1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,920 Speaker 1: Well, yesterday on the show, we spoke to Careflight's chief 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:06,960 Speaker 1: aircrew officer Kurt Pride about a much loved local family 3 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:10,880 Speaker 1: involved in a serious car crash on Australia Day Now. 4 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: Charles known as Chuck and Mary Lou McGregor Shaw were 5 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 1: critically injured in that head on collision, with a couple 6 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:20,640 Speaker 1: transferred to the Perth Hospital for specialist treatment. Now, their 7 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 1: longtime friend and colleague Kurt joined us on the show 8 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 1: and said it is going to be a long road 9 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 1: to recovery. And that go fund me page, well, it 10 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 1: was set up by Joe Brosnan and Joe joins me 11 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:34,520 Speaker 1: on the line right now. 12 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 2: Good morning, Joe, Good morning Katie. Joe. 13 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 1: How are you feeling looking at this go fund me 14 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:46,839 Speaker 1: page this morning and the volume of support that Territorians 15 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:50,239 Speaker 1: have really just jumped around this family or thrown their 16 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 1: arms around this family. 17 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 2: I know it's been an absolute credit to the territory. 18 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 2: It's just wildly unimaginable. The family is just blown away 19 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 2: by it. But also in some ways I'm not surprised 20 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 2: because while I don't live there now, I lived in 21 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:14,399 Speaker 2: the territory for thirty years and I know how amazing 22 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 2: that community is. But it's also you know, people from 23 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 2: all over Australia have reached out people that don't know them. 24 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 2: But I think it's also that feeling you get when 25 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 2: you know, even the people who don't know them, that's 26 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 2: that realization that no one knows what can happen next, 27 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 2: that has really helped them sort of imagine what it 28 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 2: might be like for these people right now. 29 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. And you know, you look at their family photos, 30 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:45,119 Speaker 1: you look at this beautiful little family with their three 31 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 1: young boys, and you spot on you think, imagine if 32 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 1: my family was in that situation. 33 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think we all go through life just 34 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 2: you know, wanting to believe that bad things don't happen 35 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 2: to people, but they do. And the best that we 36 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 2: can do now is to show them that, you know, 37 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 2: all of the all of the kindness that they've showered 38 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 2: people with and all of the support they've given to 39 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 2: the community in the past is coming back to them 40 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 2: in space. 41 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:22,119 Speaker 1: Yes. Yes, you're so spot on there and it's at 42 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty nine thousand, seven hundred and four dollars. 43 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 2: Joe. 44 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:31,800 Speaker 1: When you set up that go fundb Paige, what was 45 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 1: your aim? What was your target. 46 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 2: Well, Mary Lou's sister and Laura and I talked about 47 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 2: it the day before we set it up and said, 48 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:42,959 Speaker 2: what do you reckon? 49 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:44,800 Speaker 3: How much? 50 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 2: How much do they need and how much you reckon 51 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 2: people would really be able to give. So we calculated 52 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 2: it at around you know, maybe five hundred dollars a 53 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:58,080 Speaker 2: week for a few months. We could potentially ask people 54 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 2: to go eight thirty thousand dollars and we were we 55 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:05,359 Speaker 2: ummed an art about that because we thought that was 56 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:09,079 Speaker 2: a stretch. So you can imagine how his family after 57 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 2: the first couple of hours were like. 58 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 1: What unbelievable have you? 59 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 3: Like? 60 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 1: You know, I know that the family's in a really 61 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 1: tough way at this point. I know that both Chuck 62 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 1: and Mary Lou, you know, literally in the fight of 63 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:26,800 Speaker 1: their lives. But have you spoken to the boys and 64 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 1: how are they feeling upon learning about the support from 65 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 1: from the community. 66 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the boys. I've spoken to the boys 67 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 2: a few times over the last week or so. They 68 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 2: Willard called me blood our godson. He called me on 69 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 2: FaceTime the other day and wanted to show me around 70 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 2: the house that they're living in at the moment down 71 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 2: in Perth, and it showed me the terrible haircuts their cousins, 72 00:03:56,680 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 2: their cousin has given them, and he was talking about talking. 73 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 2: You know, they're just at the moment, they're just kind 74 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 2: of going through this stage where it's still a bit 75 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 2: of a novelty being somewhere different. So, you know, George 76 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 2: grabbed the phone off him and he was telling me 77 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:19,599 Speaker 2: about how he went picking blackberries at his uncle's farm 78 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 2: and something he'd never done before, being a true Territorian. 79 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:28,280 Speaker 2: And Willard. Willard was telling me that he was trying 80 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 2: to get the doctor to sign off to give him 81 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:34,719 Speaker 2: permission to learn how to serve. He's eleven, he's the 82 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 2: one that had the torn bout. And they were also 83 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 2: talking about, you know, the joys of curbside, which they 84 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:46,839 Speaker 2: just discovered curbs a collections. They were cruising around the 85 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 2: streets trying to find bits and pieters to build a 86 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 2: motorized go cart. So they're kind of the boys that 87 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 2: they've always been. But on the other hand, you know 88 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 2: that underneath that. 89 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 3: Be just terrifying for those kids. 90 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, spot on. You know, it would be utterly 91 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 1: terrifying for them. And I know they've got so much 92 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:14,480 Speaker 1: support around them. I know, they've got so much love 93 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 1: around them from what you know, what we've been told 94 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:22,279 Speaker 1: yesterday by Kurt as well, Kurt Pride, you know, talk 95 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 1: us through in the last twenty four hours or so. 96 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:28,720 Speaker 1: How are Chuck and Mary Lou going. 97 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 2: Well? Kerb was, I think he's back and go. And 98 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 2: now that he was down there yesterday and he reported 99 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:38,599 Speaker 2: that he was in good spirits. 100 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 3: But just I think they're just so. 101 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 2: Blown away by the amount of money that's been raised. 102 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 2: I think it's just knows created a sense of shock 103 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:51,040 Speaker 2: all over again. It's like, what, you know, how how 104 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 2: did this happen? And they that's the beauty of that family. 105 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:56,720 Speaker 2: You know, they never they never do things with. 106 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:58,160 Speaker 3: The expectation of reward. 107 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:02,719 Speaker 2: They do things because they're good people and things, you know, 108 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 2: the sorts of activities they get involved in are the 109 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 2: right things to do. 110 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:06,599 Speaker 3: They don't. 111 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 2: They didn't understand how embedded they were in their communities 112 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:14,359 Speaker 2: and how much people had this bottled up sense of 113 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 2: helplessness because a lot of the friends and family have 114 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 2: known since, you know, short in their days after that, 115 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 2: you know, the accident had occurred, but it was so 116 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 2: touch and go in the beginning that certainly in the 117 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:32,600 Speaker 2: first you know, thirty six to thirty six hours that 118 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 2: it was it was and then it was just go, go, 119 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 2: go get them to Perth. Sought out that the block 120 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:44,279 Speaker 2: that you know, their home blocking Darwen Rural area just 121 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 2: off off they went for specialist care, so no one 122 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 2: had time to to do anything, and then we wanted 123 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 2: childs to be a part of the decision making where 124 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 2: it goes from me. So there's been like four weeks 125 00:06:57,240 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 2: of bottled up needs to help and that's just been 126 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:05,599 Speaker 2: This is just giving people that that opportunity to feel 127 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:07,279 Speaker 2: like they're actually doing something. 128 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 1: It's you know, it's really beautiful to see and I 129 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 1: know that's one of the things that I absolutely love 130 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 1: about the Northern Territory community is that when the chips 131 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 1: are down, that is when you see that real Northern 132 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 1: Territory spirit shine through, and that is when you see 133 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 1: the wonderful people in this place that want to support 134 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 1: each other. 135 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 3: One. 136 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 2: My family, my daughter and grandkids still live up there 137 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 2: and they probably won't ever leave, so I still get 138 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 2: to come up fairly regularly and actually stayed with Mary 139 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 2: Lou and Charles the weekend before the accident, and you 140 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:48,239 Speaker 2: just feel that warmth of the people there every time. 141 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:49,239 Speaker 3: You go go and visit. 142 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 2: But also, you know, just the incredible support to look 143 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 2: after the practicality during this time. They they've got a 144 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 2: three fit block that they're developing in the rural area, 145 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 2: and they've got dogs, bees, veggies, turkey, choks, gardens, chuck grows, heliconias, and. 146 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 3: Spider. 147 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 2: Lily Lou's cousin lived around the corner, and so she 148 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 2: got together and created a bit of a group chat 149 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 2: with the neighbors in the roads around where they live 150 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 2: and nearby friends, and they came up with a roster 151 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 2: so that everybody could do three days at a time. 152 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 2: And so they have managed all of those things during 153 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:39,079 Speaker 2: this whole time, just putting their hands up, I'll do this, 154 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:40,679 Speaker 2: I'll do that, until. 155 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 3: They could get a house fit of there just three 156 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 3: days ago. 157 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 1: What a crew, What a phenomenal group of people around 158 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 1: them that is so beautiful to hear. And you know, 159 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 1: I bet, like, yeah, I cannot imagine how grateful Chuck 160 00:08:56,880 --> 00:09:00,200 Speaker 1: and Mary Lou will be when, you know, when when 161 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 1: they do recover. And you know, I know that people 162 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 1: don't do that stuff for any kind of thanks or 163 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:07,959 Speaker 1: recognition but it just would set your mind at ease 164 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:11,680 Speaker 1: knowing that everything's being looked after and that people have 165 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:15,319 Speaker 1: just gathered around them and shown them that love and support. 166 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, And you know if people think, well, there's 167 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 2: no a lot I can give, I'll tell you every 168 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 2: single donation is really meaningful and it is really helpful because, 169 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 2: as Kurt said yesterday, this is not a short term thing. 170 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 2: Mary lou is showing small fines of improvement all the time, 171 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 2: but she's not cognizant, so she's not conscious. And Chuck 172 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 2: has about twelve months to bullet specialist rehabilitation in front 173 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 2: of him. So you know, we were in one sense 174 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 2: it's day by day and then another sense it's long 175 00:09:56,559 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 2: long term yep. 176 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 1: And they're going to need support for the down the track. 177 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 1: It's not something that you know that they're only going 178 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 1: to need over the next couple of months, like you've 179 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:08,079 Speaker 1: pointed out. It is going to be that long term support. 180 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 1: And I'm assuming that that is exactly what this you know, 181 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 1: what this fundraising is going towards to being able to 182 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 1: help them to actually concentrate on recovering and the kids 183 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:20,840 Speaker 1: to be able to you know, to live their lives. 184 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:25,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, the boys, you know, I know, I know 185 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 2: that Mary Lou will be fighting really really hard to 186 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:33,679 Speaker 2: get back for her boys. And those boys mean absolutely 187 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 2: everything to that couple. So if the one thing that 188 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:41,679 Speaker 2: they don't have to worry about is the fact that 189 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 2: they can't provide an income at the moment to help 190 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:49,320 Speaker 2: care for them, then that's one massive thing that you know, 191 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:51,839 Speaker 2: we can just take out of their little pots of 192 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 2: things to worry about. 193 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 1: Your spot on, Joe, what a beautiful friend you are, 194 00:10:57,080 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 1: and you know what a beautiful community we have that 195 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 1: everybody's gathered around these you know, they just seem like 196 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 1: the most lovely territory family. And I think that that 197 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 1: is why everybody's just gone, do you know what if 198 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 1: there's a way that I can help, I will. 199 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 3: Yeah. 200 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 2: And they're relatable, you know, they're the people next door, 201 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 2: the people at the footy lose, the you know, the 202 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 2: three boys all play for the swamp Dogs of the 203 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:29,959 Speaker 2: Union team. They played for the Literary Ord Bears Lose. 204 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 2: The under fifteen team manager for the Swamp Dogs. Child's 205 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:38,440 Speaker 2: no medic. They're always there on the sidelines. They're always 206 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 2: helping out the other kids. The boys go to a 207 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:44,560 Speaker 2: good Shepherd school in Howard Springs. Loo's always trying to 208 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 2: lend a hand at the school. You know, they're just 209 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:49,440 Speaker 2: those people that they kind of go under the radar 210 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 2: until they don't. Yeah. 211 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:54,440 Speaker 1: Oh, Joe, thank you so much for coming on this 212 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:56,200 Speaker 1: morning and having a chat to us, and just a 213 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 1: reminder to everybody out there listening. If you do want 214 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:01,839 Speaker 1: to support this beautiful family, can go to the go 215 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 1: to go to go fund me and you can you 216 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:09,080 Speaker 1: can literally search help support the McGregor shaw Boys. Joe Brosnan, 217 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 1: thank you so much for your time this morning. 218 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:13,839 Speaker 2: You're more welcome and thank you Katie for. 219 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 3: Your support anytime. 220 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 1: Thanks Joe,