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Speaker 1: I was about to go Barleys.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, look, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna lie. That

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Speaker 2: was hard, very that was hard, and we may have

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Speaker 2: really rambled and rolled.

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Speaker 1: M well, considering on banter we ramble for three of

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Speaker 1: the five minutes every week, but there was a lot

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Speaker 1: of rambling. Rambling, yeah, yeah, and sometimes a bit.

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Speaker 2: Of Diversionsion to have not, you know, gone to the

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Speaker 2: emergency tape because we stop speaking for it so long.

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Speaker 3: I think it was all right.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to ramble with anyone else there. It is.

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Speaker 2: An envelope contains the music topic to discuss.

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Speaker 4: This five minutes on the clock to feel and this

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Speaker 4: no time to prep This is banter with Clezy and Lisa.

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Speaker 1: Are you ready? Lis?

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Speaker 2: Are we ready? What's in the envelope?

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Speaker 4: To pretend we're Warren Birding and Fade Donaway at the

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Speaker 4: oscars messing it up? It is yeah, yeah, you've seen already.

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Speaker 1: It's simply Rare, simply Red. Ah, there we go, time

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Speaker 1: starts now. Mmm. Mick Harcknell Manchester.

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Speaker 2: Is the lead singer of Simply Red. He is a

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Speaker 2: red head and his money is too tight.

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Speaker 4: Demention certainly is Mick Harcknall's been He's a real survivor,

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Speaker 4: isn't he. He just celebrated a big birthday and he's

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Speaker 4: he has been around for a long time, and I

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Speaker 4: think people underestimated how incredible his songwriting skills were, especially

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Speaker 4: in the early days. But that picture book album was

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Speaker 4: a huge hit.

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Speaker 3: It was a huge hit.

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Speaker 2: They made quite the splash, yeah, into the world of

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Speaker 2: you know music simply Read when they came on the scene.

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Speaker 3: What else was on that album money Holding Back the

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Speaker 3: Years was years?

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, that album did capture people's imagination, didn't it. And

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Speaker 4: they became a staple of because radio stations all around

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Speaker 4: the world started playing Simply Read because it was music

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Speaker 4: that was, you know, a catchy pops on and the

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Speaker 4: rest of it, but also not too full on, too

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Speaker 4: put people off.

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Speaker 2: I think he was probably instrumental in the turn for

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Speaker 2: Redheaded people everywhere, no doubt.

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Speaker 3: He put red Head on the map.

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Speaker 1: Where do you think you got the band name from?

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Speaker 3: Simply Read?

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Speaker 1: Simply Read? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: So that album made a real impact. In those two singles,

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Speaker 4: money to Type to Mention and Holding Back the Years

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Speaker 4: were the ones that put them into the charts. And

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Speaker 4: if you get that debut album into the charts. That

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Speaker 4: gets momentum for that second album and also with record

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Speaker 4: companies because the record company loved this new band and

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Speaker 4: this new white boy soul voice.

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Speaker 2: That it was a white boy soul voice, which was

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Speaker 2: popular at the time. But he and he did it

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Speaker 2: particularly well. As you said from Manchester, I'm not sure

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Speaker 2: exactly when and how simply read disbanded, but Mick went

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Speaker 2: on and continued in various forms, and he's done some

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Speaker 2: amazing covers of songs in recent years. And he did

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Speaker 2: a version of I'm not too sure if it's called

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Speaker 2: You make Me Feel brand New?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's do you know the song? Is it

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Speaker 3: called you make Me Feel Brain?

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Speaker 1: You made Me Feel brand New?

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Speaker 2: That's it?

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Speaker 3: Thank you clear.

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Speaker 2: He does the most beautiful version of.

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Speaker 3: That that I've ever heard.

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Speaker 1: This is a hell of a voice, hell of a voice.

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Speaker 4: And we talk about that white we talk about that

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Speaker 4: white boy soul because that's what they call it in

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Speaker 4: the UK pop press in the mid to early to

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Speaker 4: mid eighties. So we talked about you know, Tony Hadley

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Speaker 4: who had on the radio recently. You had Paul Young

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Speaker 4: who was one of those guys as well, who used

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Speaker 4: to be in the Q Tips and then a solo star,

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Speaker 4: and Mick was continuing that line of British soul singers

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Speaker 4: just happen to be white.

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Speaker 2: I may be imagining it, but I have a feeling

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Speaker 2: he was one of Princess Diana's favorites.

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Speaker 1: Which is a bit of a fan.

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Speaker 2: I feel like she was a fan. I feel like

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Speaker 2: he was one of the ones that she always requested

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Speaker 2: play at the the what do they call those things?

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Speaker 3: The variety up in the box. The Royals picture her

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Speaker 3: dancing to Money's too trd to.

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Speaker 4: Mention it was for her, but yeah, there are the

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Speaker 4: songs as well.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think she was.

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Speaker 3: I think she was. That was not one of Lady

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Speaker 3: Di's problems.

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Speaker 4: No, even if the Queen Honey cut the purse strings,

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Speaker 4: no relationship. I think they knew where the next meal

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Speaker 4: was coming from. Mick, as he said, has continued on.

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Speaker 4: But he's one of those guys. He'd been like over Davies,

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Speaker 4: you can sort of put any good musos around you

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Speaker 4: and still call yourself ice house. So he's called himself.

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Speaker 4: You know, he's had that simply red thing going on,

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Speaker 4: as opposed to a band with strong personalities and guys

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Speaker 4: who were there, and also being the principal songwriter that

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Speaker 4: really helps as well.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, you're listening to him as soon as

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Speaker 2: you start, so as soon as he kicks off, it's

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Speaker 2: one of those very distinct voices.

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Speaker 1: Yep.

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Speaker 4: And he's like your Tony Hadley's and your Jim Kurz

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Speaker 4: and you your Elvis Costello's who you listen to them

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Speaker 4: as an older man, and it happens with female things

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Speaker 4: as well, and you go, the voice is still damn good.

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Speaker 1: They look after the pipes.

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Speaker 3: I d say he was kind of underrated, yeah, i'd.

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Speaker 4: Imagine, so, yeah, yeah, I don't know if the music

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Speaker 4: industry took has taken mick.

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Speaker 2: I don't think the music industry took me as seriously

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Speaker 2: as he should have been.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's won a lot of British music awards.

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Speaker 2: Exactly that you just said, exactly, really trying. There's not

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Speaker 2: a lot to know about simply around. My definition of

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Speaker 2: this is the thing. They're not someone who you've read

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Speaker 2: a lot about over the years, you've heard a lot

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Speaker 2: about over the years, and that's why we're saying they're

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Speaker 2: probably a little underrated.

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Speaker 1: I want to hear Mick Hacknoll's story.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes I do because.

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Speaker 4: McK hacknell I know someone. We know people in the

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Speaker 4: music industry, right, And there was a oh can we

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Speaker 4: get suit for this? So simply ready be to per

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Speaker 4: A few times this played the Old Entertainment Center, and

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Speaker 4: apparently there was a story going around that Mick was

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Speaker 4: looking for a date one night and asked the record

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Speaker 4: wrap to see if you can find him a date.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I'm not about to get suit to this. We'll

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Speaker 1: change his name.

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Speaker 4: John was looking for a date after the gig and

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Speaker 4: ask the record person follow someone. Yeah, someone who we

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Speaker 4: know very well was asked to perhaps line him up

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Speaker 4: for a date. I don't know how successful that Nick was.

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Speaker 1: Fancy Time Is Over Years

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Speaker 2: Ninety six, AFM Crazy and Lisa