WEBVTT - Would You Live In A Murder House?  🏠 ☠️

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<v Speaker 1>The Flex and Frooms Daily podcast, brought to you by.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello Sweet Angels. It's podcast time. Yeah yeah, yeah, Steve,

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<v Speaker 2>let's go.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Flex and Frooms on Cada.

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<v Speaker 2>If you ever need an incentive to move to Coffs Harbor,

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<v Speaker 2>we have too many questions, too many questions. I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's somewhere. It's somewhere in New South Wales. Yes, but

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<v Speaker 2>according to an article I read, it is the luckiest

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<v Speaker 2>place in New South Wales. Vives are up. Now your

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<v Speaker 2>interest peaks before you're being shady. Now you want to

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<v Speaker 2>know no Coffs Harbor shade well. According to an analysis

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<v Speaker 2>of the lotto winnows over the last twelve months, Coffs

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<v Speaker 2>Harbor has accumulated sixty four million dollars of lotto winnings.

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<v Speaker 2>That's uncanny. That's for context West Ride, which is west

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<v Speaker 2>of some Please I wanted to geography. What did you

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<v Speaker 2>get in geography at school? I don't even doing geography.

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<v Speaker 1>The chows.

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<v Speaker 2>Enough with this. The West Ride ten point seven million

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<v Speaker 2>dollars and cabramat of forty million. So what this is

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<v Speaker 2>telling me is that the vibes are up in Coughs Harbor.

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<v Speaker 2>There's something in the water something in the air. Actually,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not promoting gambling.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, you know there's just been a commission into gambling

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<v Speaker 3>in Australia where actually it was a few months ago.

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<v Speaker 3>You have to betting places have to send you an

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<v Speaker 3>invoice with how much you've won and lost per month.

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<v Speaker 2>So see, yeah, I like that me too.

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<v Speaker 1>This is flex and frooms.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you ever considered how powerful your passport is.

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<v Speaker 3>I've definitely considered world like country rankings, so therefore I

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<v Speaker 3>think by association. Yeah, how many passports you have?

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<v Speaker 2>Is one? Which one Australian? It's good to check. What

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<v Speaker 2>about you got one Australian passport? That is it. I

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<v Speaker 2>wanted a Guardian passport so I didn't have to sort

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<v Speaker 2>out a visa before I went. But like, I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>a citizen. I'm just like a rogue stranger who's like,

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<v Speaker 2>I want a visa. I mean, I want a passport.

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<v Speaker 2>Why would they give me one? So you can't get

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<v Speaker 2>a passport if your parents are born somewhere not in Ghana.

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<v Speaker 2>I am as foreign there as anybody else. Can do

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<v Speaker 2>a dodgy maybe everything can be paid for. I found

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<v Speaker 2>this TikTok that referenced a news article that shared the

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<v Speaker 2>list of the least powerful passports, and I didn't recognize

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<v Speaker 2>that passports could be powerful alone, but I guess based

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<v Speaker 2>on what passport you have, it dictates what countries you

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<v Speaker 2>can go do without a visa, which is very important because,

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<v Speaker 2>as we may or may not know, the reason why

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<v Speaker 2>I got stranded in Milan for five days a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of years ago is because I booked a ticket to Ghana,

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<v Speaker 2>assuming that like, huh, they can tell them from there,

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<v Speaker 2>And then I got to the Milan airport and they

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<v Speaker 2>were like, you need a visa and I was like, hmm,

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<v Speaker 2>I've never done that before. It turns out when Mum

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<v Speaker 2>books the fly it gets covered anyway, they'll let you

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<v Speaker 2>can't go into the country. And I was like, I

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<v Speaker 2>totally understand. Thank you for sharing. You know, Mom knew

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<v Speaker 2>something you new someone hooked it up. Thank you. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>listen to this TikTok.

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<v Speaker 4>So there is a list that's out that takes into

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<v Speaker 4>account all of the travel information and all the government

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<v Speaker 4>regulations that ranks all of the world's passports from most

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<v Speaker 4>powerful to least powerful. And they define powerful as this

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<v Speaker 4>passport gets you into the most number of countries with

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<v Speaker 4>either no visa at all required or visa on demand,

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<v Speaker 4>like you can get it at the airport. Let's dive

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<v Speaker 4>into this list. Okay, so we got a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>ties here, but you can see Japan is number one,

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<v Speaker 4>the world's most powerful passport and it's not even tied

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<v Speaker 4>with any other country. With a Japanese passport, you can

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<v Speaker 4>get into one hundred and ninety three countries with either

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<v Speaker 4>no visa or a visa on demand. I thought the US.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe this is my own American centric perspective. I thought

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<v Speaker 4>the US would have been high. But you can see

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<v Speaker 4>the US is number seven, tied with Belgium, New Zealand, Norway, Switzerland,

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<v Speaker 4>one hundred and eighty six countries you can access with

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<v Speaker 4>those passports. We got the UK number six and number ten.

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<v Speaker 4>If we look down, we got Slovakia, Poland Lithuania. You

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<v Speaker 4>can get into one hundred and eighty two countries with

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<v Speaker 4>either no visa or vison demand. Just to provide some

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<v Speaker 4>of the middle countries and in the middle of the rankings,

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<v Speaker 4>not the most powerful, but not the least powerful. This

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<v Speaker 4>is just so interesting. Like Moldova's forty eight, you can

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<v Speaker 4>get into one hundred and twenty one countries with a

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<v Speaker 4>Moldovan passport with no visa or vison demand. Tunisia's number

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<v Speaker 4>seventy seven, Cape Verd, Philippines, Uganda's eighty so cool and interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>West Australia. It's not looking good, Broth because it's definitely

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<v Speaker 2>not in the top eighty. My bad. I misread Australia

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<v Speaker 2>as Austria. We make the mistake every time. So Australia

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<v Speaker 2>was tied eighth with Canada, Czech Republic, Greece and Malta.

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<v Speaker 2>And the Australian passport can get you into one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>eighty five destinations without a visa or visa on demand.

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<v Speaker 2>Not bad nice. I like being with Canada. They feel

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<v Speaker 2>quite neutral.

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<v Speaker 3>Canada maple Smople, Syrup, Wayne's Worlds all neutral things, Mike

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<v Speaker 3>Meyer's Great place to Be. Hi don't love data?

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<v Speaker 2>Who would thought? Who would have thought? To like? Get

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<v Speaker 2>this information? Put it in a place and let us

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<v Speaker 2>have access to it. But this is the Henley Passport

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<v Speaker 2>Index for July of twenty twenty two. This changes frequently,

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<v Speaker 2>so check back in, especially during COVID. I imagine what

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<v Speaker 2>I don't like about this data is what can I

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<v Speaker 2>do with it. I can't just go and get a

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<v Speaker 2>Japanese passport. I can't just go and get a Lithuanian passport.

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<v Speaker 2>They make it their gatekeeping stop gatekeeping passports. Babe a

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<v Speaker 2>girl band. She's like, you can't get in, Willy nilly,

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<v Speaker 2>let me in. I add value.

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to Flex and Frooms on kDa, so FLEXI.

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<v Speaker 3>I was having a conversation with a girlfriend the other

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<v Speaker 3>day and we were having a bit of a debate.

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<v Speaker 3>She thinks that all around Australia it's illegal to sell

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<v Speaker 3>a property to someone without disclosing that there's been a

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<v Speaker 3>death within the house.

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<v Speaker 2>Illegal or frowned upon illegal.

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<v Speaker 3>She said, you can't sell a house to somebody without

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<v Speaker 3>telling them that someone died within it. I said, but

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<v Speaker 3>only check out.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like if you ask, they probably have to

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<v Speaker 2>tell you.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, But then what happens if it happened thirty years

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<v Speaker 3>ago or hundreds?

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<v Speaker 2>What about if you're living on a place where a

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<v Speaker 2>cemetery used to be.

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<v Speaker 3>As are all of our friends living in Newtown in

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<v Speaker 3>Sydney where the Camperdown cemetery used to be thirteen hectares wide.

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<v Speaker 2>So what does the answer do you? Some googles.

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<v Speaker 3>I did some googles and a particular story came up

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<v Speaker 3>which really illustrated this point.

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<v Speaker 2>Australian story. Australian story. Nice.

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<v Speaker 3>So back in two thousand and one, there was a

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<v Speaker 3>guy called Cef Gonzales.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know this story.

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<v Speaker 3>He was a young man from the Philippines, but his

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<v Speaker 3>family lived in Australia. They bought a house in North Ryde.

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<v Speaker 3>They built a beautiful big house in the year two thousand.

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<v Speaker 3>In two thousand and one, Seph had a bit of

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<v Speaker 3>a breakdown where he proceeded to murder his mother, father's

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<v Speaker 3>sister Auntie one by one as they came home. It

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<v Speaker 3>was really grim, made heaps of headlines anyway, end of story.

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<v Speaker 3>The news cycle continued. Then in two thousand and four,

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<v Speaker 3>the house were up for sale, right and the people

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<v Speaker 3>that bought the house were from Singapore, and naturally they

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<v Speaker 3>didn't know what happened.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, naturally, of course, so they purchased this house later

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<v Speaker 2>on because realistically, when there was news coverage about this

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<v Speaker 2>murder in the house, did they give you the address

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<v Speaker 2>in the news coverage? I feel they wouldn't do that. No,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think so. But it was all over because

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<v Speaker 2>it was like this happened in a family home, so

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<v Speaker 2>that they should have been able to recognize the home

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<v Speaker 2>from the news coverage.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, this is where it got tricky. Okay, they bought

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<v Speaker 3>the house. They were from Taiwan, pardon me, not Singapore.

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<v Speaker 2>They're from Taiwan.

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<v Speaker 3>And the minute they bought the house, it made news

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<v Speaker 3>that this house where the family had been murdered it

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<v Speaker 3>had been bought. So the family get to the house

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<v Speaker 3>and they realized, oh, this is the house. So then

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<v Speaker 3>they got their deposit back and they didn't have to

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<v Speaker 3>take the house.

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<v Speaker 2>They got eighty thousand dollars back.

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<v Speaker 3>And the company that sold the house, which was I won't,

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<v Speaker 3>I won't disclose, you won't, they were fined twenty one

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<v Speaker 3>thousand dollars by the New South Wales Office of Fair

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<v Speaker 3>Trading for failing to disclose information that could have a

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<v Speaker 3>substantial impact on the value of the property. And then

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<v Speaker 3>the next year it was sold for eighty thousand.

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<v Speaker 2>Dollars less than the previous year.

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<v Speaker 3>That's it, and it got me thinking, flex, would you

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<v Speaker 3>live in a house where a quadruple murder had occurred?

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<v Speaker 2>Would Flex me live in a house where there had

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<v Speaker 2>been a quadruple murder, presuming I have choices. No, But

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<v Speaker 2>I was thinking about recently when I was trying to

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<v Speaker 2>find this place to live, and I went into it

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<v Speaker 2>with preferences of course, wooden floors, you know, grey lighting,

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<v Speaker 2>nice bathroom, and then you start, you know, doing the search,

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<v Speaker 2>and then you realize you can't have what you need.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I really didn't want carpet, and I didn't want

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<v Speaker 2>gray carpet. Now I got gray carpet and four out

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<v Speaker 2>of like how many routes to me. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>beggars can't be choosing in this instance, though, I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like there is a lot of things, a lot of places,

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<v Speaker 2>environments I'd rather live in than that pubaly because I'm

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<v Speaker 2>a speaky girl. Yes you're speaking. So this is the thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you believe there would be some sort of bad

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<v Speaker 3>juju in the home where that kind of thing occurred.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think bad juju in the sense of like

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<v Speaker 2>these spirits would torment you. But I do think that

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<v Speaker 2>the energy of an environment where something harrowing had occurred,

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<v Speaker 2>you'd would feel that, or if you knew, you would

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<v Speaker 2>convince yourself that you were feeling that, you know, sleepless

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<v Speaker 2>night would be like or maybe and did I see that?

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't want to, you know, like I said

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<v Speaker 2>before we discover that statistically said that only fifteen percent

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<v Speaker 2>of what you worry about actually happens. But it's the

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<v Speaker 2>eighty fives and the plagues you. I don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>worry about living in an environment like that. Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 2>the devil you don't know or something, et cetera, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 2>Would you Oh no.

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<v Speaker 3>I wouldn't live in that house because that was particularly

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<v Speaker 3>I think it would be super disturbing if you knew

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<v Speaker 3>the people that had passed away, like if you had

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<v Speaker 3>visual evidence, if there was news stories about it. But

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<v Speaker 3>the style of houses that I like and that I

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<v Speaker 3>would like to live in are oldie worldy. They're from

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<v Speaker 3>one hundred years ago. So it's part of the purchase.

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<v Speaker 3>I need to understand that someone has presumably passed away

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<v Speaker 3>in the premises I definitely like. For example, my auntie

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<v Speaker 3>and uncle live in my grandparents' house. They passed away

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<v Speaker 3>like twelve years ago, and they died in the bedroom

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<v Speaker 3>where my auntie young cool sleep. Sorry, yeah, my auntie

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<v Speaker 3>and I have a sleep in that room where my

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<v Speaker 3>grandma passed away. And whenever I go to that house,

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<v Speaker 3>all I have is the vision of my nanna in

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<v Speaker 3>that room, yeah, when she passed away. So I like

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<v Speaker 3>I would find it hard get a creepy vibe when

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<v Speaker 3>I go there. Yeah, And I think it makes such

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<v Speaker 3>a good point. It's not necessarily that the spirits are there.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just that in your mind you have the knowledge

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<v Speaker 3>and the memory that that happened there.

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<v Speaker 2>And the mind always likes to fill in the gaps

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<v Speaker 2>of what it doesn't know. So like, you might not

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<v Speaker 2>know the details, it might not be as gruesome as

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<v Speaker 2>you imagine it to be. But lo and behold, sit

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<v Speaker 2>with that news for a couple of weeks. You can

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<v Speaker 2>make up someone to fill in the gaps.

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<v Speaker 1>MM.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to do that. I don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>do that, but it's interesting to know that it is

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<v Speaker 2>illegal to do so. And I guess in the same vein,

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<v Speaker 2>let's say you were going to buy a house that

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<v Speaker 2>had flooded recently, or that I don't know, had like

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<v Speaker 2>a ceiling cave in. You would need to know that information.

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<v Speaker 2>It's vital, right, So I guess why would we draw

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<v Speaker 2>the liner and murder?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, I wonder what deaths they consider the ones

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<v Speaker 3>that need to be told about, like if someone just

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<v Speaker 3>passed away from old age in the house.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, they have to tell you, like where where's the line? Honestly,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean to be fair, I'm surprised that you don't

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<v Speaker 2>have to disclose if houses and suffering flood zones. It's

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<v Speaker 2>up to you to do your own research. So I'm

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<v Speaker 2>thinking like old age, like you know, you'll, what's there

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<v Speaker 2>to say about that murder? I wonder if they tell

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<v Speaker 2>you if your house is in an area that's frequently

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<v Speaker 2>robbed Ooh, because again the suburbs in Sydney in particular

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<v Speaker 2>where I didn't know this having even been born and

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<v Speaker 2>raised here. But there are certain suburbs where like robbery

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<v Speaker 2>happens quite frequently and it's an expectation of living there,

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<v Speaker 2>Surry Hills and it shann't be named speaking.

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<v Speaker 3>From my house being robbed in Surry Hills, you got wrecked.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah what two years ago? All my jewelry gone, my

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<v Speaker 3>laptop gone, my housemate's Lenovo laptop remained, all the macs

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<v Speaker 3>in the house.

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<v Speaker 2>Deals you get it? Exactly fair? How savage? Is is it? Ill?

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<v Speaker 3>Literally?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that was pretty heavy. They wouldn't stoop that low.

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<v Speaker 2>So it was laptops were taken, jewelry was checking what else?

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<v Speaker 3>All of my perfume bottles, all the cats had been

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<v Speaker 3>taken off, and they'd been smelled.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course.

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<v Speaker 3>All the drawers open and they waigh, they found the

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<v Speaker 3>person who robbed our house was through the fingerprints on

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<v Speaker 3>my perfume bottles.

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<v Speaker 2>They found them.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they found them, and repeat offender recouped most of

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<v Speaker 3>the jewry. Yes, she was a repeat offender.

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<v Speaker 2>So and you got the jewelry back. What a great story.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a good story. Did you feel really violated? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>The laptop being being gone was a bit scary because

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know what I have on their incriminating artifacts,

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<v Speaker 3>no doubt, but yeah, it was an interesting experience.

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<v Speaker 2>You really can't prepare yourself that happened to you. That

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<v Speaker 2>sounds terrible.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you can't prepare yourself for the violation that you

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<v Speaker 3>actually you feel walking to a house.

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<v Speaker 2>Just something like to end on Yeah, flicks and frooms, Flicksie.

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<v Speaker 3>I came across this TikTok and I want to know

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<v Speaker 3>what you think of it.

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<v Speaker 2>It is about a thing called performative work. I'll let

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<v Speaker 2>you know for a fee.

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<v Speaker 5>Let's talk about performative work and why it is the

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<v Speaker 5>cringiest part of corporate life. Performative work is the act

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<v Speaker 5>of publicly demonstrating your commitment to your job or the

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<v Speaker 5>boss in a way that's not productive at all. Let's

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<v Speaker 5>have George Costanza explain what I'm talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you do all day? Not that much?

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<v Speaker 1>I thought that new promotion was supposed to be a

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<v Speaker 1>lot more work.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, when the season starts right now?

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<v Speaker 1>I shit around pretending that I'm busy. How do you

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<v Speaker 1>pull that off? I always look annoyed.

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<v Speaker 2>When you look annoyed all the time, people think that

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<v Speaker 2>you're busy.

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<v Speaker 1>Think about it.

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<v Speaker 5>In the office, it can look like peace around acting exasperated,

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<v Speaker 5>but in a virtual workplace it's a little more theatrical.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh how am I? I am? Just back to back

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<v Speaker 5>with meetings today. It's just NonStop. Sorry guys for the

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<v Speaker 5>seven am call. This was the only slot I had

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<v Speaker 5>available today.

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<v Speaker 2>That is a great point.

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<v Speaker 5>The problem with performative work is it takes away time

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<v Speaker 5>and energy from you actually being productive. It's also contagious,

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<v Speaker 5>especially if the boss reinforces this behavior. The best thing

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<v Speaker 5>you can do to avoid performative work is just not

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<v Speaker 5>participate in it.

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<v Speaker 2>I think what confuses me about that video is it

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<v Speaker 2>feels that the person's framing performative work is something you

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<v Speaker 2>do to appease your bosses, not something you do to

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<v Speaker 2>overcompensate for the fact that you're not working.

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<v Speaker 4>Ooh.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's both because like if I thought that

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<v Speaker 2>the point, they're like, oh, I'm just back to back

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<v Speaker 2>in meetings. That's my poor time management because I knew

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't want to do meetings and days I was

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<v Speaker 2>having fun, so I would do a meeting day, put

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<v Speaker 2>them all on one day. Then I can bludge interesting

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<v Speaker 2>like this whole like talking out loudier emails, like if

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<v Speaker 2>you were really in the zone, there's no time to

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<v Speaker 2>be like and I'm just gonna click send and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be enter. Like it feels like a performance to

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<v Speaker 2>mask the fact that you're not actually doing, not a

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<v Speaker 2>performance for the benefit of your employees or of your

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<v Speaker 2>employer because they're not in the room most of the time. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I think people think that they hoodwinking even when it's

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<v Speaker 3>obvious and they're not. You know, you think that your

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<v Speaker 3>boss hasn't been in your position, Yeah, but for them

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<v Speaker 3>to become a boss have had to be like you. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I think it works in some instances, Like I think

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<v Speaker 3>if someone acts busy and exacerbated all the time as

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<v Speaker 3>a junior person, you're less likely to go to them

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<v Speaker 3>and bother them.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>When so it's like really great for middle management and

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<v Speaker 3>I wite believe are the biggest bludges in the world.

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<v Speaker 2>That's true best position to be in. Yeah, I agree,

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<v Speaker 2>actually because I'm thinking, like, what if you saw an

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<v Speaker 2>intern doing performative likes, I'm sure they are actually stress

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<v Speaker 2>it's a stressful place to be but or like, get

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<v Speaker 2>off it. Come on, this is a one day a

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<v Speaker 2>week kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Literally, flex and frooms.

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<v Speaker 2>Guess what I just found out? What Tea Pain is

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<v Speaker 2>giving Gwyneth Paltrow a run for her money into industry beef.

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<v Speaker 2>We love to create beef that does not exist and

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<v Speaker 2>over exaggeration. So I might say a lie, But what

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<v Speaker 2>is the truth if not presumptions? Listen to this though.

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<v Speaker 2>Tea Pain just released his own candle collaboration with the

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<v Speaker 2>brand Market formerly known as Chinatown Market. They changed it

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<v Speaker 2>a couple years ago for the reason because nobody who

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<v Speaker 2>built that company is Chinese. It's like that. It's very

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<v Speaker 2>confusing anyway. So the candle is called tea paint and

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<v Speaker 2>it's in the shape of a paint can. Very creative

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<v Speaker 2>in my tea paint.

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<v Speaker 3>I think very much like two thousand and eight Jean

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<v Speaker 3>Paul Glartier like bottle that was in a tin.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's just what happens when you get some big

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<v Speaker 2>thinkers in a room. What do you reckon? We do

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<v Speaker 2>a play on words, a pun and anyway, so it's

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<v Speaker 2>a sweat and tequila scented candle. Ooh, that is bad.

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<v Speaker 2>This is marketing. I don't want a regular candle from

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<v Speaker 2>Tea Pain. I don't want any candle from te pain really,

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<v Speaker 2>but I want this one really badly and I can

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<v Speaker 2>have it for a cheeky You want to guess how

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<v Speaker 2>much it costs? One hundred whoa is that right? Why

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<v Speaker 2>did you get so high? I don't know. It's ninety

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<v Speaker 2>six dollars. Okay, damn you ruined it. Yeah, but ninety

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<v Speaker 2>six dollars. And there's not much to say about it,

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<v Speaker 2>like the the can itself says it's hand poured bougie parfumi.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh it's so ugly. It looks like you find in

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<v Speaker 2>your cupboard. It's very literal, it's very paint can says

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<v Speaker 2>tea paint sweat and to heal a candle and what

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<v Speaker 2>could be any Sarah Font Not sure, but I like

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<v Speaker 2>the marketing. I'm always ready to give pats on the

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<v Speaker 2>back for genius marketing because, like I said, I could

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<v Speaker 2>imagine it'd be really difficult for someone like Tea Pain

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<v Speaker 2>to stay relevant, not because he hears who he is,

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<v Speaker 2>but when you are so famous and your likeness is

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<v Speaker 2>really indicative of a time in pop culture, Like he

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<v Speaker 2>was pop culture for a good five six years and

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<v Speaker 2>then I don't know if you heard, but he got

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<v Speaker 2>screwed over by his manager and was basically bankrupt, no money. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>His manager made him sign, made him commit to a

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<v Speaker 2>bunch of bung deals in real estate and stuff he

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<v Speaker 2>thought he had investments he really didn't, really terrible stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>And I spent the last few years building his name

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<v Speaker 2>back up. He does these live streams on Twitch where

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<v Speaker 2>he plays music up and coming artists and gives them

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<v Speaker 2>a platform and he co signs them. Did you do

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<v Speaker 2>that with Mason Dane? Yeah? So it's super cufical and

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<v Speaker 2>This is just another way he's innovating. I love that.

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<v Speaker 3>I love to see a rags to riches, Riches to rags.

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<v Speaker 2>It's riches riches to rags, cont life cycle, a loop.

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<v Speaker 2>Who also knows Candles? Who Drake? But nobody really knows

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<v Speaker 2>because they're not that good unfortunately, Sorry Drey, But I

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<v Speaker 2>do love Drake and I want them to be amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>Over Oaks should be a lifestyle brand. I'm willing to

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<v Speaker 2>buy in. Is it available yet? The candle, the tea

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<v Speaker 2>paint candle? Are the Drake candle? Yeah, it's been available

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<v Speaker 2>for years. I don't know if it's sold out, you'd hope,

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<v Speaker 2>So maybe an experthday gift.

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