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Speaker 1: Jonesy and Amanda in the Morning.

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Speaker 2: Sam john Wood has played some of Australia's most loved

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Speaker 2: characters in Rapid His Rules and of course Blue Heelers.

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Speaker 2: He's won three logis along the way, and now he

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Speaker 2: can pop his memoir on that same bookshelf. John Wood.

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Speaker 1: Hello, Hi there, how are you john?

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Speaker 3: I'm surprised this is your first memoir. I thought you

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Speaker 3: would have written a few before this.

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Speaker 1: No, I had to wait until I lived a bit

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Speaker 1: of a life. I love how you No, I've never

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Speaker 1: had any real interest in writing one, to be honest.

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Speaker 1: So anyway, here we are.

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Speaker 3: It's a glowing review.

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Speaker 2: Well, I love how you've called it, how I clawed

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Speaker 2: my way to the middle. I mean, you've never been

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Speaker 2: someone to blow your own trumpet. How did you find

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Speaker 2: writing a book? Because it's hard to just to think

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Speaker 2: any we've both done it, and to find you find

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Speaker 2: yourself thinking who gives a rats about me? But you've

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Speaker 2: got so much to tell?

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Speaker 1: Well? I felt the same way. Who gives a rat?

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Speaker 1: Of getting bored? As I was writing, you know, I

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Speaker 1: found that I thought, Oh God, who wants to read this?

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Speaker 1: It's so dull?

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Speaker 3: But it's not dull.

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Speaker 2: It's apparently not Apparently, it's absolutely not dull and all

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Speaker 2: the stuff that we didn't know about you. What about

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Speaker 2: you when you before you got into TV working in

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Speaker 2: an abattoir and then being a runner running money all

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Speaker 2: over the place?

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Speaker 3: Tell us about that.

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Speaker 1: I wasn't running money all over I've talked it up

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Speaker 1: a bit, some sort of drove money launder. But I

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Speaker 1: worked for the railways, and I worked at a place

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Speaker 1: called the Dining Car Depot in West Melbourne, just near

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Speaker 1: just near we West Melbourne Stadium Hall, and I had

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Speaker 1: to you know, the extent of my handling money was

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Speaker 1: that I was I was the pay clerk in this

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Speaker 1: little department of the railways where they service the service

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Speaker 1: to the interstate trains. And at the end of what

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Speaker 1: you know, when everybody had been paid, if there was

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Speaker 1: anything left over, it went into a bag along with

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Speaker 1: the gun, right, and I carried that calico bag back

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Speaker 1: across the railway yards and along Spencer Street station to

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Speaker 1: the Victorian Railways head office.

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Speaker 3: So, John, when you say money was left over, where

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Speaker 3: does that money go?

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Speaker 1: Is that just well, just well, it just went back

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Speaker 1: to the head office to go back in the safe,

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Speaker 1: because you know, it was only it would only go

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Speaker 1: back if the person that was due to be paid

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Speaker 1: was absent from work.

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Speaker 3: That right, I thought there could have been a bit

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Speaker 3: of corruption.

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Speaker 1: There, No, no, no.

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Speaker 2: And were you expected to use the gun if someone

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Speaker 2: came up in hand over the money?

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Speaker 1: I think so. I told how to use it, but

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Speaker 1: I think we were supposed to be able to shoot it.

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Speaker 4: That's so Australian. So no one, No one showed you

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Speaker 4: how to use the gun, just abocrat. Yeah, and when

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Speaker 4: you worked in it, when you worked in the abbat,

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Speaker 4: why did you did you kill any sheep or cows?

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Speaker 1: Questions? I worked in the cold storage.

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Speaker 3: Depart all right, punching the meat.

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Speaker 1: Well, freezing it, yeah, you know, moving it around. I

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Speaker 1: actually was a forklift driver for a while. You know,

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Speaker 1: I was really fit in those days, because you you know,

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Speaker 1: the cartons of meat were sixty pounds each and they

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Speaker 1: had to be sorted onto various palettes. And I got

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Speaker 1: to the port where I could throw them halfway across

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Speaker 1: the room and land them where they had to land.

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Speaker 1: And you know, you just get you get used to

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Speaker 1: handling that stuff, and that's.

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Speaker 2: How you tenderize meat.

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Speaker 3: That's how it's quite satisfying driving a forklift as well?

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Speaker 3: Would you agree.

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Speaker 1: Better than what it's.

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Speaker 3: Quite saying driving a forklift?

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Speaker 1: Oh yes, I think it's great. Good. Yes, That's what

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Speaker 1: I'm going to.

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Speaker 3: Do when all this fails. I'm going to be a

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Speaker 3: forklift around lunch time.

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Speaker 4: I'm going to go see those guys driving forklifts and

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Speaker 4: I think, yeah, it's good.

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Speaker 3: You know, you get you pick stuff up and you

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Speaker 3: put it down hot.

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Speaker 1: And I haven't done any acting since before Easter, so

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Speaker 1: maybe I should go back to it.

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Speaker 4: Maybe there's a role for a forklift driver that solves

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Speaker 4: crimes in his spare time running money around town very slowly,

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Speaker 4: I would imagine, because I don't go.

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Speaker 1: Quickly, but I don't go that fast.

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Speaker 3: Actually give us a lift.

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Speaker 4: You're not going to see that in bullet, are you

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Speaker 4: high speed forklift chase?

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Speaker 1: Well, John, it would be very funny.

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Speaker 3: This is a great book, John Wood's memoir. It's not good.

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Speaker 3: I couldn't give a rats.

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Speaker 4: It's called How I Clawed My Way to the Middle

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Speaker 4: and it's available in all good bookstores today.

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Speaker 2: Nice to talk to you, John, Thank you you too,

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Speaker 2: list thank you, my man.

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Speaker 1: Join the and Amanda, good morning. What at one point seven,

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Speaker 1: tell you him I