they've taxed more, they've borrowed more, and they've spent

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Speaker 1: more than the last labor government, but they've actually delivered less.

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Speaker 1: There's less tangible things to show for it. And we

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Speaker 1: can do better. We can do better. I mean, this

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Speaker 1: government aren't even prepared to make a submission to the

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Speaker 1: Fair Work Commission saying that age care workers need a

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Speaker 1: wage increase. Now we know from the Royal Commission that

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Speaker 1: unless that happens, people will continue to leave the sector.

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Speaker 1: This is a sector that is in crisis with real

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Speaker 1: consequences for older, vulnerable Australians, and this government has ignored

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Speaker 1: the recommendations of its own Royal Commission.

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Speaker 3: And with the CPI, the Consumer Price Index, so it's

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Speaker 3: five point one at the moments. So back in two

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Speaker 3: thousand and eight when it was five and that's when

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Speaker 3: your government was in control. But having said that, that

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Speaker 3: was during the global financial crisis, So it would be

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Speaker 3: fair to say we've had a world pandemic we've got

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Speaker 3: a war. So the CPI is going to be high.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's the highest it's been for twenty years, for

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Speaker 1: two decades. And the problem is that not just that

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Speaker 1: prices are high, it's the combination. Prices are high and

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Speaker 1: real wages are going backwards, and real wages have been

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Speaker 1: flat under this government. And this government actually says that

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Speaker 1: the design feature of its economic architecture. This isn't because

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Speaker 1: of bad luck. This is bad policy that is producing

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Speaker 1: these low wages.

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Speaker 2: Well, as we see as we hurtle towards May twenty one,

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Speaker 2: and a lot of people are sort of have made

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Speaker 2: We asked our listeners, have you already made up your

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Speaker 2: mind before the campaign began? Some yes, some know? So

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Speaker 2: these weeks really matter.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's going to be a dong battle. And I

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Speaker 3: must say, do you whenever you go out on the

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Speaker 3: hustings you have to look around for signs like behind

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Speaker 3: saying if you mess up, fess up, and all that

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Speaker 3: sort of stuff. Do you do your people go there

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Speaker 3: and go right, don't stand in front of that side,

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Speaker 3: stand over here.

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Speaker 2: Don't stand in the graffiti of the dn B.

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Speaker 3: Don't understand that there's so much to process.

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Speaker 1: There is but it's a real opportunity to meet people

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Speaker 1: right around the country. People are more engaged during an

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Speaker 1: election campaign than they are otherwise. But I've been on

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Speaker 1: the road essentially since January two, so I'm into my

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Speaker 1: fourth month of heavy campaigning and I'm just passionate about

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Speaker 1: giving Australia a better government. You know, we're a great country,

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Speaker 1: but I think we can be better if we have

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Speaker 1: a better government.

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Speaker 2: Well, just don't go on euwax or eat a sausage,

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Speaker 2: roll sideways or anything crazy.

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Speaker 3: Just be normal, Albo, Can you just be normal? Just

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Speaker 3: don't do anything abnormal. Anthony ALBINIZI thank you for joining us.